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PostSubject: Re: All kinds of love... Tue Jan 20, 2015 9:20 pm

The Fall. TV series.

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PostSubject: Re: All kinds of love... Fri Jan 23, 2015 2:14 am

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The Fall. TV series.

Hear, hear.

Women fear men because they are afraid they might kill them.
Men fear women because they are afraid they might laugh at them.

The exemplification of daughter-father, father-daughter love was most marking.
"Mummy, why can't little girls marry their daddies."
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PostSubject: Re: All kinds of love... Fri Jan 23, 2015 8:15 pm

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The Fall. TV series.

Hear, hear.

Women fear men because they are afraid they might kill them.
Men fear women because they are afraid they might laugh at them.

The exemplification of daughter-father, father-daughter love was most marking.
"Mummy, why can't little girls marry their daddies."

Yes, that is the kernel.

If we combine both your quotes, it concludes that a father can only be a Hero in the eyes of his daughter, and the daughter grown up doting on her father, cannot but Laugh at other men who can never compare to her father.

I too would punch that C.Inspector and give him a bloody nose! That kind of weakness... aishhhh
The war between the sexes where self-love and misogyny become borderline...

I like the way its divided into a quadrant between extreme eros [independent-cold-in-control] and extreme agape [dependent-blind trust of the teenager] on the one plane,,, criss-crossing  with balanced eros [wife] and balanced agape [daughter].

How can a man relate to all four, find a wholesomeness to feel like a full man that modernity is taming, without Ascending into a crime?
Its also about the self-love of a man trying to protect and nurture the last sparks of himself as full man.

S1E4 had him reading N. on the Last Men...

The pic. of the full woman also, that they want to present, is what counts for passion either way, for her, is to feel a man's strength. Not his violence in a crass way, but his strength - of his thrust, his hold, his grip. To feel the weight of a fate he Is. Sex is fata-l for the female.

To feel all the difference of a male being male, inside her, upon her, toward her...
A man wants a woman physically inside out,,, a woman wants a man psychically inside out.

Quote :
"On the basis of ordinary experience, one might expect the person who is nearer to final satisfaction to be even more avidly erotic than anyone else. Desire typically reaches its peak intensity precisely when we near the wanted object. But what is true of most desire may not be true of the philosopher’s desire. When we want to hold or possess something physically, we are apt to become most intensely desirous when it is nearby: there it is, just beyond one’s grasp; one can ‘‘almost touch it.’’ But when it is knowledge or sight of the beautiful or the Good that one wants, one’s desire is apt to be calmed as one nears it: there it is; I see it; and by seeing it, I already have it. Thus the philosopher’s eros may be the eros of one who loves and desires, but who also, to some considerable extent, abides with that which he desires." [Cooper, Eros in Plato, Rousseau, and Nietzsche]


Can't wait for season 3.

p.s. I love the love-lock-ing... an old pagan custom...



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PostSubject: Re: All kinds of love... Fri Jan 30, 2015 12:29 am

Saw the first season of "The Fall"... Gillian Anderson's character is very unlikable(seems like a feminist)... I know she lived in England for a time growing up, but for some reason I prefer her to speak with an American accent (Or maybe the Irish accents in the show just sound more pleasant than whatever English accent she is doing)... Jamie Dornan is another handsome non-Jewish European playing a Jew... The Nietzsche quote was cringeworthy... I'll keep watching, hopefully the killer "wins."

I like "The Missing" better... Intro song:

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PostSubject: Re: All kinds of love... Fri Jan 30, 2015 11:33 am

Gillian's character is a bisexual feminist, and she is one in real life as well. Independent female apparently means any which way..., but its not that despicable kind of feminist; why the series is good.

Her character is perhaps modelled after Clarice in Hannibal... the female cop who's outdone her male peers, etc.

And cringeworthy?
Maybe its because you haven't seen it to the end.
The climatic interrogation turned out to be really anticlimatic; not the kind of drilling I'd have expected. But other than that, not many series that talk of the hypocrisy of Xt. with a Nietzschean flavour; I make the best of it.


The Last Man:

Nietzsche wrote:
"Alas, the time is coming when man will no longer give birth to a star. Alas, the time of the most despicable man is coming, he that is no longer able to despise himself. Behold, I show you the last man.

'What is love? What is creation? What is longing? What is a star?' thus asks the last man, and blinks.

The earth has become small, and on it hops the last man, who makes everything small. His race is as ineradicable as the flea; the last man lives longest.

'We have invented happiness,'say the last men, and they blink. They have left the regions where it was hard to live, for one needs warmth. One still loves one's neighbor and rubs against him, for one needs warmth...

One still works, for work is a form of entertainment. But one is careful lest the entertainment be too harrowing. One no longer becomes poor or rich: both require too much exertion. Who still wants to rule? Who obey? Both require too much exertion.

No shepherd and one herd! Everybody wants the same, everybody is the same: whoever feels different goes voluntarily into a madhouse.

'Formerly, all the world was mad,' say the most refined, and they blink...

One has one's little pleasure for the day and one's little pleasure for the night: but one has a regard for health.

'We have invented happiness,' say the last men, and they blink."


Haven't seen the Missing, I might.

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PostSubject: Re: All kinds of love... Mon Feb 02, 2015 4:47 pm

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Women fear men because they are afraid they might kill them.
Men fear women because they are afraid they might laugh at them.

When she said that, the male cop should of laughed. That's the appropriate reaction, not sitting there like an idiot, speechless, pushed into silence by her tone.
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PostSubject: Re: All kinds of love... Mon Feb 02, 2015 7:06 pm


Scully hates men in a sentimental kind of way - detached idealistically. That's her game-plan for her life. That's a good motivator.
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PostSubject: Re: All kinds of love... Sat Feb 07, 2015 8:01 am

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Scully hates men in a sentimental kind of way - detached idealistically. That's her game-plan for her life. That's a good motivator.

Do you have a preference, from the three...?

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PostSubject: Re: All kinds of love... Sat Feb 07, 2015 10:12 am

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Scully hates men in a sentimental kind of way - detached idealistically. That's her game-plan for her life. That's a good motivator.

Do you have a preference, from the three...?

...The 'three'?
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PostSubject: Re: All kinds of love... Sat Feb 07, 2015 9:20 pm

Are we talking about The X-Files or The Fall?
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PostSubject: Re: All kinds of love... Sun Feb 08, 2015 3:51 am

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Scully hates men in a sentimental kind of way - detached idealistically. That's her game-plan for her life. That's a good motivator.

Do you have a preference, from the three...?

...The 'three'?

Her, the wife, the girl...?

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PostSubject: Re: All kinds of love... Sun Feb 08, 2015 3:51 am

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Are we talking about The X-Files or The Fall?

The latter. You Supra?

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PostSubject: Re: All kinds of love... Sun Feb 08, 2015 4:41 am

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Scully hates men in a sentimental kind of way - detached idealistically. That's her game-plan for her life. That's a good motivator.

Do you have a preference, from the three...?

...The 'three'?

Her, the wife, the girl...?

No. In their own ways they all leave me cold.
When I was younger I'd have had a preference for the Anderson character.
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PostSubject: Re: All kinds of love... Sun Feb 08, 2015 4:45 am

Do you see a worthwhile-to-you character now, anywhere on screen?

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PostSubject: Re: All kinds of love... Sun Feb 08, 2015 5:06 am

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Do you see a worthwhile-to-you character now, anywhere on screen?

The thing is that the way how the romantic interactions are portrayed in contemporary TV, the whole dynamic, demands from women to play a set of roles which are not attractive to me.

Who I like is Yvonne Strahovski in Chuck. At least how I remember it.
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Do you see a worthwhile-to-you character now, anywhere on screen?

The thing is that the way how the romantic interactions are portrayed in contemporary TV, the whole dynamic, demands from women to play a set of roles which are not attractive to me.

Who I like is Yvonne Strahovski in Chuck. At least how I remember it.

Chuck that. Did you find enlightenment at the Church of the Eternal Wind?

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PostSubject: Re: All kinds of love... Mon Feb 09, 2015 11:52 am

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Do you see a worthwhile-to-you character now, anywhere on screen?

The thing is that the way how the romantic interactions are portrayed in contemporary TV, the whole dynamic, demands from women to play a set of roles which are not attractive to me.

Who I like is Yvonne Strahovski in Chuck. At least how I remember it.

Chuck that. Did you find enlightenment at the Church of the Eternal Wind?

I only made it through the first two seasons.
It's kind of like the Big Bang Theory in how it is supposed to be a comedy yet it portrays modernity quite accurately in certain ways. That's what makes it funny. If the show were taking itself seriously then the audience would be forced to be outraged. Forced by the social commissars who determine the official narrative of what reality is.
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PostSubject: Re: All kinds of love... Mon Feb 09, 2015 11:55 am

+ her eyes look quite alright, although it's more difficult to tell with a woman.
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PostSubject: Re: All kinds of love... Tue Jan 12, 2016 7:25 pm

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PostSubject: Re: All kinds of love... Sun Jan 24, 2016 8:54 pm

Open Hearts (2002).
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PostSubject: Re: All kinds of love... Tue Feb 02, 2016 6:20 pm

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Open Hearts (2002).

Have only seen the Korean remake: April Snow.

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PostSubject: Re: All kinds of love... Wed Feb 03, 2016 6:08 pm

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The former has as its experience the action by which the subject of individual lives are in relation to one another as a result of an immediate life changing event, con-sequently attentive to the acceptance of an experience or period of an event, and inattentive to the event apart.
Therefore, it dismisses regret for integrity.
In the Danish Open Hearts the male is bestowed the submissive characteristics of a forfeited intellect where sheer strength was the determining effectuation and the Queen female as the versatility of a domain of mastered feelings and concomitant shaping forest of intellect.

I don't recall the Korean April Snow attenuating the fallen masculine element so evidently in their characterization, whereby the male variably represents an organic inclination to the spacey preoccupation of mourning.
Its cinematography accentuates this insecurity with the grey marketing of Korean winters and the androgynous actor who is pointedly presumed with the dynamics of femininity under which is set a subsumed masculinity.
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The former has as its experience the action by which the subject of individual lives are in relation to one another as a result of an immediate life changing event, con-sequently attentive to the acceptance of an experience or period of an event, and inattentive to the event apart.
Therefore, it dismisses regret for integrity.

In the Danish Open Hearts the male is bestowed the submissive characteristics of a forfeited intellect where sheer strength was the determining effectuation and the Queen female as the versatility of a domain of mastered feelings and concomitant shaping forest of intellect.

I don't recall the Korean April Snow attenuating the fallen masculine element so evidently in their characterization, whereby the male variably represents an organic inclination to the spacey preoccupation of mourning.
Its cinematography accentuates this insecurity with the grey marketing of Korean winters and the androgynous actor who is pointedly presumed with the dynamics of femininity under which is set a subsumed masculinity.

I saw the Korean one ages ago, and have to see the Danish one sometime, to compare. I remember thinking the Korean approach was very cheesy, but the point of departure is the absurdity to remain intimate with the infidel charting the same route, to learn by hurting and to learn even if it is hurting… and before you know, you have become the other coming full circle,, snow to spring… and it begins…

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PostSubject: Re: All kinds of love... Wed Feb 03, 2016 9:18 pm

Haha, Korean cinema is melodramatic.

Yeah, it really defines the parameters and environment of intimacy and love.
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PostSubject: Re: All kinds of love... Mon Feb 15, 2016 9:20 pm

Perfect Number (2012)

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You're out of your mind.

This is not love.
This is not Real!
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