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PostSubject: Sleep, Anger Management and the Cancer Industry Fri Dec 07, 2012 6:43 pm

Dr. Burzynski: Cancer is Serious Business



Charlotte Gerson on Cancer and Disease



Cancer - The Raw Truth


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PostSubject: Re: Sleep, Anger Management and the Cancer Industry Sat Dec 08, 2012 6:08 pm

Yep, cancer is a business. Unfortunately one that leads to poverty and death for those afflicted. Good strategy to play on the emotion to sell product. If cost goes out the window when your dog is sick, just imagine how much people will pay to cure their mothers! I admit I'm interested in alternative forms of prevention as the current "state advocated diet pyramid" is clearly false. The idea that all people trying to show other paths to health are whackjobs dedicated to stealing your money is also very prevalent everywhere. I have limited knowledge in this area, but I'll share something that may or may not be useful.

Interview with Gabor Mate
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This guy has been gathering data on how your mental state directly influences your physical state.

Charlotte Gerson is 89? She is very aware for a person that age. Very rare to see that but I am unconvinced the proof is in the pudding. 20 pounds of raw food a day? Carrots are high in protien? The idea that a better diet leads to all kinds of prevention is one thing, but what if it has the same effect on mental capacity? Would a diet consisting of WW1 rations dull your mind where a "proper" diet would enhance it to a degree not yet considered? Is that pizza you consume weekly decreasing your awareness and potential?

It's kind of funny that I've never really considered corruption in healthcare. I know it exists of course, however I've never needed a doctor myself but after seeing firsthand what chemo does to people I should put it all together for the day may come. Good finds.
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PostSubject: Re: Sleep, Anger Management and the Cancer Industry Sat Dec 08, 2012 7:31 pm

I do see a connection between psychology and disease.
The mind and the body are not separate entities.
They are the same Becoming viewed within different contexts.
Appearance is NOT superficial. In an appearance we see the emergent unity’s overall condition, but because the mind’s health can be hidden, faked, and does not become apparent until later – this is due to the difference in speed between energy (manifesting as thoughts) and matter.
Now, is the body affected by the condition of the mind or is the mind affected by the condition of the body?

Well, for me, one cannot view it in this way because both the mind (brain activities) and the body (the rest of the activities we call physical body,) are one and the same.
We might say that the brain, being the nervous system’s hub, is an interpreter of all the functions that participate in maintaining or Becoming an organism.

This is why disease in the body can make itself perceptible to the brain in the form of dreams, and it is also why organic effects, such as organ weakness, has a profound affect no character, as well as mood.

Emotion, as a friend of mine once put it, is the “nexus between the mind and body” union-to-be, and so it reflects the overall condition of both mind and body, because the mind is the product of a brain which is a part of what we call body.
Because the brain can only think in abstractions (fabricated, simplified, generalized absolutes) it feels alienated by the body (itself a manifestation of the Flux) for not living up to tis ideals, or ideas.
It then struggles to make the body, a part of the Flux veering towards entropy, to conform to its ideal, which is a projection of a desirable order.
I think cancer is simply the consequence of too many cellular replications.

Every time a cell splits it is affected by mutations. These can create what we call cancer…a mutation that fails to conform to the organism’s ordering.

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PostSubject: Re: Sleep, Anger Management and the Cancer Industry Fri Feb 01, 2013 10:19 am

"What is Cancer? Traditionally, medical science has thought of it as an invasive tumor arising spontaneously in an otherwise healthy organism. In contrast, Wilhelm Reich defines cancer not as a tumor--the tumor is merely a late manifestation of the disease--but a systemic disease due to chronic thwaring of natural sexual functioning. In this radically different scientific investigation of a process that ends, literally, in the putrefaction of the living body due to chronic suffocatin of the tissues, Reich has arrived at the conclusion that "cancer is the most significant somatic expression of biophysiological effect of sexual stasis." If this is so, there is a far greater possibility for prevention of cancer than for its treatment."

"The Cancer Biopathy"

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PostSubject: Re: Sleep, Anger Management and the Cancer Industry Fri Feb 01, 2013 10:41 am

The Chinese take a somewhat broader approach to these energy issues, but the theory (and practice of cure) is essentially the same. What Reich calls sexual energy, the Chinese call chi, as hindus call it prana.

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“Cancer cannot be cured if your mind is unhealthy, or if your qi is blocked or weak.”

For centuries, people thought cancer was impossible to prevent and impossible to heal. Even in modern society, with modern medicine, cancer remains a focal point for medical people to explore the cause and the cure. Much research has been done with Western medicine using drug therapy, but there has not been enough research into Eastern medicine and natural approaches. People with cancer have been cured from different natural methods, but there is no evidence to prove how they were cured. Cancer patients lived much longer than the doctors had expected, but how?

Nobody could put the “how” on paper in a convincing way. This is the frustration of Chinese medical doctors who know that there are natural ways of healing cancer. Because there is a lack of research based on evidence except for individual cancer patients’ positive experience with natural medicine, it is difficult for Chinese medicine practitioners to educate people about these natural ways.

The Real Tragedy
First, cancer itself is not terrible; the terrible part is the mind and the stagnated qi. Cancer is curable if the mind is healthy and the qi is flowing smoothly in the body. In contrast, cancer cannot be cured if your mind is not healthy, or if your qi is blocked or weak. A healthy mind does not mean you must be stubborn, and strong qi does not mean you need to have big muscles in your body. A healthy mind helps to promote qi flow, and smoothly flowing qi helps to create a positive and peaceful mind.

What Causes Cancer?
We often think that cancer could be caused by certain chemicals, high-power electric fields, certain fungus or mold, a certain bacteria or virus, and so on. Nevertheless, even when we are exposed to these pathogens all the time, why do some people get cancer and others do not. In Chinese medicine, things are viewed differently.

As we know, cancer tissue (tumor) is a very hard object; almost like a stone that the doctor has to remove surgically. How does the normal tissue grow like a stone? From many years of clinical experience with Chinese medicine, TCM doctors realize that after the body has stored the stagnated qi for a long time and it has not been corrected, blood stagnation occurs. These stagnations cause weakness in the immune system and certain tissues are undernourished. Therefore, the normal tissue becomes cancerous tissue.

People who have better immune function can fight the cancer with other treatments, such as chemotherapy, radiation, or Chinese medicine. If the immune function is weak, a person with cancer might lose the ability to fight and die. Many things can cause stagnation of the qi, such as high stress, wrong diet, low mental tolerance, an inactive lifestyle, mental restrictions, overworked body and mind, excessive drinking, smoking, certain uncorrected injuries, long-term depression, an introverted personality, other illnesses not corrected in a timely manner, etc. Even the pathogens mentioned earlier could cause stagnation of qi and blood.

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PostSubject: Re: Sleep, Anger Management and the Cancer Industry Fri Feb 01, 2013 6:23 pm

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an inactive lifestyle, mental restrictions, overworked body and mind, excessive drinking, smoking, certain uncorrected injuries, long-term depression, an introverted personality,

Strange. All the people I personally have known have All been very extroverted, temperamental, envious, high social/sex drive...

I'd rather have thought its an overactive qi than a stagnant one.

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PostSubject: Re: Sleep, Anger Management and the Cancer Industry Wed Feb 27, 2013 3:57 am

My thoughts on that are that cancer either originates from a mutation which can be induced by things like radiations (some wavelengths are much more harmful than others, and of course the intensity) or chemical mutagens.
It could also develop spontaneous, it's basically a thing of odds and there are certain things which greatly enhance the chances of mutations which could result in the development of cancer. That's from the materialistic point of view.

The following is just my observation and it's based on hints and probably is more a reflection of my believes.
I also think that cancer can be a kind of death wish of the body. I believe that certain traumas and stress can induce that kind of cancer development. It is not the ego-trauma, not the conscious trauma (it can go along with a conscious one as well but) it's an unconscious one. You feel stressed and your world is crumbling - probably not the thing to give you cancer. It's more the things which you are unaware of which affect you, which lead to it.

I kind of agree with the extroverted kind are more likely to get cancer theory because they are less focused on their self, or say there is less time for them to be themselves. More unconscious things are going on which are in no way connected to their consciousness (does that make sense?). This makes them more vulnerable to unconscious wounds festering without any kind of release/connection into the conscious.


That being said there is also Vitamin B17 (trivial chemical name).
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(I think there is high probability that it works quite well and is not just something to sell you).

In short, things to look out for if you are more interested in it:
It can be a cure for people who have cancer, especially in the very early stages but it's more about prevention. That 'B17 vitamin' is not only found in apricot kernels but many other seeds - google it if you are interested. The indication is a bitter taste.
Now the thing is that modern people have no likes for bitternenss, life must be sweet all the time so the market provided them with what they wanted and that is fruits which have that kind of bitterness removed from their seeds (via selective method or direct genetic manipulation). So people who want to try it have to shop around. It's not an expensive method, in fact, you just have to eat the seeds of certain fruits (the ones which still contain the bitter taste in the seeds). But of course, people have to do their own research on that.

Probably not gonna work if your body is disgusted with the world it has to live in. Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Sleep, Anger Management and the Cancer Industry Fri Jul 04, 2014 9:16 am

It seems indeed logical that extraverts are more likely to be diagnosed with this disease, for the reason Anfang gives - they are less busy studying themselves and processing themselves. It seems to me that cancer can be seen as a traffic-jam of unprocessed energy that gets stagnant and sour and can no longer be accounted for by the whole.

Someone who is constantly oriented on the outside world, on expectations, status, social climbing and things like this, does not primarily value the world in terms of himself but vice versa, himself as a function of the world, and this leads to neglect of many parts of the self.

When a part of the body/psyche gets undernourished, the introvert will sooner notice and dwell on it, the extrovert will longer discard it, precisely because it is negative. The introvert is forced to deal with his internal demons.

"Too little chi" - this means stagnant, not well managed. Chi is well regulated in a limited circuit (for example, the social self) and in other parts of the being, where discontent arises, it is left to its devices in the hope that the social status, the thrills and happiness, the money, etc, will make the other suffering go away or look small in comparison.

But in fact one needs more and more happiness to compensate for the hollowing out of the organism.

For practical purposes it's good to mention orgone and orgonite in a thread about cancer, especially in conjunction with Wifi radiation.

I recently heard ot a strong and healthy man who moved to house where his bedroom was oon the top floor and had a pyramid type roof covered with tin foil. Within a year, he was on the verge of death, horrible cancer and about to commit suicide. A magician friend of mine came to diagnose the situation and saw that the Wifi radiation of the entire building was concentrating in the nook of the roof, it could not escape. The man slept in a grid of hard radiation, and this disallowed him to sleep or to attain any relaxation at all. Most moderns are more or less used to varying states of such deprivation, think it has an inner cause, which is what they are being told.

The doctor who was present was silently acknowledging that with he advent of wifi networks the cancer rate had skyrocketed. When he spoke, he asked "did you think of starvation-therapy?"

It is clear how little has changed, how much of our 'medical' personnel is still working in the sprit of the Church, how much are means agains life.

Do you wake up hard/wet? If not you so not sleep well, and this is likely due to this radiation, which (naturally) influences your brainwaves, disallows alpha, theta and delta waves to harmonize. Certain orgonite is being made especially to facilitate deep sleep.

Most people seem to prefer succumbing to this massively intense radiation front rather than investing in a simply remedy, which will turn out to be a large factor in natural selection.

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PostSubject: Re: Sleep, Anger Management and the Cancer Industry Fri Jul 04, 2014 12:05 pm

High protein intake is linked to increased cancer, diabetes, and overall mortality

"Mice and humans with growth hormone receptor/IGF-1 deficiencies display major reductions in age-related diseases. Because protein restriction reduces GHR-IGF-1 activity, we examined links between protein intake and mortality. Respondents aged 50–65 reporting high protein intake had a 75% increase in overall mortality and a 4-fold increase in cancer death risk during the following 18 years. These associations were either abolished or attenuated if the proteins were plant derived. Conversely, high protein intake was associated with reduced cancer and overall mortality in respondents over 65, but a 5-fold increase in diabetes mortality across all ages. Mouse studies confirmed the effect of high protein intake and GHR-IGF-1 signaling on the incidence and progression of breast and melanoma tumors, but also the detrimental effects of a low protein diet in the very old. These results suggest that low protein intake during middle age followed by moderate to high protein consumption in old adults may optimize healthspan and longevity."



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PostSubject: Re: Sleep, Anger Management and the Cancer Industry Fri Jul 04, 2014 4:05 pm

Over the years I have come to find that health depends mostly on three things. (Besides a healthy endowment)
- What you take into your body.
- Enough good rest
- Enough, right, exercises, movement

Sounds simple enough, even banal.

In addition to that is the psychological well being which seems to also depend on what you take up with your mind, rest and retaining flexibility.

Another critical point is that we live in very heterogeneous times. The bodily homogeneity within different ethnicities is dwindling. Cross-breeding being only one factor in this. Because of this increasing heterogeneity, health recommendation in diet and behavior are becoming less universal across a population.

So in short,
An increased mindfulness about daily routines, sleeping conditions, a change in well being and so on, goes a long way. Universal recipes are becoming less and less effective.
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PostSubject: Re: Sleep, Anger Management and the Cancer Industry Sat Jul 05, 2014 11:00 am

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Over the years I have come to find that health depends mostly on three things. (Besides a healthy endowment)
- What you take into your body.
- Enough good rest
- Enough, right, exercises, movement


So, by "what you take into your body" you mean: what you consume + your environment, because even breathing leaves traces if you spend some time in a polluted area.
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PostSubject: Re: Sleep, Anger Management and the Cancer Industry Sat Jul 05, 2014 11:57 am

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Anfang wrote:
Over the years I have come to find that health depends mostly on three things. (Besides a healthy endowment)
- What you take into your body.
- Enough good rest
- Enough, right, exercises, movement


So, by "what you take into your body" you mean: what you consume + your environment, because even breathing leaves traces if you spend some time in a polluted area.

Yes, even radiation is in part absorbed by the body. (Now I'm not saying all radiation should be avoided at all costs, I'm thinking of the sun for example, it's more about what to look for if well being, health, starts to get impaired.)
Because you mention air, solvents in new, fresh furniture, or solvents used in modern building materials can be very toxic for some people - usual problems are diseases and conditions of the lung, skin and eyes. Not everybody is affected by it to the extent of it becoming a 'serious' issue, but it's a potential source.
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PostSubject: Re: Sleep, Anger Management and the Cancer Industry Sat Jul 05, 2014 12:33 pm

"Mesothelioma cancer most commonly develops in the lungs of people exposed to asbestos. Effective treatments are available to ease symptoms and improve your prognosis.



The cancer usually affects the thin, protective membrane surrounding the lungs, heart or abdominal cavity. Doctors diagnose an estimated 3,000 cases a year in the United States, and the majority of those are traced to job-related asbestos exposure.

Although asbestos use declined dramatically in recent decades in this country, the incidence of mesothelioma remains steady. That difference can be traced to the distinct latency period linked to the cancer. The disease can take anywhere from 20 to 50 years after exposure to asbestos before it shows obvious symptoms and an oncologist can make a definitive diagnosis. While no cure for the disease exists and the prognosis is typically poor, researchers made significant progress in recent years in understanding the cancer and developing new treatment options and alternative therapies.

How Asbestos Causes Cancer

Mesothelioma typically develops after exposure to asbestos in the workplace – in industrial settings, shipyards, auto repair shops, old houses, schools and public buildings. While it usually takes long-term exposure to put someone at risk, short-term and one-time exposures are also known to cause mesothelioma cancer.

70-80% of all mesothelioma cases are caused by asbestos exposure at work




Microscopic asbestos fibers are breathed in or swallowed, and the human body has difficulty destroying or getting rid of them. Over decades, fibers cause biological changes that result in inflammation, scarring and genetic damage. The most susceptible area to these fibers is the lining of the lungs, called the pleura, although fibers also can become trapped in the lining of the abdominal cavity (peritoneum). Once fibers cause biological damage, the stage is set for the decades-long latency period for the development of malignant mesothelioma."



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"When the Twin Towers collapsed to the ground on September 11, 2001, a massive cloud of smoke, dust and debris released these hazardous asbestos fibers and other toxic substances into the air. Asbestos fireproofing materials from 20 stories of the towers came showering down on New York City. According to reports from the EPA, the implosion from the towers "pulverized asbestos to ultra-fine particles."

The World Trade Center Health Registry estimates about 410,000 people were exposed to a host of toxins including asbestos during the rescue, recovery and clean-up efforts that followed 9/11. People most affected by asbestos at Ground Zero were people assigned to rescue survivors. These workers were among the first on the scene and the last to leave the wreckage. Search and rescue workers and others responsible for cleaning up the debris in the months after the towers collapsed were also exposed to asbestos."

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"Workers in a number of occupations, as well as others who were in New York City on 9/11, were affected by the collapse of the World Trade Centers.

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According to a report from a Hopkins University study, even workers who joined the clean-up process by January 2002 developed "significant respiratory health problems."

As of September 2009, the organization 9-11 Health Now reported that 817 World Trade Center workers had died from various causes. About 40,000 were enrolled in medical monitoring and 20,000 were "sick and under treatment." Many had upper respiratory issues, while some reported multiple medical concerns."

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PostSubject: Anger Management and the Cancer Industry Mon Aug 04, 2014 5:04 pm

Here's my theory in short: in order to exist a human must periodically explode in rage. It is simply the consequence of his internal components being self valuings and thus producing next to cohering supersystems also an excess of being, which must be released through the supersystem (the body) without being of any use to the body's purposeful behavior. The body must serve its organs by blowing off steam. This is one of the reasons even aside from possible objects of fury that anger absolutely needs to be expressed.

To not express it quickly causes illness, most notably in this day and age, cancer and depression. Both are cause of stifled life, obstructed organs. Depression is the psychological cancer - an unchecked division of unwanted bits of being, growth that can not be incorporated. Cancer is the physical counterpart. Cancer patients are often extroverts, depressives most often introverts. The latter deal with their shit instantly but still ineffectively , the former do not deal with their shit at all but seek relief from the building hellfire in their innards in excitement and social abandon

The cancer and depression industries are literally that - the economics of 'anger deprivation' and the sale of means to deal with the crippling results so as to perpetuate them; after chemo or prozac the organisms natural capacity to anger-heal will be shook, disoriented, lost to consciousness and potentially damaged beyond chances of full recovery.

There are two benefits to this : milking the human of his wealth, and neutralizing him as an entity that may be of moral influence of some kind.
No human has ever had any moral influence without rage as its vessel.


The mutating of DNA and the rogue splitting of cells is not something that occurs once in a while to an unlucky body, it happens constantly in every large organism. In Chinese medicine, what we call early stage cancer is a permanent condition, something the body is well equipped to deal with by circulating energy. Expressing rage is the monarch of such circulating activity, hence the dominance of Martial Art as healing practice.
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PostSubject: Re: Sleep, Anger Management and the Cancer Industry Mon Aug 04, 2014 7:49 pm

Nice.

But it misses a key point in my view. The criterion behind rage-explosions:

Nietzsche wrote:
"Nowadays I avail myself of this primary distinction concerning all aesthetic values: in every case I ask, 'Is it hunger or superabundance that have become creative here?' At first glance, a different distinction may appear more advisable - it's far more noticeable - namely, the question of whether the creation was caused by a desire for fixing, for immortalizing, for being, or rather by a desire for destruction, for change, for novelty, for future, for becoming. However, both types of desires prove ambiguous upon closer examination, and can be interpreted under the first scheme, which seems preferable to me. The desire for destruction, for change and for becoming can be the expression of an overflowing energy pregnant with the future (my term for this is, as is known, 'Dionysian'); but it can also be the hatred of the ill-constituted, deprived, and underprivileged one who destroys and must destroy because what exists, indeed all existence, all being, outrages and provokes him. To understand this feeling, take a close look at our anarchists.

The will to immortalize also requires a dual interpretation. It can be prompted, first, by gratitude and love; art of such origin will always be an art of apotheosis, dithyrambic perhaps like Rubens; blissfully mocking like Hafis; bright and gracious like Goethe, spreading a Homeric light and splendour over all things. But it can also be the tyrannical will of someone who suffers deeply, who struggles, is tortured, and who would like to stamp as a binding law and compulsion what is most personal, singular, narrow, the real idiosyncrasy of his suffering, and who as it were takes revenge on all things by forcing, imprinting, branding his image on them, the image of his torture. The latter is romantic pessimism in its most expressive form, be it Schopenhauer's philosophy of will or Wagner's music - romantic pessimism, the last great event in the fate of our culture. (That there could be a completely different pessimism, a classical one - this intuition and vision belongs to me as inseparable from me, as my proprium and ipsissimum; only the word 'classical' offends my ears; it has become far too trite, round, and indistinct. I call this pessimism of the future - for it is coming! I see it coming! - Dionysian pessimism)" [JW, 370]

Not everyone who unleashes his rage is noble or free of an inner cancer or psycho-somatic morbidity.
His criterion cannot be bettered, but only Refined more.

We need to break spaces, more pathos, more nuanced shades Within the spectrum of the Healthy-enraged for a more Vital criteria of discrimination and sculpting.

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PostSubject: Re: Sleep, Anger Management and the Cancer Industry Mon Aug 04, 2014 7:51 pm

I was diagnosed with thyroid cancer a couple months ago.

I would say that I have a lot of sub/unconscious rage that doesn't get expressed as much as it should. I'm, for the most part, introverted and patient; It takes a lot for me to snap.

I do go to the boxing gym, and that releases some aggression/rage. But I just got back into boxing recently.

Your theory kind of makes sense to me. Not sure about the science behind it, but at face value, it seems plausible.
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PostSubject: Re: Sleep, Anger Management and the Cancer Industry Mon Aug 04, 2014 8:05 pm

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Here's my theory in short: in order to exist a human must periodically explode in rage. It is simply the consequence of his internal components being self valuings and thus producing next to cohering supersystems also an excess of being, which must be released through the supersystem (the body) without being of any use to the body's purposeful behavior. The body must serve its organs by blowing off steam. This is one of the reasons even aside from possible objects of fury that anger absolutely needs to be expressed.

That's not at all my perception. Can you display a kind of precursor to that mechanism in other animals? If not, how did it arise so suddenly evolutionarily speaking? If true, than more likely an accompanying bi-effect. Unable to piece it.
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PostSubject: Re: Sleep, Anger Management and the Cancer Industry Tue Aug 05, 2014 1:47 pm

I think there is something to it.
It could possibly find a fitting explanation with epigenetics.
Certain lifestyles activate or inactivate certain genes. Critical for the development of cancer are faulty (through mutation) or potentially inactivated repair genes. (Genes which are the blueprints for cell-components which are repairing cell damages).
The sub-conscious and conscious mind, both experiencing different emotional and therefore also bodily (hormonal and so forth) states could potentially have such an influence.
Certain changes in body-chemistry taking place due to the bodily stress started by sub-conscious brain activity while missing the accompanying changes in body-chemistry through the conscious reaction which is not occurring.
Mimetic induced self-poisoning of the body.

Depression - unexperienced rage in my views, not necessarily unexpressed outwardly, but not experienced consciously, not even inwardly.
Rage not being experienced gets turned inwards in form of an implosion. Shutting down processes to control the explosion may have an influence on other processes as well.
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PostSubject: Re: Sleep, Anger Management and the Cancer Industry Tue Aug 05, 2014 1:58 pm

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I would say that I have a lot of sub/unconscious rage that doesn't get expressed as much as it should. I'm, for the most part, introverted and patient; It takes a lot for me to snap.

Maybe it would be healthy to try and express it more vocally. (Just thought about it because of the proximity of the organs.) A possibility.
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PostSubject: Re: Sleep, Anger Management and the Cancer Industry Tue Aug 05, 2014 2:11 pm

Anfang,

Good idea, actually.

I've been looking into something called " Primal scream therapy ". I think I might give it a try on my solo camping retreat.

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PostSubject: Re: Sleep, Anger Management and the Cancer Industry Tue Aug 05, 2014 3:04 pm

Looks contrived, judging from the screenshot.
I was thinking about putting more anger into your voice when anger is being experienced.
Overall I think that anything which feels contrived, if ever so slightly, is not gonna be helpful in the long run (with the health aspect).
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PostSubject: Re: Sleep, Anger Management and the Cancer Industry Tue Aug 05, 2014 4:14 pm

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I've been looking into something called " Primal scream therapy ". I think I might give it a try on my solo camping retreat.

That looks absolutely stupid. Learn to sing instead if you need to release rage vocally. It's like the difference between fighting spastically and fighting with control and proper conditioning. Rage isn't so easily released... Some stupid screaming exercise will only leave you with unfulfilled rage.

Regarding cancer... Even if you if you take the best precautions and your mind is right...eventually it seems that the sheer number of unbalanced people that contribute to cancerous environments might overwhelm you.
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PostSubject: Re: Sleep, Anger Management and the Cancer Industry Tue Aug 05, 2014 6:36 pm

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I've been looking into something called " Primal scream therapy ". I think I might give it a try on my solo camping retreat.

That looks absolutely stupid.  Learn to sing instead if you need to release rage vocally.  It's like the difference between fighting spastically and fighting with control and proper conditioning.  Rage isn't so easily released... Some stupid screaming exercise will only leave you with unfulfilled rage.

Regarding cancer... Even if you if you take the best precautions and your mind is right...eventually it seems that the sheer number of unbalanced people that contribute to cancerous environments might overwhelm you.

Well, I could have found a better video of this somewhere on Youtube; the one I chose was kind of ridiculous.

I'm interested, actually, in learning how to sing. But most genres seem like they don't express rage, except for metal/rock.

Here's a better video on Primal Screaming:

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PostSubject: Re: Sleep, Anger Management and the Cancer Industry Tue Aug 05, 2014 7:51 pm

You have done acknowledging, accepting, you had cancer.

You are young and strong, time to put it behind you.

Move on and be the person you are now.

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You have done acknowledging, accepting, you had cancer.

You are young and strong, time to put it behind you.

Move on and be the person you are now.


It's not about the cancer; it's about other things I'd rather not share openly.

I want to be the best version of myself, not quite there yet; always room for improvement, you know?
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PostSubject: Re: Sleep, Anger Management and the Cancer Industry Tue Aug 05, 2014 8:12 pm

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t's not about the cancer; it's about other things I'd rather not share openly.

I want to be the best version of myself, not quite there yet; always room for improvement, you know?

Of course.

The greatest and most impossible problems of life are all in a certain sense insoluble. They can never be solved but only outgrown.  Jung

Recognize your "own" value.


OhFortunae described it thus:


...... it is about such, protection of Self against degrading, eroding forces...
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PostSubject: Re: Sleep, Anger Management and the Cancer Industry Tue Aug 05, 2014 9:05 pm

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Erik wrote:

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t's not about the cancer; it's about other things I'd rather not share openly.

I want to be the best version of myself, not quite there yet; always room for improvement, you know?

Of course.

The greatest and most impossible problems of life are all in a certain sense insoluble. They can never be solved but only outgrown.  Jung

Recognize your "own" value.


OhFortunae described it thus:


...... it is about such, protection of Self against degrading, eroding forces...

Want to be my personal shrink? I pay top dollar  Very Happy

But in all seriousness, I do recognize my value. I'm, really, not an insecure person anymore. I still have my defects, but I feel I've matured a lot. The rage isn't about insecurities, but rather other things I don't want to state openly, as prior mentioned.

I think that the " Primal Scream " therapy would be beneficial in allowing the rage to flow outwardly, as opposed to inwardly.
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Want to be my personal shrink? I pay top dollar

But in all seriousness, I do recognize my value. I'm, really, not an insecure person anymore. I still have my defects, but I feel I've matured a lot. The rage isn't about insecurities, but rather other things I don't want to state openly, as prior mentioned.

I think that the " Primal Scream " therapy would be beneficial in allowing the rage to flow outwardly, as opposed to inwardly.



I should "cool the jets", huh? LOL, point taken.

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PostSubject: Re: Sleep, Anger Management and the Cancer Industry Tue Aug 05, 2014 10:13 pm

Reasonvemotion, no - I don't want you to cool the jets; I appreciate your input. I know we clashed heads a few times in the past, but for the most part, you have been kind to me - like a divine mother figure. Your words are always welcome to me.
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PostSubject: Re: Sleep, Anger Management and the Cancer Industry Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:41 am

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Nice.

But it misses a key point in my view. The criterion behind rage-explosions:

Nietzsche wrote:
"Nowadays I avail myself of this primary distinction concerning all aesthetic values: in every case I ask, 'Is it hunger or superabundance that have become creative here?' At first glance, a different distinction may appear more advisable - it's far more noticeable - namely, the question of whether the creation was caused by a desire for fixing, for immortalizing, for being, or rather by a desire for destruction, for change, for novelty, for future, for becoming. However, both types of desires prove ambiguous upon closer examination, and can be interpreted under the first scheme, which seems preferable to me. The desire for destruction, for change and for becoming can be the expression of an overflowing energy pregnant with the future (my term for this is, as is known, 'Dionysian'); but it can also be the hatred of the ill-constituted, deprived, and underprivileged one who destroys and must destroy because what exists, indeed all existence, all being, outrages and provokes him. To understand this feeling, take a close look at our anarchists.

The will to immortalize also requires a dual interpretation. It can be prompted, first, by gratitude and love; art of such origin will always be an art of apotheosis, dithyrambic perhaps like Rubens; blissfully mocking like Hafis; bright and gracious like Goethe, spreading a Homeric light and splendour over all things. But it can also be the tyrannical will of someone who suffers deeply, who struggles, is tortured, and who would like to stamp as a binding law and compulsion what is most personal, singular, narrow, the real idiosyncrasy of his suffering, and who as it were takes revenge on all things by forcing, imprinting, branding his image on them, the image of his torture. The latter is romantic pessimism in its most expressive form, be it Schopenhauer's philosophy of will or Wagner's music - romantic pessimism, the last great event in the fate of our culture. (That there could be a completely different pessimism, a classical one - this intuition and vision belongs to me as inseparable from me, as my proprium and ipsissimum; only the word 'classical' offends my ears; it has become far too trite, round, and indistinct. I call this pessimism of the future - for it is coming! I see it coming! - Dionysian pessimism)" [JW, 370]

Not everyone who unleashes his rage is noble or free of an inner cancer or psycho-somatic morbidity.
His criterion cannot be bettered, but only Refined more.

We need to break spaces, more pathos, more nuanced shades Within the spectrum of the Healthy-enraged for a more Vital criteria of discrimination and sculpting.

Yes, this is true. But then, it is impossible for me to even interpret Wagner as rage-ful, and in the yelping and god-bidding of the wretchedly upset, there is no fury in the organs, rather a fury in the mind. The minds fury is antithetical to the philosopher - his mind is the calm center fo the storm, his body and his emotions are often in rage. To a large extent, philosophy is the ability to stay calm and rational in the middle of raging passions, without subdueing these passions, rather seeing them as powerful horses, elements of stature, pride and power, but external to the center of the subject. To become intimate with these forces, to enjoy them and to unleash them, this is the privilege of the one who knows how to kee them under controlm, keep them from overpowering the mind and causing it to become blind to certain aspects of itself.

The Wagner and the far lesser pessimist are not clear headed. Their mind is a vehicle for their lack, their mind rages, their organs - who knows what their organs do. Perhaps they are depleted.

So thank you Lyssa, we can now distinguish between mind-rage and organ-rage.

Then there are 'normal' people, whose minds do not have the centered and ertaring quality, but who nontleless have genuine overfullness must exress in rage. Such people should not attach to causes - their rage needs to be unconditional, not be given the chance to caputre their minds in the process, as the mind should never be captured by rage, only be fued by it on the path it has set out for itself.

In anyone who is able to control his mind at least to the extent of not letting it fall under control of the organs, whehter they are seeking justification for their depletion or a vessel for their overflowing power - but only in the latter cases is that possible. A mind, being reflective, is not able to withstand lack as it is able to withstand passion. Only a mind trained in withstanding great passion, and thus able to know itself as a monarchic center of power, could ever truly endure lack without falling prey to decay. A mind only becomes positive, entity, the capstone of a humans self-valuing, through its confrontation with the fire int he organs, and it eventual alliance with them on the condition of having authority over them and letting them exist in their own nature, not trying to wound or weaken them.

A nole servant will only submit to its master if that master reveres that servant for its power. A proper master-servant relationship is wholly different from the master-slave dichotomy. The servant in the former falls in the category of the master in the latter - it is not born of lack but of unshaped excess.

Cancer in this model is seen as the result of ignoble mastership, of attempts, mostly subconscious, automatic and society-imposed, to weaken oneself because one is too strong for ones personality-structure and the society which was allowed to create that structure. It's a matter of bad hierarchy within the psyche, in most cases experienced as a form of guilt.

As nature does, this produces an interesting paradox - one acts out of a guilt toward society and thus creates a much eeper guilt toward oneself. Sooner or later these two guilts melt together and then the psyche is truly lost, no longer representing a paradox, but in full contradiction with itself. At this point the organs will move to depletion and the greater danger begins to rear its head - the danger of a healthy human becoming a wretched one.
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PostSubject: Re: Sleep, Anger Management and the Cancer Industry Wed Aug 06, 2014 12:09 pm

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I was diagnosed with thyroid cancer a couple months ago.

I would say that I have a lot of sub/unconscious rage that doesn't get expressed as much as it should. I'm, for the most part, introverted and patient; It takes a lot for me to snap.

The thyroid region is the most risky region for introverts. It governs the throat and verbal expression, and what is far more important than making hard sounds, screaming (which is a good first step) is telling the truth to peoples faces. That is also far, far more frigntening and factually dangerous.

None of this is a joke - it's either submitting to a disease like cancer or suffering the judgmens of the fearful and dishonest, which sums up any society at large.

A thing to keep in mind is that to express truth does not mean that one has a claim to factual truth. What one expresses is psychology, ideas, a world. It makes no sense to expect people to comform to this world - Satisfaction comes through the fact that they know it's out there, and that the speaker is transformed from a slave to an entity.

Entity is difference, distance. Modern society tries to eliminate this quality by equalizing and having peopkle cozy up to each other under values that they can share -- cheap, common values -- and so to kill all the force that represents the entity's ontology -- its pure, honest self-valuing which puts it at odds with at least half of the world.

To celebrate difference, in talking to people with honesty and in the full awareness of the fear it causes in you -  in screaming, sure - but also in singing (a most truthful form) - all this counters the stifling, cluttering effects of society. I am not saying it is enought to cure cancer - an orgone zapper would be recommended to boost the process and the official channels you have chosen must not be abandoned on the basis of this philosophical thesis, which I trust in principle but can not present as a cure.

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I do go to the boxing gym, and that releases some aggression/rage. But I just got back into boxing recently.

Your theory kind of makes sense to me. Not sure about the science behind it, but at face value, it seems plausible.

Regarding the science, there are endless Chinese, Reichian and other ''alternative" sources (ones not run by the cancerindustry) to corroborate this, but mordern science, once mightly, now is little but an attempt to suppress the truth about lucrative diseases. So it's hard to find academic material to support my theory, but a serious mind relies in nothing on academics.

Consider this response I got to the thesis on Humanarchy:

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This strikes me as correct, because as I've understood it cancer is an immune disorder in that the always present genetic cell mutations get ahead of the immune system's ability to deal with them. If one had a super strong immune system they could be exposed to huge amounts of "carcinogens" and be just fine.


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PostSubject: Re: Sleep, Anger Management and the Cancer Industry Wed Aug 06, 2014 12:18 pm

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Here's my theory in short: in order to exist a human must periodically explode in rage. It is simply the consequence of his internal components being self valuings and thus producing next to cohering supersystems also an excess of being, which must be released through the supersystem (the body) without being of any use to the body's purposeful behavior. The body must serve its organs by blowing off steam. This is one of the reasons even aside from possible objects of fury that anger absolutely needs to be expressed.

That's not at all my perception. Can you display a kind of precursor to that mechanism in other animals? If not, how did it arise so suddenly evolutionarily speaking? If true, than more likely an accompanying bi-effect. Unable to piece it.

Radiation and chemical crap replacing natural food is all contributing to weaking the immune system in humans and animals alike. But we can withstand this assault if we are healthy and vigorous. Expressing rage is absolutely essential to mantaning such vigor.

It would seem to me that animals in breeding-cages are comparable to humans in modernity, or even worse off in terms of their ability to express their existential excess. This would, by the explained logic, make them extremely susceptible to cancer.

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PostSubject: Re: Sleep, Anger Management and the Cancer Industry Thu Aug 07, 2014 4:29 pm

I do not trust any scientists with this, as I have no desire to become the object of ridicule and accusation in a context as sensitive and negatively meaningful as this. But in a place like this I believe I can safely say that the means to increase circulation are very real in their health benefits. There is much in the Belly Dancing thread to use in correspondence with this.
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Heraclitus on Sleep:

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"A person in (the) night kindles a light for himself, since his vision has been extinguished. In his sleep he touches that which is dead, though (himself) alive, when awake touches that which sleeps."

"Even sleepers are workers and collaborators on what goes on in the universe."

"Death is what we see waking. What we see in sleep is a dream."

“It is not appropriate to act and speak like men asleep.”

“Men forget where the way leads and what they meet with every day seems strange to them.We should not act and speak like men asleep.”


Bhagavad Gita wrote:
"Only with him, great Prince!
Whose senses are not swayed by things of sense -
Only with him who holds his mastery,
Shows wisdom perfect. What is midnight-gloom
To unenlightened souls shines wakeful day
To his clear gaze; what seems as wakeful day
Is known for night, thick night of ignorance,
To his true-seeing eyes. Such is the Saint!" [2]



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"To contemplate the primordial and the archaic is to gaze far into the black waters of the Lake at Nemi, to uncover what lies in the deepest mines, to fathom the profoundest gulfs, and to search ‘the dark backward and abysm of time’. It is a katabasis, a descent, not into the Underworld, but deeper, before the creation of the Underworld. Nothing can be said of such depths, there is no time and space, no where, no thing. However, the feelings which the primordial engenders, its dark sublimity, are one with those very qualities which engender the Creation. Terror and dread, obscurity, vastness, the uncanny awaken forces, ‘the pregnant causes’ which are the beginnings of experience and are the dim, unconscious shadowings of order. It is also an exploration of the innermost abyss of the soul. Those who have grasped the ebon bough – Friedrich Creuzer (1771–1858), Jakob Böhme (1575–1624), Friedrich Wilhelm Joseph Schelling (1775–1854), Petar Petrović-Njegoš (1813–1851) – write of affect, of longings and passions, violent, beautiful, and terrible which precede the World and which drive the emergence of God." [Paul Bishop, The Archaic]


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Sloterdijk wrote:
""The placenta functions as a tangible physical object that is capable of containing the abstract concept of the “With” that accompanies us from our earliest vibrations. The disposal and neglect of the placenta isn’t so much important in its physical action, as it is in what it says about our thinking about our intimate companionship with our genius and ourselves. The forgotten placenta symbolizes our forgotten genius, and introduction into an institutionalized individualism. There are some indications that modern individualism could only enter its intense phase in the second half of the eighteenth century, when the general clinical and cultural excommunication of the placenta began.

But where, as in the most recent part of the Modern Age, the With-space is annulled and withdrawn from the start through the elimination of the placenta, the individual increasingly falls prey to the manic collectives and total mothers – and, in their absence, to depression. From that point on, the individual is driven ever deeper into the fatal choice between and autistically defiant decent into loneliness and devourment by obsession communities, whether in pairs or larger groups. On the way into apparent willfulness, one arrives at something else: the human without a protective spirit, the individual without an amulet, the self without a space. If individuals do not succeed in augmenting and stabilizing themselves in successfully practiced loneliness techniques – artistic exercises and written soliloquies, for example – they are predestined to be absorbed by totalitarian collectives. For the individual whose double disappeared in the garbage always has good reason to prove to himself that he was right to survive without his With, rather than keeping his intimate other company in the garbage…they deny that they are constantly repeating a betrayal of their most intimate companion in their remorselessly autonomous being.

The Roman genius is a representative from the immeasurable collection of soul companions and guardian spirits of which the mythologies of people and major religions tell. From a religion-typological perspective, it belongs to the morphological circle of outer souls which, like the Egyptian Ka or the Mesopotamian guardian spirits Ilu, Ishtaru, Shedu and Lamassu, were assigned to the inner life forces of individuals as external supplements.
Even the Socratic daimonion, though it already tended to articulate itself as an internalized guardian spirit, like an early argument for the conscience, still belongs typologically to the external or supplementary souls as a threshold figure; Socrates speaks of this subtle guest, which intervenes in his monologue , as if it came from an external space of closeness. Properties of the outer soul are also found in the character-daimon which, according to the great myth of the hereafter in the tenth book of Plato's Republic (620 d-e), is assigned to every soul that has chosen a new earthly fate by Lachesis, one of the three Fates.

Like most figures of this type, the Roman genius appears as an unmodulated fixture; it accompanies its charge's affairs like a benevolent silent partner with no claims or demands for development; its constancy stems from the fact that it is a spirit with few qualities. With an unchanging form and as a mysterious union of the wonderful and the reliable, it ensures that the psychological space inhabited by the ancient subject discretely and continuously borders on a proximate transcendence. Hence the ancient could never imagine the individual life simply as a distinctive soul-point, a trapped spark or striking flame; existence very much has a spheric and medial structure, because the subject is always placed inside a demigod-like field of protection and attention.

A mature subjectivity would be one that had developed its geniuses from micro- to macro spheric functions without breaking the continuum.

The genius, the twin, the guardian angel and the outer soul form a group of elemental and enduring concepts for the second pole in the psycho-spheric dual.

In traditional cultures, children must become at least as mentally spacious as their parents in order to move into the world house of their tribe. In advanced cultures, this factor is joined by professional spirits of provocation and soul expanders - which, in the case of the ancient Greeks, led to the discovery of school and the transformation of demons into teachers. (The teacher historically appears on the scene as a second father; he oversees the sensitive transition from the quartet stage - that is, to the minimum form of society. Since the advent of teachers, fathers have found themselves observing dissimilar sons.)

Depressive impoverishment is the exact depiction of the state of no longer having anything to say after the removal of the most important augmenter; that is why, in the ancient world, real melancholia was primarily the illness of the banished and the uprooted who had lost their families and ritual contexts through wars and pestilence. But regardless of whether an individual is forced to go without the cult of its gods or its divine partner, the depressive-melancholic subject embodies the certainty of the genius' no-longer-being. Falling prey to melancholia means nothing other than devoting oneself with undivided intensity of belief to the conscious or unconscious statement that I have been abandoned by my intimate patron, accomplice and motivator. Melancholia constitutes the pathology of exile in its pure form - the impoverishment of the inner world through the withdrawal of the life-giving field of closeness. In this sense, the melancholic person would be a heretic of the with in his lucky star - an atheist in relation to his own genius, or the invisible double who should have convinced him of the unsurpassable advantage of being himself and no one else.

The sublime, the childlike and the sick - in his turbulent polemic against Christianity, nietzsche does not take the time to unravel the riddle of how these aspects could come together in a single qualifier, namely "idiotic"…
"Childlike" could refer to the willingness to interact with others without asserting one's own self, instead keeping oneself available as the augmenter of the other.
The idiotic subject is evidently the one that can act as if it were not so much itself as its own double, and potentially the intimate augmenter of every encountered other.
The idiot placentalizes himself…
The idiotic savior would be the one who did not lead his life as the main character in his owns tory, but had rather exchanged places with this afterbirth in order to make space for its being-in-the-world as itself. Is this a pathological excess of loyalty?
"Unless you become like children….?" Perhaps Jesus should rather have said: "Unless you become like this idiotically friendly thing…"?" [Spheres-Bubbles]


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So it came about that modern society offered false alternative – either collectivist fusion with one’s nation or isolation in the ‘bosom of the Nature’. First choice is closely connected with potentially deadly outbreaks of ‘playing with power’, and the second with regression into absorbing mother-nature that is a pathetic ersatz for totalitarian nation-state.
The inventor of that alternative is Jean-Jacques Rousseau."
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"The notion that the riddle of success is more easily solved by attitude thanaptitude may be one of the more subtly destructive forces in American society. Not only is it a reproach to rational thought, but in a society already veering ominously towards narcissism, this ‘hyping of hope’ also erodes reverence for hard work, patience, scholarship, self-discipline, self-sacrifice, due diligence and the other time-honored components of success.""


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"By reducing the social to a mere system of differences and the subject to an illusion of individuality or self-presence, postmod-ernism exorcised actors and agents from society and therefore could notadequately explain the meaning of social action and change. It representeda spirited attack on the power structures of modernity but it did not, andprobably could not, lay down principles for an alternative structure becauseit was adamantly anti-foundational. By parodying modernity, postmodernismtook on a comic frame (Alexander, 1995: 84) that could not plausibly betranslated into statements on temporal changes in society. Yet, the social world had moved on and changed dramatically and social theorists had toinvent new terms like neo-modernism to describe and explain these trans-formations.
In essence, the solidification of modernity is analogous to thetransition from traditional to legal-bureaucratic authority. Bureaucratic struc-tures may seem to be more solid than traditional ones but are vulnerable tothe ‘softening’ effects of charisma. Similarly, we see in Giddens’s (1990) treat-ment of modernity the attribution of institutional power to the nexus betweencapitalism, industrialism, surveillance and the military. Modernity is solid inthe sense that the combined power of these interlocking institutions over- whelms any individual effort to keep tradition in place, and makes ‘Westernexpansion seemingly irresistible’ (Giddens, 1990: 63)."
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Liquefaction and Sleep-walking zombie.

"Narrator: "Was I asleep? Had I slept? Was Tyler my bad dream or was I Tyler's? I was living in a state of perpetual deja vu."" [Palahniuk, Fight Club]

"Narrator : When you have insomnia, you're never really asleep... and you're never really awake." [Palahniuk, Fight Club]




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"In one group, the fylgjor are invisible and act in a collective. If they are hostile, they let their presence be felt through atsókn – that is, making their enemy tired and sleeping. The common naming here is fylgja and ófridar- and óvinarfylgja."

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When the fetch turns malignant, it induces Lethe-argy and oblivion...  the sensation of a loss, melancholia and cancer are linked.

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Satyr wrote:
"Memories can also be manipulated, reworked, redefined, implanted or forgotten, selectively, if the central goal remains intact.
The individuals do not care about internal symmetry, or a cohesive world-view. They only care about applying different methods, within different contexts, to remain hidden, and to have that underlying, unifying need, or needs, satisfied continuously.
It is a waste of time trying to reason with such minds; nothing can trouble such a mind, on a conscious level, because no memory is ever integrated into the same pattern, or measured using the same standard.
Memories, for it, are not stored patterns to draw comparisons from, but patterns to cherry-pick data to deal with the immediate threats to its hidden stress.
It can never be pushed into a rational corner, nor be caught in a contradiction that will cause it contrition or uncertainty, because its mind is a chaotic mess of twisting perceptions, and it can choose to use any compartment, at any time, to protect its central need(s).  

Modernity produces such fragmented minds out of necessity.
For the modern mind memories are data with no central unity.
Knowledge is disseminated, but not integrated.
Disintegration is how the illusion of free-speech remains strong.
Information is accessible, but it never becomes part of a whole – it is maintained in a detached, compartmentalized state, so as to then be combined in any fanciful way.
Memories become powerless; amputated trivial recollections.
The more data is made available all the more fragmentation becomes possible.
Censorship is not necessary because the mind of the modern has no interest and no ability to integrate this raw data, this fragmentary pattern (re)cognition, into a model that may expose a higher order of patterns.
Information, knowledge, is thrown out there, in waves and none of it has any effect. The modern’s mind cannot find a unifying pattern in all this memorizing.

An example of modern compartmentalization is in reference to empiricism.
Most moderns claim it as part of their scientific outlook, but they never apply it consistently.
Sometimes appearances, sensual awareness, matters, whereas at others it does not.
Sometimes evolution is accepted as the most probable explanation for life and multiplicity, but not all parts of the theory are accepted, or considered acceptable.
Some of evolution theory is correct, whereas others are not …or others do not apply to humans.
The adopted memory of a scientific theory is selectively applied. To deal with this selectivity, the brain compartmentalizes, as it does when it cannot deal with a traumatic (re)collection. The mental model one is lead towards, if one accepts this theory as the most probable one, is not followed through consistently.
At some point the brain decides to forget.
The memory does not apply everywhere.
The process of speciation is good for explaining the production of biodiversity, but it has no application within human contexts; a different standard, memory, applies here."

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Consecration of the Herm by Bronnikov, Fedor Andreyevich; 1874

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Cancer is proliferation from rage repression.

Rage is actually connected to sleep, where one is in touch with one's double - the genii, the fylgja, the fetch, the With, etc. Neptune facilitates this connection.
But modernism's erasure of one's past, one's connection with one's daimon, disturbs sleep patterns.
The touch with one's daimon is the hidden Plutonic core of Immunology. The fetch-double literally meant "guardian", "who follows", "who keeps vigil"...
With the loss of this immune signalled by the weakening of the Herm - the guardian of the threshold and the psychopomp [Mercury/Virgo], there is a Stress build up. Rage [mars] is a son of the earth [virgo] - the capacity to renew. Fertility is health [sun] - the skin, the border being the first sign that signals vitality or sickness.

Excess stress build up leads one to the search for Energy - for Sugar.

Sugar [venus]  Depresses [saturn]  Immunity [neptune].

The need for "comfort" and "hyping of hope" necessarily dissolves boundaries to rely on others. Borders break. Liquefaction and proliferation occurs as the Filtering system is warped and cor-Rupted and Neptune goes into deterioration. The need for "surveillance" and constant vigilance on borders and friend/enemy leads to Paranoia --->stress---->cancer.

Beyond Sloterdijk's Metaphysics of Rage, the focus should be on a Metaphysics of Sleep.

Not the brain dead kind of sleeping zombie and cancer of consumptive capitalism, but sound sleep where the whole body re-Members (remembers) - becomes alert, reflective and mind-Full to the moon letting the watery glands of neptune harmonize its rocking tides to a rhythm, a liveliness - as Heraclitus says, "A person in night kindles a light for himself, since his vision has been extinguished."

Nietzsche wrote:
"Let us not be ungrateful to it, although it must certainly be confessed that the worst, the most tiresome, and the most dangerous of errors hitherto has been a dogmatist error—namely, Plato's invention of Pure Spirit and the Good in Itself. But now when it has been surmounted, when Europe, rid of this nightmare, can again draw breath freely and at least enjoy a healthier—sleep, we, Whose Duty is Wakefulness Itself, are the heirs of all the strength which the struggle against this error has fostered... the struggle against Plato, or—to speak plainer, and for the "people"—the struggle against the ecclesiastical oppression of millenniums of Christianity (For Christianity is platonism for the people.)" [BGE]


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PostSubject: Re: Sleep, Anger Management and the Cancer Industry Fri Aug 08, 2014 2:50 pm

Damn. Yes.

Some first associations ---

"sound sleep where the whole body re-Members"

In recent months I have discovered two methods for improving my sleep, 'sleeping like a submarine' as a naval technology manufacturer called the most recent one; an especially designed piece of orgonite, a product of a recently befriended magicians life long study of chemistry and electricity of consciousness. The first method, learned a few months before is a meditation technique provided by the Ishaya's, who are of all Christ-claiming sects I know of (which says quite a lot) the only ones who possess the drive of a Krishna type anointed one, the self-perpetuating wheel of affirmation, the irresistible happiness of power. That is literally what the technique does, very ingeniously, and as effortless as the smallest mental task - to create a wheel of affirmation throughout the four corners of the psyche (the astrological crosses). It is designed to give the semantic tendencies in the mind a center, a ground term, in terms of which that which occupies the mind is affirmed and made quiet. This is a re-membering in the psychological sense, where the orgonite simply creates a field of rest-activity, it draws out the electrochemical conditions of life in the atmosphere, which it roots in the elemental tension between metal and carbon.

Neptune - yes, definitely.

The aspect Neptune-Moon, in whichever form, is the way in which Neptune enters the body. In any chart we can see this susceptibility. Dancers have Neptune - Moon aspects, so do prolific writers of drama, and intuitive scientists like Reich - it's a very benefic aspect because it is very difficult -  it forces to human to address his susceptibility as a creative asset - because in the other case it becomes a creative malfunction.
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PostSubject: Re: Sleep, Anger Management and the Cancer Industry Sun Aug 10, 2014 1:11 am

Deuterium-depleted water (DDW), also known as light water, is water which has a lower concentration of deuterium than occurs naturally. Deuterium a heavier isotope of hydrogen which has, in addition to its one proton, a neutron, that roughly doubles the mass of the hydrogen atom.

Experiments have shown that consumption of "light" water may be beneficial as an adjunct to chemotherapy. Wikipedia.


The ground water of today contains high levels of "heavy water", which is called "deuterium water", by comparison to Arctic snow which has the lowest levels of "deuterium".  Plants grown in very low deuterium water, grow at a slower rate.  Hungary Central Research Institute for Physics and the Semmelweis University of Medicine, the main Main topics of the Symposium were:

• Deuterium Depletion in Cancer Research and Oncotherapy
• Deuterium Depletion and Diabetes Research
• Deuterium Depletion in Anti-Aging Research,

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report from a study on this that cancer growth is slowed down or stopped by water that is "deuterium" depleted.  This study is consistent with observations that when the "deuterium" content of the water is increased, the mutations in the cell DNA increases also.  The mutations result in imperfect replication of the cells and is one of the reasons why we age and eventually grow old.  It stands to reason that if the mutation rate is lower in a low deuterium environment, that if the water in our cells had a much lower "heavy" water content, we would age much more slowly and perhaps less prone to cancer.
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PostSubject: Re: Sleep, Anger Management and the Cancer Industry Thu Sep 03, 2015 11:35 am

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I do see a connection between psychology and disease.
The mind and the body are not separate entities.
They are the same Becoming viewed within different contexts.
Appearance is NOT superficial. In an appearance we see the emergent unity’s overall condition, but because the mind’s health can be hidden, faked, and does not become apparent until later – this is due to the difference in speed between energy (manifesting as thoughts) and matter.
Now, is the body affected by the condition of the mind or is the mind affected by the condition of the body?

Well, for me, one cannot view it in this way because both the mind (brain activities) and the body (the rest of the activities we call physical body,) are one and the same.
We might say that the brain, being the nervous system’s hub, is an interpreter of all the functions that participate in maintaining or Becoming an organism.

This is why disease in the body can make itself perceptible to the brain in the form of dreams, and it is also why organic effects, such as organ weakness, has a profound affect no character, as well as mood.

Emotion, as a friend of mine once put it, is the “nexus between the mind and body” union-to-be, and so it reflects the overall condition of both mind and body, because the mind is the product of a brain which is a part of what we call body.
Because the brain can only think in abstractions (fabricated, simplified, generalized absolutes) it feels alienated by the body (itself a manifestation of the Flux) for not living up to tis ideals, or ideas.
It then struggles to make the body, a part of the Flux veering towards entropy, to conform to its ideal, which is a projection of a desirable order.
I think cancer is simply the consequence of too many cellular replications.  

Every time a cell splits it is affected by mutations. These can create what we call cancer…a mutation that fails to conform to the organism’s ordering.

New agers will say that thinking positive thoughts will rid the body of any disease.

I think they have the order of causation blurred...I think that if your body is on it's way to cure a disease, as a byproduct, it will naturally form positive thoughts, as a byproduct of it's ability to cure. I do not believe in free-will, but I do believe mental states also effect bodily states, but bodily states more effect mental states. In sickness the body merges itself to consciousness so the mind and body become one.

A body that's suceptible to aging is less susceptible to cancer, a body that is susceptible to cancer is less susceptible to aging, cancer is not the raging monster, the big demon they make it out to be, it is simply a part of life, cell reproduction is a needed entity for the organism, cancer is the result of the organism going slightly out of balance. Cancer is not a demon that can be slain, it is a byproduct of the anti-aging mechanism.

The fat mothers do their little social contributions by walking 60 miles to find the cure...how idiotic. It's inflated value, walking 60 miles is not a tangible good, work is not being done, the money generated is virtual, inflated, has no value other than imaginary. The companies have little interest in a cure, when Germans have better cancer treatment overseas and they don't even care to copy the same methods.
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