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PostSubject: Re: Things to Read Wed Jul 22, 2015 11:28 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Things to Read Sat Jul 25, 2015 9:52 am

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C. G. Jung – Essay on Wotan [w. Nietzsche]

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This is also an interesting read:

Nietzsche, The Overhuman, and Transhumanism
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PostSubject: Re: Things to Read Mon Jul 27, 2015 12:49 am

As an antecedent, it seems to me that transhumanism attests as a furtherance of atrophy and nominal coping, as opposed to counter or corrective, mechanism to organismal involution, diffusing from a radix during a kairus within which superabundant sensory data stratifies and neuterizes the stimulus to preserve and overcome it.
By this agency, every [artificial] upgrading of appearances of the organism is proportional to a downgrading of the capabilities/limitations of the organism.
In other words, an underman playing dressup with an overman costum.
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PostSubject: Re: Things to Read Mon Jul 27, 2015 10:01 am

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As an antecedent, it seems to me that transhumanism attests as a furtherance of atrophy and nominal coping, as opposed to counter or corrective, mechanism to organismal involution, diffusing from a radix during a kairus within which superabundant sensory data stratifies and neuterizes the stimulus to preserve and overcome it.
By this agency, every [artificial] upgrading of appearances of the organism is proportional to a downgrading of the capabilities/limitations of the organism.
In other words, an underman playing dressup with an overman costum.

Only if you separate the organism from the machine.

The dichotomy is false; the machine [artifice] and the organism coalesce, become one.
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PostSubject: Re: Things to Read Mon Jul 27, 2015 2:35 pm

Personify the machina!

That the organism does not, er, cannot, provide the precursor was my train of thought, and so sets the task toward a continuum of automation.

In retrospection of my previous post, there is no dyad or differentiation between coping and corrective/preservation/over measures: they're interchangeable.
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PostSubject: Re: Things to Read Tue Jul 28, 2015 12:41 pm

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On the roll lately. Have you a copy or source for Bergson's Creative Evolution?
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Bergson's Concept of Intuition

On the roll lately. Have you a copy or source for Bergson's Creative Evolution?

E-book download ( free ):  http://booksee.org/book/1289601

PDF/Internet Archive: https://archive.org/details/creativeevolutio00berguoft

A very underrated philosopher, in my opinion.
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PostSubject: Re: Things to Read Tue Jul 28, 2015 1:57 pm

Thanks. Measurable, standardized Time has always been a spell for me.
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Nice.

Im not sure if requests are allowed here, but, if one wanted to read psychology books, good books, what would one read? Not just the author, since I suspect you might say "Jung" - I downloaded a book pack of him and there must be 30-40 books atleast and I have no idea where to start with him.

What psychologists , and their books, dead or alive, is recommended for a wholesome study of human behaviour?


Also, what is the field literally called? I know there are different kinds to study - I mean the human one, insights into human behaviour.


Thanks in advance to anyone who helps out!
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PostSubject: Re: Things to Read Sat Aug 01, 2015 8:01 am

You have the world and society as specimens at your disposal for examing psychodymanics and an endless compendium of literary and comparative compositions which effectively foreshadow psychology.

I guess you're more after field terminology and concepts?
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PostSubject: Re: Things to Read Sat Aug 01, 2015 8:07 am

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C. G. Jung – Essay on Wotan [w. Nietzsche]


Nice.

Im not sure if requests are allowed here, but, if one wanted to read psychology books, good books, what would one read? Not just the author, since I suspect you might say "Jung" - I downloaded a book pack of him and there must be 30-40 books atleast and I have no idea where to start with him.

What psychologists , and their books, dead or alive, is recommended for a wholesome study of human behaviour?


Also, what is the field literally called? I know there are different kinds to study - I mean the human one, insights into human behavior.

Thanks in advance to anyone who helps out!

Anything from William James is great.

The Varieties of Religious Experience

The Principles of Psychology
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PostSubject: Re: Things to Read Sat Aug 01, 2015 7:52 pm

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Nice.

Im not sure if requests are allowed here, but, if one wanted to read psychology books, good books, what would one read? Not just the author, since I suspect you might say "Jung" - I downloaded a book pack of him and there must be 30-40 books atleast and I have no idea where to start with him.

What psychologists , and their books, dead or alive, is recommended for a wholesome study of human behaviour?


Also, what is the field literally called? I know there are different kinds to study - I mean the human one, insights into human behavior.

Thanks in advance to anyone who helps out!

Anything from William James is great.

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Thanks, I'll check it out!

I want to know more b/c I want to expand on the knowledge the MANifesto gives me, and I want to study "human behaviour" on my own. Im just not familiar enough with "the how" to do it on my own, using real world. Satyr does mention an impressive (huge) number of authors who have influenced his writings, but I dont know which are good psychologists and, more importantly, what books of them are useful. It was something like that that I was in want of.





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You have the world and society as specimens at your disposal for examing psychodymanics and an endless compendium of literary and comparative compositions which effectively foreshadow psychology.

I guess you're more after field terminology and concepts?


Your english is usually way to complicated for a non-native speaker like me, I usually just scroll past your posts (no offence).

If you remember the guy Magnus Andersson that used to post here ,or have read the first 300 pages of the MANifesto(that what I have read), you might know what Im looking for. Whatever Magnus Andersson had studied sound interesting - just to understand what he was talking about. It sounded advanced, atleast.

And for the MANifesto I would like to know where Satyr has gotten some/most of his 'training'/knowledge for understanding the mind of man. I suspect Nietzsche or Shoepenhaur might influence him more then others - but my mind cant make much sense of those two and I require something more clear/concise/concentrated to be able to learn.

Most of my attempts to google psychology books put a book called "thinking fast and slow" at the top of what one should read. I did that. And it was not what I wanted. I want to know of the human as an organism/mind, not just number games etc.

I hope I made my self understood. Thanks.


I feel I have derailed this thread enough that I must provide something.


I found the book "The mating mind" by Geoffrey Miller very enlightning (didnt read all of it very attentively) since it highlighted that evolution might not be what we commonly think it is. Its about evolution as a 'sexual selection' evolution - as opposed to a language evolution, or "survival of the fittest" evolution. It was good for someone like me who knows nothing about evolution.


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Stirner’s non-aristotelian formulations on the nature of self-motivation take on a fresh significance at a time when Harvard University has just announced an ‘anti-hate’ research center, to be headed by Pitirim A. Sorokin. The purpose of thisresearch is to increase the production of ‘love’ and to decrease the production of ‘hate’ in the world. The center will study the ‘great altruists of history . . . to find out how these altruists succeeded in becoming altruistic.’ And it will study ‘the most efficient techniques of transmutation of selfishness into unselfishness.’ The archaic assumptions present in such a program represent an emphasis, as Stirner’s viewpoint suggests, which might prove fatal to accomplishing the improvements in human relations which are the research center’s avowed purpose.

To presume an elementalistic ‘love-hate’ dichotomy is to perpetuate the misevaluations usually lumped together under each term in it. Stirner’s insights offer an effective antidote to such primitive misevaluations.
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This looks like it will be interesting.
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PostSubject: Re: Things to Read Thu Aug 06, 2015 5:59 pm

Clinical Voice Disorders: An Interdisciplinary Approach, Aronson (1980)
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I just might buy this book.

Always been a fan of the film.


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PostSubject: Re: Things to Read Mon Aug 10, 2015 1:35 am

New evidence suggests Stone Age hunters from Europe discovered America

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PostSubject: Re: Things to Read Mon Aug 10, 2015 11:25 am

There are a lot of affirming articles and researches out there on the Clovis and Solutrean people (and some documentaries); as well the description by the Spanish when they remarked that the elite of the Aztec and Maya looked as if they were Spanish themselves, reason to believe that they have White ancestors absorbed in their gene-pool who distinguished themselves in intellect to become the rulers. The Chachapoya (Cloud people) are also interesting to look at; their left behind castles are European-like as well the mummies. Or what about the theory of the Carthargians fleeing their destroyed city, a sea-faring people, to end up in South America.
Even the Australoids have more claim to be ''natives'' of South America since they, with their canoos, ended up multiple times (back and forward) in South American locations prior the paleo-mongoloid conquests.

It is laugable to suggest those paleo-mongoloids had the intellectual capacity to built those pyramids and understand astronomy.
Need to make a topic 'Ancient Origins / Archeology' here.

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PostSubject: Re: Things to Read Tue Oct 13, 2015 8:30 am

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A nice overview of right/left psychology, based on survival strategies, but it is missing a lot of filling.
I think my Feminzation of Mankind and my MANifesto offers a more thorough analysis...but I'm biased.

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Culturo-political angle as the distinctive disparity between the progressive, multicultural and democratic led Western alliances and the neo-liberal, multiethnic and orthodoxic led Euroasian alliances.
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PostSubject: Re: Things to Read Tue Oct 20, 2015 3:51 pm

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Great text, it asks more than it answers, but at least there are few good responses there...I always look for "violent" masculinity in everything (fits the temperament of my "true-self") .

" Is it really possible that you can point to a metal album cover artwork, it has such a rapport the the soul of most men that they instantly understand what it is about, and yet it does not exist as a spiritual path?"
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PostSubject: Re: Things to Read Tue Oct 20, 2015 4:30 pm

Relating to previous post, this is extremely exciting to watch
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PostSubject: Re: Things to Read Tue Oct 20, 2015 5:55 pm

It is in the cultural dances topic too; due to Sufism more pagan traditions were preserved than if they would have been Sunnah from the start.
I had read they do the Zikr moving alike to certain dance so that they could immediately go into war (againt the Russians).
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PostSubject: Re: Things to Read Wed Oct 21, 2015 1:06 pm

Anyone got Azsacra Zarathustra PDF's? Even the books are difficult to find.

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PostSubject: Re: Things to Read Wed Oct 21, 2015 1:31 pm

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Anyone got Azsacra Zarathustra PDF's? Even the books are difficult to find.

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"Detachment from the world as an attachment to the ego… Who can realize the detachment in which you are as far away from yourself as you are from the world? To displace the center from nature to the individual and from the individual to God. This is the final end of grand detachment.

The Overman indefatigably practices so that his Pure Über/ “Over” could surpass the partial and small-biased “man”, the tower of the vision of universal Non-existence. And this way is always one: from the Overman (Übermensch) — through his destruction — to Over Without “man” (Überohnemensch); and then and further away — to Overnoumen (Übernoumen).

It is not enough for one to merely cross the bridge…it must be incinerated so that return is impossible, and that once Man is surpassed, it is a part of his linear progression, that it is transcended, purged, and finally annihilated. It is in this final annihilation, that the concept of Shunya is introduced, as Man is sublimated by a nihilistic principle of Nothing. However, as we shall see, it is not a bleak, pessimistic and fearful Nothing, but rather a powerful transforming force that is entirely constructive and beneficial. In essence, it overcomes death, by becoming death, in a constant cycle of creative destruction.

At this level of practice, the will is completely negated to the Absolute point of Zero, precisely because there is no longer any distinction between what is ‘I’ and what is ‘Not I’. Once the adept has reached this stage, by whatever method of spiritual instruction, he or she is effectively ‘‘yoked’ to the system of rta and will naturally follow the correct path of dharma without ever having to evoke the notion of ‘will’. Therefore, by applying the will to certain spiritual methods, the will is constantly overcome until it becomes Nothing. In some Hindu Traditions we see this taken even further, such as in the iconography of Goddesses such as Kali, who bears a severed head in Her hand representing the removal of the ‘ego’ which is the ultimate impediment to the discovery of the Absolute Will.

All of these factors, and the link to a type of higher consciousness wherein the nothinginess of the will is attained via an amalgamation or ‘yoking’ of the microcosm of man to the ‘macrocosm’ of the universe, are found in texts devoted to the God Shiva. For example, the Śāmbhavopāya, 1.7 mentions that the ‘fourth state of consciousness is experienced by piercing through the sates of waking consciousness, the dream state and the state of dreamless sleep, in blissful awareness of the true nature of reality.’[15] The fourth state of mind is furthermore defined within the Śiva Sūtras as being a state of mind which is not normally entered into. In the Śiva Sūtras, (Āṇavopāya, 3.9), it is even said that ‘One who has realized his spiritual nature is like a dancer, dancing to the rhythm of the universe.’[16] Similarly, Wulff also states that there is a connection between Abhinavagupta’s aesthetic theory and his practice of Kashmir Saivism; ‘in aesthetic experience, as in yogic trance and in final release, subject and object disappear, and one transcends all desires and limited, ego-bound perceptions. Abhinavagupta terms the highest state of vigalitavedyantara, “one in which the object of knowledge has dissolved.”’[17]

"The Emptiness is the illusion, if it is not the Emptiness to Supremacy." [Azsacra Zarathustra]


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PostSubject: Re: Things to Read Fri Oct 23, 2015 11:19 am

I still have no idea what Azsacra is about. But I am still reading his writings to see what is his purpose, does he not believe in eugenics/genetics? One of his fan pages posted something as retarded as this:
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"Any conservative 'will to power' is the shit."  <-- not really a good argument
— Jack Larsen, Azsacra vs. The Political Shit

Who the fuck is Jack Larsen and does Azsacra approve what he has said, I have no idea.

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PostSubject: Re: Things to Read Fri Oct 23, 2015 2:16 pm

Just don't buy his books, as I have read it is a scam (1000 blanc pages for 50 euro or so) - he may have some interesting things in his vagueness, but don't bother for more.
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PostSubject: Re: Things to Read Fri Oct 23, 2015 2:49 pm

Thanks, I just wanted to know if he is as great as he himself thinks, apparently not.
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