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PostSubject: Re: Fixed and Value Ontology Fri Oct 14, 2016 6:14 pm

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A recent comment I made simplified the concept of positive nihilism and negative nihilism the same way. Positive nihilism is the destruction of hierarchy by totalitarianism, negative nihilism is the sowing of chaos.

Most human male positive nihilisms involve some form of peace, or anti-aggression principle, because it seduces the feminine aspect of humanity. Things like the N.A.P. become their own sort of violent straight jacket, as we see with SJWs that redefine violence to be "micro-aggressions". Those most tolerant end up being the most weighed down and chained.

De Benoist's essay on Liberalism speaks of tha; you should def. read it.

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PostSubject: Re: Fixed and Value Ontology Fri Oct 14, 2016 6:16 pm

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The cancers, I.e. cancerform-Lyssa and cancerform-Stayr, find that life is just a joke. I have no doubt that they will finds their deaths the same way.

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However it is that I may die, Fixed, is not going to change some historical facts.


And I love the massive inversion btw.

Because, in fact, its Not I or US, that thinks life is a joke, or The Holocaust is a joke, but its your kind who Made an Industry of it that made of it a joke, something mundane….

I repeat again; Deaths have happened throughout history and so many wars,, but when one is singled out so Disproportionately with a conscious agenda, then History itself balances that disproportion by pointing out facts outside the box. To "bring it back into reasonable context" is not equal to thinking "life is a joke" , AS IF, ANYONE has a special status on suffering. They dont.
As If, putting "The" holocaust in context, is conveniently and automatically tantamount to belittling the Whole of Life itself!
What megalomania... 

If someone did claim a special status on suffering as their religious basis, as their promised deliverance, its not necessary the entire world must yield to the religious fancies of another. We call this Diversity.

If Ranking superior and inferior objectively between those who exploited an Industry off their own suffering, and those, like Japan, for instance, that suffered a whole nuclear disaster that has left horrible chemical mutations upto this generation, and yet, a whole culture of Discipline, even though it was pressured to dwindle into pacifist feminization,,, and thus IT IS POSSIBLE TO RANK OBJECTIVELY between peoples' attitudes in the face of life and death that distinguish them vertically - that is most assuredly not taking "life as a joke"… in fact the very opposite.

Own up to your ignorance, your cowardice, and moral tactics you use at anyone Affirming Standards in life, to shame them. Its that simple.

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PostSubject: Re: Fixed and Value Ontology Tue Nov 15, 2016 4:04 pm

FC wrote:
"production of international racial unions"

With the error corrected:

"production of international family-unions"
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Fixed is so pathetic, he will erase and hermaneutralize all phil. texts and records, just so he can have the pitiful warmth from the flattery of some meek Xt. like Capable self-hating his own heritage, and so must be pacified, racial identities are superficial.

How badly do you want it?

This kind of love?

And for this price?

Good for you.

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PostSubject: Re: Fixed and Value Ontology Tue Nov 15, 2016 4:09 pm

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Its only asset was Clinton/Bush. Indeed it wont last longer, this is happening. Fracking, a friendly Russia, and all sort of new technologies have already assured energy independence.

But now that the fearful prospect of nuclear war has been lifted, I will simply proceed to write down inevitable consequences of religious politics, as all you have to do is read the books to trace where they've been walking and heading. Religion rules world politics, Ideology does at least and I dont really recognize the difference. Its the blindness people take on the be able to self-value in the chaos of flux that only a mineral/plant/animal, god or philosopher can survive by himself.

The religions have been the real human flesh of splitting from self-valuing in history of the incomplete daemonic mind. The Overman would technically be the resolution of Judaism into a Hellenic freedom. The Greeks were free of privilege, the Jews were bound by privilege - the Jews do the bitter work of preparing the world for a greek standard.

We cant overstate the importance of reality. Jesus was a Jew born in a Greek world.
The metaphor of him being a son of Zeus is apt, even striking. For a change, Zeus fucked a Jewess.
Hera was really quite pissed this time.


Hera, that is the queen of the free world - an beautiful angry wife. But that is an attainment that the subconscious of Humanity is about to recognize as an arrow and aim, as the instincts of division, which secure freedom from responsibility/self-valuing/consistency, to ontic goldstandard, as the greatest high tide of religion now begins to wane, its waters turn back towards their source, the bitter sea of faith, the strong heart.

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The Torah is the axis of world politics. Its fulfillment, the rebuilding of the temple, will be the creation of world peace.
I assure you.
All that needs to be done is a formalization of the Mosque as integral to the Temple. Its already architectonically arranged.

But I appreciate I am a total renegade in this, plus with Jewish heritage/Messiah complex ("All jewish boys have a messiah complex" - Ischa Meijer)

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Nevermind jews taking on the mantle of representing the greek standard,,, how do you do that when you have no concept of Standards, let alone to speak of THE greek standard…

And then to speak of GREEK…

Fixed's christ-valuing in other words says, Wank Thyself!!
That's His standard.

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PostSubject: Re: Fixed and Value Ontology Tue Nov 15, 2016 4:11 pm

When you can't RANK,

Fixed's standard is,

Wank!

Better than looking just

Blank…

Put anything there when christ-valuing is the policy...

What does it matter in the absence of standards.

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PostSubject: Re: Fixed and Value Ontology Sun Nov 20, 2016 7:12 pm

Nietzsche wrote:
"Artificial strengthening: whether by stimulating chemicals or by stimulating errors ("delusions"):

e.g., the feeling of security such as a Christian possesses; he feels strong in being able to trust, to be patient and composed: he owes this artificial strength to the illusion of being protected by a god;


e.g., the feeling of superiority: as when the caliph of Morocco is allowed to see only globes upon which his three united kingdoms occupy four-fifths of the surface;

e.g., the feeling of uniqueness: as when the European imagines that the march of culture takes place in Europe, and when he seems to himself to be a kind of abridged world process; or when the Christian makes all existence in general revolve around the salvation of man."

-It is a question of where one feels the pressure, the constraint: according to where this is, a different feeling of being stronger will be produced. A philosopher, e.g., feels in the midst of the coolest, most transmontane abstraction acrobatics like a fish in water, while colors and tones oppress him; to say nothing of the dim desires-that which others call "the ideal."" [WTP, 917]

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PostSubject: Re: Fixed and Value Ontology Sun Nov 20, 2016 7:31 pm

To hazard,

The (theo-)logic of 'self'-valuing is such that, had Trump lost, this same Fixed, would have immediately christ-valued his way into praising Hillary for dignifying Blacks, and the Black Church, her pro-LGBT, mexican drug-cartels, and black cRap music and the ghettoing of culture. His only reason to support Trump was the alliance with Russia [his ancestral ties] and its Xt. Orth. against islam.
Because everyone knows the 'anti-capitalism' of the left is just an eye-wash, in name only, and who cares of the anti-white/male rhetoric, when her drive for Spinozaic co-operative Humanity would have then appeared attractive.

When the reasonable standard is only a conatal preservation, to be able to digest anything, everything as valuable is a self-immaterial nihilism.

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PostSubject: Re: Fixed and Value Ontology Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:53 pm

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As to that bigot half-Capable,

Quote :
Truth is that by which beings survive


--- puts him in the same skyhooks category of the Xt. of IAmbiguous...

Does "Truth" hang there like some platonic ideal? The Truth?

No, because to a half-wit like Wyld,
Quote :
More truth happens to allow better survivalism, all other things being equal...

the bolded constant is just a convenient assumption that need refer to nothing in reality...
And these are the dim-wits claiming VOt is all about acknowledging inequalities and special snowflake quotient...

Whatever.

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PostSubject: Re: Fixed and Value Ontology Thu Jan 19, 2017 7:19 am

Is this the mule thread of Fixed Cross' VO?

You folks protest an awful lot. I wear crazy well and its rabid even by crazy standards.

Value first, logic second. It's a streamlined approach to reducing the malfunctioning scientific process, infusing it with value placed directly to the needs of progress that take humanity into account first and foremost, not the industry of science (science proper), not the military, and definitely not extravagant consumerism. I don't understand everything about it, it's still a work in progress, but all this fuss here seems excessive.

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PostSubject: Re: Fixed and Value Ontology Thu Jan 19, 2017 8:32 am

No protest....

We discover and expose liars, hypocrites, cowards, and all manifestations of Nihilistic decay.

He's just one of many. A tenacious strand of the virus.
A bug would feel flattered by the attentions of an entomologists.

The usage of words, out of contexts, or taken literally and then metaphorically, is part of the virus' methodology, its manner of infecting weak, needy minds.

Remaining blind or silent to it would be a mistake.

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PostSubject: Re: Fixed and Value Ontology Mon Mar 13, 2017 8:15 am

DERRICK P. NANTZ wrote:
The case for egoism also stems from the fact that Nietzsche believes “morality never has inherent  value.
Instead, as we established in the previous section, a moral code must be instrumental. It must serve a person’s life, which is the source of all value.
Otherwise, it will harm his life. Likewise, Nietzsche thinks nothing ever has inherent value, i.e. value apart from a valuer, or value ‘in itself’. “Through valuation only is there value; and without valuation the nut of existence would be hollow,” Nietzsche states.

This does not mean, of course, that just because something is valued by someone then it is ipso facto valuable. Rather, it means that the existence of a valuer is a necessary condition, not a sufficient one, for something to have value.
For something to truly be a value one must also show that it promotes the valuer’s life. This is made starkly clear when Nietzsche asks:  “[W]hat are our valuations and tables of moral values really worth?  What results from their rule? For whom? With regard to what? – Answer: for life. -NIETZSCHE ON NATURALISM, EGOISM AND ALTRUISM

When I came across this I remembered the half-breed, "true heir of Nietzsche" and his van clan following now enjoying the 'good life' of post-modern negro decadence.

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PostSubject: Re: Fixed and Value Ontology Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:44 pm

Another version of the van-clan, clique, hippie, let us bang on the typewriter, likes chimps, making noise, until a Shakespeare-like play miraculously emerges, as if out of nothing ....

Nomads of the mind. their wheels are not a van, but the sounds that carry them away spontaneously.

It's the same worship of childish innocence - making noises with your mouth, in a jam, creates an ambience of creativity where "genius" emerges.
Sort of like cRAP.
This will be closer to the van clan's practices only with more talent, and youthful exuberance built over many years.
Sampling, voices, mixed and placed in a loop, with a cRAP word-association rhyme binding them together.
it's all about the sound...even the words.

One ought to abandon one's self to the rhythms and beats also sampling the words, as triggers for emotions, sensations.
60's culture brought into the technological modern age.
Busking, a form of pan-handling, drug use, counter-cultural identity. The lost, gathering from across genetic lines, find a unifying meme in a very specialized form of music requiring nothing more than learning techniques in mouth and throat control.
Like children making noises.
Reminds me of Eskimo throat music.
The looping is a repetition that produces a hypnotic states, akin to drug use, and which, in combination is experienced as expansion, a trance.
One's ego disappears in other.  

All the disenfranchised, gather to exclude themselves, symbolically, from a world they feel alienated from - pushed to the periphery they seek the center in a new circle.
They use specialized art to create a tribal feeling of distinctness.
Living in self-imposed austerity, the ideal is the mouth and throat sounds, they call music, that unites them.
The central characters become heroes for those that haven't quite mastered the techniques idolize as popular culture idolizes celebrities who can pretend and have the right look to inspire in the crowds imaginative escapes.

Here is one of the "celebrities" of the clique displaying his talent with mouth noises.
There's a certain swagger, built over a period of adulation, and notice the shamanic hoodie, reminding us of Buddhist monk chanting.  
There's no meaning....it's supposed to trigger sensations, leaving the left-brain un-involved.  

Inter-Group competitions are about who can trigger the most passions in the crowd - libidinal erotic/thymotic explosions.
Other apes use similar hooting and hollering to trigger similar reactions.

The sound creates a magical space/time of shared energies.
Sampling involves a minimal connection to the culture beyond the walls, accentuating the tribe within a tribe feeling.
They do not reject nihilism they embrace it, and distinguish themselves within it, as superior negations, manipulating abstractions.
With no past, and few connections to the present, except for the minimal sampling they play on a segmented loop, the future is where they present themselves as the forefront.
They are creating the future.
Then they create it again, and again, because there's nothing in it for them.
By destroying and recreating it themselves there's nothing to protect.
Everything is a coming immanent future full of unknowable possibilities - hope.
Hopelessness in past, and present, is escaped in the forever coming future.

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