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PostSubject: Re: Life & Death (II) - Love and Compassion Tue May 27, 2014 4:55 pm

I've already saved myself.

I am free and happy.

What about your son, wise Satyr?
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PostSubject: Re: Life & Death (II) - Love and Compassion Tue May 27, 2014 4:58 pm

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I've already saved myself.

I am free and happy.

What about your son, wise Satyr?
In fifteen minutes I will pick him up...and I will belittle him, call him worthless, slap him around a bit...
Then I'm going to tell him he will amount to a nothing. I will never hug and kiss him, and say anything positive to him about him.

He will grow up like you.
I hope he is as strong as you are, to get through the abuse I am going to make him endure.

Get lost you imbecile.
Save yourself from your effete gullibility, you schmuck.

Contact Mooooo to discuss how depraved I am, you mindless buffoon.

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PostSubject: Re: Life & Death (II) - Love and Compassion Tue May 27, 2014 5:05 pm

Oh, what's that wise Satyr?

A chink in your armor? Is this what you're resorting to?

You can't say how your son is, can you?

You can be sarcastic, in your nature of denial, but you can't say he's healthy with any conviction in it.
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PostSubject: Re: Life & Death (II) - Love and Compassion Tue May 27, 2014 5:10 pm

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You can't say how your son is, can you?

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No....no...you caught me.
I've been abusing the boy.

I hate him.


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PostSubject: Re: Life & Death (II) - Love and Compassion Tue May 27, 2014 5:14 pm


This Schmoe guy is particularly dumb.

I simply had to interject that observation.
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PostSubject: Re: Life & Death (II) - Love and Compassion Tue May 27, 2014 5:49 pm

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This Schmoe guy is particularly dumb.

I simply had to interject that observation.
But he did expose me as a child-abuser, no?

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PostSubject: Re: Life & Death (II) - Love and Compassion Tue May 27, 2014 5:50 pm

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The reason why I came here is because I feel sorry for Satyr, even more so his child.

I really can't tell, whether he actually believes that line himself or if it's just a display of malice.
Either way it's twisted.
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PostSubject: Re: Life & Death (II) - Love and Compassion Tue May 27, 2014 6:09 pm

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The reason why I came here is because I feel sorry for Satyr, even more so his child.

I really can't tell, whether he actually believes that line himself or if it's just a display of malice.
Either way it's twisted.


He's a self-proclaimed happy person. He is free. Anything else he says is a reinstatement of this reality no matter how melodramatic or resentful is sounds.

One hand clapping.
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PostSubject: Re: Life & Death (II) - Love and Compassion Tue May 27, 2014 6:10 pm

The tragic thing is,

I genuinely feel compassion for Satyr's son.

Satyr and Lyssa mock my sister's pain, someone they've never met, with the sole intention of offending me, and you look straight past it and accuse me of being twisted.

Take a look at who your 'friends' are, Anfang.
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PostSubject: Re: Life & Death (II) - Love and Compassion Tue May 27, 2014 6:14 pm

Satyr,

I don't believe you intentionally hurt your son.

A son looks to the father, and tries to fashion himself in the father's presented image.

If the son doesn't match that presented image, the son learns to reject parts of himself.

This is setting the son up for a long, slow, painful decline.
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PostSubject: Re: Life & Death (II) - Love and Compassion Tue May 27, 2014 6:21 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_the_messenger

My experience at these forums.

You don't like the message, so you attack me however you can to avoid it.
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PostSubject: Re: Life & Death (II) - Love and Compassion Tue May 27, 2014 6:24 pm

stargazer wrote:
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The reason why I came here is because I feel sorry for Satyr, even more so his child.

I really can't tell, whether he actually believes that line himself or if it's just a display of malice.
Either way it's twisted.


He's a self-proclaimed happy person. He is free. Anything else he says is a reinstatement of this reality no matter how melodramatic or resentful is sounds.

One hand clapping.

Yeah, it's like half of the world is missing.

If one would feel sorry for someone then one wouldn't say that.
Unless it would be only about oneself in the first place.
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PostSubject: Re: Life & Death (II) - Love and Compassion Tue May 27, 2014 6:27 pm

Some people only post while intoxicated on emotions, the problem is that when clear headed they have little to say. They ought to just say something, anything, while sober; ask a question, make a comment, and most importantly, be impersonal at all costs. To be clear, they should write as if they're writing anonymously to an anonymous audience.
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PostSubject: Re: Life & Death (II) - Love and Compassion Tue May 27, 2014 6:38 pm

You're right, Stuart.

I'm a bit foolish for that.

It's 7:30 am and I haven't slept.
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PostSubject: Re: Life & Death (II) - Love and Compassion Tue May 27, 2014 6:51 pm

Today at 1:51 pm

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Schmoe wrote: "I believe you're hurting and I hope to provide any tools I can to assist you in developing the power within to over that which harms you."


Today at 7:54 pm

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Schmoe wrote: Fuck you. I'm done with you. Enjoy rotting.

Not exactly the patience of a self-professed saint. One who came to save the world, but because it was going to take longer than 6 hours thought fuck this. Instead this thread seems to record the emotional vicissitudes of Joe Schmoe.
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PostSubject: Re: Life & Death (II) - Love and Compassion Tue May 27, 2014 6:54 pm

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Satyr and Lyssa mock my sister's pain, someone they've never met, with the sole intention of offending me, and you look straight past it and accuse me of being twisted.

I didn't look past it.
I didn't see Satyr mock her or her pain. And what got mocked was the 'heal the world with love angle' not the sister nor her pain.

Besides, love can be cruel. What doesn't want to get embraced by love, gets smothered by it. What doesn't want to become part of the herd gets either trampled by their hooves or starves in the wasteland it leaves behind.
The herd remains blissfully oblivious about all of that.
And so it should be.
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PostSubject: Re: Life & Death (II) - Love and Compassion Tue May 27, 2014 7:12 pm

Anfang,

Why do you think they mentioned my sister?

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I've had no sleep in over 24 hours, and was being perpetually mocked by Satyr when I didn't disrespect him in my communications with him.

I didn't expect to have a large difference on anyone, I just wanted to Satyr to read it and consider it with an open mind.

What offends me is that my intention was to provide Satyr and the members of this forum with an alternative world view, which I have considered deeply. And my only response is repeated insults and mocking.

Every single member, bar Stuart, who isn't 'loyal' to practices, has taken it upon themselves disrespect me, with little justification. Again, just shooting the messenger.

I believe if Satyr follows the path he's on, he will rot. That's why I want to intervene in any capacity I can.

I'm annoyed that he'd rather attack someone who doesn't have ill will towards him, rather than have the decency to just say he disagrees, and raise specific points that he disagrees with. All his posts are riddled with insults and condescension.

It's hard to stay objective when a forum's throwing shit at you perpetually. When I sleep, I'll look at these posts and just think you're assholes, but predictably so. I wouldn't let it bother me.

eh, you're not interested. I'm talking to myself
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PostSubject: Re: Life & Death (II) - Love and Compassion Tue May 27, 2014 7:35 pm

Stuart. wrote:
Some people only post while intoxicated on emotions, the problem is that when clear headed they have little to say. They ought to just say something, anything, while sober; ask a question, make a comment, and most importantly, be impersonal at all costs. To be clear, they should write as if they're writing anonymously to an anonymous audience.

Now you see why I must drive these sick fucks away.

How long can one man endure this much illness?

I receive too much attention...I do not want more.
At least not quantities of this type of sickness.

I want qualitative attention.

I'm supposed to respond to that old "love will save" the herd, psychology crap, over and over again, year after year...respecting these imbeciles because I must, I MUST!

Do you now understand why I insult?
It's a verbal method of swatting flies, of getting mosquitoes out of my face.

I have a psychological wreck, Shcmuck, a douche-bag with mother issues, Mooo, a desperate housewife, Phoneee, Some homo who thinks I am hiding latent homosexual desires, Man-o-Queen and once a pedophile who hijacked my YouTube page and stalked me for months.
And that only in the last 12 months.

And all of these demand my attention, to take thenmm seriously to respond to their declarative dismissals, or to some artistic cryptic crap they invent to protect their egos, because they actually feel intimidated by me.

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PostSubject: Re: Life & Death (II) - Love and Compassion Tue May 27, 2014 8:24 pm

Perhaps people new to this forum should refrain from being personal.

For example, instead of Joe spewing the emotion vomit he did above, he would have instead have made a series of objective observations, such as the below:

The question presents itself as to why in a context unrelated to siblings one would mention the sister of another.

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At times, participants in conversations mock others without any provocation.

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There's the occurrence of posting while sleep deprived.

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Some words are not expected to have a large difference on anyone, the intent only being that one should read them and consider them objectively.

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If one was to present people with a deeply considered alternative world view, it would be indicative of a lack of respect for that person should they respond with repeated insults and mocking.

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Often groups have practices which most of the members remain loyal to, those include showing disrespect to outsiders whom they disrespect.

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The common phrase for disrespecting one with a message that the other finds disagreeable is "shooting the messenger".

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One following the path of the Satyr will rot. Intervention is plausible.

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A polite expression of disagreement is more agreeable to the messenger than insult. Also, it would be more agreeable to the messenger should the recipient raise specific points that he disagrees with.

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The Satyr is known for riddles, insults and condescension.

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Objectivity is difficult for the recipient of flung feces.

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After sleeping, one may, with fresh eyes, look upon posts read when sleep deprived and come to similar conclusions. If those conclusions include the observation that the writers are very ill-tempered beings, there is little reason to believe it would negatively affect him.

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When one speaks to those who're disinterested, it's similar to speaking while alone, best described using the phrase, "speaking to oneself".
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PostSubject: Re: Life & Death (II) - Love and Compassion Wed May 28, 2014 3:04 am

Schmoe wrote:
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Why do you think they mentioned my sister?

Probably because they feel sorry for you and her.
Hah!

No,
I can only speculate about the degree of foresight. What it did was move the conversation into the open hostility phase. Made it more honest. Get on with the thread, accelerate the whole affair and kept it from getting stale.


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PostSubject: Re: Life & Death (II) - Love and Compassion Wed May 28, 2014 3:17 am

Lyssa wrote:
How is your sister schmoe?

Out of rehab. yet?

Did your love help her pull through?
As I recall, Joe Schmoooo looks like a spitting image of Elliot Rodgers, could be his cousin?

Coincidence, or, do you believe in coincidences?
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PostSubject: Re: Life & Death (II) - Love and Compassion Wed May 28, 2014 5:47 am

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I really can't tell, whether he actually believes that line himself or if it's just a display of malice.

Of course he belives it, he's a true beliver.

Schome:

You'll never get anywhere trying to change people's nature by the use of words. Only exploit their own nature. So how shalt ye exploit your own nature, and how should he?
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PostSubject: Re: Life & Death (II) - Love and Compassion Wed May 28, 2014 6:16 am

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As I recall, Joe Schmoooo looks like a spitting image of Elliot Rodgers, could be his cousin?

Coincidence, or, do you believe in coincidences?

Pfffff. So shallow for a philospher. I thought it was only me.
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PostSubject: Re: Life & Death (II) - Love and Compassion Wed May 28, 2014 6:18 am

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Perhaps people new to this forum should refrain from being personal.

For example, instead of Joe spewing the emotion vomit he did above, he would have instead have made a series of objective observations, such as the below:

The question presents itself as to why in a context unrelated to siblings one would mention the sister of another.

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At times, participants in conversations mock others without any provocation.

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There's the occurrence of posting while sleep deprived.

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Some words are not expected to have a large difference on anyone, the intent only being that one should read them and consider them objectively.

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If one was to present people with a deeply considered alternative world view, it would be indicative of a lack of respect for that person should they respond with repeated insults and mocking.

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Often groups have practices which most of the members remain loyal to, those include showing disrespect to outsiders whom they disrespect.

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The common phrase for disrespecting one with a message that the other finds disagreeable is "shooting the messenger".

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One following the path of the Satyr will rot. Intervention is plausible.

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A polite expression of disagreement is more agreeable to the messenger than insult. Also, it would be more agreeable to the messenger should the recipient raise specific points that he disagrees with.

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The Satyr is known for riddles, insults and condescension.

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Objectivity is difficult for the recipient of flung feces.

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After sleeping, one may, with fresh eyes, look upon posts read when sleep deprived and come to similar conclusions. If those conclusions include the observation that the writers are very ill-tempered beings, there is little reason to believe it would negatively affect him.

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When one speaks to those who're disinterested, it's similar to speaking while alone, best described using the phrase, "speaking to oneself".

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PostSubject: Re: Life & Death (II) - Love and Compassion Wed May 28, 2014 7:22 am

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How is your sister schmoe?

Out of rehab. yet?

Did your love help her pull through?
As I recall, Joe Schmoooo looks like a spitting image of Elliot Rodgers, could be his cousin?

Coincidence, or, do you believe in coincidences?

Haven't seen schmoe... and while Phrenology is certainly a reasonable science, its enough to know that he sucks on Hick's Dick to know schmoe is a schmuck...

A pathological nightmare, that should be strait-jacketed along with his sister.

Imagine going around society and claiming every guy with an attitude of self-discipline is actually abusing his own child...
Imagine that kind of "good-samaritan" Intrusion and violence that he does while speaking of Love...

The song "In the name of love" by U2 comes to mind...


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PostSubject: Re: Life & Death (II) - Love and Compassion Wed May 28, 2014 7:36 am

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I'm saying I'm not falling into the traps that I believe you and Satyr are stuck in.

Happiness is overrated. Is any sucessfull person happy? Only bums. That said it is a vital part to longevity. Abused children get lower IQs and have damaged serotonin receptors.

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PostSubject: Re: Life & Death (II) - Love and Compassion Wed May 28, 2014 9:10 am

Anfang,

So you accept that they were being openly hostile towards me through the mention of my sister?

If you do accept this, go back.

Read what I wrote about your initial reaction to the situation.

I genuinely care for the welfare of Satyr and his son. I get angry and insult him, but my heart's not in it. I'm venting the frustration of how unreasonably I believe he communicates with me, along with most other members of this forum.

In contrast, Satyr and Lyssa raise the issue of my sister in hostility and anger. Intended to hurt me, nothing more.

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What did you say of me, and what did you say of Satyr.

That I'm twisted, and you've no issue with Satyr / Lyssa.

You're holding us to different standards. You should consider Satyr and Lyssa with the scrutiny you consider me.

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I'm motivated to communicate with you because I believe you're actually considering my words. You're showing me respect for which I am grateful. We're going somewhere.

Seems like every other person on this forum wants to stone wall me, or talk in circles.

I hope you re-evaluate the quality of this forum's inhabitants.

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As for the rest of you,

I'm not interested in having shit thrown at me, but when I feel up to it, I'll come back and address you. (Wait patiently)

If you displayed the courtesy of Anfang, I'd be motivated to communicate with you. But that's the entire point, isn't it?

You don't want me to persistently communicate with you, because my words hurt you. Hence all the acts that reasonably lead one NOT persisting in communication.

What happens after the rational person leaves?

You guys get together, give each other hugs and high fives and say, 'We sure showed that piece of scum what's what. They left with their tail between their legs in utter defeat. We're fucking brilliant!'

Again, it'd be hilarious if it wasn't so tragic.

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Additionally, it's fitting that after Stuart (thank you, btw) summarized my words objectively, without all the queues to set you off on your hatred of emotion, that no one has yet responded to my observations with objectivity and depth in return.

(Perhaps Anfang treated me with respect due it, not sure)

You were all so quick to dismiss me - how about responding to my observations that Stuart summarized objectively.

Is it harder to dismiss someone when they're completely objective?

Hope so.
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PostSubject: Re: Life & Death (II) - Love and Compassion Wed May 28, 2014 10:19 am

Everything I've said has been constructive.

Even if not.

All comments can have so much drawn out of them provided insight. Some are just too obvious.
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PostSubject: Re: Life & Death (II) - Love and Compassion Wed May 28, 2014 11:33 am

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Pfffff. So shallow for a philospher. I thought it was only me.
Have you seen his photo on ILP or not? I wonder if this observation is only mine? I don't want to be mistaken in the likeness.
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PostSubject: Re: Life & Death (II) - Love and Compassion Wed May 28, 2014 11:34 am

Post a link.
I am curious what a brain-dead moron looks like.

Why?
Just because.

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PostSubject: Re: Life & Death (II) - Love and Compassion Wed May 28, 2014 11:50 am

Satyr wrote:
Post a link.
I am curious what a brain-dead moron looks like.

Why?
Just because.
Of course just because!!! From ILP....

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PostSubject: Re: Life & Death (II) - Love and Compassion Wed May 28, 2014 11:52 am

That's Joe Schmuck....not Moooo.
The docile vacant eyes are a reflection of his needy soul.

He just wants to be loved.
Fragile, pure, gullible, romantic.
He probably writes poetry to the soul-mate he has never met.

I can't imagine any daddy abusing that innocent face.

With Mooo look for that hipster, academic-type, with the laid-back scruffiness of a stray dog.

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PostSubject: Re: Life & Death (II) - Love and Compassion Wed May 28, 2014 12:01 pm

I've told you twice already to ignore me.

I'm telling you now for a third time.
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PostSubject: Re: Life & Death (II) - Love and Compassion Wed May 28, 2014 12:07 pm

Monooq is dreamy.

Between this and that...I'll go for just anything...to fill that emptiness.

True story...
I got so pissed drunk once, I killed a cat, then cooked it and ate it.
Legendary.
I should write a story about it.

Then I crapped my pants.
Next morning the shit was so dry and hard I had to rip some my skin off to get my underwear to come away.

True story...
I punched a nun in the face, after a drunken binge. Came out of a motel room, next to a nunnery, having spent a few hours with a prostitute.
She gave me that look, you know, of disapproval. I became enraged and laced her one.

Why?
Wrong question.
'Cause...

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PostSubject: Re: Life & Death (II) - Love and Compassion Wed May 28, 2014 12:44 pm

Joe Schmoe wrote:
Anfang,

So you accept that they were being openly hostile towards me through the mention of my sister?

If you do accept this, go back.

Read what I wrote about your initial reaction to the situation.

I genuinely care for the welfare of Satyr and his son. I get angry and insult him, but my heart's not in it. I'm venting the frustration of how unreasonably I believe he communicates with me, along with most other members of this forum.

In contrast, Satyr and Lyssa raise the issue of my sister in hostility and anger. Intended to hurt me, nothing more.

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What did you say of me, and what did you say of Satyr.

That I'm twisted, and you've no issue with Satyr / Lyssa.

You're holding us to different standards. You should consider Satyr and Lyssa with the scrutiny you consider me.

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I'm motivated to communicate with you because I believe you're actually considering my words. You're showing me respect for which I am grateful. We're going somewhere.

Seems like every other person on this forum wants to stone wall me, or talk in circles.

I hope you re-evaluate the quality of this forum's inhabitants.

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As for the rest of you,

I'm not interested in having shit thrown at me, but when I feel up to it, I'll come back and address you. (Wait patiently)

If you displayed the courtesy of Anfang, I'd be motivated to communicate with you. But that's the entire point, isn't it?

You don't want me to persistently communicate with you, because my words hurt you. Hence all the acts that reasonably lead one NOT persisting in communication.

What happens after the rational person leaves?

You guys get together, give each other hugs and high fives and say, 'We sure showed that piece of scum what's what. They left with their tail between their legs in utter defeat. We're fucking brilliant!'

Again, it'd be hilarious if it wasn't so tragic.

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Additionally, it's fitting that after Stuart (thank you, btw) summarized my words objectively, without all the queues to set you off on your hatred of emotion, that no one has yet responded to my observations with objectivity and depth in return.

(Perhaps Anfang treated me with respect due it, not sure)

You were all so quick to dismiss me - how about responding to my observations that Stuart summarized objectively.

Is it harder to dismiss someone when they're completely objective?

Hope so.




Schmoe, shut the f--- up.

When you come in here intruding in the well-being of another's son,,, its only my good intentions and my love which makes me ask about the well-being of your sister...

Has she regained her sanity?

Did you have to lose yours instead?

I would like to give tips on how to love your sister better.

I think you abuse her with too much love.

This can be bad.

I am only concerned with the best wishes and all the love i have to how you treat her.


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PostSubject: Re: Life & Death (II) - Love and Compassion Wed May 28, 2014 12:48 pm

Schmoe, the schmuck  has gone through what he imagines as abuse in his life.

And now, everyone MUST ABS. BENEFIT from him.

Like the good Xt. missionary zealot he is, he will make sure, everyone MUST reap the wisdom of his life...

He only has good intentions like those missionaries who wiped out temples and groves because they knew better, and because Love had all the answers.

Schmoe is not a hunter, not a scavenger, not a parasite who enters the host,,, but he comes here, sniffs from a distance like a coward, offers a few tips his hands swirling on some rosaries , and goes off saying he'll be back... so that he can make sure everyone SHOULD learn and reap from the wisdom of his life...
The abuse he has gone through MUST be given a purpose now... because he lacks a goal in life, his abuse has to become his cause, his mission now in life.

Schmoe is a pimp.

He pimps himself.


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PostSubject: Re: Life & Death (II) - Love and Compassion Wed May 28, 2014 1:00 pm

@Satyr,

Isn't it funny, after you corner her in the aesthetic thread, she now adopts the pose of "ignore me"...

Typical coward, waiting for the angle to make that clean exit to make her escape.


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PostSubject: Re: Life & Death (II) - Love and Compassion Wed May 28, 2014 1:05 pm

Lyssa wrote:
@Satyr,

Isn't it funny, after you corner her in the aesthetic thread, she now adopts the pose of "ignore me"...

Typical coward, waiting for the angle to make that clean exit to make her escape.

But she will not.

She might go under the table in the corner, to build her nest of webs, waiting for a victim to become entangled in the multiplicity of her flimsy twines - the ones she pulls out of your anus.
A spontaneity with no remorse, no shame.

Why question why?

I, myself, prefer the company of a drunken imbecile, who spins storyline from his depraved life, to appear more interesting than he is.
Silence is golden.

She spins him into a cocoon, to slowly sap him of his energies, he spins a tale to build a personality he does not have.
They laugh.

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PostSubject: Re: Life & Death (II) - Love and Compassion Wed May 28, 2014 1:25 pm

Lyssa wrote:
@Satyr,

Isn't it funny, after you corner her in the aesthetic thread, she now adopts the pose of "ignore me"...

Typical coward, waiting for the angle to make that clean exit to make her escape.


There was cornering done in that thread, but it was done by ME.
The audience is welcome to visit that thread and watch satyr scramble to cover his ass.

And there is no AFTER, as I've said this repeatedly and I have witnesses to such.
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PostSubject: Re: Life & Death (II) - Love and Compassion Wed May 28, 2014 1:47 pm

Schmoe wrote:
I hope you re-evaluate the quality of this forum's inhabitants.

You approach this from a point of view that all are basically the same kind.
I wouldn't want lions to eat straw and rest peacefully among the sheep.
That would mean for them to become sheep.

If you were a minority in this world, if your way of 'love' would be a small movement and the flock would leave a negligible imprint in the natural world then I'd probably be more sympathetic to your cause, more understanding.

Because my self needs to live in this world and depending on how my personal environment is balanced I'd try to slightly tip it to make it a better livable habitat for my self.

But as it is, your love is suffocating me. And simply put I'm not willing to let that part of me get suffocated in exchange for herd-membership. I'm using the word love metaphorically here.
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