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PostSubject: Re: GENE <> MEME Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:26 pm

I'm not sure to what extent sociopath and psychopath are real things, in the sense of being pathologies. Pretty much all animals in nature are like that.

A lion/ess will rip a zebra's throat out and then go cuddle with its cubs. Nothing weird about that.

It just sounds like more (((modern psychology))) by Dr. Shlomo.
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PostSubject: Re: GENE <> MEME Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:23 am

Does a lioness cuddle with zebras and rip the throats of her young?

Killing is not sociopathy.
Committing suicide by killing those like yourself, is.
Killing indiscriminately, and for the sake of killing, is.

The idea that the 'self' is an end in itself, making all others your 'enemy' is sociopathic.

A reversion to an animal state that can only recognize self, and can only identify with what is outside itself intuitively, instinctively - without knowing why or how.

A male lion does not know why it must kill the cubs another male fathered, but it does.
It does not know why or how it does not kill its own cubs...it smells itself in them and doesn't.
It's conception of 'self' is limited. It has no ability to know species identity, sexual identity, ideology, life in general.
A male lion cannot step outside itself and see the 'big picture', within which its own self-interests compete.
It recognizes no will, no law, other than its own. It is a dumb animal.

It has no ability to appreciate its species or how vulnerable to extinction it is....it acts and judges within a very shallow perceptual-event-horizon.

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PostSubject: Re: GENE <> MEME Mon Jan 21, 2019 6:38 pm



This is how metaphors can lead to errors, if taken literally. It's one of the risks in all forms of art.
The metaphor implies more than can be justified, and is actually used to insert absurdity alongside reasoning, so that the two can become indistinguishable.

Information = pattern....a vibrating/oscillating pattern - Energy.
Space = possibilities, so a patterned oscillation implies a consistent sequence interacting across multiple dimensions.
So, the sequence establishes in which dimension it is interactive, and in what sequence.
Time can be thought of as the rhythm's duration and/or speed of oscillation, in relation to the observer's own metabolic rhythms: a juxtaposition which makes time a value-judgemental.
Metaphors can imply intent, when none is necessary to explain all unities, except organic molecules, cells.
The primary intent of a cell is to replicate itself - making copies of itself. On this level there is no possibility of contradiction, nor is judgement necessary.

Only on the level of a unity of cells - a collective aggregate - such as man, can a meme theoretically contradict genes.
And it can only do so ideologically, noetically, and not pragmatically....because even if the organism is foolish enough to try it will die.
This is why Nihilism can only remain theoretical, political, and cannot be applied or, if they do, they must lie - contradicting their own stated principles.
A meme that is in harmony with the organism's genes - is an extension of them - do not require justification, nor do they require others to believe in their validity.
The environment, and the organism's success within it, suffices.
Only nihilistic memes, impotent outside human brains because they contradict reality, must validate themselves via the acknowledgement of others.

Memes are gene specific....the meme emerges within a specific population group, experiencing particular events within a particular environment.
Memes are extension of genes, evolving in unison, to begin with, and then transmitted to other genes, via semiotics.

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PostSubject: Re: GENE <> MEME Fri Feb 08, 2019 7:35 pm

Blood is the organism what language is to the Super-organism.
Genes/Memes.

We can trace a family's heritage by studying its DNA, found in Blood, skin, hair....the entire body, including the brain.
But what of the mind?
Genes refer to body....memes to mind.
Can we trace memetic heritage?


There are four major linguistic families.

1. Indo-European



2. Sino-Tibetan

3. Niger-Congo

4. Afro-Asiatic

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PostSubject: Re: GENE <> MEME Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:24 pm

Within the contexts of gene<>memes, the modern Nihilist paradigm is wilfully or not, trapped within the meme.
Even when it speaks of tangible things it means within human socio-economic cultural contexts.
In other words, if it does not completely go insane and converts its language to self-referential symbols with no external references - pure noetic abstractions - then, in a bid to appear realistic, it remains snuggled within man-made environmental contexts.
It refuses to define words by connecting them to phenomenon, or refuses to connect them to phenomena outside human culture.

Firstly, it defines ways that is unrealistic....so as to make the attainment of understanding impossible, or to project it 'outside' reality - outside the time/space continuum.
Secondly, when it hypocritically pretend to be empirical, and science oriented, seeking truth, it cannot connect its language to both human systems and natural ones.
It deals with the dissonance by remaining within manmade human environments - within the political, the moral as this has been defined by Abrahamism and is now adopted by modernism.
even the word 'morality' it cannot define, or cannot connect ti to life, organisms....it must only remain within the human.

Humanity = World....World = Humanity.
Humanity = God....God = Humanity.

The Modern Nihilists has not overcome 'god...has not 'murdered' the idea...he's baptised it....and given it a new name.
Moderns are reinventing everything from Judeo-Christianity to Marxism, by using language as if it had magical properties.
It says it in the bible - Logos.

Logos is omnipotent....if you can name it, it exists....if you can think it it is probable.
They are conveniently trapped in logos.
Even when they exit this esoteric realm they exit into a man-made realm...logos externalized.
They never dare leave the Matrix....they are psychologically institutionalized.
Code for 'domesticated'.

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PostSubject: Re: GENE <> MEME Thu Feb 21, 2019 5:28 pm

Jon Perry is describing genes to memes.


*Although 'school shooting' is not, in my view a 'meme' in the context that I use it.
School shootings, or any seemingly 'random' and 'senseless' events, are the by-products of memes, or how memes express themselves, in this case a virus-meme infecting a host-meme has a symptom these types of social events.

*Memes are mind-dependent.
They spread through semiotics/language.
Memes are extension of genes. They emerge out of the specific relationships evolved over centuries, between a genetic population and its environment.
They represent this relationship in the form of language, rituals, sexual norms, spiritual beliefs, ways of relating to reality etc.

*Religion is not automatically a virus....but some religions are viruses, and like biological viruses they replicate themselves through the host, whereas healthy spirituality accentuates the host's reproduction and does not inhibit it in order to replicate itself.
A meme that is in alignment with the host accentuates the host's functions they do not usurp or contradict them to replicate themselves, like a virus-meme would.
A virus-meme can infect the host with ideas that contradict the host's survival and its reproduction.

*A parasite/virus symbiont would be an independent host masking itself as belonging to another host's group, suing the virus to undermine the host.
So it may appear, and behave, as if it belonged to a group it would actually undermine the host it intestates by using a virus-meme to accentuate the process and the effectiveness of its parasitism.
A parasite/virus symbiont would actually be convinced that it was 'truly' a member of the host it was infesting, because self-deceit makes deceit more effective and efficient.
The individual representing the symbiont may be convinced that it was working for the interests of the host it was undermining and slowly killing; its every choice would be to promote the replication of the virus-meme at the expense of the host and its own interests.

*The 'random' mistakes that result in an innovation are the result of 'chaos' properly understood: not complexity but randomness.
Through cellular self-replication (mitosis) random mutations emerge, some of them detrimental to the host, but some offering a slight advantage which is then propagated across populations.
The same process manifests in memetic mutations through meme-replication. Through the 'transmission' of the meme from mind to mind environmental factors slightly modify the meme - random energies affecting the meme in the process of transmission and processing - so that the meme is slightly different in the new-host than it was in the old-host, transmitting it.
This is how ideologies evolve from a original into something that resembles it, sharing only a core number of principles, ideas, that are then manifesting differently.
The Nihilistic-meme is an example of such mutations becoming cancerous, unhindered by external factors as much as they would have been if they were exposed, outside a 'host'. The nihilistic-meme hides inside the host, to protect itself from reality, the world outside the organic boundaries of the host. this is why nihilistic-memes can survive while promoting ideas that have no meaning outside the host's mind. The ideas representing the virus-meme are impotent, nonsense that cannot survive outside a host, even while it is gradually undermining the host's survival and replication potentials.

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PostSubject: Re: GENE <> MEME Thu Feb 21, 2019 6:24 pm

If we isolate the nihilsitic-meme we can trace it back to its source and then understand why it was so viral.
In my view the nihilist-meme emerges as a defensive reaction to emerging self-consciousness, exposing the mind to concepts that produce anxiety/fear in it, i.e. how the individual compares to others, and how others perceive it - empathy.
Nihilism also projects into world ideas referring to abstractions that do not exist independently i.e. absolutes.
These absolutes offer the mind a relief from their anxiety/fear, so the memes are easily propagated from mind to mind, and through constant transmission they mutate: either due to random mutations occurring during transmission, or due to the host's particular pre-existing memes forcing the meme to adjust, or to be adjusted to the particularities of the new host.
Nihilism is the product of a defence mechanism, and so they can only exist in human brains, and they can only remain sensible and useful within them. They are totally useless and nonsensical outside, in reference to the world outside the brain/mind.

This is why we have so many variations of nihilism. Everything from the Abrahamic religions, rooted in Zoroastrianism, to secular forms such as political ideologies, like Marxism.

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PostSubject: Re: GENE <> MEME Thu Feb 21, 2019 8:03 pm

Some might think it ironic that the members of the parasitic symbiont responsible for the infection is, currently, advocates for a return to a previous point of 'health'.

People like Gad Saad, Rubin, Ben Shapiro, and Jordan Peterson.
An irony that is mirrored in anti-Communists neo-cons being 'children' of Trotsyism.

It's a paradox, an intellectual conundrum, a dissonance that identifies the source through its symptomatology.
We do not perceive a viral infection, the presence of disease, directly. We don't actually see the virus, or the cells infestation the host.
Parasites are easier to detect, though they sometimes hide their presence on a host, by trying to mix into its appearance - remaining as inconspicuous as possible.  
It's easier to detect the presence of disease through symptoms.

Paradoxes, and conundrums are a symptom.

If we identify the source, diagnosing the symptoms, then it all becomes clear.
A 'return' to a previous state, so as to avoid detection, or to escape once being detected, is to be expected.
Why are these individuals all part of particular genetic/memetic groups, and why do they all remain focused on sex and sexual dysphoria....or the insanity of post-modernity and its current identity-crisis symptomatology?

Why, for example are both Peterson and Jones antagonists belonging to different variants of Christianity?
Why has Catholicism become the source of the greatest resistance to this disease?
I can think, off the top of my had, of Jones and Crowder.
Why are both Peterson and Crowder famous for standing up to Feminism and sexual confusion, rooted in post-modernist ideology?
Why are there so many Jewish commentators speaking against this 'trend', when Abrahamism is the source?
A shard source, splintering into variants, that compete.
The debate remains on sexual issues....rarely, if ever, spilling over into race etc.

Has the disease exceeded its reach, and is currently 'correcting' itself, by returning to an earlier, more stable, tried and tested, position? Did it expose itself in the process, and is now wiggling back under cover?
Did it overestimate its own powers, due to its previous successes?
The only natural identifier that seems to be a barrier for further infection is in the area of male/female biological identifiers.
This is the arena where they come forth to pull the entire process back form the insanity it is producing.
Race, then homosexuality, but at this point when males can claim to be females trapped in male bodies and females trapped in male bodies, is where things have gone too far, exposing the 'logic' underlying the entire ideology.

The same 'reasoning' that claimed race was a social construct, and that defended homosexuality by inverting its own 'reasoning' is now unable to proceed in accordance with its own 'principles'.....because it is being exposed as what it is to even mediocre minds.
The masses are not yet ready for this step....they need to be primed with more edumucation and television and movies and pop-cultural indoctrination before the disease proceeds further.

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PostSubject: Re: GENE <> MEME Thu Feb 21, 2019 8:20 pm

A parasite is so out of its element when pretending to belong to a host, that it cannot but expose itself, in subtle ways.
For example, paganism the spirituality of light, is converted to occultism and Satanism when adopted by an alien, asiatic gene-pool, and though it wears the outer appearance of the hosts it intestates it cannot help but reveal its true essence in the way it carries the garments it has put on to hide.
Through attitude and language use, through subtle nuance and lurid hyperbole, the imposter is exposed.
It cannot remain hidden; its nature must come forth one way or another.

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PostSubject: Re: GENE <> MEME Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:01 pm

Human memes are similar to the extent that humanity shares a common species heritage, and diverge, to the degree that specific populations evolved separately, within distinct environmental conditions, during which art, language and ideas that would becomes culture, began to form.

Therefore there is a common ground, to all cultures, concerning sex and violence, because the lowest-common-denominator is species identity. Divergence begins on the higher cognitive planes, where the particular genes interacted with particular environments, producing distinct relationships with existence that would becomes different cultures.
These distinctions follow racial and linguistic lines.
Not only appearance, shaped by environmental conditioning, but semiotics, expressing this relationship.

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PostSubject: Re: GENE <> MEME Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:20 pm

We can use an extreme example to clarify what may be too subtle for most to perceive and/or accept.
Consider the psychosomatic differences between a Zulu and an Eskimo, evolved of thousands of years of genetic isolation - geographical distances and climatic boundaries.

Each evolved different physical and mental potentials, and its is present in their appearance - a difference in degree, average median potentials.
Their language and culture reflects this, because they evolved both physically and mentally, during this period, and in relation to the degree the environment stressed them, forcing them to adapt.
The Eskimo to a greater degree than the Zulu, who never left human primordial areas.

Language is a living fossil of history, and so it clearly differentiates genetic lines, as these evolved over large periods of isolation and environmental conditioning. Language represents the particular historical relationship of a tribe with its environment.
they can be used to track and trace human racial categories, no matter how Modern deny and dismiss them.  
Though presently race-mixing is occurring, blurring the physical lines, and reducing all to a median, language remains clear and distinct, because memes do not deteriorate nor can they be easily merged, because they leave a track that cannot be erased, particularly when the meme is more than orally shared but has a written component.
An Eskimo may learn Zulu, and even enjoy visiting them, but he can never embody the Zulu spirit, as this is reflects in Zulu culture, expressed though Zulu language, and the same holds true for a Zulu who becomes inspired by Eskimo culture.
A man can learn a language, appreciate a foreign culture, and still be unable to fully embody the spirit of the culture.

With the convolution of culture, and mixing, this is gradually eroded, and all individuals feel alienated from all cultures, forcing them to seek relief in substitutes, like chemicals, distractions, fashion, popular-culture.
Look at the plight of the American Negro, who no longer knows from where in Africa he is descended, and is, himself, of mixed blood. What is left for him but pop-culture, money, drugs, hedonism etc. He has no other way to create an identity. but it is shallow, and unable to give him the psychological support, so he behaves like all orphans do - they seek validation in strangers.

Genetic lines of divergence are distinguished by memetic lines - language being a meme's version of what DNA is for genes.
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There are memes so different as to contradict each other's world-view, i.e. Judaism & Hellenism. These have become the west's defining memes, struggling, mixing, creating intellectual dissonance.
Christianity tries to synthesize them by suing obscurantism, superstition and hypocrisy - Jesus became the symbol of this contradictory synthesis, and the narrative of his 'life' represents his 'rebirth as pure ideology, so as to deal with genetic disparity.  
You can admire, learn a language, adopt certain cultural rituals, practices, and still you cannot embody the culture, because a meme does not emerge out of nothing, but is an extension of a genetic continuum, and it reflects a history manifesting as a relationship of a specific people with a specific environment, even if the environment may have disappeared or been corrupted.
I can learn Inuit, visit them in their traditional homeland, live in accordance to their cultural norms and I still can never be an Inuit.

Life is about memory...and so genes/memes refer to memories - a continuum...a chain of causality, passed from parent to child.
What we refer to as 'latent' are memories that have not been triggered, or that work on a subconscious level where the individual may not even be aware of it.
Every experience is contained in a genome, and every historical event, that shaped a people, is contained, in some subtle way, in its culture, expressed in its language.

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PostSubject: Re: GENE <> MEME Wed Mar 20, 2019 7:13 pm

The gene<>meme metaphor is clear.

Genetic categories, genetically based identities, extent, in space/time, as memes, i.e. ideologies, spiritual rituals, traditions, morals, values, everything under the umbrella of 'culture'.
Meme is the central code, the unifying memory, that does not come from nothing, but is an externalization of genetic memory, called DNA.

No single physical trait defines the genetic type: species, race, breed, kind....
It is identified by multiple traits and the inherited potentials, as well as the memetic extensions.
Yockey's definition of 'race', as "vertical", meaning spiritual.
The mind/body synthesis is referred to as 'spirit' and/or psyche.

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PostSubject: Re: GENE <> MEME Thu Mar 21, 2019 10:31 am

The sophistication of a gene/meme synthesis determines how many and on what level they can be integrated into a common identifier.
Less sophisticated memes permit more integration, replacing quality with quantity, starting from the lowest-common-denominator.
More sophisticated memes prohibit integration, but only superficial imitations and appreciations.
This is why the popular, whether it be in art or philosophy, is always a degradation, seeking the lowest, so as to integrate the most.
This also allows for hypocrisy to pretend sophistication - using obscurantism and occultism - insinuating sophistication so as to hide a basic low-denominator, through convoluted language and rearranging semiotic sequences, it implies that its emptiness hides a deeper substance, and that its confusion is really a cover for higher understanding. usually what substance is present is so base, and so 'self-serving' - primal - that it has to use these semantics to hide its intent and the baseness of its principles.
The rearrangement of linguistic conventions also implies a 'revolutionary' cocnept; an unforeseeable advancement in human thinking, when all it is is linguistic pretence.
The audience, desiring for an escape a change, will project into the unconventional language its own ideological utopia, and the baseness of the language, emptiness, will permit any projection to take root. Then it becomes a matter of which projection will serve the majority.  

A case of confusing complexity for randomness, or pretending that randomness, chaos, is really a cover for an underlying order.
We see this in modern fArt, particularly in what is called 'abstract'. Garbage insinuating a deeper wealth, which the audience must project into it, because it is not present. The fArtists simply insinuates, and allows the gullible impressionable fool to fill in what is absent, masking his true motive, which is profit, i.e. fame and fortune.
The insinuation usually takes the form of something basic - lowest-common-denominator - having to do with human needs/desires. The shallowness of the intent is compensated by the audience's projections of their personal and private needs and desires.  They see what they want to see, because the fArt is nonsensical, or simplistic, infantile, common - as common as possible.

Honest, sophisticated gene/meme synthesis does not allow for such manipulations and primal contrivances. It is exclusionary, and not inclusive. It clarifies rather than obscures, not permitting any interpretation to apply. It is obvious, not allowing foolish mind-games to exploit vagueness - masculine.
For this reason the Greeks never had any rules against competing gods and/or alien cultures. They assimilated what was useful, knowing that the inferior can only be integrated on its lowest stratum, leaving the higher unaffected - high culture.
This was partly its naivete, because the lowly eats away at the foundations toppling the structure, no mater how high it has reached. A termite can bring down a well-built house; vermin and parasites can eat away at a sophisticated organism.

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