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PostSubject: Horseback Riding Fri Jan 18, 2013 4:30 pm

I've always liked horseback riding, not because of sexual overtones as some might suggest, but because I consider it an art of sorts (just think of Dressage for example). The mastery of controlling a powerful beast, combined with the art of riding and all it entails: balance, strength, and grace/elegance...it's attractive, and it's a discipline in itself to be able to do this.

I used to ride a lot, but not as much any more. I also think horses are extremely beautiful animals.
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PostSubject: Re: Horseback Riding Fri Jan 18, 2013 9:21 pm

An Artemis archetype? Aloof, Asocial, Affinity with animals...

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I don't like domesticating animals.

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PostSubject: Re: Horseback Riding Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:13 pm

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An Artemis archetype? Aloof, Asocial, Affinity with animals...




I don't like domesticating animals.

Nice photo. I like Artemis too.
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PostSubject: Re: Horseback Riding Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:34 pm

Horses are alright. I entirely miss the mystique. Usually girls growing up are obsessed with horses but not me. They're muscular, tough, and not that friendly if you ask me.

Cats take the cake for beauty (and sexuality). Try taming a wild cat and riding it...that would be spectacular.
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PostSubject: Re: Horseback Riding Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:23 am

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PostSubject: Re: Horseback Riding Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:24 am

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PostSubject: Re: Horseback Riding Sat Jan 26, 2013 6:29 am

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Cats take the cake for beauty (and sexuality). Try taming a wild cat and riding it...that would be spectacular.

Among the Germanics, this fits [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], the fertility goddess who rides a chariot pulled by two giant cats.
This association with cats and sexuality goes farther. It has to do with harvest and ale:

"For thousands of years, beer making was the exclusive domain of women, until the age of Industrial Revolution (in the mid-19th century). Before this, women maintained power and status in male dominated societies through their skills as brewsters. In all ancient cultures, beer was believed to be a gift from a goddess - never a male god. Still surviving in the world's most remote places - Mongolia to the Amazon, from Africa to isolated Scandinavian villages - places where the long shadow of Budweiser does not fall.only women brew.
Zeroing in on the occupations of condemned women, I was stunned to discover that some 60 percent of those who had occupations referred to themselves as brewster, alewife, or midwife. Remember that our notion of "witch" came along simultaneously with 1. The rise and spread of the early Church; 2. The birth of commercial male-run breweries; and 3. The creation of guilds for physicians/surgeons.

In both Old Europe and in the New World, a woman with a surplus of beer found ready cash by selling ale to any thirsty passersby. To promote this source of income, women would place a broom in the road in front of their house. As villages turned into cities, women with a reputation for good beer permanently moved their brooms from the road to hang perpendicular over the door to their cottage. In time, houses became so crowded together, some enterprising brewster hung her broom - cantilevered - over the door - thus was born the first of all trade signs. The association of brooms with brewery is still seen from Africa to Peru, a lingering sign that beer making was a trade unique to women. Why the broom? By the 10th century, the ubiquitous broom had become the quintessential symbol of a woman's household.
Consider next the witch's hat, that tall-steepled black headgear every child associates with "witch". Our witch/midwife has her best days selling ales at fairs and festivals. These events - not entirely unlike our own county fairs and carnivals - drew the biggest, longest, free-spending thirsty audiences to the brewsters. Extending even to the weekly rural market days, people crowded into these events from all over the surrounding area. Amidst throngs of customers and vendors - alewives found the best way to sell was to be seen. Looking down an endless line of booths, a brewster was easy to find towering over everyone with her two to three foot high "witch" hat. By the 16th century the brewster's hat, along with her broomstick, became the hallmarks of her trade.

Every witch has a cat. It's an expected prerequisite to witch fashion. Why the cat? Anyone who has had stores of grain in the house will know. Rats! Rural women whose livelihood depended on the reputation of their ale protected their costly ingredients. Unlike today, cats were expected to feed themselves, guarding grain stores in the process. To the early Church, cats became the fabled "familiars": agents of the Devil, nourished on its owner's blood through a witch's teat - a hidden nipple bestowed by the Devil himself. Some historians (myself included) ascribe many European outbreaks of plague and other pandemics to the Church having killed off tens of thousands of cats. Seeing Puss as a diabolical agent of Satan, it's a miracle any of them survived.

"Midwives and nurses mediated the mysteries of birth, procreation, illness and death. They touched the untouchable, handled excrement and vomit as well as milk, swaddled the dead as well as the newborn. They brewed medicines from plants and roots, and presided over neighborhood gatherings of women."
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PostSubject: Re: Horseback Riding Tue Nov 18, 2014 8:47 pm

I absolutely luv horses! The most majestic animals...
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PostSubject: Re: Horseback Riding Wed Nov 19, 2014 9:59 am

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PostSubject: Re: Horseback Riding Wed Nov 19, 2014 10:07 am

hahaha! That's so mean and disrespectful...but still, kind of funny Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Horseback Riding Wed Nov 19, 2014 10:10 am

The preference for horses has to do with the masculine idealization of its traits....the large penis, its docile yet strong physique, how it can carry a (wo)man, and be moved with a subtle nudge...

Females and effete men love horses...just as males prefer dogs and women prefer cats.
It gives you an insight into their psychology.

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PostSubject: Re: Horseback Riding Wed Nov 19, 2014 10:14 am

Oh Satyr, that seems sort of uncouth, don't you think? lol
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PostSubject: Re: Horseback Riding Wed Nov 19, 2014 10:16 am

Oh Zara...how often you speak and say absolutely nothing.
You appear brilliant...but appearances are superficial.

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PostSubject: Re: Horseback Riding Wed Nov 19, 2014 10:17 am

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Females and effete men love horses...just as males prefer dogs and women prefer cats.
It gives you an insight into their psychology.

I don't know how it would follow that females prefer cats over dogs.  Also depends on what kind of dog, since different breeds have entirely different uses.  

Generally it seems to me women are more interested in pets of any kind.  

If I had to choose between the average cat and the average dog, I'd go with a cat.  But the best dogs are of course better than any cat, for companionship, usefulness, etc.
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PostSubject: Re: Horseback Riding Wed Nov 19, 2014 10:22 am

It follows from my experiences.
Most women prefer cats, and horses...and the more feminine they are the more they do so.

The stereotype of a spinster living in a house full of cats is not a stereotype for no reason at all. I work with a woman, who is getting up there in age, and has no children...and she's obsessed with cats.
Actually I work with three in the same situation.

Psychology determines your tastes.

Preferring chicken over fish is not accidental...you don't simply decide it one day. It is rooted in your organic, internal, hierarchies...organ weaknesses and strengths and how they relate.

Every detail about a person, what he likes and dislikes, what sexual activities he prefers, what fantasies he has, what dreams, say something about them...something he might not even know.

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PostSubject: Re: Horseback Riding Wed Nov 19, 2014 10:26 am

That's true about the cat ladies....Forgot about those. One of my college professors was one. She was also a "lesbian."
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PostSubject: Re: Horseback Riding Wed Nov 19, 2014 10:35 am

I see horses and dogs as more similar than horses and cats. That's why I don't see the connection there, specifically.

What do you suppose it is about cats that women love, as opposed to dogs?

Is it the aloofness and relative wildness, as opposed to the pathetic, honest supplication of dogs?

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PostSubject: Re: Horseback Riding Wed Nov 19, 2014 10:43 am

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What do you suppose it is about cats that women love, as opposed to dogs?
Aloof, self-centerdness.

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Is it the aloofness and relative wildness, as opposed to the pathetic, honest supplication of dogs?  

Yes, dogs have an unquestioning loyalty once you've won them over, or they've trusted you, or they associate what they are with what you are.

Females like to keep their options open, and remain cynical towards all masculine idealism.

It's part of their reproductive strategy.
A woman who loves horses is usually governed by a sexual desire, a status image - hypergamy.
A cat is more esoteric, indicating a closing-off into herself.

Notice that in either case the desire to have a pet, a domesticated, safe animal, to take care of and be noticed by, indicates a social alienation - a disconnection from humanity, as it has become.
One's own species is alien to those who prefer pets, and keep them in urban environments are toys, as symbols, as distractions, and emotional carpets.

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PostSubject: Re: Horseback Riding Wed Nov 19, 2014 11:51 am

At which point does the pet become the owner.

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Cold Weasel wrote:
What do you suppose it is about cats that women love, as opposed to dogs?
Aloof, self-centerdness.

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Is it the aloofness and relative wildness, as opposed to the pathetic, honest supplication of dogs?  

Yes, dogs have an unquestioning loyalty once you've won them over, or they've trusted you, or they associate what they are with what you are.

Females like to keep their options open, and remain cynical towards all masculine idealism.

It's part of their reproductive strategy.
A woman who loves horses is usually governed by a sexual desire, a status image - hypergamy.
A cat is more esoteric, indicating a closing-off into herself.

Notice that in either case the desire to have a pet, a domesticated, safe animal, to take care of and be noticed by, indicates a social alienation - a disconnection from humanity, as it has become.
One's own species is alien to those who prefer pets, and keep them in urban environments are toys, as symbols, as distractions, and emotional carpets.

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I wholeheartedly disagree with that. I am NOT governed by my sexual-desire. I have a family and kids, for crying out loud.
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PostSubject: Re: Horseback Riding Wed Nov 19, 2014 12:17 pm

I hate horses.
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PostSubject: Re: Horseback Riding Wed Nov 19, 2014 12:42 pm

There's also the woman that loves small dogs as a way to release her need to nurture without having children, dressing it up in outfits and showering it with a disturbing amount attention.
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PostSubject: Re: Horseback Riding Wed Nov 19, 2014 12:50 pm

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There's also the woman that loves small dogs as a way to release her need to nurture without having children, dressing it up in outfits and showering it with a disturbing amount attention.


Likewise, cats are fussy and love being pampered; owning one is a reverse projection, the desire to be.

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PostSubject: Re: Horseback Riding Wed Nov 19, 2014 12:57 pm

I have 3 cats Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Horseback Riding Wed Nov 19, 2014 1:22 pm

I'm allergic to cats... when I was a baby, we had a cat and it tried to smother/kill me in my crib, true story.
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PostSubject: Re: Horseback Riding Wed Nov 19, 2014 1:25 pm

It was just trying to cuddle with you. It'd eat you if you died though.
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PostSubject: Re: Horseback Riding Wed Nov 19, 2014 1:28 pm

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It was just trying to cuddle with you.

Are cats that oblivious to life?
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PostSubject: Re: Horseback Riding Wed Nov 19, 2014 2:14 pm

They like to sit close to your face when they can, where it's nice and warm. They never actually sit on your face though. Your parents probably just freaked out. I would, that's what parents do.
Cat was all like jeez... chill humans. I'll sit over there instead.
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PostSubject: Re: Horseback Riding Wed Nov 19, 2014 2:41 pm

It was a jealous male cat if that makes a difference.
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PostSubject: Re: Horseback Riding Wed Nov 19, 2014 3:23 pm

I'm not a man hater, perp.
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PostSubject: Re: Horseback Riding Wed Nov 19, 2014 3:51 pm

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I have 3 cats Wink

Was that supposed to surprise us?
You have that...cat personality.

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PostSubject: Re: Horseback Riding Wed Nov 19, 2014 3:51 pm

I will take that as a compliment.
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PostSubject: Re: Horseback Riding Wed Nov 19, 2014 3:56 pm

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I will take that as a compliment.

A cat mind would, dear....
Because pleasure is your only end.
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PostSubject: Re: Horseback Riding Wed Nov 19, 2014 3:57 pm

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just as males prefer dogs and women prefer cats.

I thought you liked bitches.

I have a pet munchkin, its precious. All i have to do is pet pet and feed and it nibbles, the cutest thing...


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Nothing but love nibbles, dear.
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PostSubject: Re: Horseback Riding Wed Nov 19, 2014 4:10 pm

I do like bitches...if they heel.

I would not put an animal in an urban environment...especially not a dog.
I believe in utility. I like my dog to serve a purpose.
That's why I would only consider getting one if I owned a farm.

Raising neurotic, fucked-up animals just to please myself, and comfort my loneliness, is not something I can consider doing.
Pets usually sooth our inner isolation...even if one is surrounded by people.
Actually being surrounded by people can accentuate this sense of loneliness.

And here we are...on-line.
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PostSubject: Re: Horseback Riding Wed Nov 19, 2014 6:34 pm

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Notice that in either case the desire to have a pet, a domesticated, safe animal, to take care of and be noticed by, indicates a social alienation - a disconnection from humanity, as it has become.

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Raising neurotic, fucked-up animals just to please myself, and comfort my loneliness, is not something I can consider doing.

I have always felt this way too. My sister keeps a big, fat, neurotic dog and it has always depressed me because I can see her unhealthy lifestyle and alienation from family reflected in him.

About three years ago a friend of mine here in Korea got ahold of some kind of guide to American culture, for Koreans. On the subject of pets, it tried to explain to the reader why so many American families own dogs and treat it as it it were a full-fledged family member. The explanation was something to the effect of: Americans have replaced their extended family members with animals. It fills the void left by absent grandparents. To get the feeling of a whole family, Americans adopt dogs and treat them like humans.

My friend thought this was just another reason to smugly scoff at Korean insensitivity misunderstandings of Westerners. But for me it was a refreshing whiff of truth. Sometimes only a stranger can tell you what you really are.
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PostSubject: Re: Horseback Riding Sat May 16, 2015 11:30 pm

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Cats take the cake for beauty (and sexuality). Try taming a wild cat and riding it...that would be spectacular.

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Among the Germanics, this fits [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], the fertility goddess who rides a chariot pulled by two giant cats.
This association with cats and sexuality goes farther. It has to do with harvest and ale:

"For thousands of years, beer making was the exclusive domain of women, until the age of Industrial Revolution (in the mid-19th century). Before this, women maintained power and status in male dominated societies through their skills as brewsters. In all ancient cultures, beer was believed to be a gift from a goddess - never a male god. Still surviving in the world's most remote places - Mongolia to the Amazon, from Africa to isolated Scandinavian villages - places where the long shadow of Budweiser does not fall.only women brew.
Zeroing in on the occupations of condemned women, I was stunned to discover that some 60 percent of those who had occupations referred to themselves as brewster, alewife, or midwife. Remember that our notion of "witch" came along simultaneously with 1. The rise and spread of the early Church; 2. The birth of commercial male-run breweries; and 3. The creation of guilds for physicians/surgeons.

In both Old Europe and in the New World, a woman with a surplus of beer found ready cash by selling ale to any thirsty passersby. To promote this source of income, women would place a broom in the road in front of their house. As villages turned into cities, women with a reputation for good beer permanently moved their brooms from the road to hang perpendicular over the door to their cottage. In time, houses became so crowded together, some enterprising brewster hung her broom - cantilevered - over the door - thus was born the first of all trade signs. The association of brooms with brewery is still seen from Africa to Peru, a lingering sign that beer making was a trade unique to women. Why the broom? By the 10th century, the ubiquitous broom had become the quintessential symbol of a woman's household.
Consider next the witch's hat, that tall-steepled black headgear every child associates with "witch". Our witch/midwife has her best days selling ales at fairs and festivals. These events - not entirely unlike our own county fairs and carnivals - drew the biggest, longest, free-spending thirsty audiences to the brewsters. Extending even to the weekly rural market days, people crowded into these events from all over the surrounding area. Amidst throngs of customers and vendors - alewives found the best way to sell was to be seen. Looking down an endless line of booths, a brewster was easy to find towering over everyone with her two to three foot high "witch" hat. By the 16th century the brewster's hat, along with her broomstick, became the hallmarks of her trade.

Every witch has a cat. It's an expected prerequisite to witch fashion. Why the cat? Anyone who has had stores of grain in the house will know. Rats! Rural women whose livelihood depended on the reputation of their ale protected their costly ingredients. Unlike today, cats were expected to feed themselves, guarding grain stores in the process. To the early Church, cats became the fabled "familiars": agents of the Devil, nourished on its owner's blood through a witch's teat - a hidden nipple bestowed by the Devil himself. Some historians (myself included) ascribe many European outbreaks of plague and other pandemics to the Church having killed off tens of thousands of cats. Seeing Puss as a diabolical agent of Satan, it's a miracle any of them survived.

"Midwives and nurses mediated the mysteries of birth, procreation, illness and death. They touched the untouchable, handled excrement and vomit as well as milk, swaddled the dead as well as the newborn. They brewed medicines from plants and roots, and presided over neighborhood gatherings of women."
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