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PostSubject: Civilization Tolerance Mon Nov 04, 2013 1:18 pm

When the user of an advanced civilization such as ours looks back at history it's kind of like an amnesiac addict learning about his old habits:

"What!?! I used to drink only 3 beers every day? That must've sucked! I need at least 5 to feel OK."

"Wait a minute, there was once a time when I didn't drink?! I'm glad I made it through that nasty, brutish and miserable lifestyle without committing suicide. There was light at the end of the tunnel, and now I'm enlightened."
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PostSubject: Re: Civilization Tolerance Mon Nov 04, 2013 3:41 pm

Good thing the addict only recalls his essence as an addict and has nothing else to remember.

I am so liberal that I do not even want to conserve my life.

I think to myself:
"We need change. Change is good. Entropy be damned, all will turn out well in the afterlife, in the future. Why be so primitive as to reject change which happens without intent? I hate my past, my nature, my present, and so the future aging, decay and death can only be for the best."

Balance!!!
Balance!!!

This either/or modern twats live in does not work.

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PostSubject: Re: Civilization Tolerance Mon Nov 04, 2013 4:20 pm

I used to be a Marxist ...then I became more fascist...now I'm returning to my roost.
Reborn, I am.

i say change is good.
I say let's learn form the past and let go of those old sexual categories, all of them and not only the male/female sub-categories.

No more of the old tactics.
A new one.


Some may choose to not conserve the totalitarianism of their organic form, and may prefer to abandon themselves to change and the coming inevitability of a merger with the infinite.
I choose a different kind of change.
No more human beings and all that genetic, deterministic crap.

I say adapt or die, and when liberal twats create a world where none of it matters except emotion, and words, let us change our ways.
A change of strategy built on the mistake of the past. Not a return to the past, as if it is possible, but a guidance attained from knowing it intimately and not superficially.  

I, and many others better minds than I, have already began the process of deciphering this man-made world, with a different kind of mind-control, and a different kind of aggression - a passive-aggression, or violence with a gentle, feminine touch.
The kind that makes you want to surrender, and where it's too late by the time you realize what happened.

When the herd moves you move with it.
When the herd says change, you change to accommodate their new behavior.

If they say no more determinism no more sexual labels then I say YES!!!
Let me begin with the label HUMAN!
If they say no more genetics, let technology become the messiah, I say YES!!!
Let me take advantage of it, and the simpletons who give themselves to techniques. Let me be a master of technique.

If they say let us pretend what nature denies us: justice, equality, fairness, I say YES!!!
But let me pretend further. Let me the best liar to these simpletons who wish to immerse themselves in the lie.
If words is how they avoid the real, then let me become a wordsmith, and let me use them to mind-fuck these females ...rape them from the inside out.
Let me seduce them and leave them gasping for more.

Let me reduce their lives to a big ruse.
let me play with children using their toys.

And if a 'bad man' is what they seek to make themselves feel good, then let me be that, or let me be as kind, charming, and polite and comforting as I can muster before so much dullness.
Liberal Democracy?
YES!!!

Where the reduction of man to a number permits me to fully exploit their void, if I were tempted to do so.

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PostSubject: Re: Civilization Tolerance Mon Nov 04, 2013 6:38 pm

That's all fine and well until there's no more men left willing to fight and die for feminizing manipulators. As you point out, feminine memes infect societies through the women and children, but enough of those children had to grow up to be men willing to hold a spear or a gun and die for Jesus and apple pie in order for the meme to survive.

As someone once asked, who is willing to die for the Colors of Benetton? How many boys are being taught at mother's knee about patriotism and duty and equality before God MLK?
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PostSubject: Re: Civilization Tolerance Mon Nov 04, 2013 6:43 pm

When the environment is contained Behavioral Sink a particular psychology emerges to adapt the organism to this limiting environment with no frontiers left to escape into.

This is why Nihilism gains ground and spreads.

As a reaction to this inescapable circumstance, and until frontiers open up, - if they do - a new strategy must be found, a new adaptation.
I've defined the words and offered my perspective on what the environment is, I have not fully explored the adaptive strategy, because of two major reason:

I do not care to....and not all would benefit or would be able to take advantage of it without becoming monsters.


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PostSubject: Re: Civilization Tolerance Mon Nov 04, 2013 6:54 pm

You keep on worrying about that. I'll be in my virtual reality slaying dragons and sacrificing virgins to Thor. You gotta ride the tiger.
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PostSubject: Re: Civilization Tolerance Mon Nov 04, 2013 6:57 pm

Worried?
I find this shit fascinating ...my own virtual reality played in real-time, with real organisms, and not fake ones.

I study a herd which has pushed all other animal life to the outskirts and is now dominating  my aesthetic frontiers.

I said it before...as a child I used to spend hours under the Mediterranean sun watching ants go about their business.
Sometimes I would intervene to see how they would react to a situation, such as a fly with its wings cut-off or a caterpillar, or a foreign ant.

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PostSubject: Re: Civilization Tolerance Mon Nov 04, 2013 8:13 pm

I'm the same. Used to destroy huge ant colonies and see how they reacted. Throw firecrackers into hornets nests. Attracted to self inflicted pain and high risk actions; a kind of thrill. A huge daydreamer as a kid. Would sit for hours at school and come up with more interesting worlds in my mind. Not comfortable in large social settings. Yet highly enjoy social games within small groups or between individuals.

Internet changed it all. All of human knowledge at the tip of a few keystrokes. Highly sophisticated games with an infinite amount of variables. Addictive to say the least. Man life is good. Now I'm still as interested in the world as a kid, only more calculated.
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PostSubject: Re: Civilization Tolerance Mon Nov 04, 2013 9:45 pm

Satyr wrote:
I used to be a Marxist ...then I became more fascist...now I'm returning to my roost.
Reborn, I am.

i say change is good.
I say let's learn form the past and let go of those old sexual categories, all of them and not only the male/female sub-categories.

No more of the old tactics.
A new one.


Some may choose to not conserve the totalitarianism of their organic form, and may prefer to abandon themselves to change and the coming inevitability of a merger with the infinite.
I choose a different kind of change.
No more human beings and all that genetic, deterministic crap.
What? I didn't get you - 'genetic crap'?

Freud saying 'Anatomy is Fate'?

Genes hold the potential, Environments nurture, the Spirit selects is what I understand generally on this.


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I say adapt or die, and when liberal twats create a world where none of it matters except emotion, and words, let us change our ways.
Sloterdijk might be the first Cosmo-politan in that ancient greek sense of the term... the first ancient in the modern..
I am trying to grasp him differently with this book I've been excerpting from.

A cosmo-politan is the best dis-guise perhaps - the stance he adopts.
Being post-human...

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A change of strategy built on the mistake of the past. Not a return to the past, as if it is possible, but a guidance attained from knowing it intimately and not superficially.  
What past mistake are you referring to?

Reaching out to the "many" you mean?



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PostSubject: Re: Civilization Tolerance Mon Nov 04, 2013 9:55 pm

I mean I used to be naive about human beings.

I saw what weakness is and how it quickly becomes vile if it gained power. I realized that to be human was innate, not learned.
I lost interest in the many.


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PostSubject: Re: Civilization Tolerance Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:43 pm

This is a very intersting passage, given that I see co-operative civilization as feminine, and solidarity of culture as masculine...  the advanced civilization in terms of a menopause, never thought of that. This is also a commentary on modern atomic stirnerite individualism of selfishness different from the NE Individualism of self-ishness;


Baudrillard wrote:
"Everyone is moving in their own orbit, trapped in their own bubble, like satellites. Strictly speaking, no one has a destiny any more, since there is destiny only where one intersects with others. Now, the trajectories do not intersect (the vague clinamen sometimes produced by the sentimental collision of a few atoms cannot be called destiny, nor can the occasional turbulence produced by acceleration). They merely have the same destination. And so, as on interchanges or motorways (and this goes for information superhighways too), people see only those travelling in the same direction. And even then, they see them no more than fish see each other, when they all instantly veer off in the same direction. There is less risk of an accident that way, but the possibility of meeting is non-existent. The other no longer has any but a marginal value.

This is the great syndrome of the social menopause. Allergy to the social, sociality disorders, the end of social ovulation. Allopause: relational disorders. Oneiropause: the end of the ovulation of dreams. Feverishness, anxiety, dizzy spells, default of heirs. Irritation. Everything begins with irritation, the most inoffensive form. A question: `What gets on your nerves?' In the past, we would have asked what excites you, what outrages you? But we are no longer excited or outraged; things get on our nerves, we are irritated. Irritation is the epidermal fallout of the grand passions, a little burst of reaction to the undesirable, the unbearable daily round. What gets on your nerves? Everything, by definition. Irritation is an allergic form without any definite object, a profuse, diffuse creeping of the flesh, a sidelong sort of affect. Mechanical problems, other people's mannerisms, your own mannerisms, children, objects get on your nerves -- their failings, their ruses, their clandestine resistance. Everything which plagues you, everything which has to do with the futile burdening of existence and whose express function it is to irritate you. The French term `énervement', which once referred to the severing of the tendons of people who then lay insensible, unable to move, is today synonymous with annoyance and nervous hyperreaction, but the two senses are closely related since this hyperreaction in fact corresponds to a profound disaffection, an annoyed indifference, a devitalization.


Allergy is of the same order: an indefinable form of repulsion, a diffuse abreaction, a repressed hostility, as though the body were attacking itself, producing its annoyance from the inside. It is impatience, or frustrated passion, linked to the suspect otherness of an artificially overcathected world. Every system like our own, which functions by surface impulse, produces this kind of surface repulsion, which is its bodily manifestation. Every society which functions by rejection, by exclusion, causes this kind of inflammation or protective rash -- a barrage against the seduction of a world you fear, but also against the crowding-in of a world which disgusts you.

Contrary to the hysteric, who, by making an exhibition of himself, betrays his despair at not being there, allergy testifies to the confusion of being there, and to the excessive presence of the body. Let us not forget that allergy is hypersensitivity to a particular substance. It is an excess of positive reaction. Thus an allergic world is a world of excess, of an oversensitivity to anything whatever -- precisely, to others? -- but one which turns around in a negative conversion. The same pattern in anorexia: denial of the excess of body, metaphor for the hypertrophy of the system.

All these indifferent passions, or passions born of indifference, all these negative passions, culminate in hatred. A strange expression: `I've got the hate' [J'ai la haine]. No object. It is like `I'm demonstrating', but for whom, for what? `I take responsibility' [J'assume], but for what? Nothing in particular. One perhaps takes responsibility precisely for the nothing. One demonstrates for or against the nothing -- how are we to know? This is the fate of all these intransitive verbs. The graffiti said: `I exist', `I live at this particular place'. This was stated with a kind of exultation, yet at the same time it said: `There is no meaning to my life'.

Similarly, `I've got the hate' says at the same time: `This hate I have has no object'; `There's no meaning to it'. Hatred is doubtless something which does indeed outlive any definable object, and feeds on the disappearance of that object. Who are we to take against today? There, precisely, is the object: the absent other of hatred. `Having' hatred is like a sort of potential of -- negative and reactive -- energy, but energy all the same. These are, indeed, the only passions we have today: hatred, disgust, allergy, aversion, rejection and disaffection. We no longer know what we want, but we know what we don't want. In its pure expression of rejection, it is a non-negotiable, irremediable passion. Yet there is in it something like an invitation to the absent other to offer himself as an object for that hatred."[The Perfect Crime]

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