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PostSubject: Re: Advertisements, Commercials & Propaganda Sat Feb 15, 2014 5:31 pm

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Just when you think you've seen it all.  The multi-racial choir of a new dawn, lead by a pretty white girl partnered by some adult African male(displaying physical movements of an African, beating his drum etc) all within this strange attempt at a "magical" theme.  African music communicated by a multi-racial group bursting through the eternal Icy European home, the African "dawn" displacing the Northern sun?  The mixing of themes, the distinction of people and places obsolete.  Everyone is "home" everywhere.

Your comment reminds me of the King Kong movie which is a quintessential sub-textual display of the White man's anxiety towards the negroes they brought over in chains across the seas. The nigger steals their fine white women and then proceeds to destroy the cities. I guess this anxiety, truly, did come into fruition.



A side note: I find it very interesting how negroes have an affinity for copulating with White females, but once a White man decides to get with a Black female, the Black males go absolutely ape shit, foaming at the mouth with rage. I guess it's only okay when they do it.



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PostSubject: Re: Advertisements, Commercials & Propaganda Sat Feb 15, 2014 10:21 pm

Yes, well. That's the popular narrative alright. Reality does not quite coincide.

For example:
http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/your-race-affects-whether-people-write-you-back/

Even the fags are in on it, but to a lesser degree:

http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/same-sex-data-race-reply/

It seems to be a natural conclusion that the white racial spirit that was central, or became central later in the minds of the victors, of the ideologies of the defeated european powers in WW2, is being consciously suppressed in apparent fear that it might arise again. This whole situation is at base reactionary, to use their terminology.

Unrestrained immigration to European countries, the deconstruction of european identity, culture, gradual Americanization and niggerization and the reinvention of european history as an ethno-centric colonialist mistake, essentially.... is a deliberate attempt to prevent nationalism or at least a strong sense of group identity amongst whites.

I am strongly reminded of the similarities between this ideology and the way in which Christianity overcame ancient Rome. In that case the masters of the Mediterranean, the masters of the wordly, the Imperialists, the conquerors, became self-hating, world-denying flaggelants attempting to atone for their original sin, ordained upon them by a Jewish god, who died for them. From a position of materialist supremacy, poverty became a virtue.

To me it's like the traits that make a people exceptional are recognised and then focused upon in order to cause that people to be ashamed or to deny the very traits that make them great, or at least in this case to make them distinct, to allow them to exist at all. An inversion is performed, an overturning of a hierarchy.
The similarities are eerie, naming no names.
Except, in the modern iteration instead of Christian celibacy which results in lack of reproduction, the respective race is focused upon as having an individual sense of pride or identity of itself which is the source of it's sin and the way in which this can be atoned for is to then interbreed with other races, or at least fuck them, or be seen socializing with them, in order to prove that you are not subject to the evils of pride in yourself and in your bloodline.

A reverence for yourself, for your bloodline, your people, your land, your ancestors is in the present age (if you are white) the definition of evil, with Hitler as chief devil, as it conjures up images of gas chambers and niggers getting lynched in the South and so forth. The essential moral programming with respect to the association of certain trigger words with emotional imagery has already been achieved.
It seems to be the foundation of the cultural mythology that America is built upon: evil Nazis, massacring the Jews, who were innocent victims.... and whom any moral, right-thinking (American) person must protect and save.

This idolization of victim-status becomes a focus for an altruistically based society, a Marxist system, where those with ability must serve those in need, precisely because their ability marks them for servitude. In other words, whites atone for colonialism and past "exploitations" through financial aid programs like modern charities and such.
One would assume that a natural hierarchy, at the outset, would form around ability - that excellence would dominate. But we are living in a time of collapse, in the aftermath of an inversion of such a hierarchy.

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PostSubject: Re: Advertisements, Commercials & Propaganda Sun Feb 16, 2014 8:45 am

Even treating them as actualizing agents plays into the narrative. I view them as mere tools in the eternal war of ideologies. Not reason, but power decides ideology.

This is the real world:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Blood_River

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Rorke%27s_Drift

As to what differing ideological factions represent, allign, and oppose; I have a general map of reality. But they are all constantly morphing, conquering, merging, and re-emering. The technological drift has speed up and complicated the process, heightend awarness becomes required in making informed decisions. Dissecting propaganda becomes key in this; as the essence sometimes reveals its true form.

Speed in which shifts can take place:





Not the actual presented conflicts; they have always been in touch with reality, it has always been too close, always knocking on the door to ever diverge. Rather the narrative set forth. I view it all outside of the manifested form. For the clearer view of reality.
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PostSubject: Re: Advertisements, Commercials & Propaganda Tue Feb 18, 2014 5:00 am

Peroni - Italy, errrrrh, yes we have an understanding, I love Italian Beer.



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PostSubject: Re: Advertisements, Commercials & Propaganda Tue Feb 18, 2014 5:40 pm

Apaosha, What's the feeling toward immigrants(especially African) in Ireland compared to England (are they as accommodating?) I remember reading awhile ago that Italy and Ireland were the two most xenophobic countries in Europe. The common argument for pro-immigration in Ireland is that since the Irish have historically emigrated to other countries they should be more understanding of the plight of new immigrants.
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PostSubject: Re: Advertisements, Commercials & Propaganda Tue Feb 18, 2014 7:20 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCk_wUMdS6w

Italian men....... mama's boys, casanovas, possessive, beautiful.  

Italian women... beautiful, like to talk, cherish motherhood, eat a lot. Stand at end of dinner table enjoying the spectacle of her menfolk devouring her food.

There is no denying, Italy is a beautiful country.
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PostSubject: Re: Advertisements, Commercials & Propaganda Tue Feb 18, 2014 10:20 pm

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Apaosha, What's the feeling toward immigrants(especially African) in Ireland compared to England (are they as accommodating?) I remember reading awhile ago that Italy and Ireland were the two most xenophobic countries in Europe. The common argument for pro-immigration in Ireland is that since the Irish have historically emigrated to other countries they should be more understanding of the plight of new immigrants.

The mainstream follows the prevailing narrative, same as everywhere else. This is typical: http://www.politics.ie/forum/

I remember how well they took to catholicism during the Dark Ages. That spirit remains, the details are different.

However, at this point, it's becoming personal and not something that one sees on television, or "out there", at a distance. Which produces it's own effect and consequences, let's say.

IRA.

The country is divided. Superficially, the media presents a multicultural, tolerant utopia, the usual nonsense, but underneath is the memory of 800 years of british rule and the refusal to submit to foreigners, no matter the consequences.

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PostSubject: Re: Advertisements, Commercials & Propaganda Fri Feb 21, 2014 7:49 pm



An example of materialism and greed blurring the distinctions between races. As long as the masses are kept inebriated by the allure of money and nice things, race becomes irrelevant because all can participate equally in avarice, it becomes a multicultural benefit. Let the I Phone bring forth the New World Order.
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PostSubject: Re: Advertisements, Commercials & Propaganda Tue Feb 25, 2014 4:01 pm


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PostSubject: Re: Advertisements, Commercials & Propaganda Sun Mar 02, 2014 6:46 am

Do you want vibrators, fisting gear, dress up like a giant vagina in front of children?
You get it all for free, it is all inslucive in the standard package of sexual education in the U.S of A.
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PostSubject: Re: Advertisements, Commercials & Propaganda Sun Mar 02, 2014 9:12 am

The worst thing those skinny-fat bastards have ever undergone in their ''oh so oppressed'' lives,
was dropping a by Whites payed welfare ipad in their toilet, in a house built and payed by Whites.

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PostSubject: Re: Advertisements, Commercials & Propaganda Sun Mar 02, 2014 9:22 am

Funny.

A struggle over who is the bigger victim.


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PostSubject: Re: Advertisements, Commercials & Propaganda Sun Mar 02, 2014 11:26 am

There's a lot of things going on in that video and it sums up the present situation pretty well.

I'm not entirely sure whether the logic is internally consistent, but as I understand it they are saying that whites are pretending to be victims because they are systemically prevented from forming whites-only exclusive groups.
This is apparently not discrimination because whites are the "baseline" to which all compare themselves and attempt to imitate. Whites cannot therefore claim victim status like the two little turds in the video.

This also offers any listening white a flattering perspective in that the claim is made that this culture is still a white culture in a white society and that it is the white's unique duty to uplift the self-admitted lesser races.... which in not so many words is what these two are presenting themselves as.

So, translated this means: whites cannot have their own groups, clubs, societies but must instead work for the betterment of other races.... who in their position as holding unique rights to victim status are able to deny the former and demand the latter.

It's a rather unique situation in the modern world that a victim, so-called, is in a position of power over an oppressor, so-called. An inversion, a reversal. Guilt and pity are powerful weapons.

It's a very emotional presentation. Very frenzied. The crowd senses this and gets in on it towards the end.

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PostSubject: Re: Advertisements, Commercials & Propaganda Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:02 pm

Watching that made me angry. A genuine representation of decay.
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PostSubject: Re: Advertisements, Commercials & Propaganda Sun Mar 02, 2014 9:08 pm

Saw this advertised on a billboard. Simply Adl.org/imagine

The comments are, of course, sickening. This organization is so shady too.


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PostSubject: Re: Advertisements, Commercials & Propaganda Sun Mar 02, 2014 9:18 pm

Very Happy 
White-Guilt commercial



I bet this makes you want to smash your head through a wall, Perpetualburn.
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PostSubject: Re: Advertisements, Commercials & Propaganda Sun Mar 02, 2014 10:00 pm

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Well, they got one thing right. "Your inheritance is worth more than you can imagine."

They're inherently saying whites cannot have a distinct place on the victim totem pole, but need to join them as "underdogs" for the fight for equality in an unfair "system" if they are to have any hope in "moving forward." You don't have to be "left out" or "unimportant" anymore. They mock whites in the beginning for wanting victim status, educate whites on what a victim is, then offer them a place beside them to fight the "rigged" system. Oh, and let's not forget the allusion to white frat boys as rapists... I guess an audience can even cheer for that now.

I think a big part of all this propaganda is to keep the perception of differences as simple and accessible as possible, while constantly inserting controversial sexual elements to keep people's attention fixed...the simple play on differences in a highly charged emotional environment.

Of course, when non-whites start getting uppity and angry about anything, I think it sets something off very deep in whites, like they feel a threat but can't articulate it.

In other news, "12 Years a Slave" is going to be taught in high schools now. Good news if you like to watch Michael Fassbender act in highly charged sexual roles I guess. You have a very visceral movie, almost torture porn, showing black slaves being beaten and raped, all in contrast to Michael Fassbender representing(very well) a white man( a slave owner so no power restrictions) with an uncontrollable lust for violence and sex.
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PostSubject: Re: Advertisements, Commercials & Propaganda Sun Mar 02, 2014 10:26 pm

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I bet this makes you want to smash your head through a wall, Perpetualburn.

Perhaps one day I'll have the serenity of Primal Rage...You set such a great example of "containing" yourself.

In the video you posted, they say they're "privileged" because society was set up for them...but didn't whites set up society? The hard won fruits of historical struggles becomes an arbitrary "privilege" that needs to be abolished. It becomes easier to manipulate guilt when the word "privilege" is confounded with the past. Privilege is unfair, history is unfair. What sort of "monster" then would defend this "privilege"(past).
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PostSubject: Re: Advertisements, Commercials & Propaganda Mon Mar 10, 2014 9:12 am

Marketing is communication. I like informative commercials.




Eat your fruits. Pulp is good for you. It works like a lubricate.

And before you invest your hard earned money in a new shiny Squatty Potty, you can always use 2 plastic buckets.
It works. Instant gratification at its finest.

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PostSubject: Re: Advertisements, Commercials & Propaganda Tue Mar 11, 2014 12:09 am

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The worst thing those skinny-fat bastards have ever undergone in their ''oh so oppressed'' lives,
was dropping a by Whites payed welfare ipad in their toilet, in a house built and payed by Whites.



I had to stop watching that video right away; it was extremely annoying. An archetypal effeminate, beta-male fag and a lardy feminist/liberal bitch. I'm not even a white nationalist, but this made me want to take a chainsaw to both of them.
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PostSubject: Re: Advertisements, Commercials & Propaganda Sun Mar 23, 2014 9:32 am

2:39 ''Come on black boy, black girl, black community, black world; black power, black pride..''


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihD_wH-IoRU

Wiggers/White douches with their sympathy for negroids, unwanted hypocricy.


past-less creatures gathering in a ''safe space''. Interesting to observe their behavior.
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PostSubject: Re: Advertisements, Commercials & Propaganda Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:46 pm

A racial diverse bunch of homosexuals, lesbians, transgenders, fatherless boys and overall insecure creatures - Americans, speaking their ''poetry''.



It is interesting to observe what they ''think'', starting from the 8th minute - a fat transgender girl speaking her mind how she is more masculine than actual men;
how conquering drug addiction is more heroic than the scars of your past - warfare ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkoy8nJsz4I ).

From 14:00, a Chinese lesbian talking about how attraction towards ''boyish'' and ''girly'' colours/things are merely social constructs (Disproved: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiJVJ5QRRUE )

Minute 23:15 , a White-beta male with too much guilt to bear: ''Native Americans'', ''bleach skins white'', ''KuKuxKlan'', ''burning crosses'', ''race-based vision'', ''slave songs'', ''beneath our skin'',
''the blood and flesh that lies within will dismiss the myth that more than one race exists, for we are the only race, we are the human race'' etc., etc., and more of such crap.

Minute 33:00 , a homosexual (very diverse) negro..

Minute 36:30 , a fat negress telling us that her fatness (she refers it as ''curves'') is not her fault, we should accept her as she is (unhealthy).

Minute 40:30 , White girl got abused by boyfriend; scars, tears from memories, blah blah.

Minute 45:40 , a transgender male (or girl..?)

1:06:50 ; The only person i can partially agree with; about the portrayel of ''manhood'' - hyper masculinity and the image of the alpha male on the media;
''bringing home that bacon and frying the bacon and eating the bacon and talking about eating the bacon''

It all ends with some negro dances at 1:14:00 ..
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PostSubject: Re: Advertisements, Commercials & Propaganda Tue Apr 15, 2014 9:34 pm

Carlin tearing...



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PostSubject: Re: Advertisements, Commercials & Propaganda Sun Apr 20, 2014 3:57 am

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Does Traditional College Debate Reinforce White Privilege?

Minority participants aren't just debating resolutions—they're challenging the terms of the debate itself.


It used to be that if you went to a college-level debate tournament, the students you’d see would be bookish future lawyers from elite universities, most of them white. In matching navy blazers, they’d recite academic arguments for and against various government policies. It was tame, predictable, and, frankly, boring.

No more.

These days, an increasingly diverse group of participants has transformed debate competitions, mounting challenges to traditional form and content by incorporating personal experience, performance, and radical politics. These “alternative-style” debaters have achieved success, too, taking top honors at national collegiate tournaments over the past few years.

But this transformation has also sparked a difficult, often painful controversy for a community that prides itself on handling volatile topics.  

On March 24, 2014 at the Cross Examination Debate Association (CEDA) Championships at Indiana University, two Towson University students, Ameena Ruffin and Korey Johnson, became the first African-American women to win a national college debate tournament, for which the resolution asked whether the U.S. president’s war powers should be restricted. Rather than address the resolution straight on, Ruffin and Johnson, along with other teams of African-Americans, attacked its premise. The more pressing issue, they argued, is how the U.S. government is at war with poor black communities.

In the final round, Ruffin and Johnson squared off against Rashid Campbell and George Lee from the University of Oklahoma, two highly accomplished African-American debaters with distinctive dreadlocks and dashikis. Over four hours, the two teams engaged in a heated discussion of concepts like “nigga authenticity” and performed hip-hop and spoken-word poetry in the traditional timed format. At one point during Lee’s rebuttal, the clock ran out but he refused to yield the floor. “Fuck the time!” he yelled. His partner Campbell, who won the top speaker award at the National Debate Tournament two weeks later, had been unfairly targeted by the police at the debate venue just days before, and cited this personal trauma as evidence for his case against the government’s treatment of poor African-Americans.

This year wasn't the first time this had happened. In the 2013 championship, two men from Emporia State University, Ryan Walsh and Elijah Smith, employed a similar style and became the first African-Americans to win two national debate tournaments. Many of their arguments, based on personal memoir and rap music, completely ignored the stated resolution, and instead asserted that the framework of collegiate debate has historically privileged straight, white, middle-class students.

Tournament participants from all backgrounds say they have found some of these debate strategies offensive. Even so, the new style has received mainstream acceptance, sympathy, and awards.

Joe Leeson Schatz, Director of Speech and Debate at Binghamton University, is encouraged by the changes in debate style and community. “Finally, there’s a recognition in the academic space that the way argument has taken place in the past privileges certain types of people over others,” he said. “Arguments don’t necessarily have to be backed up by professors or written papers. They can come from lived experience.”

But other teams who have prepared for a traditional policy debate are frustrated when they encounter a meta-debate, or an alternative stylistic approach in competition. These teams say that the pedagogical goals of policy debate are not being met—and are even being undermined. Aaron Hardy, who coaches debate at Northwestern University, is concerned about where the field is headed. “We end up … with a large percentage of debates being devoted to arguing about the rules, rather than anything substantive,” he wrote on a CEDA message board last fall.

Indeed, to prevail using the new approach, students don’t necessarily have to develop high-level research skills or marshal evidence from published scholarship. They also might not need to have the intellectual acuity required for arguing both sides of a resolution. These skills—together with a non-confrontational presentation style—are considered crucial for success in fields like law and business.

Hardy and others are also disappointed with what they perceive as a lack of civility and decorum at recent competitions, and believe that the alternative-style debaters have contributed to this environment. “Judges have been very angry, coaches have screamed and yelled. People have given profanity-laced tirades, thrown furniture, and both sides of the ideological divide have used racial slurs,” he said.

To counter this trend, Hardy and his allies want to create a “policy only” space in which traditional standards for debate will be enforced. However, this is nearly impossible to do within the two major debate associations, CEDA and the National Debate Tournament (NDT), as they are governed by participants and have few conduct enforcement mechanisms. For instance, while CEDA and NDT’s institutional anti-harassment policy would normally prohibit the term “nigga” as it was used at the recent Indiana University tournament finals, none of the judges penalized the competitors that used it. In fact, those debaters took home prizes.

14 schools expressed interest in sending debaters to Hardy’s proposed alternative tournament, scheduled to occur last month. But after word got out that a group of mostly white teams from elite universities were trying to form their own league, Hardy and his supporters were widely attacked on Facebook and other online forums. Ultimately the competition didn’t happen, purportedly because of logistical issues with the hotel venue. Nonetheless, Hardy wrote in an email that a “toxic climate” has precluded even “strong supporters of ‘policy debate’ from “publicly attach[ing] their name to anything that might get them called racist or worse.”

Korey Johnson, the reigning CEDA champion from Towson University, was one of the students who took offense to the alternative tournament. “Separating debate is a bad move,” she said. “With the increase in minority participation came a range of different types of argument and perspectives, not just from the people who are in debate, but the kind of scholarship we bring in.” Her debate partner Ameena Ruffin agreed: “For them to tell us that we can’t bring our personal experience, it would literally be impossible. Not just for black people—it is true of everyone. We are always biased by who we are in any argument.”

Liberal law professors have been making this point for decades. “Various procedures—regardless of whether we're talking about debate formats or law—have the ability to hide the subjective experiences that shape these seemingly ‘objective’ and ‘rational’ rules,” said UC Hastings Law School professor Osagie Obasogie, who teaches critical race theory. “This is the power of racial subordination: making the viewpoint of the dominant group seem like the only true reality.”

Hardy disagrees. “Having minimal rules is not something that reflects a middle-class white bias,” he said. “I think it is wildly reductionist to say that black people can’t understand debate unless there is rap in it—it sells short their potential.” He said he is committed to increasing economic and racial diversity in debate and has set up a nonprofit organization to fundraise for minority scholarships.

According to Joe Leeson Schatz, one of the unstated reasons for trying to set up policy-only debates is that once-dominant debate teams from colleges like Harvard and Northwestern are no longer winning the national competitions. “It is now much easier for smaller programs to be successful,” he said. “You don’t have to be from a high budget program; all you need to win is just a couple of smart students.” Schatz believes that the changes in college debate are widening the playing field and attracting more students from all backgrounds.

Paul Mabrey, a communications lecturer at James Madison University and CEDA vice president, is organizing a conference for this coming June that will address the college debate diversity crisis. “The debate community is broken,” he declared, “but there is nothing wrong with that. We talk about a post-racial America, but we shouldn’t elide our real differences, we should talk about how to work across and work with these differences.”

One thing is clear: In a community accustomed to hashing out every possible argument, this debate will continue. The uncontested benefit of the debate format is that everyone receives equal time to speak, something that drew many minority students to debate in the first place, said Korey Johnson. “No matter how people feel about my argument, they have to listen to me for all of my speeches, everything I have to say, they can’t make me stop speaking,” she said.

http://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2014/04/does-traditional-college-debate-reinforce-white-privilege/360746/



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PostSubject: Re: Advertisements, Commercials & Propaganda Sun Apr 20, 2014 5:21 am

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For instance, while CEDA and NDT’s institutional anti-harassment policy would normally prohibit the term “nigga” as it was used at the recent Indiana University tournament finals, none of the judges penalized the competitors that used it. In fact, those debaters took home prizes.

Ha ha... brilliant.

Give them enough rope, sit back and watch.


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PostSubject: Re: Advertisements, Commercials & Propaganda Mon Apr 21, 2014 12:29 pm

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The enduring enchantment with heroism of the disadvantaged to overcome against all odds. The reiteration of the Jewish parasitism, in this case, by attempting to undermine the "evil" Nazis and to reinforce the secular humanist ethos. I have no doubt this movie depicts many scenes with hordes of Jews filing into concentration camp boxcars.
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