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PostSubject: Re: Private Maleness Tue Apr 22, 2014 7:18 pm

I have no slept with over 10 women in my life.
Should I feel embarrassed?

Then again....I never went for whores, or sluts.

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PostSubject: Re: Private Maleness Tue Apr 22, 2014 7:22 pm

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I have no slept with over 10 women in my life.
Should I feel embarrassed?

Then again....I never went for whores, or sluts.

Well no, it would be less nihilistic to choose specific women with the objective of creating a child.
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PostSubject: Re: Private Maleness Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:47 pm

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Green eyes are rare

Within the ''light'' eyed population, the green eyes are outnumbered by the blue eyes. Green eyes are dominant over the blue eye colour but there are only very few people that carry the genes responsible for green eyes. Only 1-2% of the entire human population have green eyes.


Green eyes and gender

Normally, you would expect a 50/50 gender variation between the eye colours (blue, brown), but scientist found a positive correlation between being a woman and having the green eye colour. Why green eyes are more found in women is still unknown and it is not certain a gender differentiation actually exist. The findings could be biased somehow.


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I appreciate your openness and honesty. But there is a reason why I specifically target the northern european, blonde beast, in terms of rarity, beauty, and privilege.
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PostSubject: Re: Private Maleness Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:52 pm

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A woman compares all her lovers to the previous ones. As long as her sexual power is on the rise, or her own perception of it is, she will be looking to trump the previous experiences. Usually she will have rising standards as long as she can successfully seduce men.

That's one argument why marrying a virgin has a higher chance of establishing a stable marriage - the woman does not consciously or at least sub-consciously compare the different qualities of her mate to outstanding single qualities of her previous lovers. A virgin may think, 'What if...' but a woman with past lovers has more certainty in her judgements and if any of her previous lovers is deemed to have been superior then there is the certain feeling of settling for sub-par.
And a man who doesn't commit to a woman always had the edge over other men, in telegraphing his supposedly superior worth. What isn't certain, has magic potential for the young in mind.

So, nope, if TWBB is the 12th lover for a beautiful promiscuous slut with options then he must be quite superior in his impression on her, compared to the 11 who came before - at least on par.

Now, when a woman is past her prime and the bitter settling phase of second or third best begins then that's a different story.

In this sense, the sense of experience and expectation, a woman can also be made into a promiscuous slut, in her mind, via ideas, no personal experience required.
Normally I would agree, except there are a couple of missed factors.

1. The female sexual goes down, not up, after she is penetrated. The more men who penetrate her vagina, the less objective value and worth she has. After a dozen men, how can she deny her slutty behavior? And what is the reason for excess men? Why did not the first man succeed in impregnating her? Is her sex purely hedonistic or procreative? Why does she fail having children? These simple questions symbolize simple consequences.

2. Is she dumping and abandoning the men she leaves behind, or they leaving her behind? Who is responsible for the dismantled relationship? If the female is "leaving" the male, then that is one thing. If the males are leaving her, then that is another. Again, choice.


I agree that women want to move "up" in quality of men. But you must recognize at the same time, her sexual value is heading down. She devalues herself with each "mistake". Whoops, an accident? She accidentally had sex with a dozen men, before it came TWBB's turn???

When I meet a woman, I usually tell right away whether she is a virgin or a slut. Although, some rarest females will surprise you. Some very rare females excel at hiding their behaviors, while others seem slutty, and are themselves chaste.
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PostSubject: Re: Private Maleness Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:55 pm

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"Most men have slept with over 20 women"
Bah ha ha!!!! I could have slept with that many guys over Spring Break week in Fort Lauderdale!

The truth is, men would love to be "promiscuious", but few get an opportunity to do so...unlike women, even a fat, ugly chick can pick up a guy quicker than a fat ugly guy ever would get a woman to go to bed with him".

Any "fatties" in this crowd?
Exactly

I have slept with 3 different women. I would judge these girls as slightly above average in appearance. One was asian, chinese. Another was celtic, mostly scottish and british ancestry. And then another mostly british ancestry.
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PostSubject: Re: Private Maleness Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:59 pm

I do believe that having sex for pleasure, although essential in life, is objectively a sign of impotence and perversion. Why aren't you having procreative sex?

The answer is responsibility and society. Society does not want almost all men reproducing with accord to the natural male desire. As this is an anti-civilization aspect of nature. The male nature is automatically barbarous and against civilization.

This is why catholicisim specifically advocates male chastity and forgoing sex completely, to never have sex with women. This is an artifice, the beginning of "civilization". It is not until male virility is impeded, curtailed, or castrated, that civilization first becomes possible.

This was created by græco-roman heritage, morality, and culture. Then it immediately morphed into the christian and jewish religions.

The male sexual nature is "bad", "Original Sin", while female nature is "good" and encouraged.
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PostSubject: Re: Private Maleness Wed Apr 23, 2014 12:25 am

I think women's promiscuity today, has a lot to do with Feminists.  They encourage women to compete with men in most or all aspects of life, sex included.  The consequences of such is that men today, don't need to commit and women are left to wonder why.

A woman of worth knows that her body is a temple and she should make the man work hard and commit, in order to bed her.
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PostSubject: Re: Private Maleness Wed Apr 23, 2014 12:49 am

Incorrect again,

Hedonistic sex, using condoms, contraceptives, or abortion, has zero value. It has no value since it is literally, actually, fruitless. So whose interest is it, truly, to have hedonistic sex, more in the interest of a male, or a female?

If a woman has already been fucked by a dozen men, then why would a 13th man want anything to do with her, when she's "that easy"? Does he have discriminating, evolved, sophisticated tastes? Is he proud of becoming her "13th" try?

What is the relationship between fruitless sex, and procreation, except virility and potency?

Remember reasonvemotion did not have a child from her first sexual encounter. Keep this in mind, don't forget. How many men did reasonvemotion go through, before having her first child? How many times did she subtract from her objective sexual worth?


Is a new BMW the same after it has been driven 20 thousand miles? Does it have the same value or does it not depreciate?

Do women, also, depreciate with time and wear and use?

How many other people do you want driving your car, do you leave the keys in the ignition everyday, every night? Is your car free to use for the public? What happens when you lend your car out to everybody? Why is there puke stains in the seats and it reeks of feces???
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PostSubject: Re: Private Maleness Wed Apr 23, 2014 1:12 am

Sigh, oh dear........

There are many assumptions in your reply, as you blindly grope through the smoke of your words, which, after all, only proves that your behavior at times is theatrical, (to say the least), but which can of course be considered, (so excused) to be the manifestation of a neurotic streak.

Nevertheless, I wish you well.

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PostSubject: Re: Private Maleness Wed Apr 23, 2014 1:41 am

You see,

I never had the proper type of guidance in my childhood and adolescence. I wasn't educated as to the perverse nature of having sex, without procreating. I was induced with liberal lies and cultural marxism. Have sex for the sake of pleasure, what's the big deal? So the first time I had sex, I used a condom. Why not? Wasn't it perverse of me?

Of course it was. But I didn't know any better, being young and ignorant. I suspect that you, reasonemotion, have a similar background. Young boys and girls groping around naked bodies we don't know what we're doing.

We weren't taught that there is a consequence and purpose for sex. It didn't evolve nor happen "just because". The pleasure surrounding sex is no "accident" nor coincidence. It's not random, not chance.

There is reason behind it all, if you care to look. But you don't. You prefer remaining blind. Just don't think that I'm going to forgive you for your blindness, should you dare enter into my thread. My threads investigate truth, philosophically. If you can't handle it, then maybe a different forum, like ILP is a better fit for you.

Not all of my threads and words are pleasant, for the sake of pleasure. Although that's what you crave, isn't it?

Your mind does not think outside the boundary of pleasure, does it?
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PostSubject: Re: Private Maleness Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:34 am

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I agree that women want to move "up" in quality of men. But you must recognize at the same time, her sexual value is heading down. She devalues herself with each "mistake". Whoops, an accident? She accidentally had sex with a dozen men, before it came TWBB's turn???

There is something to that. In a small village, the reputation of a woman can rather easily get tarnished but there are certain things in place today which mitigate that loss of attractiveness of a promiscuous woman. Her perceived value goes down, quite dramatically.

Today it is propagated that it's normal to be promiscuous as a woman, even desired in many circles. So on the conscious level a lot of men will buy into that standard and don't question it. This will not nullify their drop in interest but it will have an influence on them, depending on their temperament.

And the social environment has changed. It has become more fluid, not a small village but a big city. What does a man know about a woman? Does he interview past lovers? Are there any? He's mostly relying on what she's telling him about herself and usually, when it comes to a long-term prospect, all women are suddenly rather chaste in their own descriptions.

And most importantly, it's not the same, being told about ex-lovers, as in the past, when a man is already drunken on or in love, compared to soberly experiencing it and drawing conclusions from a distance. That's where big city life plays into the hands of a promiscuous woman. Her past usually only exists in her own tales.
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PostSubject: Re: Private Maleness Wed Apr 23, 2014 6:34 am

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How many other people do you want driving your car, do you leave the keys in the ignition everyday, every night? Is your car free to use for the public? What happens when you lend your car out to everybody? Why is there puke stains in the seats and it reeks of feces???

If you can't flip a woman's car hood up and find out what makes the engine run then she is going to go to another grease monkey who can.

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PostSubject: Re: Private Maleness Wed Apr 23, 2014 10:55 am

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I do believe that having sex for pleasure, although essential in life, is objectively a sign of impotence and perversion. Why aren't you having procreative sex?

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The answer is responsibility and society. Society does not want almost all men reproducing with accord to the natural male desire. As this is an anti-civilization aspect of nature. The male nature is automatically barbarous and against civilization.

This is why catholicisim specifically advocates male chastity and forgoing sex completely, to never have sex with women. This is an artifice, the beginning of "civilization". It is not until male virility is impeded, curtailed, or castrated, that civilization first becomes possible.

This was created by græco-roman heritage, morality, and culture. Then it immediately morphed into the christian and jewish religions.

The male sexual nature is "bad", "Original Sin", while female nature is "good" and encouraged.

So the rules for the plebs applies to the lawgiver; that's practically unheard of. But I think it's female not male sexual virtue which is the basis of civilization.

Elaborate on violence rather than sex. I've only been in one real fight a really long time ago. But me and my best friend for years used to literally beat eachother up bloody untill one gave up aprox every other week. I guess you could call it masterbation, but most do it in one form or the other, or enact massive effort to suppress it. This way was infinitely better than watching action flicks and such. The engagement is euphoric, and afterwards the urge becomes completley drained, providing equlibrium & focus for much thereafter.

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But there's two types. Lordship & magic; the knowledge of a large potential exertion of power and the actual novel experience of it in the moment.

I'm obviously the latter, so naturally attracted to the former. Now which kinds of girls in this modern age poses it? There's my explaination, and a clarification to your own psyche. Both are potentially equally respectable, as a said depends on the individual.

I think if all the violence, power in life is in totality deprived within the being then all energies become focused on this one idealized fetish which can either have a disastrous or epic outcome.

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You see,

I never had the proper type of guidance in my childhood and adolescence. I wasn't educated as to the perverse nature of having sex, without procreating. I was induced with liberal lies and cultural marxism. Have sex for the sake of pleasure, what's the big deal? So the first time I had sex, I used a condom. Why not? Wasn't it perverse of me?

Of course it was. But I didn't know any better, being young and ignorant. I suspect that you, reasonemotion, have a similar background. Young boys and girls groping around naked bodies we don't know what we're doing.

Is this real? Some of the whiniest shit I've ever heard. Is there really virtue in withstanding perversion, strife? I'd say there is in enduring it, making the most out of everything.

Indifference baby. It's the most underrated quality.

This is a harsh generation.

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The weak will not fare well. Nor should they I think.


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PostSubject: Re: Private Maleness Wed Apr 23, 2014 11:27 am

As a wee young lad I first saw Seven Brides for Seven Brothers.
I loved it.

Agon...the Hellenes figured it out.
Taking up space is an act of aggression. Breathing denies the oxygen to another. Eating denies the being eaten life, but it also denies it to another predator, as a possible source of nutrition.
We are fighting off infections and viruses continuously.

We forget, because we live in abundance, because there is plenty, if we offer our services in return...giving of what is not in abundance, our time.
Having been brought up in this exchange of time for resources, we surround ourselves with excess, to justify the loss, the cost.
We overindulge, and then we seek a new taste, because we've lost time in the effort to ensure the superfluous.

Then we become bored by the hypothetical, the easiness, this exchange which seems free, or not so costly.
We want a newer stimulation, something better, something different...yet no less dull, in time, because it too comes with ease.

How did Baudrillard put it?
Baudrillard, Jean wrote:
At the heart of pornography is sexuality haunted by its own disappearance.
The openness, ease, cheapness, a sign of its disappearing.
Baudrillard, Jean wrote:
At male strip shows, it is still the women that we watch, the audience of women and their eager faces. They are more obscene than if they were dancing naked themselves.
Obscenity in the sight of unconcealed hunger.
The masks are dropped, the creature revealed. Nature, as woman's lust - filtering focused.  

Baudrillard, Jean wrote:
The liberated man is not the one who is freed in his ideal reality, his inner truth, or his transparency; he is the man who changes spaces, who circulates, who changes sex, clothes, and habits according to fashion, rather than morality, and who changes opinions not as his conscience dictates but in response to opinion polls.
Urbanization, the reduction of reputation, non-karmic existence, the recycling, perpetual reinvention of self, requiring only a fee for the service.

Baudrillard, Jean wrote:
Doomed to our own image, our own identity, our own ―look, and having become our own object of care, desire and suffering, we have grown indifferent to everything else. And secretly desperate at that indifference, and envious of every form of passion, originality or destiny.
Any passion whatever is an affront to the general indifference. Anyone who, by his passion, unmasks how indifferent, pusillanimous or half-hearted you are, who, by the force of his presence of his suffering, unmasks how little reality you have, must be exterminated. There you have the other resuscitated, the enemy at last re-embodied, to be subjugated or destroyed.
The masks are purchased and put on, to be forgotten.

Shame at the prospect of dropping the pretenses, the outer garments covering the naked truth of who we are.
The other signals us with his dress, letting us know how he expects to be treated, so as to reciprocate in kind.

Fear of being seen as what we are.
Social personae being retained in a m0dern lifestyle.
The implied threat, never stated: "Do not uncover me, and I will not tar off your mask."
It's called civility, politeness, propriety.

The illusion that all perspectives matter.  

Baudrillard, Jean wrote:
America is the original version of modernity.
We are the dubbed or subtitled version.
America ducks the question of origins; it cultivates no origin or mythical authenticity; it has no past and no founding truth. Having known no primitive accumulation of time, it lives in a perpetual present.
Nihilism, the Judeo-Christian, turned secular humanist, annihilation of nature(past)

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PostSubject: Re: Private Maleness Wed Apr 23, 2014 12:38 pm

Ha, reasonemotion, your justifications and rationalizations are always humorous how you protect your dignity. It demonstrates your misplaced values. Although I obviously care about a woman's sexual past, so what? Didn't I say that sex for pleasure happens? Who cares? Turns out, everybody cares. Because a woman who has sex with many different men, this indicates something about her, doesn't it? And it also says something about the different men who frequent her.

Why would a woman reject men, and, close her legs to the world of men? Does she "value" herself by doing so? Is she "proud" of her prudishness? Prude is the feminine version of the concept Pride, did you know that? Why is a female proud of her virginity and lack of sexual experience, whereas males are the opposite? Seemingly simple questions, yet, when posed against the brilliant minds of ILP, or even here, strangely, queerly, people become defensive rather quickly. Predictably. Because males are supposed to feel shame in having few or no sexual partners, like I have 3. And females are supposed to feel shame in having more than one sexual partner. Why is this?

Many of you are not looking far enough into the past. Given the predominance of christianity in western culture, why would the average male feel guilty and ashamed of not having enough sex, while the average female feels guilt and shame of having too much sex?

The answer should be obvious. Many of you were infected with destructive, nihilistic, hateful, controlling, memes. The western culture is powerful, did you honestly convince yourselves that you escaped unscathed? How did you find yourself here? Easily? Or after much difficulty?

My background is a full dose of western liberal cultural values. Anti values.

What do I personally value? I don't know about you, men, but I want to have sex with a lot of beautiful, young, virgin girls. Why virgin instead of sluts? Because sluts come with baggage, emotional baggage. They've been fucked around by men, but, feel jaded and hateful about being dumped. Women are dumped. Women are abandoned, by men. And the sluts become hateful, ugly females, as a result of this.

Call it a personal preference. You are entitled to enjoy all the sluts you like. Just don't think you're going to convince me of your choices, judgments, and values.
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PostSubject: Re: Private Maleness Wed Apr 23, 2014 1:04 pm

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Why is most sex unfruitful in western society?  The answer should become obvious.

Because females are liberated / protected and simultaneously provided what it is they are after : stability. No need to give to her male peers (her tribe) in order to have her core desire satisfied. If females truly had a problem with this then they would have already, naturally, been subconsciously driven toward reversing it via the same system that made it all possible... the system would have to comply or face the consequences of having no support from either side. It starts with subjugation of the male - because it has to - ends with the female having priority. Now what are they opting to do with it? Right. It isn't merely control of the male, if that's what you were implying - it's more complicated than that... female choice (product of imposition upon majority of males, obviously by other males). The moment boys and girls are put to compulsory schooling, the boy is dominated / essentially experiencing emasculation / feminization (hence why boys loathe school), the female is content (because this is inherently collectivist and stability she is after), and as consequence, her perception / feeling of the value / utility of her male counterparts takes a nosedive... her eyes turn to the system, the beginning of "the system" as "her man" / the alpha, and reduction of male counterparts to little more than penises with legs. Abortion / the pill are other major steps in this direction. Trivialization / degradation.
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PostSubject: Re: Private Maleness Wed Apr 23, 2014 1:16 pm

Of course...as we know, every time a male has sex, he has full intentions of making a kid.
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PostSubject: Re: Private Maleness Wed Apr 23, 2014 1:24 pm

She must be pure, beautiful, intelligent, talented, and most importantly, love me as I am.
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PostSubject: Re: Private Maleness Wed Apr 23, 2014 1:29 pm

Some of us have children to comfort ourselves....so adoption is good enough.
Others have children to make them more than what they were.

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PostSubject: Re: Private Maleness Wed Apr 23, 2014 1:47 pm

Others don't have children, as they are not property.
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PostSubject: Re: Private Maleness Wed Apr 23, 2014 1:50 pm

Children are extensions of self.

That is why I would not adopt and raise some other fucks sperm and some degenerates ovum.
I would prefer to be alone.

Some have standards.

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PostSubject: Re: Private Maleness Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:15 pm

Sex and violence are intimately related, as the sex act itself, represents the penetration of the penis into the pussy. Blood is spilled as the cut is made, a wound, now a gap between her nubile, nimbly legs. She becomes a woman, an adult, after fucking. Because depending on where the male squirts his load, she risk pregnancy. She risks immediate impregnation. She risks childbirth. She can die, from sex.

This is something passed over in liberal western civilization today. Today, public schools try to avoid sex as much as possible. Simply "use a condom". Cripple yourselves males. The onus and responsibility for sex is on males, not females. But, females, use some contraceptive birth control pills, just in case. Who is responsible for pregnancy? Young boy? Young girl? No, neither. Nobody is responsible. Because responsibility is anathema to liberalism. Choice, but, without consequence? How does this work? Freedom without responsibility?

Sex....without pregnancy?

Liberalism promotes sex without consequences, as this furthers the symptoms of the current modern age, into the postmodern era.

Males are violent, not only because organisms naturally are violent, for example predatory animals. But males are violent in addition to becoming restricted to sex. Sex is a counterforce to violence. For example, look at the spree shooting phenomenon in the u.s. Most spree shooters or psychos, are males who are not getting laid, and probably never will. They are outcast from "the system", from society. Because society controls the pussy. Society dictates which males will reproduce, and which will not. This reinforces male disposability. Males are taught that "humans have rights and are born equal", but shocker, this is false. So many liberal boys will grow up, and not accept the truth. They've been lied to, for a lifetime. You were never born "equal", because, you have a penis.

You were born a liability, not an asset, to society. Because you are male. And it took you....how long, to learn this fact? And who did you learn it from, me? And where did I learn it from?


I mentioned the beginning of the catholic religion, and male chastity. Males are encouraged to become celibate as a means to offset violence and anti civilization forces. The essence of violence is the essence of sex. Therefore, the religious message of "peace on earth" and "harmonious existence" only make sense to males after realization of sexual suppression becomes obvious.

Within civilization males find value in suppressing themselves while females, conversely, have no need whatsoever to repress their sexual desires.

What is the product of this fact? Liberalism, a natural force, unleashes the female sexual desire. She becomes a slut, with little or no standards, and who, the fuck, cares? Some of you, like TWBB, even promote the female "slut". Bang a slut, and you favor her over a prude? But, why? Have you investigated the reasons? Do you have a standard for a female, or, beggars cannot become choosers?

There is a female suppression of sexuality, and I'll come to that later. It is valuable for civilization to control sexuality in both males and females. If females are given too much sexual power, then only certain types of males, and therefore certain types of genes, will reproduce from one generation to the next.

When liberalism dominates, females tend to have sex and reproduce most with criminals, rapists, murderers, and thieves. Those that society deems "bad", the "bad boy" factor. These males start reproducing in mass quantities, over the civil, polite, "nice guys" who get ousted from the gene pool.

Another symptom and result of liberalism.

This coincides with what lockland mentioned about public schooling and females congregating around "the system" as its alpha male, an abstraction.

Christianity without "god", atheism, but, all of the christian morals are still strong, dominant, and in play. Just different words and terms are used.

"Human rights" is another term for "All God's Children".


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Because females are liberated / protected and simultaneously provided what it is they are after : stability. No need to give to her male peers (her tribe) in order to have her core desire satisfied. If females truly had a problem with this then they would have already, naturally, been subconsciously driven toward reversing it via the same system that made it all possible... the system would have to comply or face the consequences of having no support from either side. It starts with subjugation of the male - because it has to - ends with the female having priority. Now what are they opting to do with it? Right. It isn't merely control of the male, if that's what you were implying - it's more complicated than that... female choice (product of imposition upon majority of males, obviously by other males). The moment boys and girls are put to compulsory schooling, the boy is dominated / essentially experiencing emasculation / feminization (hence why boys loathe school), the female is content (because this is inherently collectivist and stability she is after), and as consequence, her perception / feeling of the value / utility of her male counterparts takes a nosedive... her eyes turn to the system, the beginning of "the system" as "her man" / the alpha, and reduction of male counterparts to little more than penises with legs. Abortion / the pill are other major steps in this direction. Trivialization / degradation.
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PostSubject: Re: Private Maleness Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:44 pm

I'm going to make a preemptive argument real quick.

It is against nature for a male to suppress and repress his sexual desires. He wants to fuck, upon reaching adolescence. To not do so, or fail to do so, results in suppression. This eventually manifests into resentment. Young boys resent that they are disallowed to have sex, and eventually, disallowed to reproduce. Males are not supposed to reproduce except after submitting to the system. This is how socialism and nationalism, government first becomes possible. It is not until males are forced into commitment with the state, usually through brainwashing, that this crippling of the male sex drive is reversed, and males are "allowed" to reproduce. It is only after they are first castrated, that they can have sex.

This is liberalism, the impeding of male sexual desire.

Females? That's a whole other field to delve into. And my views on female sexuality is so insanely abstract and different, that I'm going to keep my opinions to myself. Most of you, or all, would deem me completely insane if you knew what I thought about female sexuality. So I won't tell anybody what I truly think, maybe ever. Maybe I'll write it in a book and bury it.


Female sexuality is nothing alike male sexuality. So you, as males, cannot gauge female sexuality as you would yourselves. For example, the average female has a mere fraction of sexual lust as the average male. Maybe 1/10th. The average female wants to have sex about 1/10th as much as a male wants it.

Also females enjoy sex due to the emotional connection, not the physical connection. Women really do not derive pleasure from being fucked by the penis repeatedly. Instead women enjoy the foreplay, the kissing, the sucking on nipples, the eroticism of sex. The emotion of sex, not the physicality of it. Males are focused on the physical, not the emotional.
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PostSubject: Re: Private Maleness Thu Apr 24, 2014 8:16 am

Satyr wrote:
As a wee young lad I first saw Seven Brides for Seven Brothers.
I loved it.

Agon...the Hellenes figured it out.
Taking up space is an act of aggression. Breathing denies the oxygen to another. Eating denies the being eaten life, but it also denies it to another predator, as a possible source of nutrition.
We are fighting off infections and viruses continuously.

We forget, because we live in abundance, because there is plenty, if we offer our services in return...giving of what is not in abundance, our time.
Having been brought up in this exchange of time for resources, we surround ourselves with excess, to justify the loss, the cost.
We overindulge, and then we seek a new taste, because we've lost time in the effort to ensure the superfluous.

Then we become bored by the hypothetical, the easiness, this exchange which seems free, or not so costly.
We want a newer stimulation, something better, something different...yet no less dull, in time, because it too comes with ease.

How did Baudrillard put it?
Baudrillard, Jean wrote:
At the heart of pornography is sexuality haunted by its own disappearance.
The openness, ease, cheapness, a sign of its disappearing.
Baudrillard, Jean wrote:
At male strip shows, it is still the women that we watch, the audience of women and their eager faces. They are more obscene than if they were dancing naked themselves.
Obscenity in the sight of unconcealed hunger.
The masks are dropped, the creature revealed. Nature, as woman's lust - filtering focused.

Baudrillard, Jean wrote:
The liberated man is not the one who is freed in his ideal reality, his inner truth, or his transparency; he is the man who changes spaces, who circulates, who changes sex, clothes, and habits according to fashion, rather than morality, and who changes opinions not as his conscience dictates but in response to opinion polls.
Urbanization, the reduction of reputation, non-karmic existence, the recycling, perpetual reinvention of self, requiring only a fee for the service.

Baudrillard, Jean wrote:
Doomed to our own image, our own identity, our own ―look, and having become our own object of care, desire and suffering, we have grown indifferent to everything else. And secretly desperate at that indifference, and envious of every form of passion, originality or destiny.
Any passion whatever is an affront to the general indifference. Anyone who, by his passion, unmasks how indifferent, pusillanimous or half-hearted you are, who, by the force of his presence of his suffering, unmasks how little reality you have, must be exterminated. There you have the other resuscitated, the enemy at last re-embodied, to be subjugated or destroyed.
The masks are purchased and put on, to be forgotten.

Shame at the prospect of dropping the pretenses, the outer garments covering the naked truth of who we are.
The other signals us with his dress, letting us know how he expects to be treated, so as to reciprocate in kind.

Fear of being seen as what we are.
Social personae being retained in a m0dern lifestyle.
The implied threat, never stated: "Do not uncover me, and I will not tar off your mask."
It's called civility, politeness, propriety.

The illusion that all perspectives matter.

Baudrillard, Jean wrote:
America is the original version of modernity.
We are the dubbed or subtitled version.
America ducks the question of origins; it cultivates no origin or mythical authenticity; it has no past and no founding truth. Having known no primitive accumulation of time, it lives in a perpetual present.
Nihilism, the Judeo-Christian, turned secular humanist, annihilation of nature(past)



I'm a product of the times, but I've been able to see a lot of the strings.





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But, why? Have you investigated the reasons?

I've explained 10 times, this is the last. Lets be honest here, power requires dirtiness, are virgins dirty???? Or are they as you like to say they are pure(very creepy).

I actually thought you meant have a virgin, but always assumed the other was possible and have already explained why its the case. I can't always tell who exactly the person is, but almost always know what they are trying to do. Reasonvemotion has been the most painful lately.

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So I won't tell anybody what I truly think, maybe ever.

No please do. You are an absolute pussy beyond widest belief if you don't.

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Maybe I'll write it in a book and bury it.

Before that ask this guy:

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PostSubject: Re: Private Maleness Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:54 am

Stay on topic, why is the desire to fuck a virgin "creepy", except that you find it detestable for yourself? In other words, you find it creepy because of what it would mean if you specifically wanted to do such. In even more words, you cannot imagine wanting "purity" or rarity, but instead, of consoled yourself to being a woman's 5th man or 10th, what do you care?

Because you have no standards. And you are one to talk about being a pussy? Does the modern pussy have standards? Doesn't she hide them with a mountain of lies, to cover her christian shame?

She wants to fuck one dominant male, but He is out of reach for her. She can't get His attention, no matter how hard she tries to give herself to Him. She flirts with Him, but He simply isn't interested in her. He already fucks more beautiful women than her. He already gets laid on a regular basis, with blondie blue eyes, thin young girls, tight twats. He is alpha. He doesn't give a shit about her. She has nothing to offer Him.

You see? So this pathetic pussy, goes to you, TWBB. You are her last choice, her final choice, her settling down mechanism. She didn't want you first. She wanted you last. And several other men, she chose before you. And she will choose again, should she find the opportunity.

And you find your "pride" in this? Yes, you have exposed yourself. What does a man have, and own in life, if not his pride?
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PostSubject: Re: Private Maleness Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:07 pm

No. I Find it respectable if done in the right way, for the right reasons. You just want to fuck virgins(multiple), that is.. Well.... I hope you never succeed. Have you tried rape?

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I watched it when I was really young. Got convinced to go the exact opposite direction.
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PostSubject: Re: Private Maleness Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:16 pm

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No. I Find it respectable if done in the right way, for the right reasons. You just want to fuck virgins(multiple), that is.. Well.... I hope you never succeed. Have you tried rape?

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I watched it when I was really young. Got convinced to go the exact opposite direction.
Ah, there it is! There is your insecurity!

So you watched a girl get raped? Was she a virgin?

What does rape have to do with virginity? I see now! You fear becoming a rapist, and you believe, falsely, that rapists are types of men who want to fuck virgins???

No, it is not rape to fuck virgins. But I understand your confusion now. There is a severe difference between the modern definition of rape, where a man must acquire female permission to have sex, first. And the classical, historical definition of rape, where a male had to acquire a virgin's father's permission to have sex, first. You see the difference?

In liberalism, you are supposed to ask the virgin for her virginity, and she must say yes first.

In classical history, conservatism and traditionalism, you were supposed to ask the father for his daughter's virginity.

You see the difference?!?!


So what moderns and liberals call "rape", I do not. I presume the second, traditional position. A female does not "own" her own virginity. Her father does.

This delves into the topic of sexuality and ownership, control of sex as a resource, and control over people as slavery. It begins the master slave dialectic.
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PostSubject: Re: Private Maleness Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:23 pm

I'm just saying it could be a last option. No? We don't live in that age. No blondes in Saudi Arabia.

You previously said I admit blindness here, and you're gonna come teach me the lesson? Outta your league baby,
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PostSubject: Re: Private Maleness Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:40 pm

Keep in mind there is no "rape" in nature.

Rape is an invention of civilization and society. Because females become owned assets within civilization. Humans are property. And especially female sex is a property, an asset, and is controlled and carefully maintained by the system. The system only allows certain males access to females, and especially sexual access to the youngest, most ignorant young females, girls, who are not fully inculcated by the memes of society.

Public school, like religion, are both forms of brainwashing. Females are more the target of this, than males are. Because it is easier to push males out of society completely, castrate or kill them, than it is to inject the full dose of slave mentality into young girls.

Rape is one of these primary factors. Only certain males are "rapists", others, strangely, are not. Do all males need to ask permission for sex? And, in school, which girls tend to have sex with which boys?

For example, a young teenage girl goes to a party with alcohol involved, after a local football game. Teenagers are drinking alcohol there, what is going to happen? The young teenage girl, a virgin, gets drunk and blacks out in a bedroom. Some football players, esteemed young boys, take turns fucking her while she's passed out. Is this rape? Why or why not?

And will the teenage boys get punished, if caught? How severely? Is a group of young football players the same crime as other males fucking her?

Or, are some males more forgivable for fucking, than others? Does the system want some types of males, and some types of females? What type?

Why do some "rapes" go unreported? Do females ever have "rape fantasies", what is this about?
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PostSubject: Re: Private Maleness Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:44 pm

The primary difference of western brainwashing is this.

Public schools teach young girls liberalism. Young girls are encouraged to use birth control pills and abortions. Young boys are encouraged to use condoms. This is how public schools reflect liberal sexual mores.

In churches and christianity in general, young girls are instructed to abstain completely, not have sex at all. And if they will have sex, then to get married first. Boys are also instructed the same way.

So this is the difference between liberalism and conservatism with regard to sexuality and virginity. In conservative circles, the father of the daughter, has control and responsibility over the girl's virginity. In liberal circles, the girl is responsible herself for her virginity and loss thereof. Liberals must blame the female, ultimately, because she "chooses" to have sex.

This becomes ambiguous in many cases though, reflecting the underlying fact, that "rape" is a human, civil contrivance.

Once you realize that humans are animals, not "human", then everything makes immediate sense. Loss of virginity is a symbol of natural reproduction.
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PostSubject: Re: Private Maleness Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:45 pm

What the fuck. Is this real???? If it is.. Like I don't want to give you any kind of ideas. Need a clean conscience to sleep like a baby.
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PostSubject: Re: Private Maleness Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:46 pm

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Do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it.
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PostSubject: Re: Private Maleness Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:49 pm

Worry about your own dirty conscience.

Western forms of guilt and shame do not apply to me.
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PostSubject: Re: Private Maleness Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:50 pm

Do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it.
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PostSubject: Re: Private Maleness Thu Apr 24, 2014 1:16 pm

Imagine this motherfucker raping somebody's kid. I would literally tourture you to death.

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PostSubject: Re: Private Maleness Thu Apr 24, 2014 2:18 pm

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Imagine this motherfucker raping somebody's kid. I would literally tourture you to death.

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You sound like a good christian, keeping the world clean of rapists, bad guys, and evil people.

Talk more about your morals and religious beliefs.
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PostSubject: Precaution Thu Apr 24, 2014 2:25 pm

I almost forgot the mandatory warning.

Remember folks, when dealing with liberals, you must be careful about expressing reality to these types. For example, if we claim that some people are more intelligent than others, and that higher intelligence is a sign of superiority, or that a human is "above" or "superior than" a dog, in terms of intelligence, that we are not advocating the hatred, mistreatment, and dishonor of dogs. We are not advocating that dogs should be beaten or "don't deserve love".

Similarly, when I claim "rape does not exist in nature", this does not mean that I advocate rape, or promote it. I do not, but, it doesn't really matter, does it? Why do I care what humanity does? Do I have a stake in humanity, civilization? Have I sewn my seeds in humanity? No. It doesn't concern me. I honestly don't care if some stupid liberal bitch gets raped, or not, maybe she lives happily ever after.

It does not affect me directly, therefore, I don't give a shit.

Liberals like TWBB eventually, manage to expose their underlying thoughts. Their morals, beliefs, faith. Rape is "bad", evil even. But to whom? And for whom?

This is still a philosophy forum, is it not, a more refined one at that? Therefore, we must ask and answer these simple questions. If TWBB manages to ignore them, then all will see TWBB for what he is.

A typical liberal. What he deems "rape", is a man having sex with a woman without her explicit permission. If she is passed out drunk, blacks out in a party, and she gets her pants unzipped and panties tugged down, and some random douchebag fucks her, then such is rape. Because she did not say yes.

This is his rule system, his law, his morality. Where did he inherit this morality from? Does he care to dig deeper?
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PostSubject: Re: Private Maleness Thu Apr 24, 2014 2:35 pm

Lord help us all.
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PostSubject: Re: Private Maleness Thu Apr 24, 2014 4:06 pm


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Similarly, when I claim "rape does not exist in nature", this does not mean that I advocate rape, or promote it.

Interesting, so if there is no rape in nature, would you say that there is no rape at all? Or do you mean that there is rape only occurring within human interaction, or is it a social construct?

Or what does the word rape describe?
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PostSubject: Re: Private Maleness Thu Apr 24, 2014 4:06 pm

I will remember to write a disclaimer when talking about human intelligence and sexuality.

These are the two liberal taboos, are they not?
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