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Gillian's character is a bisexual feminist, and she is one in real life as well. Independent female apparently means any which way..., but its not that despicable kind of feminist; why the series is good.

Her character is perhaps modelled after Clarice in Hannibal... the female cop who's outdone her male peers, etc.

And cringeworthy?
Maybe its because you haven't seen it to the end.
The climatic interrogation turned out to be really anticlimatic; not the kind of drilling I'd have expected. But other than that, not many series that talk of the hypocrisy of Xt. with a Nietzschean flavour; I make the best of it.


The Last Man:

Nietzsche wrote:
"Alas, the time is coming when man will no longer give birth to a star. Alas, the time of the most despicable man is coming, he that is no longer able to despise himself. Behold, I show you the last man.

'What is love? What is creation? What is longing? What is a star?' thus asks the last man, and blinks.

The earth has become small, and on it hops the last man, who makes everything small. His race is as ineradicable as the flea; the last man lives longest.

'We have invented happiness,'say the last men, and they blink. They have left the regions where it was hard to live, for one needs warmth. One still loves one's neighbor and rubs against him, for one needs warmth...

One still works, for work is a form of entertainment. But one is careful lest the entertainment be too harrowing. One no longer becomes poor or rich: both require too much exertion. Who still wants to rule? Who obey? Both require too much exertion.

No shepherd and one herd! Everybody wants the same, everybody is the same: whoever feels different goes voluntarily into a madhouse.

'Formerly, all the world was mad,' say the most refined, and they blink...

One has one's little pleasure for the day and one's little pleasure for the night: but one has a regard for health.

'We have invented happiness,' say the last men, and they blink."


Haven't seen the Missing, I might.

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"ἐδιζησάμην ἐμεωυτόν." [Heraclitus]

"All that exists is just and unjust and equally justified in both." [Aeschylus, Prometheus]

"The history of everyday is constituted by our habits. ... How have you lived today?" [N.]

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Supra-Aryanist wrote:

Women fear men because they are afraid they might kill them.
Men fear women because they are afraid they might laugh at them.

When she said that, the male cop should of laughed. That's the appropriate reaction, not sitting there like an idiot, speechless, pushed into silence by her tone.
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Scully hates men in a sentimental kind of way - detached idealistically. That's her game-plan for her life. That's a good motivator.
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Scully hates men in a sentimental kind of way - detached idealistically. That's her game-plan for her life. That's a good motivator.

Do you have a preference, from the three...?

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Lyssa wrote:
Anfang wrote:

Scully hates men in a sentimental kind of way - detached idealistically. That's her game-plan for her life. That's a good motivator.

Do you have a preference, from the three...?

...The 'three'?
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Are we talking about The X-Files or The Fall?
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Anfang wrote:
Lyssa wrote:
Anfang wrote:

Scully hates men in a sentimental kind of way - detached idealistically. That's her game-plan for her life. That's a good motivator.

Do you have a preference, from the three...?

...The 'three'?

Her, the wife, the girl...?

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Supra-Aryanist wrote:
Are we talking about The X-Files or The Fall?

The latter. You Supra?

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Lyssa wrote:
Anfang wrote:
Lyssa wrote:
Anfang wrote:

Scully hates men in a sentimental kind of way - detached idealistically. That's her game-plan for her life. That's a good motivator.

Do you have a preference, from the three...?

...The 'three'?

Her, the wife, the girl...?

No. In their own ways they all leave me cold.
When I was younger I'd have had a preference for the Anderson character.
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Do you see a worthwhile-to-you character now, anywhere on screen?

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Do you see a worthwhile-to-you character now, anywhere on screen?

The thing is that the way how the romantic interactions are portrayed in contemporary TV, the whole dynamic, demands from women to play a set of roles which are not attractive to me.

Who I like is Yvonne Strahovski in Chuck. At least how I remember it.
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Lyssa wrote:
Do you see a worthwhile-to-you character now, anywhere on screen?

The thing is that the way how the romantic interactions are portrayed in contemporary TV, the whole dynamic, demands from women to play a set of roles which are not attractive to me.

Who I like is Yvonne Strahovski in Chuck. At least how I remember it.

Chuck that. Did you find enlightenment at the Church of the Eternal Wind?

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Lyssa wrote:
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Lyssa wrote:
Do you see a worthwhile-to-you character now, anywhere on screen?

The thing is that the way how the romantic interactions are portrayed in contemporary TV, the whole dynamic, demands from women to play a set of roles which are not attractive to me.

Who I like is Yvonne Strahovski in Chuck. At least how I remember it.

Chuck that. Did you find enlightenment at the Church of the Eternal Wind?

I only made it through the first two seasons.
It's kind of like the Big Bang Theory in how it is supposed to be a comedy yet it portrays modernity quite accurately in certain ways. That's what makes it funny. If the show were taking itself seriously then the audience would be forced to be outraged. Forced by the social commissars who determine the official narrative of what reality is.
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+ her eyes look quite alright, although it's more difficult to tell with a woman.
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Spring (2014) - USA
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Ammollare.
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Open Hearts (2002).
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Open Hearts (2002).

Have only seen the Korean remake: April Snow.

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@Lyssa

The former has as its experience the action by which the subject of individual lives are in relation to one another as a result of an immediate life changing event, con-sequently attentive to the acceptance of an experience or period of an event, and inattentive to the event apart.
Therefore, it dismisses regret for integrity.
In the Danish Open Hearts the male is bestowed the submissive characteristics of a forfeited intellect where sheer strength was the determining effectuation and the Queen female as the versatility of a domain of mastered feelings and concomitant shaping forest of intellect.

I don't recall the Korean April Snow attenuating the fallen masculine element so evidently in their characterization, whereby the male variably represents an organic inclination to the spacey preoccupation of mourning.
Its cinematography accentuates this insecurity with the grey marketing of Korean winters and the androgynous actor who is pointedly presumed with the dynamics of femininity under which is set a subsumed masculinity.
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The former has as its experience the action by which the subject of individual lives are in relation to one another as a result of an immediate life changing event, con-sequently attentive to the acceptance of an experience or period of an event, and inattentive to the event apart.
Therefore, it dismisses regret for integrity.

In the Danish Open Hearts the male is bestowed the submissive characteristics of a forfeited intellect where sheer strength was the determining effectuation and the Queen female as the versatility of a domain of mastered feelings and concomitant shaping forest of intellect.

I don't recall the Korean April Snow attenuating the fallen masculine element so evidently in their characterization, whereby the male variably represents an organic inclination to the spacey preoccupation of mourning.
Its cinematography accentuates this insecurity with the grey marketing of Korean winters and the androgynous actor who is pointedly presumed with the dynamics of femininity under which is set a subsumed masculinity.

I saw the Korean one ages ago, and have to see the Danish one sometime, to compare. I remember thinking the Korean approach was very cheesy, but the point of departure is the absurdity to remain intimate with the infidel charting the same route, to learn by hurting and to learn even if it is hurting… and before you know, you have become the other coming full circle,, snow to spring… and it begins…

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Haha, Korean cinema is melodramatic.

Yeah, it really defines the parameters and environment of intimacy and love.
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Perfect Number (2012)

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No, no, this is wrong.
You're out of your mind.

This is not love.
This is not Real!
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