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PostSubject: Re: Deconstructing Eve Deconstructing Eve - Page 2 EmptyFri Aug 02, 2013 4:57 pm

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With a man there's always an understanding as to who is on top.  

That's what makes it so exciting.

It can be turned into a feisty fight through the versatile component of a relationship between two men. So the submission and dominance can be shared and enjoyed mutually.

If that's something that doesn't appeal to you, then there are specific categories you can place yourself in relative to your preferred position.

Placing yourself in either the dom assertive role or the passive role. None of this necessarily refers to sexual behaviour.

If a man is more emotional, affectionate and seeks comfort within another man he would most likely place himself in the passive role.

If a man is more rational, strict and has a leader nature, then the assertive role appeals to him more.

Then you can be partners or lovers and enjoy each other's company. Go out together, have a coffee together, go to the cinema together and take holidays together.

I personally find this euphoric.
I think I'm ill
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Women are disgusted by their own nature, they know what they are and they cannot control it. They seek to gain power without any real solid objective, she simply continuously consumes. The female state is a slutty state. She wants to be dominated, the more dominant she is the more dominated she wants to be.

Spoken like the nasty little queen that you are.
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PostSubject: Re: Deconstructing Eve Deconstructing Eve - Page 2 EmptySat Aug 03, 2013 10:52 pm

The reason why lesbians are so outlandish, and far less socially effective, and entertaining than male homosexuals is due, in part, to the nature of men.
The masculine spirit is more reserved, and the male form is made for that self-possessed control.
With a female form it looks strained.
The other part is due to the problems associated with ascent and descent – to pretend to be less intelligent is easier than pretending to be more intelligent; to go downward requires less energy than to go upwards.
To revert to what is lower is easier than to pretend that you are what is above you, by simply putting on the outer symbolism, and the pretenses, within a socioeconomic context.
Therefore lesbian mannerisms and behaviors are more out of sorts.  

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More masculine lesbians are in a socially inferior position within western feminized systems.
They inconveniently identify with a diminishing sexual specialization in a world that prefers and nurtures feminine attributes, and ways of thinking.
The most crucial aspect of male compared to female homosexuality, or gays compared to lesbians, is that of psychology and how females are really adolescent males in spirit.
Retarding development to stay in a more adolescent state is easier than growing above it, and so for lesbians the hyper-masculine displays appear more contrived when compared to the lurid, but more honest, gay-pride hyperboles.
Ergo we have this cult of youth, and this obsession with remaining young or acting young.
Disrespect and fear of age, and growing old, is expressed by how invisible older people are in modern western cultures.

Feminization and adolescence go hand in hand.
For a man to remain infantile is not difficult in this day and age.
He is expected to do just that.
Males are expected to be homosexual, or asexual, or simply sexual non-participants – infantile.

Lesbians and gays meet somewhere in a murky middle: the gay man is proud of being a stunted male, and the lesbian feels ashamed of it, and tries to pretend that she is fully male.
In the hormonal chaos of bodies and minds being out of harmony, they find their place within the uniformity of feminization.
Both are part of feminization and how maleness has now become a sexual organ and a hypocrisy; a social construction.

The openness to sexuality is part of our sexually dissatisfied and confused state.
Like teenagers we are completely taken over by sex and relationships.
Our culture is one of total disclosure.
Reality shows, pornography, entertainment in general, leaves nothing to the imagination, nothing for the private; all is public.
But none of it is real. All of it is teased, corrected, inflated, blown out of proportions, idealized, and romanticized.
You see, the gay man fits in with all this bullshit, the lesbian sits on the side, looking a bit uncomfortable.
 

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The male homosexual has nothing to hide, because once he’s admitted to being penetrated, or that he likes being penetrated, there is very little ego, shame, pride, left to preserve.
The most intimate part of him is already known from his identification with a sexual practice that represents submission and giving-in to power.
He feels proud of being used, and unlike the female, there is nothing to come of it as recompense, except that sensation of belonging to an otherness that feels so wonderful to the feminine spirit.  
In this world of public displays, homosexual flamboyance is part of the normality of being teenagers forever: experimenting, dressing-up, flaunting, puffing-up, being extroverted and spontaneously boyish.
The male homosexual finds his place in this culture of shameless displays.    

For lesbians thing are different.
Males are naturally more closed, emotionally more private, but, for a female to rise-up to the level of a biological male, who has the advantage of hormonal balances, is a difficult task, to say the least – particularly when the culture is making the type extinct and is redefining masculinity as something that only differs slightly from femininity – the difference is dismissed as primitive, or as a social construct.
The only thing left for the female who feels more masculine is to put on the attire, practice the walk, the mannerisms, and the hair styles, of masculinity and how it is symbolized in modern western societies – that and attaining that position of power from where she can wear the mantle of masculinity, backed-up by an entire institution.
The so-called ‘strong female, intimidating men left and right.
A lesbian’s wet-dream.  
Lesbianism becomes a gender...in a world that only believes in socially constructed types.
But, the feminine is never fully let go of, and so you always get this mixture between the two which doesn't fully convince.
Same applies for the gay man, but here the metrosexual, up-to-date, modern, urbanite, career oriented, upwardly mobile, male is part of the heterosexual social ideal; worshipped amongst the young, and the homosexual, alike, with extravagance and style.


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For lesbians feminization plays into the ploy of pretending to be male.
The lesbian is, herself, a stunted male, so she can only put on the outer appearance of masculinity, trying to exaggerate it, while still thinking as a more butch female.
This is, from the reverse angle, what is expected of heterosexual males: to appear male, while thinking as a female.

This plays into modern social beliefs.
Appearances do not matter, according to this belief system, therefore, the superficiality can be pretended by anyone; the materials required are provided by a materialistic economic system where all values have been reduced to the abstraction of money.
Money can buy anything, including sexual identity.

What matters is what is "on the inside", in other words, with what the particular mind identifies - the meme, not the gene; the noumenon, not the phenomenon.
It does not matter how you act - thinking being an activity - but what words you use to identify your self with, and what words you use to explain yourself to others.
How and why this identification comes about and is established, in homosexual females, is particular to every individual, but as with homosexual males some hormonal imbalance during gestation and during the early years of weening, should be considered as a starting point for explaining how these sexual divergences come about.

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Because sex has been lowered to the expression of emotional connectivity and has no other survival importance, and because appearance can so easily be manipulated by the medical fields, and because words or the code, is more important than the deed, the action, the playfulness of adolescence is permitted to play at being whatever it likes.
Dress-up, the favorite game for children, is now a social standard, a "right" for self-expression.

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PostSubject: Re: Deconstructing Eve Deconstructing Eve - Page 2 EmptySun Aug 04, 2013 6:08 pm

Mmmmmm, I love it when a typical, common, female uses those methods.
It reminds me about how right I am.

I do not only fear love, my sweet, I am also terrified of homosexuals.

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Satyr chose to detach himself emotionally when discussing homosexuality, choosing to explain that understanding rationally. She mistakenly thought he was going to use the opportunity to flex his strength and give himself a masculine ego boost in the form of comparing, degrading and attacking me.

Women love this. Attempting to take his side by referring to him as a "real man" at first, she will start to stroke his ego and encourage him, testing the extents she can push, an extension of her own bullying through the human male. A form of control in passive form using the femininity pass by the powerful man because she is a biological female. This is how women derive their value and gain.

A type of fearful submission and an exciting secure belonging will take place at the expense of abusing the homosexual, the less masculine. This reassures her of his power, his strength, ability and the maintained position. An insight that brings confidence to her association with the male.

Upon realising he chose not to do so, blocking her association and the potential to appeal to masculine power rendering her with the feeling of helplessness and abandonment. Not too far from the abused homosexual, this is why the focus shifted completely off me..I'm out of sight to be used, yet so close.

She has no partners now, much like her real life. Vulnerable. She will attempt to recruit in the exact same way, evidence by saying to perpetualburn

"your masculinity shines with a burning force"

Satyr now appears weak to her, if he's not on her side then he must be on my side, such simple thinking, failing to see that satyr doesn't take any sides. This is her use/refuse behaviour taking place.

She can't use this "weakness", encourage it or exploit it, because it's not really weak, it's only weak to her because she cannot have the edge over it by force of her feminine nature. No channel or direction.

She now wants to punish him from everything he is not, or not doing what he is expected or supposed to do in accordance with her parasitical exploitive nature.  The attacking will continue, a type of testing the water, wanting to dominant, but can't, eventually submitting in some form or another..

This cycle will continue.
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PostSubject: Re: Deconstructing Eve Deconstructing Eve - Page 2 EmptyTue Aug 13, 2013 10:40 am

Without wanting to be purposefully controversial, and without advocating advocating violence or violent behavior, some thoughts on rape:


In a culture that caters to female needs, rape is the worst thing for a female to suffer – at least according to modern moral standards.
The violent aspect aside, a female is naturally made to be sexually penetrated, but in this case the unwanted element is a contradiction to her sexual power.
This is the only psychologically traumatic aspect of rape.
In this act alone a male usurps social conventions, and reminds all that force is still a part of nature; a male option practiced in the wild as a way of ensuring genetic success.
Rape is not a human social phenomenon. It is a natural phenomenon.
It is this male option that forces females to seek refuge within a strong male’s protective authority, and it is why human females have evolved a discreet fertility cycle, so as to still maintain control over her fertility.
Rape is traumatic to women because it reminds them that the male has also adopted counter-measures in response to those that natural selection had produced in her, and it reminds her that sexual power is only effective within environments where force is restricted, and her choices are guaranteed by a higher authority.
Gender equality, or the parity of sexes, is only possible within social constructs that intervene upon natural processes.
The opposite of what is considered fact, in our time: not that gender is a social construct, but that the elimination of gender as the socioeconomic, and cultural, application of sexual specialization is what is socially constructed.

So, while men also get raped and the experience should be more traumatic for them, because they are not made to be penetrated and this goes against their masculine nature and their sexual role, women still get the bulk of institutional comforting, as if the experience is far more intrusive for them, than it is for a male.
Exaggerating the effects of rape upon the female’s mental stability feeds into the culture of victimhood, and it is meant to support the illusion that men and women are the same by restricting male sexual advantages, and the options they offer.

and her choices are guaranteed by a higher authority.
So, while men also get raped and the experience should be more traumatic for them, because they are not made to be penetrated and this goes against their masculine nature and their sexual role, women still get the bulk of institutional comforting, as if the experience is far more intrusive for them, than it is for a male.

Side-note about incarceration, as it relates to rape.

The price for not being sufficiently feminized using indoctrination, assimilation, and so on, is incarceration.
This is rehabilitation, or a severe form of education, where males still resisting systemic authority are placed in situations where emasculation will take on more brutal forms.
The male is not, merely, emasculated mentally, but now the physical becomes part of the rehabilitating upgrading of the methods.
The last vestiges of manhood are fucked out of the man, as it were.

Though prison environments are far more regimented and controlled, rape still persists in the prison system, and is more common than it is outside the prison system, or, at least, it has been up until recently.
It is so common that it has become a running joke.

Nobody dares laugh at the news of a women being raped.

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reasonvemotion wrote:
Mannequin/Satyr - bum buddies
“She wanted something else, something different, something more. Passion and romance, perhaps, or maybe quiet conversations in candlelit rooms, or perhaps something as simple as not being second."

― Nicholas Sparks, The Notebook

The heroine is not just a wowman, she is also a scorp... ; )

I wouldn't take it so personally... Surprised

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I found this..


It was narrated that ‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Abbaas said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “I was shown Hell and I have never seen anything more terrifying than it. And I saw that the majority of its people are women.” They said, “Why, O Messenger of Allaah?” He said, “Because of their ingratitude (kufr).” It was said, “Are they ungrateful to Allaah?” He said, “They are ungrateful to their companions (husbands) and ungrateful for good treatment. If you are kind to one of them for a lifetime then she sees one (undesirable) thing in you, she will say, ‘I have never had anything good from you.’” (Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 1052)

It was narrated that Jaabir ibn ‘Abd-Allaah said: “I attended Eid prayers with the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). He started with the prayer before the khutbah, with no adhaan or iqaamah. Then he stood up, leaning on Bilaal, speaking of fear of Allaah (taqwa) and urging us to obey Him. He preached to the people and reminded them. Then he went over to the women and preached to them and reminded them. Then he said, ‘Give in charity, for you are the majority of the fuel of Hell. A woman with dark cheeks stood up in the midst of the women and said, ‘Why is that, O Messenger of Allaah?’ He said, ‘Because you complain too much and are ungrateful to your husbands.’ Then they started to give their jewellery in charity, throwing their earrings and rings into Bilaal’s cloak.”

Haha, i thought it was quite funny Smile
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