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PostSubject: White privilege.    Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:31 am

Im trying to understand this concept.

Ive tried listening to youtube vids and other articles discussing this but i cannot stomach either watching nor reading them to the end. I makes me quite literally sick.

Is this really a valid concept? Everytime i even try to take the view into consideration i feel ashamed of being white.
But how am i supposed to combat the concept when i dont quite understand it?

I'd like to hear back on this if possible and thanks in advance.
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PostSubject: Re: White privilege.    Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:51 am

It's a way of attacking white excellence by suggesting that any perceived inequalities are a result of whites "cheating" by rigging the system.

Thus, discrimination against whites becomes "fair" in order to correct this supposed injustice.

It's racism.

"Cis" privilege is another, used by trannies. Comfortable-in-skin.

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PostSubject: Re: White privilege.    Sun Mar 10, 2013 8:10 pm

novice wrote:
Im trying to understand this concept.

Ive tried listening to youtube vids and other articles discussing this but i cannot stomach either watching nor reading them to the end. I makes me quite literally sick.

Is this really a valid concept? Everytime i even try to take the view into consideration i feel ashamed of being white.
But how am i supposed to combat the concept when i dont quite understand it?

I'd like to hear back on this if possible and thanks in advance.

Read upon your clan/family history, your country and your racial history. See what is it about Whites that you are ashamed of, or made to feel ashamed of... no short cuts. Confront yourself and heritage honestly.
Even if white "privileges" were lying about, you'll have to make them yours; self Real-ize it. Else you won't discover/carve your self-worth.


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PostSubject: Re: White privilege.    Mon Mar 11, 2013 1:42 pm

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It's a way of attacking white excellence by suggesting that any perceived inequalities are a result of whites "cheating" by rigging the system.

Thus, discrimination against whites becomes "fair" in order to correct this supposed injustice.

It's racism.

"Cis" privilege is another, used by trannies. Comfortable-in-skin.


Yeah i figured as much. It seems as though people who proclaim white privilege are the ones that are the most vicous and venomous of people looking for an excuse to "bash".

Appreciate the response.

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Read upon your clan/family history, your country and your racial history. See what is it about Whites that you are ashamed of, or made to feel ashamed of... no short cuts. Confront yourself and heritage honestly.
Even if white "privileges" were lying about, you'll have to make them yours; self Real-ize it. Else you won't discover/carve your self-worth.

Yes, Lyssa. Ive dug up as much as i can on my heritage and I cant say im ashamed at all of my heritage. It makes my blood pump harder when i think about it, in pride.
What i meant by feeling shame is that i can kinda see their arguments and "feel" the implications. I dont agree with it and i believe it is flawed. If you guys dont mind i would like to break the arguments down and maybe we can go through them together if you gusy wouldnt mind. I'll be on later tonight and copy and paste their key arguments here and we will take it from there.
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PostSubject: Re: White privilege.    Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:29 pm

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] is all i could really find. This is all pretty redundant. I am no longer interested in exploring it.
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PostSubject: Re: White privilege.    Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:14 pm

Nice link Novice; you can see the whole academia backing up such 'clinical studies' and such blame/shame premises.
This happened last month: a nine year old child shamed and bullied for being white Suicides.
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Leaving the issue of racism aside, I wonder how on earth does a nine-year old! think of suicide and death? How does he learn how to kill himself? How does he learn death can end his suffering?...

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PostSubject: Re: White privilege.    Tue Mar 12, 2013 5:05 pm

I think we whites will come out all the stronger after these times. This is the weeding out of the weakest whites. The feminization and white shame. While all the other races are catered too and dont have to grow. Yet the underlying agenda of the zio-machine still makes the future uncertain to predict accurately.
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PostSubject: Re: White privilege.    Tue Mar 12, 2013 6:04 pm

Decadence was a good documentary.
Nothing new, but a useful repetition of what Modernity is and what Libertarianism is leading to.

But, they still make it seem like porn, in the second episode dealing with sex, is what is driving people apart.
I do not believe this is the case.

For me porn, and all this sexual dysfunction and alienation and dissatisfaction, is a necessary part of this disconnect between man and nature...his own nature.
Porn is a technological compensation, managing the disparity Modern ideals are creating between man and reality.
Porn is how the current culture deals with the residual effects of feminization and Modern decay, based on a anti-nature underpinning.

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PostSubject: Re: White privilege.    Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:10 pm

Satyr wrote:
Decadence was a good documentary.
Nothing new, but a useful repetition of what Modernity is and what Libertarianism is leading to.

Yes, its nothing new; that's why I posted the whole list - it is a generalizing of our times.

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But, they still make it seem like porn, in the second episode dealing with sex, is what is driving people apart.
I do not believe this is the case.

For me porn, and all this sexual dysfunction and alienation and dissatisfaction, is a necessary part of this disconnect between man and nature...his own nature.
Porn is a technological compensation, managing the disparity Modern ideals are creating between man and reality.
Porn is how the current culture deals with the residual effects of feminization and Modern decay, based on a anti-nature underpinning.

Thanks.


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PostSubject: Re: White privilege.    Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:11 pm

novice wrote:
I think we whites will come out all the stronger after these times. This is the weeding out of the weakest whites. The feminization and white shame. While all the other races are catered too and dont have to grow. Yet the underlying agenda of the zio-machine still makes the future uncertain to predict accurately.

Pressure makes or breaks.

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PostSubject: Re: White privilege.    Mon Sep 16, 2013 9:26 am

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] is all i could really find.  This is all pretty redundant.  I am no longer interested in exploring it.
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PostSubject: Re: White privilege.    Fri Sep 20, 2013 7:15 pm

A thought which occurred to me while watching the following video about white privelege.
This idea of "White Privilege" may also be a way of ensuring the dumbing down of white people. Telling children that they're privileged and should feel guilty about that not only demotivates them (seeing as society's opinion, or rather, their parents', are important to a child) but also sends an underlying message that they do not have to work for anything - it will come to them, because they're white.
If in their achievements they only look forward to guilt and the path of least resistance opened up to them is to do nothing but be white then experience, motivation and the self-control which comes with all of it will be stunted. This may also explain the narcissistic entitlement newer generations have.

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That's about as far as my courage and pride allowed me to go.
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PostSubject: Re: White privilege.    Sat Sep 21, 2013 1:17 am

You're speaking of those who actually do have some degree of privilege. I couldn't agree more that by telling those with privilege how privileged they are, they will suffer from guilt and lack of motivation. I have never been privileged in comparison to those surrounding me so I always took it as insulting and hypocrisy. The problem is that I showed weakness in my response to it. I would claim that those underprivileged white people deserved extra help just like black people would get extra help whether they needed it or not. If I made those claims as only a tactic to fool people it wouldn't have been as bad, but I really meant it.

We could try to shame those who use the term "white privilege" by explaining to them or showing them videos of white people who live terribly, not just as a group, but individuals. Any account of a white person who has suffered terrible illness his entire life or photo of a white person which is very difficult to look at, because of the pity it provokes, with a caption that says "White Privilege" would work. And then if one wanted to go even further, one only would need to find a photo of healthy rich black people laughing amongst themselves next to the other photo, maybe even include an address where us ancestors of slave owners can send our reparation money. Or even go farther and say that the extremely underprivileged white person had put off an important surgery to do his part in the reparations, maybe claim that if his physical pain isn't keeping him up at night, his shame for his ancestors and his tears for the plight of the average middle class black person are.

But, these tactics are shameful in themselves. When one hears an angry swine screeching at him, it is best to throw it some swill and move on.
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PostSubject: Re: White privilege.    Mon Sep 23, 2013 3:22 pm

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PostSubject: Re: White privilege.    Mon Feb 10, 2014 12:21 pm

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PostSubject: Re: White privilege.    Mon Feb 10, 2014 1:12 pm

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Foreshadowing a fuller discussion later in this introduction, we can broadly sketch Sahlins’ answer to the question of how it is that cultures cease to produce continuity through change by noting that it turns on the notion of humiliation. People will not stop perceiving the world that confronts them through their received categories and bending it to their own values until they come to see those categories and values – that is, their culture – as something shameful and debased. To quote a turn of phrase that almost every chapter of the volume discusses: before people give up on their culture, they

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must first learn to hate what they already have, what they have always considered their
well-being. Beyond that, they have to despise what they are, to hold their own existence
in contempt – and want, then, to be someone else (Sahlins, 1992a, p.24).


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PostSubject: Re: White privilege.    Tue Apr 15, 2014 9:47 pm

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PostSubject: Re: White privilege.    Wed Apr 16, 2014 12:06 am

Anti anti-white is really becoming another type of propaganda... maybe inadvertently... also david duke is such a tool...
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PostSubject: Re: White privilege.    Wed Apr 16, 2014 4:09 am

perpetualburn wrote:
also david duke is such a tool...

Absolutely!

He's a total red herring.
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PostSubject: Re: White privilege.    Wed Apr 16, 2014 9:50 am

Perpetual, I'm aware of that, and he's one of those pro-Xt. anti-semitic fundamentalists, but this video makes relevant points.

The situation today [consider how Xt. Golden Dawn is] has become that propaganda can be dealt only with propaganda... and I believe that's a fair way to go since it initially takes a Crude Barbarism to give a jolt first. Win it at every quarter. Play bad,, then play bad.

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PostSubject: Re: White privilege.    Sat Jul 26, 2014 12:06 pm

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