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PostSubject: Futurism Futurism EmptyMon Aug 27, 2018 4:58 pm

Thread dedicated to exploring theoretical future plausible outcomes, assuming we survive our infant and our presently being entered adolescent stage.

Meta-Humanity.

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PostSubject: Dyson Sphere Futurism EmptyMon Aug 27, 2018 5:02 pm



Dyson sphere or Dyson Swarm
A source of energy that takes us to stage-2, or entering full maturity.

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PostSubject: Kugelblitz Futurism EmptyMon Aug 27, 2018 5:05 pm


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PostSubject: Re: Futurism Futurism EmptyMon Aug 27, 2018 5:15 pm



No absolutes....only in theory, in the mind as idea(l)...only externalized as art, including language, indicating a relationship, a fact, not an absolute defined as 'immutable, indivisible, whole....one...god'.

Existence = dynamic, (inter)activity, or change, so absolute stillness is the definition of non-existence.
The idea(l) refers to what cannot exist, other than as a concept, an ambiguous abstraction the brain can store because the brain deals with approximations, the simplification/generalization, or interpretation of world. An idea need not be lucid, nor clear.....in fact its validity is the measurement of how clear, and how many references it has to the objective world - a matter of degree.
This makes it useful to degenerates who want to take advantage of ambiguity, the theoretical anti-natural, renamed 'supernatural', to manufacture idealistic theories that offer a detachment and an escape, placing the evidence in some 'beyond', or 'internal' realm (obscurantism)...in other words occult, and therefore ti can claim anything, evaluating its own validity by the effect ti has on gullible, needy, simple minds.

What is this detachment?
It is a detachment from past, from precedent, which is how I define 'nature'.
Nature = sum of all past nurturing, when dealing with life....or, on a grander scale, sum of all past (inter)activities, manifesting as presence, as the so called 'present' which is dynamic and the only way a life has free-will.....or the ability to choose from the available options. Will ti be a path-of-more-resistance, or the more accessible, path-of-least-resistance.
The choice will be added to all other (inter)actions, to produce the next set of available options.
The organism's choices determine its fate....and its choices are determined by its past, and its mind/body power, how many options it can perceive, from the given circumstances, and how able it is to make that choice - we call this will.

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PostSubject: Meta-Humanity Futurism EmptyMon Aug 27, 2018 5:46 pm

The mind can imagine a huge amount of futures, each with its own degree of plausibility.
How can we measure a theory's plausibility or how probable it is, in relation to the possible?

The only way we can evaluate probability is not only by juxtaposing a theory, a noetic construct, to the ongoing empirical, the aesthetically accessible real, but by also integrating into our measurements the past...precedent.
The two expose patterns.
Patterns unfold, in time, and may be simple  requiring a few sequences to be recognized, or more complex, taking years or decades to fully unfold.....this is why memory is so important to genius.
Not selective memory, but clear, honest, brutal, we may call it, recollection.
Past + Present = Future
The additional component of complexity, of the unknown, makes the formula ongoing and adaptive. Each new discovery adjusting the projection into the future.  
We can include randomness (chaos) now to indicate that there can never be absolute certainty, but we can approach it, like we can approach the idea(l) without attaining it.

This is why there is no probability for absolute certainty, but always relative confidence, given precedent - there is no God with omniscience and omnipotence.

We judge a projection, into the future, by the degree of agreement it has with precedent, and the ongoing present, that continuously adds to it.
how far ahead we are attempting to project our predictive theories determines the quantity and quality of precedent, and awareness of details in the present, we must offer to justify our convictions.
Quantity means amount of data, stored in memory.
Quality means how harmonious the data is integrated into cohesive models.
Awareness means how many details, phenomena, the mind can perceive,  and integrate, process, into mental models that remain cohesive and non-contradictory, and in agreement with precedent.

All contradictions must be explained, integrating them as the exception that proves the rule, or set aside as an indication of uncertainty. The accumulation of uncertainty, skepticism, may force the abandonment of the theory - a high level of intellectual integrity is required; a vicious, self-punishing honesty, we call nobility of spirit.
Something very rare.
Th brain is an organ evolved to preserve the organism and so ego and emotions, will take over, and the manimal will emerge from behind the veil of 'human' to lead ti towards self-flattering, self-serving excuses.

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PostSubject: Metaverse Futurism EmptyMon Aug 27, 2018 6:04 pm

A post-modern's wet-dream....Metaverse.
The Matrix is born.



Unfortunately, for them, hierarchies, and conflicts will not cease, and reality will not be escaped. The meta-verse, will be within the cosmos, and would only maintain itself by understanding its environment and preserving itself in relation to it.
Identity will not be escaped....because the past may be severed, and forgotten, but it does not go away?

What will this alternate 'reality' be made of?
Data, code....language.
A linguistic universe....this time truly God is word, and word is God.

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PostSubject: Re: Futurism Futurism EmptyMon Aug 27, 2018 6:41 pm

Funny, they imagine their minds to be these perfect beautiful things and their bodies to be (potentially) dysfunctional. Listening to them I get the impression their body functions are not that bad compared to their mental state.
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PostSubject: Re: Futurism Futurism EmptyMon Aug 27, 2018 6:58 pm

It's always the case with these Moderns.
They cannot ignore the body's flaws, so they cannot idealize it, but they can the brain's imperfections, because ti is hidden within the skull and ti only exposes itself as mind....pretentiously, incompletely, vaguely.
Like you said, it's most often the case that these types are more perfect physically than they are mentally, and this is why they idealize the mind, and dream of futures where it can be uploaded and the ephemerally beautiful body left behind---the past forgotten.
The mind can declare itself as being whatever, and whenever, and whomever, it wants.
It's the dead Abrahamic God reborn as human mind.

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PostSubject: Re: Futurism Futurism EmptyTue Aug 28, 2018 7:40 am

Virtual reality is already becoming the replacement of Abrahamism as the opiate of the masses.
Social behaviour begins the process of separating the private man (personae), from the public face (character/caricature), essential to coexistence, increasing in pretentiousness as societies increase in numbers and become heterogeneous.
Technologies offer an artificial escape, and a upgrade from using make-up, and garments, to play an social idea(l), imitating pop-icons who offer behavioural examples of how one ought to think and act.
Virtual reality will separate those who act as 'batteries' for the system (Matrix), earning their 'right' to escape into their preferred environment and pretend to live a double-life, from those who prefer to live within reality, no matter how brutally and unflattering it is.
The first will be like children before the second, though within their own private virtual realities they pretend to be gods, great thinkers and heroes.
The grandiosity of the avatar, within the ideal virtual, will inversely reflect the truth, within the indifferent real.

The 'herd', or the new slave class, will be corralled within technological farmlands.
Totally oblivious and content, each living in their own subjective, alternative world, atrophying in the real, as they become gods in the virtual.

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PostSubject: Re: Futurism Futurism EmptyWed Aug 29, 2018 7:15 am

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They cannot ignore the body's flaws, so they cannot idealize it, but they can the brain's imperfections, because ti is hidden within the skull and ti only exposes itself as mind....pretentiously, incompletely, vaguely.
Like you said, it's most often the case that these types are more perfect physically than they are mentally, and this is why they idealize the mind, and dream of futures where it can be uploaded and the ephemerally beautiful body left behind---the past forgotten.

Don't get me wrong, as a whole I think they would be right to want to kill themselves, lol.
-But that's not what such entities do, not directly anyway.
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PostSubject: Re: Futurism Futurism EmptyWed Aug 29, 2018 7:21 am

Uncontrolled reproduction has produced sickness of mind/body.
One more reason why I am not entirely negative about this coming Dark Age and the purging that will occur.
Like during the Ice Age, or during the Black Plague, it will be a genetic cleansing.

We see around us seemingly fit, healthy, bodies, with a sick, degenerate mind.
Europeans begging to become extinct, to be assimilated and to vanish, exposing self-hatred, psychosis....product of the Abrahamic/Marxist legacy.
Zombies.

I don't use the term 'white', but European. White is an attempt to include into the European family Asiatic tribes, by reducing race to a skin colour.

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PostSubject: Re: Futurism Futurism EmptyThu May 23, 2019 11:13 pm

What will blow your mind is that with the new Quantum computers they are making, they will be able to simulate entire universes. What could take 100 years for a supercomputer to compute, a quantum computer can do nearly instantly.

Here is the thing: We are already inside a Virtual Reality. Silicon Valley needs to never make a virtual reality that can generate its own bb. Otherwise, then there will be yet another Virtual Reality, creating yet another, and so forth.

All of us are simulated lifeforms created by the past reality, most likely. And the simulated NPCs at silicon valley are going to mindlessly create yet another new reality. I do not think this is good. I think we need to go backwards back to the original reality we came from. This world, you and me, etc. is most likely yet another simulated reality.

Funny thing is, our minds could already be uploaded, and not know it. Uploading it once more, into another simulation within a simulation, seems like a possible bad idea.
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