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PostSubject: Re: Postmodernity Sun Aug 20, 2017 12:37 pm



0:25 - No the roots of Cultural Marxism are to be found in the seed - Judaism, that sprang two sprouts: Christianity, and Islam.
It was in the inversion, the linguistic overturning of reality, placing the noumenon, before the phenomenon, or equalizing the two, where the seed, that brought about the root, comes from.

If we wish to take it further back, into existentialism, we can say that the fertile soil where the seed emerges is in humanity's emerging self-consciousness, producing anxiety in the ability o juxtapose self, with other, and in an increasing awareness of possibilities/probabilities, creating uncertainty.
This is the psychological soil, where the seed takes root.
The creativity of the inversion, is a method of coping with this growing awareness - a method of fleeing into abstractions, into the esoteric, where everything is possible - in other words into the absurd possibilities of imagination freed from nature: fantasy.

0:55 - Critical theory arose to 'correct' the naivete of Marxism, which was a secularized version of Judeo-Christianity.
Their method involved absorbing the lessons gained from ideological challengers, and if they could not assimilate and mutate, they had to destroy by criticizing, until all trust in the challenging theory was reduced to a point where Marxism became its equal.
Once equalization in the minds of the masses was achieved, then the advantage went to Marxism, that held a emotional high-ground with its hopeful, loving, all-encompassing, positive Utopian message.
The masses were primed for the new version of Marxism - renamed and resold as progressive, as new and improved Abrahamism.

3:36 - Oppression refers to the lowest-common-denominator, where nobody below is left, and all are equalized in a uniformity of mediocrity, or baseness.
Whomever is below becomes the new standard to reduce humanity to.
So from an upward movement, in natural selection, we have a downward movement, of social selection.
From the idea(l) that distinguishes, we must have the idea(l) that unifies, and what unifies but the interests of the lowest member of a collective, an all-inclusive collective.
Humanity = world, and world must be changed to accommodate humanity, which is now no more than an idea(l), a mystical noetic concept, with none of the natural identifiers to divide: sex, race etc.
Humanity = God, and god can be given any positive moniker: value, love, self, pleasure, etc

4:06 - Or, race-mixing is promoted as a way of peacefully, and lovingly rid humanity of the European race, now reduced down to a simple colour.

4:15 - Christianity is too divisive, because it imposes the rule of surrendering to a dogma, or a God, as part of being worthy of salvation.
So, where Christianity solved the elitism, of Judaism's denial of their mind-games to other slaves, Marxism rids the final barrier of God, as a divisive barrier.
Salvation through service, which replaces faith, and loyalty to the Abrahamic God, is how own proves himself/herself worthy of salvation, and guarantees entry into Paradise, now renamed Utopia.
It is described in the same way: no strife, no suffering, no need, no conflict, no divisions.
Also a definition of absolute order - singularity.


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PostSubject: Re: Postmodernity Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:53 am

Peterson is not attacking modernism in its roots. He is trying to still hold on. It would be nice to see Peterson confronted on his delutions. He must know he is full of shit, but he flees and seeks only confort.

Peterson's fanboys are the worst. They are cattle. They seek answers to questions they can't even ask. Because they don't understand even the questions, they mystify Peterson as a god, prophet, who knows by status alone is finitive proof of what is or isn't.

To them he is god, a man who can't be wrong, and therefore everything he says and advocates are right, ok, moral and good, and things he is opposed are wrong, evil, bad.

The only way to shatter the cattles spell/delution and free them is to shatter their belief in their god. And to do so is to expose the rotten logic of their god.
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PostSubject: Re: Postmodernity Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:34 am

I agree.
Intelligence appears god-like to those who do not possess it on that level.
Divine.
All we have to do is see how inferior minds react to Nietzsche's genius, his writing eloquence, and his courage to expose what, for them, seems unintelligible.
The man didn't say anything new, philosophically, but he did diagnose a mental disorder, a dis-ease, and brought forth an ancient world-view that had been forgotten.
And he did it with style.
He has now become, in the circles of men-children, a do-no-wrong, demi-god,. whose name is offered as evidence or as validation of whatever idiocy they wish to propose, to replicate his effect.
Peterson is now that icon, idol, to be used by lower intellects, by lost souls, mostly boys, that seek in his insights a direction, meaning, clarity.
As you said....Peterson does not go all the way, remaining firm on Abrahamism and the collective good...perhaps not to risk his career, his social standing, or because he has not made the connections.

He reminds me of MRA, in the early years, when two pseudo-intellectuals made an internet name for themselves, and acquired a following, when they said the self-evident, to millions of boys that were clueless...but they never went all the way, remaining only in the distinction between men and women. Imitating feminism.
Their insights never crossed the racial line, not wanting to disillusion a potential segment of followers, but only kept to the anti-feminist rhetoric, offering its antithesis, using the same methods, and attracting the same kind of psychologies.

This is the danger of what we are doping here, on KT...
The risk of attracting desperate, needy, minds looking for quick, easy solutions, to personal issues.
The temptation of using them to crate a movement, for gains, is always something to resist.

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PostSubject: Re: Postmodernity Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:10 pm

Post-Modernism...
Anti-realism - rejection of objective reality.
Skepticism - Narratives - we can create our own reality using symbols/words.Where God is dead, the absolute is absent, man is his own creator, his own god...and the word of god is what constructs the real.
Nurturing dominates....nothing is inherited, memory in the form of DNA is forgotten, is lost, erased.
Because nurturing trumps nature it follows that you can nurture yourself into any form you desire.
This is the empowering delusion.
Language no longer refers to natural order but to internal order....you are the world.
But you cannot be a world because despite your beliefs you are not independent and not omnipotent (lacks power), so you need others to validate this delusion....so humanity is the world
World = Humanity
Each living in his own world.  
Supporting others who are living in their own private world.
Each private reality is equal to any other.

Post-Modernists are neo-Marxists, or crypto-Marxists, and Marxists are crypto-Abrahamics.....Abrahamic nihilistic spirituality minus God, and with a renaming of Abrahamic categories.

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PostSubject: Re: Postmodernity Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:26 pm



There is no truth, so we judge a narrative (judgment) by how "interesting" it is....I would say by how pleasing it is.
Pleasure becomes a determiner of what is higher.
How interesting it is, how it can angage me and tickle me, trigger me.....determines its 'truth'.....so seduction is a factor.

Group membership means no more us/them but we are all us, or all them...no conflict.
Uniformity in absolute one or absolute nil.
I've called this pure or honest Nihilism and 'positive' deceptive Nihilism...i would also add romantic idealistic to characterize it.
It projects the idea as a fact, independent from reality.
Noumenon usurps phenomenon...and no longer needs to refer to it. Noumenon, the mental abstraction replaces appearance, what is made present...sum of all past.
Past is irrelevant, evil....all is immediate, present....no past. The mind construct reality continuously out of nothingness or out of its own pleasures, its own passions.
Nothing is determined. Man is absolutely free...we see this idealism in Sartre as well.  
Man is so free he becomes nauseated by the vertigo...and, of course, Sartre was a communist.
Marxism is a recovering Abrahamic....a mind that has overcome Abrahamic mysticism and superposition....its infantile narratives.

Philosophy is not about world but it is political, it is about humanity and how to control the masses.
Humanity is World.

World is God....Humanity is God.
Paradise is brought down to earth....but not quite. It becomes Utopia....no longer in the 'beyond' after death, but in the forever imminent future....  
Abrahamism proposes a life after death and peace in Paradise, and Marxism proposes it is a forever coming Utopia.
Time, future, replaces beyond time.



Truth becomes power...not the potential for it but its automatic acquisition.
Truth = power becomes power = truth.
Truth is whatever the powerful say it is...and not to see truth offers you power over those who cannot see it.
Truth is a fabrication not a discovery.....so if you can create truth then you can only do so using symbols/words - logos.  
Language = magic.
Using language to manipulate the world, which means humanity, you can construct your own reality....and, by discrediting language you can also erase reality.
Language is central in Nihilism.  
It is a memetic virus, a mental parasite that is transferred from mind to mind through semiotics.


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PostSubject: Re: Postmodernity Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:45 pm

Now we can pinpoint the seductive power, the meaning of power itself in the mind of a nihilist, or a post-modernist.
Power = language

How do we gain power? We linguistically declare it.
How do we apply it? We  use it to manipulate and exploit others minds - language to control.
We do so my fabricating a linguistic alternate reality that is appealing, pleasing, empowering.
How do we change reality? We change the definition of it in the minds of others.
We begin by detaching the mind from its empirical, sensual connections. We prepare the mind for manipulation.
Words are made meaningless.....so what does man/woman mean? Whatever pleases us.

We can construct our own reality using language, and by manipulating others...because world = humanity.
We cannot control world using words, but we can control or influence other minds who can understand our language.
Language triggering specific feelings, concepts, imagery, sensations.
Will to power is this....to transmit your jargon in as many minds as possible.
By doing so you've transmitted your reality....you are their god.
Your will usurps theirs. They exist in your reality.
What is perceived is ignored, or selectively integrated into the pre-existing world-view.
You can never be wrong....never in error, because you make up the rules, and you define truth in whatever way you like.
Everything you see, experience....everything that happens validates this truth.

See how seductive this delusion is?

Not a philosophy but a psychological method of self-pleasuring, of self-gratifying.
All is subjective....so you can invent your own variant, as there is no reality to contradict it.

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PostSubject: Re: Postmodernity Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:42 am



A movement away from European male way of thinking.
Post-Modernism is an attack on European masculinity.
The scientific method, empiricism and so on are replaced with more feminine and more primitive, emotive ways of 'reasoning'.
This is where romanticism fits.  

The body is more honest and wise, but it has no ability to think, so it sends its data to the mind as sensations.
But sensations are vague and can be misinterpreted.
The mind processes them by drawing from its interactions with world and its abstractions....it then attempts to rationalize the body's sensations.
At this point interpretation becomes subjective, and can be corrupted by ego.

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PostSubject: Re: Postmodernity Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:52 am

Thinking is emasculated, feminized...emotions, sensations, feelings replace reasoning.
Vagueness, insinuations, romantic language, triggering sensations, feelings, intuition, superstition all come to the forefront and replace scientific methodology and empiricism.

Clarity, consciousness are violent, a force of discrimination. All must remain cloudy, hazy to be approached using feelings where all merge in esoteric dimness.
Nothing is known, everything is felt.
Nothing is understood, everything is innuendo, prose...abstract art, nonsensical noise, hiding something profound, something deep, hiding the divine.

Vagueness, artistic innuendos, also offer an additional service the the romantic idealist.
If confronted positively, they can claim an agreement, but if confronted negatively they can claim an absence of comprehension.
Linguistic vagueness, non-conventional application of symbols/words, can serve to integrate even the misunderstanding, assimilating, attracting contradiction into its ambiguity, whereas it can repel a challenge based on this same claim, repulsing all challenges as lacking understanding.
The measure is faith....the correct attitude is one of submissiveness, a willingness to sacrifice will and reasoning to the ideal.
A wrong attitude shows faithlessness, an unwillingness to pay the price, and top submit to what offers so much or promises greater rewards for this minor sacrifice.

This is a typical trait of the Abrahamic psychology.

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PostSubject: Re: Postmodernity Mon Feb 19, 2018 9:55 am



Dennett exposes how post-moderns use convoluted language to appear more intelligent than they are, or as more profound than they are.
Simpletons hide their need for acknowledgement in linguistic bullshit.
Saad exposes what I've been saying about coveting the effect and wanting to imitate it.
The Modern is unable to attain greatness, of the social kind, because that's all they crave: social acknowledgement, appreciation, love, admiration.
They envy the icons they then try to imitate and 'surpass' by using linguistic trickery.
This is what is behind all this Nietzsche worship.

Lost men-children, falling in 'love' with an icon that tells them things their fathers cannot or did not.
The absence of traditions makes such figures dominate.
In the romantic metaphorical jargon they do not see the meaning but the method....and method can be imitated.
Using language ([You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]) is non-conventional ways and then justifying this application using rebelliousness, esoteric justifications, more convoluted jargon is an easy way to pretend you are like the icon you admire and were impressed by.
A 'son trying to emulate a father-figure' missing from his real life or not being satisfying to his emotional needs'. Rebelliousness or a revolt against conventions, can be a cry for attention. Boys trying to receive their father's attention by rebelling against him as a representative of a heritage, an inheritance.

In general such men-children will show a similar 'bro-matic' tendency towards all their relationships with the masculine. Attraction to clannish behaviour - gangs, cliques, that fill in for a non-gratifying or unflattering or absent family. Blood, genes, are replaced by ideas, memes.
They will use, almost erotic idealism to relate to other men.
They will become obsessed with certain 'masculine' icons/idols, dreaming of them, trying to emulate them, desiring to become a means towards their end, remaining trapped in their shadow; taking on the role of female, essentially. A female wants to know everything about the male she is attracted to - she calls it intimacy.
Ironically if she receives it it has a demystifying effect.
They will gush, and swoon, showering their idols with romantic, idealistic metaphors, hoping to gestate the seed this manly-man placed in their brain; dreaming of weening and raising it into something greater.
The idea becomes a bond to the master....like a child binds a female to the male that fertilized her. She ceases to belong to her bloodline, her father, and is now a member of a new branch.
Like all eros based on emotion, this can disappoint when the ideal, placed on a pedestal, fails to attain the real, or is continuously contradicted by the real
There's only so long that a love-stricken damsel can make excuses for her chosen one's inability to embody  her ideal.  
If the idol is dead, or is an abstraction the romantic idealist will continue to make excuses, because the idea can be redefined, spun into a new form in ways that a corporeal, real, phenomenon, like a living person, cannot.

A boy that loses his father when young grows with an idealistic view of his dead father. Nothing can be told to him, stories of his father's bad behaviour, and such, will suffice to break the magical spell of a missing father's ideal status in the mind of a boy.
For such a boy, or girl, all living men will be compared to that abstraction. Nobody could compare, nothing can replace the idol from his pedestal.
There's no real father, to overcome....so the boy remains stuck in adolescence.

Abrahamism presents the mind with such an unattainable father-figure, keeping it in a lifelong state of adolescent anxiety and immaturity.

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PostSubject: Re: Postmodernity Sat Mar 10, 2018 9:34 pm



Try reasoning with this ass-clown.
Molyneux tries....give him credit.

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PostSubject: Re: Postmodernity Wed Mar 14, 2018 6:22 pm

If things have been going the way in the past that they are going now then the Anglo has always been the tool and not the brains behind the Middle-Eastern shenanigans.

And, there will always be those proud Anglos who will tell you that they wanted it all, all along. Including up to modern UK with its cultural enrichment Pakistani grooming rape gangs.
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PostSubject: Re: Postmodernity Wed Mar 21, 2018 4:51 pm



Creating bullshit theories about nonsense, and then finding 'experts' or redefining existing intellectuals, in support of their ideologies.

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PostSubject: Re: Postmodernity Thu Mar 22, 2018 7:59 pm

r/ reproductive strategy, corresponding to herbivorous methods, crates a particular psychology.
It seeks to destroy the people it belongs to, so as to increase its own reproductive success.
It does not compete directly, openly, manly, but womanly, insidiously, by undermining those it cannot challenge directly.
Secrecy, the occult, is how it hides its intentions.
Linguistic gibberish, is how it hides its intentions.
Duplicity, is how it hides its intentions.
Imitation is how it hides itself....pretending to belong to the host it undermines, but never integrating into it....never becoming loyal to it.

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PostSubject: Re: Postmodernity Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:31 pm

Molyneux wonders, yes, this mouse utopia sucked, so how can we have this good utopia, the utopia that lasts forever.
-> Freedom - Individual freedom.
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PostSubject: Re: Postmodernity Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:33 pm

Our 'utopia' is perpetual war.

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PostSubject: Re: Postmodernity Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:45 pm

I looked at the date of the video because I couldn't believe that it was a recent one. I thought it had to be one from a few years ago.
Group identity is bad if you are living in an area with a dominant group that you don't really share an identity with. It would be strange if (((Molyneux) would not naturally gravitate towards individualism-preaching.
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PostSubject: Re: Postmodernity Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:57 pm

The reason why so many Canadians are prominent in these identity battles is because of the nature of Canada.
It has no unifying cultural identity.
Not even an abstraction, like the US who rally around this vague concept of 'freedom'.
Canada has nothing but language.
Living in Canada exposes you to a coming post-modern world. It's a United Nations nation.
You feel an alien...or at least I never felt that I belonged.
Everyone is both a member of a group and not a member of other groups, living in close proximity.
You can walk a block and bump into a dozen different nationalities. There are restaurants covering all cuisines.....festivals galore, each community flaunting its uniqueness.
It can be pleasant.....like travelling without going anywhere.
There is no culture, in the world, that is not represented in Canadian urban centres, like Toronto and Montreal.
Cultures that have no assimilated and remain distinct.
The ideals people gravitate towards are based on their desire to keep the thing going...whatever this 'thing' is.
Australia, New Zealand, all ex colonies that have developed an identity.
Not Canada.
It's only attempt to find an identity is as the nation of multiculturalism.
A multi-identity identity....multiple-personality disorder.

What's left but to turn inward?
Individualism is flourishing here...and not the American shallow kind.
A side-effect of this individualism is 'niceness'....the famous Canadian politeness.
'I will not tread on your individuality so that you will do the same'.
Self-repression to preserve fake harmony.
Canadians are introverted individualists.
So, of course a lot of insight will be produced from all this esotericism.
The climate helps. Long cold winters, where all you can do is stay indoors and brood, think, read, write, meditate.
The lifestyle that suits me.

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PostSubject: Re: Postmodernity Sat Apr 28, 2018 6:34 pm

I like this guy more than Peterson...


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PostSubject: Re: Postmodernity Sun Apr 29, 2018 8:14 pm

Separate the perspective from the world and you can reinterpret it in any way you desire.
It's all 'subjective' when the language has no objective standard, independent from all perspectives.
An entire tradition can be reinvented, intellectuals can be warped and turned inside out.  
When a theory has no reference to reality then its all a matter of intent - spin-doctoring, word juggling, takes over.
The reference shifts from outside to inside, and emotions, desire, need is the only criterion.

Every book ever written, or that will ever be written, can be converted to a manual supporting whatever you want it to.
Welcome to the magical world of words - matrices of code.
Word is God, God is word.
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PostSubject: Re: Postmodernity Sun Jun 03, 2018 4:27 pm



A gay Jew cannot defend free-speech, so what hope does a European hetero-male?
I want to know what poor sap will marry this 'strong, liberated' and well-edumucated female'....



I a priorily want to de facto want to know.

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PostSubject: Re: Postmodernity Thu Jul 05, 2018 8:11 am



We can include in the process...
How reality, challenging Abrahamic superstitions, made Marxism inevitable.

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