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PostSubject: Love Thu Jul 17, 2014 10:27 pm

"At this point the fact forces itself on my attention that beside the field of reflection there is another equally broad if not broader area in which rational understanding and rational modes of representation find scarcely anything they are able to grasp. This is the realm of Eros. In classical times, when such things were properly understood, Eros was considered a god whose divinity transcended our human limits, and who therefore could be neither comprehended nor represented in any way. I might, as many before me have attempted to do, venture an approach to this daimon, whose range of activity extends from the endless spaces of the heavens to the dark abysses of hell; but I falter before the task of finding the language which might adequately express the incalculable paradoxes of love." C.G.JUNG


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PostSubject: Re: Love Thu Jul 17, 2014 10:29 pm

Love?  Romantic fictional fabrications meant to sugarcoat purely materialistic and selfish motivations.

No such thing as love.  Belongs with other fantastic fictions like God, government, Santa Claus, morality, ethics, civility, Tooth Fairies, and social equality.

I like Charles Bukowski.  Smile 


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PostSubject: Re: Love Thu Jul 17, 2014 10:34 pm

It works best when it's just a continuation of self-love. No?
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PostSubject: Re: Love Thu Jul 17, 2014 10:37 pm

I'll tell you what is real.  Money is real.  Money will buy you all the so called love in the world.

Women "love" men with lots of money.  They'll open their legs right up for you.

They'll be your wife, girlfriend, one niter, or long standing mistress for the right amount of money.

Most women [98.9%] will never like you for your unique outstanding personality but boy will they sure ever "love" you for your money.


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PostSubject: Re: Love Thu Jul 17, 2014 10:40 pm

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I'll tell you what is real.  Money is real.  Money will buy you all the so called love in the world.

Sure about that?

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PostSubject: Re: Love Thu Jul 17, 2014 10:43 pm

Alright Erik,  I recant.

Money or a decent electrical taser.  That's what it takes to get between a woman's legs.
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PostSubject: Re: Love Thu Jul 17, 2014 10:46 pm

Oooo, well if you keep that mindset you'll be broke in no time.
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PostSubject: Re: Love Thu Jul 17, 2014 10:52 pm

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Alright Erik,  I recant.

Money or a taser.  That's what it takes to get between a woman's legs.



I've never, really, needed either.

Good looks is like 25-30 percent of the equation. Personality ( charisma, confidence, masculinity ) is 70 percent of what females find attractive in men. Money is a memetic bastardization of genetic fitness. Problem is that even cowards and weaklings can obtain it....

Note that females don't, necessarily, find rich guys inherently appealing. Imagine it akin to a " But-her-face "; she may have a nice ass and rack, but at the end of the day, her face is .....well....you know....

We will fuck the " But-her-face ", but won't commit to a serious relationship with her. The female will use the genetically inferior rich dude, but won't have any genuine sexual attraction to him.

Both genders are naughty, naughty little rascals.
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PostSubject: Re: Love Fri Jul 18, 2014 3:59 am

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Note that females don't, necessarily, find rich guys inherently appealing.

I think you will find the opposite of this.  Women look for things like leadership and intellect.  Money, represents power, security and intelligence and women of child bearing age will be very "sexually" attracted to a man of "status".  I think this declines as the woman ages as there is no longer the need of protection or status for her children.  There is a lot of referencing to sexual attraction, but what of love, does it exist and how to describe it.

Is there a kind of love that goes beyond the physical limits or range of "making love", a sort of ecstasy, almost a mystical thing.
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PostSubject: Re: Love Fri Jul 18, 2014 5:56 am

Ask allemotion here her history with rich guys, Joker may find this very interesting............
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PostSubject: Re: Love Fri Jul 18, 2014 10:24 am

Erik, I've seen some very beautiful women with some very horribly unattractive guys physically overtime.

Why?  Because while being horribly unattractive physically they were loaded financially.

Even looking great physically is no guarantee that you will get the bitches.

I've known plenty of guys that work out every day that are single.
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PostSubject: Re: Love Fri Jul 18, 2014 10:51 am

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Erik, I've seen some very beautiful women with some very horribly unattractive guys physically overtime.

Why?  Because while being horribly unattractive physically they were loaded financially.

Even looking great physically is no guarantee that you will get the bitches.

I've known plenty of guys that work out every day that are single.

I've seen it myself, too.

The thing is that they don't, really, like these guys; they don't have any sexual attraction towards them. They simply use these rich guys for their money, while they fornicate with sexually desirable men on the side. We are both on the same page that they will open their legs for money, but as prior mentioned, that doesn't mean they like these guys. I've fornicated with females without spending a dime on them.

To Reasonvemotion, money does represent power and security, but intelligence? Eh, I wouldn't stretch it that far; there are plenty of unintelligent rich people.

There are, really, only two types of love that I know of: Agape and Eros. Your question seems to allude to some sort of transcendentalism, or divine ultimate reality, God. " God is Love ".

Maybe....

I'm kind of on the fence about God, though.
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PostSubject: Re: Love Fri Jul 18, 2014 7:27 pm

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To Reasonvemotion, money does represent power and security, but intelligence? Eh, I wouldn't stretch it that far; there are plenty of unintelligent rich people.

Of course, but because a man/woman is rich, does not negate, intelligence. There are some who "have it all". Why is it necesssary to despise wealth? Why did you say in another post, "tell her I drive a lamborghini?

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Ask allemotion here her history with rich guys, Joker may find this very interesting............

Why are you any different to the woman who is attracted to a man of wealth. You stipulate, you "value" a girl in a certain age group, with specific physical attributes, there is no difference between yourself and the woman who puts a monetary "value" on a man. You have values, which are your passions, but not genuine love for the other.

Kant says....."True human love admits of no distinction between types of persons, or between young and old". He is claiming that love is not grounded in the perception of the beauty or other value of the beloved.

The question is. We love Y instead of Z. Why?
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PostSubject: Re: Love Fri Jul 18, 2014 9:07 pm

What we need is more love, and by "love" I mean some sensation we need not think about too much.
Kant was a genius, and not a christian.
If anyone could explain what love is, in the Platonic sense, then it is he, and those who religiously ascribe to his mysterious words.
His things-in-themselves.

I've given up trying to understand myself, and all my emotions, sensations, feelings.

I think I'll only enjoy them from now on - but only the goods ones.
The ones that feeeel good must be the "good ones".

The others I'll dissect, and question, and doubt, and explore, until there's nothing left but dust - I'll pulverize them with my skeptical need.
I'll call it "integrity".

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PostSubject: Re: Love Sat Jul 19, 2014 3:26 am

When did I ever claim to be any different?

I *want* a virgin little tart, blonde hair, blue eyes, pale white snowflake skin, petite, etc. Do I *get* what I want? No. Are my desires unrealistic? Maybe. Who gives a fuck? That doesn't change my desires. And if I settle for less, which is most likely, then does it change the rules and motivations? I want, sexually desire, a specific type of girl. But here is the thing. When talking about a female sexually desiring a male....how does this connect with money and a bank account? It doesn't.

Because the male desires the female. The female desires, not the male himself, but what he can offer her.

And then we have countless double standards which imply something impossible, that gender is "equal". How can it be, when females never care what men *are*, but instead care about their own self serving interests?

I never claimed that life was fair. In fact, I enjoy it this way.

Allemotion, don't become a hypocrite. Love? What does love have to do with sexual desire, anything at all? Or is love and sex.....just a coincidence, as so much phenomena is for such simple minds?

I'm not offering my definitions on this point.
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PostSubject: Re: Love Sat Jul 19, 2014 3:39 am

Actually today in fact, I crossed path with one of these golden hair blue eyed beauties. We only exchanged smiles, but her beautiful face leaves a deep mark in my consciousness. A healthy aryan female can do that to a man. Can ugly women do the same?

Is love equal?
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PostSubject: Re: Love Sat Jul 19, 2014 10:05 am

I always try to focus on the positive side of life.
For instance, in a universe of darkness, it is those tiny stars that make me feel I am living in a sea of light, and where life is the exception I choose to focus on it, imagining the cosmos as brimming with life; it's not the negative "I know very little" but I know something, so I am swimming in omniscience.

Yesterday I realized that even getting my ass kicked can have a pleasant outcome.
I guess I am a bit of a hedonist.

It's all a matter of perspective.
Gotta have a positive outlook, and stop being a gloomy goose.

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PostSubject: Re: Love Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:00 pm

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I've given up trying to understand myself, and all my emotions, sensations, feelings.

Love. I guess if you didn't learn it when you were young, it would be difficult to learn later on.

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PostSubject: Re: Love Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:03 pm

You found me out.

I was never loved.
My father raped me.
My mother burned me with an iron.
I was put in a foster home.
I was bullied.
I never could make any friends.

 Crying or Very sad

Keep talking...
I'm listening.

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PostSubject: Re: Love Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:10 pm

You prove my point.

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Showcasing is an essential ingredient for these people, although another means used to silence the voices of others, is not fight with them, even agree.  "I agree with you, I am a gutless wimp, I am a fraud".


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You found me out.

I was never loved.
My father raped me.
My mother burned me with an iron.
I was put in a foster home.
I was bullied.
I never could make any friends.
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PostSubject: Re: Love Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:21 pm

reasonvemotion wrote:
You prove my point.

reasonvemotion wrote:

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Showcasing is an essential ingredient for these people, although another means used to silence the voices of others, is not fight with them, even agree.  "I agree with you, I am a gutless wimp, I am a fraud".


The Daemon wrote:

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You found me out.

I was never loved.
My father raped me.
My mother burned me with an iron.
I was put in a foster home.
I was bullied.
I never could make any friends.


She wants to know you Intimately, Satyr... and if you don't share, you are out to silence her, or you are a Homo... Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Love Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:22 pm

I know...
You are brilliant.

Stupidity can wear a man down.
Just too much of it.

You reply to one, ten come out of the woodwork.
You don't and they declare victory.
You reply to them en masse, they accuse you of avoiding them specifically.
You reply to them individually, you need 100 hour days to get through their numbers, and the subtleties and their bullshit.

You explain your positions with long posts, they accuse you of verbosity, then completely misunderstanding everything they read, or skimmed through.
You don't and you are accused of evasion of hiding.

In the end you realize that stupidity cannot be reasoned with, and the average mind adopts and holds onto certain methods to cope.
There's no reasoning here...nothing can cut through the invested time and hope.

Eventually they begin digging to find what makes you tick, and what made you this way...having no clue what you are saying, in the meantime.

And then you realize that you don't give a shit, and that what could be done has already been done.
Then you play, indulging in another pastime: people reading.

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PostSubject: Re: Love Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:26 pm

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She wants to know you Intimately, Satyr... and if you don't share, you are out to silence her, or you are a Homo... Wink

I know.

The female always wants to find the pain - Vampirism.

A big, strong, horse, can be ridden if you find its soft-spot and you buy yourself some spurs.
She wants a saddle custom made, for me...so that nobody else can ride me, like she can.

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PostSubject: Re: Love Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:30 pm

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Lyssa wrote:



She wants to know you Intimately, Satyr... and if you don't share, you are out to silence her, or you are a Homo... Wink

I know.

The female always wants to find the pain - Vampirism.

A big, strong, horse, can be ridden if you find its soft-spot and you buy yourself some spurs.
She wants a saddle custom made, for me...so that nobody else can ride me, like she can.


She will be the heroine who discovered the human beneath the daemon... it HAS to be there...
Surely, she can't really be attracted to a Monster... her attraction and unceasing obsession has to make sense. It can only be because there's a Human hiding in the monster, and HER love can bring it out...

Its a chance she wants...

She can do it, she says...


The script is all written out in her head... if only you would play the part and buckle when you need to...

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PostSubject: Re: Love Mon Jul 21, 2014 1:32 pm

Wounds are tasty.
*pokepoke* yum, wounds.
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PostSubject: Re: Love Tue Jul 22, 2014 2:05 pm

Today I saw a enormous fat man in a t-shirt, sweat on his back (it is hot weather though), his fat was visible everywhere, he had a base ball cap, was drinking energy drink and his girlfriend was a reasonable looking blonde girl, a little bit chubby though. But the contrast...
They were waiting for the bus as well - no riches, no health, no intelligence, fat as a whale...
And I have seen such examples more often, vice versa as well.
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PostSubject: Re: Love Wed Jul 23, 2014 5:36 pm

Love: a temporary truce between indifference and disgust.
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