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PostSubject: Physical Phenoms Physical Phenoms EmptyThu Oct 25, 2018 3:35 pm

We all know of the mental phenomes, or those of exceptional mental abilities, but how many appreciate the physical that exceed the norms to a degree that they seem monstrous.
I said, in another thread, that genius appears monstrous, incomprehensible, to a simpleton....but a physical specimen may not be incomprehensible but it can be monstrous.

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PostSubject: Re: Physical Phenoms Physical Phenoms EmptyTue Aug 27, 2019 8:06 pm

I'm not sure how healthy that is. And it's absurd when I hear that people feel "energized" after it. It's not energy, it's stress hormones produced by stimulating the adrenal glands, which tap into the energy (calorie) reserves you've stored by eating foods. Being in extreme cold actually saps more energy, obviously. Coffee is the same.

I consider overstimulating the adrenal glands like that stupid because if you ever found yourself in a situation where you actually needed these hormones for fight/flight, you'd be at a disadvantage. But of course in a society where weakness is protected anything goes, including drugs, alcohol, faggotry, feminism, trannyism... Even cutting off your limbs and making yourself blind is just another little quirk, which you could possibly even capitalize on.

couple of sv3rige videos on the subject that I remembered:








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PostSubject: Re: Physical Phenoms Physical Phenoms EmptyTue Aug 27, 2019 11:31 pm

Probably the first video of his that sounds like he doesn't know what he is talking about, "you can hardly breath", it doesn't really work like that, it doesn't really make it that hard to breath, it's just if you stay in way too long, how the temperature feels depends a lot how much water you throw in, I don't even know how long you have to stay in the Sauna to have hard time breathing or be out of breath, if so you are doing it wrong. You can do even just 15 min periods just to get a good feeling.  

I'm sure the heart problems are caused by alcohol combined with unhealthy food. He doesn't take into consideration the cold temperatures during the winter, when your bones are chilled 24/7 sometimes it feels very good to heat yourself up. I do think it often helps when you feel like you catch a cold.

Cold swimming might increase your immunity for some period of time since you can tolerate cold temperatures more, it takes a while to get used to winter each year, but after - 20/ -30 C , - 10-15 C doesn't feel that bad.
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PostSubject: Re: Physical Phenoms Physical Phenoms EmptyTue Aug 27, 2019 11:41 pm

It's just strange how all the delusional people get in front of the camera, I don't know if those guys are actors or not, they are all acting it's worse than it really is or they really are wimps or some city folks who have never been into a forest or seen snow, where do they find these people. I don't understand this, It's shocking that the dislike ratio is not over 50%, I can't get over how unremarkable all this was, why don't people laugh at this guy teaching some very basic life lessons, might as well said "clean your room" also. I'm sure a lot of it is true, but the way it's presented is ridiculous and this guy think he is some kind of guru, he definitely has some sort of psychosis going on

Even the nerdiest people I ever knew, who haven't done any sports in their lives would laugh at this so it boggles my mind that those guys at least look like they have exercised yet they are wimps
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PostSubject: Re: Physical Phenoms Physical Phenoms EmptySat Nov 16, 2019 7:48 pm



Forward to 1:06.18

A lesson on strength and weakness. Degrees in strength, stagnations in weakness, a Will to balance them into what determines the success of the individual. Like two chess grandmasters, both are equipped with the skills to defeat each other, but only one can muster that point of will to execute a move which gives them the edge over their adversary and secures a victory.

Two men of almost equal strength, one slightly taller weighing heavier (Brian Shaw), the other slightly shorter, weighing lessor (Hafthor Bjornsson), both share immensity of mass and strength, conditioning, stamina, but one overcomes the other by a difference in will, that aggregate force of energy channeled by one’s inner spirit into an act of power. Power is the center that few can access. We can notice the subtle differences in Hafthor’s mentality, his demeanor, his focus, and his seriousness, that Shaw simply did not have. That was the determining factor. Hafthor’s whole being was committed to lifting the weight, Shaw exhibited an ever so slight doubtfulness in himself, and ever so slight self-consciousness which stymied his performance. There can be no self involved in such extreme acts, the self must be relegated, only will, only surrendering to ones potential will be the deciding factor.



This is another example. Strength which has been untested, pitted against strength which has. Muscle mass only goes so far before something more must be developed, something deeply raw and purposeful.

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PostSubject: Re: Physical Phenoms Physical Phenoms EmptyThu May 27, 2021 7:15 pm

Definitely not a natty (unless worked out 20-30 years), people at that age get test easily from doctors over there


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PostSubject: Re: Physical Phenoms Physical Phenoms EmptyThu May 27, 2021 7:22 pm

one sloppy muscle up is my current long-term goal...
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PostSubject: Re: Physical Phenoms Physical Phenoms EmptyThu May 27, 2021 7:51 pm

NoMindInMyMind wrote:
one sloppy muscle up is my current long-term goal...

I haven't even tried it so I don't know where it feels

Everyone is not the same or built the same, but I wouldn't advice anyone doing bodyweight weight exercises unless they get more muscle, like if you do dips you can easily hurt your rotator cuffs if you do it wrong or you try it too hard (one gym I was in the dip machine was almost precisely set in a way that you can only hurt yourself and only do it wrong)

Even regular bench press is not for everyone, most people I've seen with decent bench number have had shoulder problems. Everyone should just find what works for them, it's easy to get carried away trying to impress others
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PostSubject: Re: Physical Phenoms Physical Phenoms EmptyThu May 27, 2021 7:59 pm

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Everyone is not the same or built the same, but I wouldn't advice anyone doing bodyweight weight exercises unless they get more muscle, like if you do dips you can easily hurt your rotator cuffs if you do it wrong or you try it too hard

Even regular bench press is not for everyone, most people I've seen with decent bench number have had shoulder problems. Everyone should just find what works for them


Yes. Individual body structure, like metabolism, should just follow what works for the individual. There is no other way, when it comes to exercise. For me, i can't do barbell squats, the hyper-tension that it places on my shoulder joints is murder. Either leg presses or dead lifts are my options. Flexibility is something im deficient in.
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PostSubject: Re: Physical Phenoms Physical Phenoms EmptyFri May 28, 2021 6:44 am

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Yes. Individual body structure, like metabolism, should just follow what works for the individual. There is no other way, when it comes to exercise. For me, i can't do barbell squats, the hyper-tension that it places on my shoulder joints is murder. Either leg presses or dead lifts are my options. Flexibility is something im deficient in.


If you want to try again consider widening/changing your grip/hand position on squats. +190cm people usually hurt their knees because they don't go low enough, the lower you go less strain it puts on your knees. I get a lot of strain on my wrists on squats, but I just warm-up better.

Nowadays I warm-up properly squats as well (before I didn't bother warm-up much since I was in a small gym and didn't want to wait), I even go just empty bar few reps, 40 kg few reps, 60 kg few reps, 70 kg few reps, 80 kg few reps etc, and then do my sets, just to make sure the position is correct and it doesn't put strain any wrong places.

@ 3:40 I do this myself if I get too much strain on my wrists, just use the thumb to measure a wider grip


...Also it shouldn't take much shoulder force to keep this bar on your back, some people do squats without hands. Front Squats are another option.

And if you are in a proper gym with a proper floor throwing the weight on the floor is a better option than putting strain on your shoulder, it seems a lot of people are afraid to do that even in my gym... I've done weightlifting olympic lifts, so it's constantly throwing on the floor
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PostSubject: Re: Physical Phenoms Physical Phenoms EmptyFri May 28, 2021 7:04 am

Calisthenic guys don't train their legs much, if you just stretch your legs, do abs/core and upperbody there's less weight to pull up, it's just different kind of showing off. I tried to search for different videos, but in general you don't see +80kg people doing calisthenics, unless it's just the muscle they gained during the years, starting with low body weight.

Like doing bench press, people have arms that are different length, and the trick to lifting a lot on bench is arching your back which I don't want to do.

One of the few rare 100kg athletes that are doing back flips (juji), he started backflips before he started gym, so it's probably a result of +20 years of training. Sure it's cool, but realistically it takes a lot of time and dedication and most people won't reach this level. + he is not a natty, I don't think there isn't any 100kg calisthenic guys that were natties.

Though he only does flips, I don't think he does other type of calisthenics anymore, so he is not an example of someone who doesn't train legs
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PostSubject: Re: Physical Phenoms Physical Phenoms EmptyFri May 28, 2021 12:28 pm

Jarno wrote:

If you want to try again consider widening/changing your grip/hand position on squats. +190cm people usually hurt their knees because they don't go low enough, the lower you go less strain it puts on your knees. I get a lot of strain on my wrists on squats, but I just warm-up better.

Nowadays I warm-up properly squats as well (before I didn't bother warm-up much since I was in a small gym and didn't want to wait), I even go just empty bar few reps, 40 kg few reps, 60 kg few reps, 70 kg few reps, 80 kg few reps etc, and then do my sets, just to make sure the position is correct and it doesn't put strain any wrong places.

@ 3:40 I do this myself if I get too much strain on my wrists, just use the thumb to measure a wider grip


...Also it shouldn't take much shoulder force to keep this bar on your back, some people do squats without hands. Front Squats are another option.

And if you are in a proper gym with a proper floor throwing the weight on the floor is a better option than putting strain on your shoulder, it seems a lot of people are afraid to do that even in my gym... I've done weightlifting olympic lifts, so it's constantly throwing on the floor

Thanks. The raised palm position he demonstrates at the end looks kind of funny to me, but i'll give it a shot.
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PostSubject: Re: Physical Phenoms Physical Phenoms EmptyFri May 28, 2021 5:09 pm

Mark Bell and this guy in the beginning has as wide grip as you can get, Mark doesn't squat very low, only what's required for monolift competition I assume
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PostSubject: Re: Physical Phenoms Physical Phenoms EmptyWed Jun 22, 2022 12:21 pm

Never seen Günter, Moeller or Aaron before, it's much harder for tall guys to build muscle/proportion than it's for manlets
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I am not a fan of this lifter and currently not interested in steroid lifting, but I am just shocked how people can say things like this with full confidence when they don't even know what they are talking about:


If you train shoulders for many years you can avoid inevitable shoulder problems by not letting the bar drop on your chest. And doing partials with heavy weight is good, these morons call anyone who doesn't do "full range of motion" egolifters, they can't even comprehend someone would do that on purpose.
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PostSubject: Re: Physical Phenoms Physical Phenoms EmptyWed Feb 14, 2024 8:25 am

Jarno wrote:
Calisthenic guys don't train their legs much, if you just stretch your legs, do abs/core and upperbody there's less weight to pull up, it's just different kind of showing off. I tried to search for different videos, but in general you don't see +80kg people doing calisthenics, unless it's just the muscle they gained during the years, starting with low body weight.

Like doing bench press, people have arms that are different length, and the trick to lifting a lot on bench is arching your back which I don't want to do.

One of the few rare 100kg athletes that are doing back flips (juji), he started backflips before he started gym, so it's probably a result of +20 years of training. Sure it's cool, but realistically it takes a lot of time and dedication and most people won't reach this level. + he is not a natty, I don't think there isn't any 100kg calisthenic guys that were natties.

Though he only does flips, I don't think he does other type of calisthenics anymore, so he is not an example of someone who doesn't train legs

What is the name of those techniques? I want to find basic training for it.
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