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PostSubject: Energy Energy EmptyFri Jun 18, 2021 2:22 pm

Energy, from the Greek ΕΝΕΡΓΕΙΑ....ΕΝ - in - ΕΡΓΟ - work, process, state of agitation...etc.
Activity.

Convectional use of energy is in reference to a dynamic process slower than the perceiving mind's processing speeds - its metabolic rhythms.
To be more precise the metabolic rhythms of the sensual cells and the brain's processing cells.
Both are important because sensual input goes through two interrelations - translations conversions - to a form of energy the brain can transmit and process.
The third conversion translation, interpretations is when the brain react or when it acts based on the product of this sensual data - e.g., in order for The organism to react it must convert mental interpretations into actions, via the body.
This is also what art is based upon, i.e., language, technology, innovation, techniques etc.

Matter is energy which is slower in relation than the perceiving mind's processing speeds - its metabolic rhythms.

Existence = dynamic interactivity.
What is not dynamic and does not interact does not exist, but only as neural clusters referring to nothing outside the mind - a theoretical concept.
Ironically the concept exists as dynamic interactivity which has no references in world, independent from mind.

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PostSubject: Re: Energy Energy EmptyFri Jun 18, 2021 2:28 pm

To help us conceptualize Energy we can use Superstring Theory, and imagine a vibrating - oscillating - string, only there is no sting, only vibration.
What is vibrating?
Think of Heidegger's conception of space as possibility.
What is vibrating - oscillating - is possibility.
Matter/Energy being patterned possibilities, i.e., predictable, repeating, consistent....ergo Probabilities.
We call this order. We experience it as substance, i.e., matter, energy.
Therefore, order is probability, or matter, or energy, or pattern.
Now we may introduce into it all another factor.
Energies with no pattern - unpredictable, non-repeating, inconsistent - and we can call this Chaos. 

So we have the two types of existence - Yin/Yang, Order/Chaos - Patterned/Non-Patterned...but always dynamic and interactive.

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PostSubject: Re: Energy Energy EmptyFri Jun 18, 2021 2:40 pm

Let us now proceed to types - kinds, of matter/energy, as we experience them.
different kinds of patterns - energies, order - refer to different rhythms of vibration; different sequences of repetition; different rates, speeds of vibration.

What is the sequence?
It refers of the probability of interactivity within a given dimension.
we experience 3 dimensions, with time being the 4th...but there are many dimensions and they are increasing - given that the cosmos is expanding. Expansion is how we experience the gradual multiplication of dimensions within 4 dimensional space/time.
Expansion means dimensional fragmentation, or multiplication. 

Therefore a kind of matter is characterized by the probability of interactivity within a dimension - and the sequence of this probability within expanding possibilities.

Let's say there are 10 diemsions....to try to conceptualize how I conceptualize all this.
A kind of matter - let's say metal - has a very slow rhythm of vibration/oscillation, but it also has a specific sequence and speed and rhythm.
The dimensional sequence determines how we experience it - how we distinguish it form other kinds of matter.
It speed determines its mass, and hardness, relative to us. 

We process this as kind of matter, and we differentiate it from other kinds of matter, or from other kinds of energy and liquid, which are faster sequences. 
This is why I call it oscillation because the sequence within multi-dimesional space would be more of an oscillation, whereas vibration is how it is experienced within 4 dimensional space/time.

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PostSubject: Re: Energy Energy EmptyFri Jun 18, 2021 2:49 pm

These energies interact with living organisms - which are also unities of multi different kinds of energies.
Life interprets this interaction and processes it, each in its own way.
Successful interpretations survive; unsuccessful ones perish - natural selection.
The accuracy of the interpretation determines the probability of success.

These interpretations - translations, conversions - are what is called subjective.

Ergo, living organisms exist in a world of their own making...but this does not mean independently from an objective reality, since the quality of the subjective interpretations determines its survival - continuance - as sufficient.
If the quality of the interpretation drops below the level of sufficiency the organism perishes, and the probability of tis perishing increasing in proportion to the insufficiency of its interpretations. 

Only a mitigating agency may intervene to shelter the organism from its own insufficient interpretations.
This, of course, cannot go on indefinitely because more intervention is required as the organisms that are being sheltered cultivate and propagate increasingly insufficient interpretations of the world. 
Eventually this sheltering system collapses.

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PostSubject: Re: Energy Energy EmptyFri Jun 18, 2021 2:55 pm

Patterned energies can merge into unities.

Interaction = attraction/repulsion, or harmony.
Less disharmony - more harmony - means less repulsion - less friction. 
Ergo, patterns of a similar, or near similar sequence, rhythms, attract, whereas those who are dissimilar repel, or resist.

Now it is possible for two disharmonious patterns to merge with the participation of a third and/or fourth, fifth pattern. 
Let's call these patterns particles, or qualia, or whatever.
In this case a mediating pattern can balance out a higher degree of repulsion. 
This is how we get multi-particled unities - atoms...

Only a force superior to their combined attractive forces can destroy such unities.

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PostSubject: Re: Energy Energy EmptyFri Jun 18, 2021 3:01 pm

Now let me give you a brief overview of chaos, or chaotic energies, or non-patterned energies. 
Immediately we realize that such energies can never unify - synthesize - into multi-particled forms.
These energies lack all harmony, so they repel all, including one another.
But we do perceive them via their interactions with patterned energies.
So, chaos is perceived via order as change....particularly unforeseen, unpredictable, change. 

This is why consciousness evolved, to deal with the unpredictable in real time....this is where free-will is not only possible but it is necessary for survival.
Gradually some organism's evolve higher degree of free-will, e.g. humans, while others stagnate in a trial and error method of survival, e.g., plants.
Evolution is slow for organism with no nervous system and no sophisticated processing organ, i.e., brain.
They rely of trial and error - a slow, wasteful process, relying on random mutations caused, ironically again, by chaotic energies and by the consequences of propagation.

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PostSubject: Re: Energy Energy EmptyFri Jun 18, 2021 3:41 pm

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Entropy/anentropy
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PostSubject: Re: Energy Energy EmptyFri Jun 18, 2021 6:22 pm

Datura wrote:
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Entropy/anentropy
Those words work as well.

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PostSubject: Re: Energy Energy EmptyFri Jun 18, 2021 6:25 pm

Interaction = Cause/Effect.
Exchange.
Attrition.
Entropy

All interactions, no mater how harmonious, involve some degree of repulsion - repulsion is attrition; attrition increases entropy.

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PostSubject: Re: Energy Energy EmptyFri Jun 18, 2021 7:25 pm

Interaction includes both cause & effect.
It implies both attraction & repulsion.

It does not imply intent.
When referring to willful agencies, intentional unities, then other terms could be used, e.g. intercourse, behaviour, dialogue, relating,...
Just as we used 'ego' to distinguish the conscious part of self, from the unconscious.

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PostSubject: Re: Energy Energy EmptySun Jul 04, 2021 2:01 pm

Satyr wrote:
Datura wrote:
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Entropy/anentropy
Those words work as well.

We are in constant flux and flow.. a constant work in progress.. our own oil on canvas, if you will.
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PostSubject: Re: Energy Energy EmptySun Jul 04, 2021 3:15 pm

Yes...never complete, never whole,. never final...

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*Mathematics is a language, and like all languages it is representational, referring to abstractions that can only exist in the mind as electromagnetic neurological patterns, i.e., algorithms.
Language can only approximate existence, because abstraction is a simplification/generalization of what is present - appearance.
It reduces space/time - possibilities/probabilities - to a manageable scale by cutting away what cannot be conceptualized or inserted into a cohesive mental model.

*Energy is interaction.
Interactions & interpretations.
Energy is how interaction is interpreted.
Two general kinds of energy = order, i.e., patterned, and chaotic/random, i.e. non-patterned.

*"Pull", i.e., attraction, signifies a low degree of repulsion - within the context of interactivity.
Where there is little friction, between patterns, i.e., energies, there is attraction - harmony,. congruence of patterns.

*"Quantum fields" refer to the field of probable interactions - a patterns field of effect, i.e., power.

*There is no physical object outside the mind - there is only interactivity that is interpreted as a "thing", an "object".
"Physical" means tangible, experienced - existing independently from mind. The mind interprets interactivities, i.e., energies, as kinds of things, i.e., types of patterns.

*Einstein is an example of how marketing creates an inter-subjective reality - a shared world-view, memes.
Those who control the narrative control how the inter-subjective reality is shaped.

*Mass describes degree of interactivity, i.e., probability of interactivity, within a particular, finite, dimensions, i.e., field of effect.
Higher mass means more probability of interactivity within fewer dimensions.
This can be conceptualized as a warping of space/time.
A black hole, for example is an extremely high mass unity of patterns that increasingly interacts within fewer and fewer dimensions, veering towards a singular dimension.
In my opinion the singularity - absolute - is impossible, so this process is never finalized.
A future Black Hole will increase in mass as it swallows space/time - imploding space time - and explodes as a new Big Bang before the singularity is attained - Yin/Yang never implode into a unity.
The closest to a singularity would be a duality. If such a unity would merge then existence would ends forever.

*He is trapped in thingness.
There is no "thing" vibrating, there is only vibration - oscillation in multi-diemsional space/time - interpreted as a "thing".
He is trapped by Abrahamic conditioning, and that is why he also has an end of the world mentality - messianic.


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PostSubject: Re: Energy Energy EmptySun Aug 29, 2021 2:16 pm

Energy = interactivity, i.e., attraction/repulsion.
Existence is dynamic, is energy - activity without intent.
Life emerges in existence - activity with intent, will, motive.
Using attributes that refer to life to refer to existence is an inversion characteristic of nihilism.
Here the intent can still be found in the living, and it is not motivated by a desire to understand existence but a need to cope with it.

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PostSubject: Re: Energy Energy EmptySun Aug 29, 2021 2:43 pm

Satyr wrote:
Energy = interactivity, i.e., attraction/repulsion.
Existence is dynamic, is energy - activity without intent.
Life emerges in existence - activity with intent, will, motive.
Using attributes that refer to life to refer to existence is an inversion characteristic of nihilism.
Here the intent can still be found in the living, and it is not to understand existence but to cope with it.


Existence without intent makes no sense when existence, nature, has purpose. Not all nature is your understanding of life.
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PostSubject: Re: Energy Energy EmptySun Aug 29, 2021 2:46 pm

Ha!!!

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Satyr wrote:
Ha!!!

Hmmm, contentiously thorough. Brief. Admired.
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PostSubject: Re: Energy Energy EmptyFri Jan 14, 2022 11:18 am

Mandelbrot, Benoit wrote:
Order doesn't come by itself.

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