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PostSubject: Efilism Wed Oct 23, 2013 12:32 am

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PostSubject: Re: Efilism Wed Oct 23, 2013 12:49 am

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PostSubject: Re: Efilism Wed Oct 23, 2013 7:39 am

Another form of nihilism, usually suffered from males who now find themselves disenfranchised, excluded, debased, with no male companionship, no sense of self worth, and that have been excluded from the genetic pool or find it too costly to enter, because females are now permitted to price their pussy out of the reach of the average Joe.

Anti-Natalism is part of it.

Men, disconnected from their past, their bloodlines, their heritage, feel lost. hey either become females in psychology, attaching themselves to the popular, the modern, to the institutional alpha-male, dedicating their lives to serving and servicing an an abstraction, an idea, or they drop-out, like the MRA's.

The absence of an absolute, in this case the absence of a meaning, a purpose, outside the human skull, a transcendental, universal IT, becomes an argument against life and the world.
Males are not permitted to create their own purpose and meaning, but surrender to the popular, cultural, social norms.
Emasculation of the mind, begins with this immersion into an ideal men cannot relate to, find nothing akin to themselves within.
In the past males belonged to a clan, and went through rites of passage symbolizing their inclusion within a shared genetic and memetic past.
Today there is none of that. In fact men are made to feel ashamed for being men, they are told they must think and behave more like females, they feel no relationship with those they are supposed to think of as their own kind, and then they are made to believe that discriminating, trying to find one's own kind within the multiplicity of fake uniformity, is wrong.
In the past a man could sacrifice himself give himself to the shared bond of blood and values, but today he is asked to sacrifice himself to an abstraction, some whore's love, some nihilistic reinvention of reality where all is turned on its head and the senses are not permitted to be used.

He feels alienated from his own body.

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PostSubject: Re: Efilism Sat Oct 26, 2013 9:48 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Efilism Sun Oct 27, 2013 6:21 pm

This is the difference between thinking emotionally and thinking rationally.

The emotionally dominated one associates with the victim, the weak, the victim.
The "elephant" being eaten alive, is suffering.
And the one eating it alive is in ecstasy, in a state of frenzied rage.

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PostSubject: Re: Efilism Sun Oct 27, 2013 7:17 pm

I think the blonde guy makes some good points but if everything else in the universe is meaningless then suffering must be too, that's why efilism will probably never gain traction.
I thought it would be good to bring this subject up to you because you come to the some same conclusions but like you said your arguments are rational and the blonde guys are emotional. Thanks for the response. Do you think you might be able to delve into this problem deeper and write something on it?
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PostSubject: Re: Efilism Sun Oct 27, 2013 7:24 pm

I think many of these efilists are simply overly empathetic. This hyper-empathy is unhealthy. You don't need to worry about the sufferings of the world.

I'm not going to lie, I feel empathy for suffering animals here and there, etc. But what good is this empathy? Will it change anything? No. I can't be burdened with the woes of the world. This may sound cruel, but my only primary concern is myself and my family. If I extend my empathy to the entire world, I will go crazy. I acknowledge my empathy when it arises, but I dominate it and remind myself that suffering is the way of nature. Just have to man up and be tough.
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PostSubject: Re: Efilism Sun Oct 27, 2013 7:25 pm

whatdidthemonke wrote:
I think the blonde guy makes some good points but if everything else in the universe is meaningless then suffering must be too, that's why efilism will probably never gain traction.
I thought it would be good to bring this subject up to you because you come to the some same conclusions but like you said your arguments are rational and the blonde guys are emotional. Thanks for the response. Do you think you might be able to delve into this problem deeper and write something on it?
If you give me a rational, reasoned, hook, I may latch onto it.

Wasting my time on nihilists with another reason to hate life and themselves is all I do.
I'm looking for the deeper currents, the foundations.
Some clown telling me how suffering is wrong, when he lives on other life, and that another organism feeling is reason enough to suffer yourself, gives me nothing.

What "problem" do you see?
I see a loser who is willingly taking himself out of the gene pool, because it has already excluded him.

Is this a problem to you?
I wish more life, hating, self-haters, would do exactly that.
MRA's are a solution, not a problem.

The only "problem" I see is that it is usually a Caucasian.
Some, long-haired, pussy, who was raised to hate everything that made him possible.
THAT, is the problem.

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PostSubject: Re: Efilism Sun Oct 27, 2013 7:52 pm

Primal Rage wrote:
I think many of these efilists are simply overly empathetic. This hyper-empathy is unhealthy. You don't need to worry about the sufferings of the world.
I think he's looking for a rationalization to feel good about not even trying.

I sense hidden desperation and a need to unburden himself from it. To find something or some to carry that too, or for him. That's my 5 minute impression.
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