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PostSubject: Re: Private Maleness Sun Apr 20, 2014 6:49 am

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You are compensating for obvious reasons.

Compensation? This coming from someone with countless sock accounts all over the Internet, including on his own message board, who's made countless thousands of comments and posts, many of which exceptional in length. No compensating there (!). We're well aware of the relationship between knowledge and power. Do I need to explicate further from here? We all make certain concessions / admissions simply by being in such a place, the only question left is that of degree. You being the exceptional one, I rest my case.

More lame, pretentious dismissiveness incoming...
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PostSubject: Re: Private Maleness Sun Apr 20, 2014 6:56 am

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It's funny because contempt for women seems inherently feminine.

Contempt is a seething, scorned woman.
A man whose feminine aspect feels scorned will show contempt. This reinforces his femininity which in turn will make the female show even more contempt.
A woman who shows contempt shows her femininity which makes her rather more attractive to the masculine aspect of the male.

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How much a Godess can give you.

Gods have the attributes we ascribe to them. Man who deifies a woman, attributes something of himself to her. Love is blind and sees what it wants to see.
But beware - Nature has its own rhythm - one can play music with that instrument but one must play each instrument in its own way.
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PostSubject: Re: Private Maleness Sun Apr 20, 2014 7:05 am

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Schopenhauer stated "Men are by nature merely indifferent to one another; but women are by nature enemies."

Thanks for showing your lack of indifference to us and our commentary. Looking forward to more from you and your 400+ posts of non-indifference.
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PostSubject: Re: Private Maleness Sun Apr 20, 2014 7:08 am

ThAt's fucking Feminine BRo!!! What the Fuck!?!?!?!?
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PostSubject: Re: Private Maleness Sun Apr 20, 2014 7:14 am

There Will Be Blood wrote:
ThAt's fucking Feminine BRo!!! What the Fuck!?!?!?!?

Why mock your own stupid idea? Anyway, I'll be waiting for your reply Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Private Maleness Sun Apr 20, 2014 7:24 am

So many misunderstandings. Find it all for your self young padawan. This is not the time for subsidising .....? Dunno.. Something. It escapes the mind.
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PostSubject: Re: Private Maleness Sun Apr 20, 2014 7:31 am

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So many misunderstandings. Find it all for your self young padawan. This is not the time for subsidising .....? Dunno.. Something. It escapes the mind.

So many? How many, exactly, because this sounds epidemic, and please point all of them out. Could it have been due to their (your comments) irrelevance or ambiguity? Now back to the bigger matter of you continuing to outright contradict yourself, nor answering my initial question.
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PostSubject: Re: Private Maleness Sun Apr 20, 2014 7:44 am

Well I know what you are talking about. At least going by my interpertation of where it's coming from -- I can say we are not even remotly on the same foothold at the moment. If you lack the humility to reinterpret, guess how it was intended, then I likewise lack the effort to go into any sort of analytical detail.

Never contradicted. All in your mind buddy.
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PostSubject: Re: Private Maleness Sun Apr 20, 2014 8:10 am

"pretentious superiority" who the fuck cares? Say something grounded within the topic, or start some other topic and make some noteworthy remarks. That be kinda what I mean by foothold. I don't care about the actual you, it's more exploring interesting spheres. That is what it's about no?

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PostSubject: Re: Private Maleness Sun Apr 20, 2014 8:11 am

hmmmm deleted it......
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PostSubject: Re: Private Maleness Sun Apr 20, 2014 8:25 am

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hmmmm deleted it......

You mean this?

"I can say we are not even remotly on the same foothold at the moment."

Foothold? Not sure what you mean. Seems a pretty hollow remark to me.

"If you lack the humility to reinterpret"

Reinterpretation won't necessarily solve the problem. It's not one's job to work through the (now not denied) ambiguity of others. That's just some passive-aggressive control-e shit.

", guess how it was intended, then I likewise lack the effort to go into any sort of detail."

Ya, not my job to keep guessing what someone's ambiguous crap remarks mean til I get it "right". And that's a nice way for the one posting crap to flip the meaning of his crap whenever, to his benefit.

Keep on with the pretentious superiority and engaging whilst simultaneously acting dismissive, thereby exposing more pretentiousness / self-contradiction.


Moving along...

"Say something grounded within the topic"

Already have. In what way is your insinuation of misogyny, or misogyny in general for that matter, grounded within the topic?

"I don't care about the actual you, it's more exploring interesting spheres. That is what it's about no?"

I don't know because I don't know the meaning of exploring interesting spheres. I don't see how you implying that one hates women = exploring interesting spheres. Seems like you want your cake and to eat it too, and have the integrity of a crack whore, amongst other fun things.
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PostSubject: Re: Private Maleness Sun Apr 20, 2014 8:33 am

If it's not interesting then why enage it?

Now that's fucking interesting.

Tell me more. Why delete? And now post back?

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PostSubject: Re: Private Maleness Sun Apr 20, 2014 8:46 am

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If it's not interesting then why enage it?

Now that's fucking interesting.

Nowhere did I state that this "it" isn't interesting.

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Tell me more. Why delete? And now post back?

Because I didn't want to anticipate anymore replies at that time, because I ate late, exercised late, and as a consequence got up at least a solid 2 hours earlier than usual and have rather limited energy. I meant to delete it and take a break before you started your reply.
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PostSubject: Re: Private Maleness Sun Apr 20, 2014 8:50 am

ya, ya ,ya. I call bullshit. But I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. Bring me more baby.
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PostSubject: Re: Private Maleness Sun Apr 20, 2014 9:07 am

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ya, ya ,ya. I call bullshit. But I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. Bring me more baby.

Ya, I got up at like 5 AM just to post on this message board. Lol!

There, baby:
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All better now? He's a happy boy! That's for sure!
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PostSubject: Re: Private Maleness Sun Apr 20, 2014 9:10 am

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PostSubject: Re: Private Maleness Sun Apr 20, 2014 9:29 am

I was thinking those who remain defensive whilst anonymous are either self-deceiving or trolling, sometimes both. Only possible ends I suppose. Wisdom.
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PostSubject: Re: Private Maleness Sun Apr 20, 2014 10:13 am

Wanted to let you know that claims are not arguments and that even if any of your charges were true that they would not necessarily have any bearing on the validity / correctness / whatever of ones ideas / observations.

Also, "troll" is the new "racist". I could reasonably call you a troll for that "misogyny" / "you're both products" comment, probably some others too.

"Only possible ends I suppose."

Yes, a false dichotomy is the only possible ends. And you follow this with the bolded one-word sentence of "Wisdom." Classic. Thanks, man.
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PostSubject: Re: Private Maleness Sun Apr 20, 2014 10:23 am

Well the claim is for the sake of argument.


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PostSubject: Re: Private Maleness Sun Apr 20, 2014 10:27 am

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Well the claim is for the sake of argument.

Edit: Never mind since there's nothing I need to respond to.


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PostSubject: Re: Private Maleness Sun Apr 20, 2014 10:28 am

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Yes, a false dichotomy is the only possible ends. And you follow this with the bolded one-word sentence of "Wisdom." Classic. Thanks, man.



The sake of the argument is not the (an) argument. Christ..

Wait.. so that was a indirect, unconscious admission of defensiveness? I'm either crazy or a genius. You decide.
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PostSubject: Re: Private Maleness Sun Apr 20, 2014 10:40 am

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Edit: Never mind since there's nothing I need to respond to.

Respond to my mail.
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PostSubject: Re: Private Maleness Sun Apr 20, 2014 1:24 pm

There Will Be Blood wrote:
You are both just products of the feminized western society which happens to be the most misogynistic of all time.
Schopenhauer stated "Men are by nature merely indifferent to one another; but women are by nature enemies."
*EDIT* Thomas Hobbes had the superior political theory. All is at war, enemies, with all. It is not just women against women.

Truth is men against men, men against women, women against men, women against women. All is Agon. All is conflict. All is at war. Peace is balance between "equal" quantities of force, as two momentous forces push against each other and stand still.


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You got it reversed. Women identify as a collective, men as individuals. For men to appeal to women they must do so to some kind of collective, often that of lesser women. For women to appeal to men they must offer a distinction, something not of the collective, an appeal to individuality.

I could go on, but what's the point. See how smart and non-emotionally stunted I am?
No, I admit blindness here. Show me more, show me that you can follow the conversation and contribute, or if you choose to take away, detract, and negate, and argue for the sake of arguing as lockland does, then at the very least do it well.

If nature is a war of All against All, then how does this apply to the male and female genders respectively? Isn't femininity a cooperative survival strategy? This puts "enemies" closer together. Females wage a different type of war than males, a covert war. Females excel at covert warfare, males at overt, physically obvious warfare. Males kill others with machine guns and bombs. Females kill others with words, and lies hiding kind, "innocent" gestures.

Love is the female's most dangerous, and favorite, weapon.
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PostSubject: Re: Private Maleness Sun Apr 20, 2014 7:53 pm



"Love is the female's most dangerous, and favorite, weapon"

Indeed.


"The predatory female never loves a man, she only loves the love and yes, there is more than one type of woman.

"As a male if you haven’t mastered the art of your own company you are most surely not close to any kind of alpha male".
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PostSubject: Re: Private Maleness Sun Apr 20, 2014 8:09 pm

Is this your motivation, you are seeking your "alpha male"?

Didn't you already cross His path? Who did you give your virginity to? Who were you abandoned for?

Haven't you already given your body, mind, soul, completely, to Him?
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PostSubject: Female Virginity Sun Apr 20, 2014 8:21 pm

Once a young girl's hymen is penetrated, and blood drawn, does she get her virginity back, ever, within her lifetime?

Or isn't her virginity only once lost? She gives herself, her body, to her Man. Her first man is also her most powerful memory. All females demonstrate loyalty and love, through giving her body to her Man. This is all she truly owns in life. This is all she truly has as an asset. All other goods, forms of wealth, companionship, are lesser values. Because giving her body, her virginity, as her gift, is only once given, never twice. She never offers herself, whole, after her first sexual experience.

And what is the nature of sex? Is she not offering her womb, her deepest sense of privacy?

I've been around a lot. I've learned a lot. I know a lot. I've never heard these statements refuted or disputed. Females only give away their privacy just once, and after that, there is little or nothing "private" about a woman. That she has not already shared with other men. Willingly. Her first man, whether she chooses him or not, maybe she is authentically raped and overpowered by a man, but so what? Who cares? The loss of her virginity need not be her "choice". Because it doesn't matter to nature.

Once your privacy is lost, as a female, it's gone for good. You do not get it back.

This is where the average western woman draws resentment. She hates nature, her own nature. She hates femininity. She hates her body. She hates truth. She hates the fact that the man she may have wanted first and foremost, is now lost to her, as she is devalued. She gave her sex away, too freely, too cheaply, and now she suffers consequences by attempting to give herself away again, a final time.

Is this woman worth fighting for? Is this woman worth dying for? For a male without pride, the average western man, maybe, probably. She's still beautiful, just, frequently used. But what is the cost of pride? Can a man feel proud of himself for his blonde, blue eyed, yet very, very promiscuous wife? Is there pride found in this?

Would you fight for her? Would you accept her loss of privacy, and the jaded personality, and the resentment that comes with it?

Would you accept the emotional baggage, pettiness, and vindictiveness?
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PostSubject: Re: Private Maleness Sun Apr 20, 2014 8:53 pm

Once a young girl's hymen is penetrated, and blood drawn, does she get her virginity back, ever, within her lifetime?

Or isn't her virginity only once lost? She gives herself, her body, to her Man. Her first man is also her most powerful memory. All females demonstrate loyalty and love, through giving her body to her Man. This is all she truly owns in life. This is all she truly has as an asset. All other goods, forms of wealth, companionship, are lesser values. Because giving her body, her virginity, as her gift, is only once given, never twice. She never offers herself, whole, after her first sexual experience

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Virginity is lost once, to both a boy and a girl, because this is what they are, children, an age where deep contemplation very rarely accompanies the physical act. Strong sexual urges and curiousity abound and propel.  My memory of the "first" pales by comparison to the first time with the man I married, (and eventually divorced).  It was overwhelming powerful, there were no restrictions on the union, I could give him everything he wanted, including a child.

"Is this woman worth fighting for"

There is no fight if there is love and your emphasis and exclusivity on the "act" detracts from the spiritual aspects that can also be captured by some.

You may in time experience this.
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PostSubject: Re: Private Maleness Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:00 pm

I'd reframe it a bit.

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Love is the female's most dangerous, and favorite, weapon.

Well all weapons are just tools. The question is who is really using what against who, with what intent, what effect, and who pulls the last trigger.

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nature is a war of All against All

Life is the revolt against the repetitive processes of the universe. There it is!!!!

Symbiotic relationships are the most effective, consider ants as the most succesful species ever. Parasitical ones are the most progressive. One always outways the other, then the other must compensate untill it has the upper hand, and so on it goes.

If the pendulum would swing to hard in either way then the organisms superstructure began to crumble. This applies to every imaginable scale of the matter.

All I'm suggesting is seeking primary refuge in the other, and primary war in the self would provide the most style, harmony, beauty, etc there on to.

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This puts "enemies" closer together.

It's in regards to a social dynamic. Why do women gossip whilst men in some form or another have what we call a Bro Code?



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Of course the world is against you. That's what it's for.


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PostSubject: Re: Private Maleness Mon Apr 21, 2014 2:00 am

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Virginity is lost once, to both a boy and a girl,
Incorrect, a male does not have a hymen to rupture and hemorrhage. This topic is male privacy. The male body is never penetrated as a female body is. Classically, the very concept of "virginity" only relates to females, never males.

It is only after "humanism" is introduced, and sex becomes "equal", that people like you believe there is such a thing as "male virginity". There is no such thing, except to refer to childhood before sexual experiences occur. Even this distinction is dubious. Because a male ejaculating with a boner, his first time, is still not the same as a female's first sexual experience.


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because this is what they are, children,
Children are not equal.


reasonvemotion wrote:
an age where deep contemplation very rarely accompanies the physical act. Strong sexual urges and curiousity abound and propel.  My memory of the "first" pales by comparison to the first time with the man I married, (and eventually divorced).  It was overwhelming powerful, there were no restrictions on the union, I could give him everything he wanted, including a child.
Then it is a "coincidence" he didn't want your virginity.

And it is also a "coincidence" that the time you lost your virginity, that you did not become pregnant, did you?


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"Is this woman worth fighting for"

There is no fight if there is love and your emphasis and exclusivity on the "act" detracts from the spiritual aspects that can also be captured by some.

You may in time experience this.
I may already have, but now, demand something more profound and potent. Something purified and rare.

Not all females are worth competing for. Very few are. And some females I personally say are worth fighting for, are virgin and untapped. Innocent. They have not been "had" by other men yet.
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PostSubject: Re: Private Maleness Mon Apr 21, 2014 2:02 am

There Will Be Blood wrote:
I'd reframe it a bit.
Life is the revolt against the repetitive processes of the universe. There it is!!!!
Excellent work...Thomas Hobbes deserves his credit.

I agree with your thought about resistance against repetition. This is resistance against the ideal of Eternal Recurrence of the same.
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