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PostSubject: False Superiority Mon Aug 24, 2009 7:26 pm

The difference of power is determined by degree.

It can never happen enough during these times of decadence that the weak masquerade as the strong.

Cultural changes wage permissiveness to the failed adaptation of genetics and psychological dexterity. Due to this change, comes changes in populace of the weak and the strong where the weak reign freely among the strong, and where sheltered environments and rights propelled by secular humanism and new age socialism prolong what has become a cancer upon humanity.

To tolerate the weak is to adapt to these changes that are so pervasive and ubiquitous, but when the weak attempt to transmute their deficiency into power, marching for equality, problems arise. The weak being the base for the strong and the mortar for the walls the strong construct. Natural selection allows for the replication and manifestation for what survives without artificial assistance. In other words, what can survive on its own, will do so without influence by man-made constructs.

But because nature filters out the weaknesses and the unusable products, the weak must be kept protected by such man-made constructs, which in turn provides a psychological benefit that the weak exploit to become the strong; in effect resulting in parasitism.

Protection, especially when it is perennial, promotes a comfort that instills within the weak a sense of "entitlement" and power, of which is nonexistent, but palatable in their own minds.

The toleration of this travesty must occur out of necessity to assimilate with alterations in nature. However, toleration may be substituted for animosity once the weak attempt to be the strong.
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PostSubject: Re: False Superiority Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:40 am

While I agree for the most part, the weak are strong if they are in any sort of control. One tiny parasite can kill one large body. That is a form of strength.
many bodies have died because they disdain the strength of the parasite.
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PostSubject: Re: False Superiority Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:19 pm

False superiority is when you forget you're merely a human.

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PostSubject: Re: False Superiority Tue Aug 25, 2009 2:08 pm

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While I agree for the most part, the weak are strong if they are in any sort of control.

You have misunderstood.

This control is the illusion they hold as their farce for strength.


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One tiny parasite can kill one large body. That is a form of strength.
many bodies have died because they disdain the strength of the parasite.


You do not understand the meaning of parasitism in a sociological context.

It means one or many individuals who use a disingenuous demeanor to represent themselves as a benign obedient party; innocuous, subservient, while misrepresenting themselves as something they aren't. In this case it is something superior.

However, the weak may become strong in numbers.
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PostSubject: Re: False Superiority Tue Aug 25, 2009 2:30 pm

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This control is the illusion they hold as their farce for strength.

It is this illusion, however, the masquerade of strength, which may harm the greater organism.

If, in sociality, the leaders are weak parasites - then the sociality will be harmed as a result.

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PostSubject: Re: False Superiority Tue Aug 25, 2009 2:35 pm

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If, in sociality, the leaders are weak parasites - then the sociality will be harmed as a result.

Correct.

And this problem is becoming ever more paramount as the weak grow in numbers, and the strong become obscured by them.
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PostSubject: Re: False Superiority Tue Aug 25, 2009 2:36 pm

What you guys call the "illusion" of superiority is only possible within an environment where the weak are guaranteed safety; when an even more superior entity, such as an institution, saves them from the worse repercussions of their deceit and their posturing.

In any other environment the deceit is like a poker bluff. The first one that calls the inferior hand, exposes it for what it is.

But now the ultimate price is paid.
Even in poker the worse repercussions of deceit are lessened by institutional intervention.
The player will never starve to death...so poker is a game of who is willing to lose the most.

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PostSubject: Re: False Superiority Tue Aug 25, 2009 3:56 pm

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kriswest wrote:
While I agree for the most part, the weak are strong if they are in any sort of control.

You have misunderstood.

This control is the illusion they hold as their farce for strength.


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One tiny parasite can kill one large body. That is a form of strength.
many bodies have died because they disdain the strength of the parasite.


You do not understand the meaning of parasitism in a sociological context.

It means one or many individuals who use a disingenuous demeanor to represent themselves as a benign obedient party; innocuous, subservient, while misrepresenting themselves as something they aren't. In this case it is something superior.

However, the weak may become strong in numbers.

Even illusion is strength. if you can blind so many with illusion then you have a strength. i do understand it in a sociological context. Very much so . You can not take leadership it is given by those whom you convince to follow you. if they believe your illusion then you are still their leader and so superior to them until they see the illusion for what it is. The use of words for these parasitic humans is their web. they spin a fine web with their control of language. it becomes real until fully tested. Strength has many forms even forms we find distasteful.
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PostSubject: Re: False Superiority Tue Aug 25, 2009 6:16 pm

Like all weaklnigs her only avenue to power is by convincing others and herself that its all fake.

Little girl, I don't know why you come around to places like this, but strength is pragmatic not theoretical.

The fact that you come here means you are attracted by somehting more powerful than you, somehting you lack and that you seek to either attain or to belong to.

If power, strength, were all an illusion nature would not use it to determine fitness.

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PostSubject: Re: False Superiority Wed Aug 26, 2009 8:49 am

Really? And I suppose you are a big strong male that is vastly superior to females?
You sound more like a petulant school boy that has to insult in order to boost your weak self esteem. You should work on the illusion that you are a mature self controled man, you might impress people rather than have them laugh at your school boy petulance.

If you cannot see that strength comes in different forms and ways you are the uneducated one. Nature does use illusion to determine fitness. In many creatures the ones that survive are the ones that can create the illusion they are something that they are not, by physical appearance , sound , smell. It is natural that as sentient beings our minds will develop a way to create illusions with words that we are something we are not since communication is so important to our evolution.
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PostSubject: Re: False Superiority Wed Aug 26, 2009 10:25 am

It comes in different useless ways.

Being superior in badminton when you are clearly retarded and being superior in knitting when you are ugly and fat is a small consolation.
In fact it can be considered a compensation.

But the context here is not ambiguous....it is survival.

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PostSubject: Re: False Superiority Wed Aug 26, 2009 10:44 am

Useless to you but, not to others or to themselves. Survival is handled differently in different situations. Bad mitton superiority maybe the way that person pays for their living the same with the knitter. To you it may seem a small compensation but to them it maybe a wonderful thing. It gives them strength and a form of independence. Life has many facets its not one size fits all. Strength and survial adjusts to each facet. Just because it does not suit you or those around you does not make it useless.
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PostSubject: Re: False Superiority Wed Aug 26, 2009 11:02 am

Within a system that makes such trivial pursuits possible.

Only when survival is ensured do minds seek alternative methods of self-improvement or making themselves useful or escaping reality or substituting physical prowess form a talent in striking a ball.

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PostSubject: Re: False Superiority Wed Aug 26, 2009 11:44 am

Yes but such pursuits can be traded on survival things. Bad Mitton requires more than just striking a ball it requires focus, speed and dexterity. In hunting food such things are required. Knitting clothes or chain mail for a hunter's/warriors survival ensures payment of food and or shelter. Many trivial pursuits can translate in to survival skills. Much the way young animals play, they do not know or care that they are learning survival skills they are just enjoying knocking the crap out of their littermates.

I imagine you can think of things that seem trivial that do not translate easily but, for the most part any sort of entertainment or seemingly nonsensical skill can be translated into an ability for survival. Social creatures trade skills. Some gain food by protecting others , some gain protection by hunting for others and some sit on eggs. Our sentience creates a complex interweaving of skills that can be applied in different ways and traded on. Those that have nothing or no abilities or will , cannot survive in any situation other than as burdens to their social group.

For the most part the average human has abilites and skills that they are woefully ignorant of. Each has strength that they are unware of because there is no survival need. Unless there is drive and will there can be no survival.
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PostSubject: Re: False Superiority Wed Aug 26, 2009 12:34 pm

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Yes but such pursuits can be traded on survival things. Bad Mitton requires more than just striking a ball it requires focus, speed and dexterity. In hunting food such things are required. Knitting clothes or chain mail for a hunter's/warriors survival ensures payment of food and or shelter. Many trivial pursuits can translate in to survival skills. Much the way young animals play, they do not know or care that they are learning survival skills they are just enjoying knocking the crap out of their littermates.
Yes, and so leisure time is itself a product of superiority.

When you are stressed to survive you don't play...you do or die.

In human systems survival is guaranteed, so even weaklings and unfit individuals can pursue hobbies with not much cost, given that they provide to the whole a service.

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I imagine you can think of things that seem trivial that do not translate easily but, for the most part any sort of entertainment or seemingly nonsensical skill can be translated into an ability for survival. Social creatures trade skills. Some gain food by protecting others , some gain protection by hunting for others and some sit on eggs. Our sentience creates a complex interweaving of skills that can be applied in different ways and traded on. Those that have nothing or no abilities or will , cannot survive in any situation other than as burdens to their social group.
Yes, once survival is maintained then the excess energies can be devoted to trivial shit with little or no direct survival benefit....like playing games.
The skills may be similar but the context is far removed from reality....reality is abstracted into a game with rules that imitates reality.

So, being retarded but a good football player is not fit outside the social context of the game.

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For the most part the average human has abilites and skills that they are woefully ignorant of. Each has strength that they are unware of because there is no survival need. Unless there is drive and will there can be no survival.
This implies, like the good romantic liberal that you are, that in the end all balances out.....but reality contradicts you.

There is no divine balance where someone is good at this but is balanced by him being bad at that.

In fact natural selection is based on an imbalance....an inequality which is selected.
Otherwise there is no advantage to being different.

Social behavior is a compromise and it is based no making all useful to the whole....or more precisely to the elite that controls the whole.
Like in wolf packs the subordinate males and females play supportive roles, even thuogh they will never reproduce themselves.

In Evolution psychology this is explained by the fact that they carry the same genes and so even the supportive members gain by their contributions since they provide for 1/4 or 1/10 of their genes by providing for the offpsring of the dominate pair.

In human groups exceeding a certain number this same instinct is manipulated by trainnig the individual to associate self with the greater Self...the Nation or the race or the tribe or God etc.
By doing so they make him a willing contributor to the welfare of the dominate cast the dominating elite.

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PostSubject: Re: False Superiority Wed Aug 26, 2009 12:43 pm

Death is a balance some will always die . no liberalism I frankly could not care less about folks that do not do for themselves. if they remain blind then they are their own worst enemy and i care not one whit about such stupidity.
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PostSubject: Re: False Superiority Wed Aug 26, 2009 1:09 pm

Then you believe in superiority, dear woman.

I have a very specific idea of what I mean by superiority....and it has nothing to do with playing tennis well or being a good cook or running fast.

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PostSubject: Re: False Superiority Thu Aug 27, 2009 8:52 am

So what is your specific idea?
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PostSubject: Re: False Superiority Thu Aug 27, 2009 10:33 am

The only superiority I recognize is in the one trait that separates man from all other beasts.

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PostSubject: Re: False Superiority Thu Aug 27, 2009 4:37 pm

Which is?
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PostSubject: Re: False Superiority Thu Aug 27, 2009 4:38 pm

the oposable thumb, silly Smile
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PostSubject: Re: False Superiority Thu Aug 27, 2009 4:42 pm

Oh dear....I'm not gonna give you all the answers.
you prove what a brilliant mind you are and think.

What is the one thing man exceeds all other creatures in, and explains man's dominance?

Cheetahs are faster, lions stronger...ants more cooperative, bees more productive, cows reproductive, and most other creatures more sensually acute...so why does mankind dominate?

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PostSubject: Re: False Superiority Fri Aug 28, 2009 8:45 am

The obvious answer is creating tools to subjugate the world and its creatures. Oh and the thumb. The human mind is acutely adept at problem solving if need arises.
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