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PostSubject: Re: Fashion & Feminization Fri Dec 09, 2016 2:54 pm


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PostSubject: Re: Fashion & Feminization Sun Feb 05, 2017 12:28 pm

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Meritocracy in the work place is double-edged.

On the one hand, women being asked to wear short skirts and sheer blouses in the name of 'professionalism' will speak out (rightfully) against this sexualized atmosphere in the workplace and stand their ground to be recognized for their work-merits and capability.

But this has also become the argument of radical feminists against 'male objectification' for wearing short skirts and transparent blouses and such, to see them purely for their work-merit.

Now, the problem multiplies with barring wearing of head-scarves and burqas as not only sexist but also racist… and to be recognized on work-merit…

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Meritocracy and professionalism are thorny issues.

An example of how far it could go...
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PostSubject: Re: Fashion & Feminization Sun Feb 05, 2017 1:13 pm

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On the one hand, women being asked to wear short skirts and sheer blouses in the name of 'professionalism' will speak out (rightfully) against this sexualized atmosphere in the workplace and stand their ground to be recognized for their work-merits and capability.

Woman should not be overly flirtatious with her working colleagues and neither should they reciprocate. Couples should keep it formal in front of other colleagues as well.
I think so because this behaviour is part of the feminisation of the workplace and while it can be fun in the moment, overall it's destructive.
Destructive for a society based on a traditional family structure.
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PostSubject: Re: Fashion & Feminization Sun Feb 05, 2017 1:39 pm

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On the one hand, women being asked to wear short skirts and sheer blouses in the name of 'professionalism' will speak out (rightfully) against this sexualized atmosphere in the workplace and stand their ground to be recognized for their work-merits and capability.

Woman should not be overly flirtatious with her working colleagues and neither should they reciprocate. Couples should keep it formal in front of other colleagues as well.
I think so because this behaviour is part of the feminisation of the workplace and while it can be fun in the moment, overall it's destructive.
Destructive for a society based on a traditional family structure.

I agree, and Mannequin has also talked about "couple-workouts" in public and gyms…
Here its not behavior, but whats acceptable as professional code and who defines that, and where to draw the line around meritocracy, etc.

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PostSubject: Re: Fashion & Feminization Sun Feb 05, 2017 2:03 pm

What feminisers would like best is sexily dressed women who scold men for their 'objectification' and 'sexual harassment' of said women.
The male equivalent of women being shamed for their sexuality itself.
It is saying and teaching - There is something wrong with your sexuality.

While what is actually good is self-control, what is bad is self-denial.
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PostSubject: Re: Fashion & Feminization Sun Feb 05, 2017 3:03 pm

Its other factors too.

1. The equality myth. Nicola Thorp case.
Social norms are at fault here expecting heights be on par and "so much equality" that there be no natural differences, and a staged uni-formity.
As a male complementary question, asked if males would feel feminized if the demand was to remain clean-shaven [piers morgan in a debate with her, said he would gladly play that part if the code required], again, such things equalize real health injuries [heels for 9 hours] with appearance-choice [beard, etc.]
When the question is totally opened up, then "comfort" can become a very relativistic, subjective choice, and then the work-space becomes something else.

2. Social norms at large.
Feminizers and feminists mutually encouraging a hedonistic culture. I mean what 'client' in an accounts firm really cares if the receptionist who leads him/her to the meeting room is looking the part to "boost their confidence to do business with the firm"…?
They dont care, but they are made to care. Socially enforced to care.
In an older age, everything looking spotless would actually make one paranoid, make bells ring, create distrust…
Its the opposite now.
I understand how shabby 'attitudes' expressed through attire can make someone take work for granted and affect performance, but, who's spreading memes that frontal and front-office appearance is a factor for client confidence? At the end of the day, isn't it statistical data of a firm that's going to swing their decision to yes or no?
But its become about "vibes" - not the intuitive kind, but to thwart the intuitive kind with "feel good vibes"...

Hedonizers.

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PostSubject: Re: Fashion & Feminization Sun Feb 05, 2017 3:18 pm

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Hedonizers.

Hedonizers and the manuf(r)acturing of the Trust industry.

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