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PostSubject: The Higher, the Fewer Fri Aug 08, 2014 3:02 pm

Here's how I see it -

Rather than perceiving the elite as essentially masculine, and the revolutionary, be he an elitist, egalitarian or nihilistic one, as essentially feminine, I see them both as essentially masculine, where as the willing serfs and slaves are fundamentally feminine.
The former are players, they're playing the game, the latter are pawns. That being said, serfs and slave can benefit from their servitude, it all depends on particular genes, with particular memes, inhabiting particular times and spaces.

As a civilization begins, it begins as many, as many corporations, governments, races and religions.
Take Europe for example circa 1500 ACE.
The black death shook the very foundation & integrity of Christendom. What was once homogenous (Aristotelian Catholicism), fractured, shattered and splintered into innumerable philosophies and religions.
In such a state, masculinity was rampant and femininity at an all time low.

So civilizations begin pluralistically.
If they're well endowed, with relatively good genes, memes, wealth and resources, they can expand, conquering others, either displacing them, like in the case of early North America, or raping them, like in the case of South America.
Slowly but surely, as a civilization develops itself, the bigger fish eat the smaller fish, in everything - economically, politically, racially, religiously, even linguistically, they either displace otherness, or amalgamate, assimilate and incorporate otherness, until we're left with only a handful of competing memes and genes, or, 1 (genetic and psychosocial monism).
Such is a time of waning masculinity and increasing femininity, where there's no frontiers, and everything has been consolidated and monopolized by fewer and fewer men.
The higher, the fewer.
Although some societies might be founded on more egalitarian principles, the more a civilization civilizes itself and cultivates otherness, the more elitist it tends to become.

As a civilization grows fatter and fatter, it becomes decadent and debauched, and all sorts of physical and spiritual diseases begin to proliferate, to the point where its antagonists, both domestic and foreign, once held at bay by its mighty armies, make a comeback, and the civilization collapses, and after the dust has settled, a new one is born, with new opportunities for conquest, competition and cooperation, sometimes greater, sometimes lesser than the one that preceded it.
All civilizations decline, the only question is - when, not if, and how gracefully they age, perish, and if they're able to pass the torch onto their descendants.

We're living in age of diminishing frontiers. The last one may be this one, the internet, the last chance for individuals to challenge the establishment, be they dropouts, or entrepreneurs, or revolutionaries, or survivalists.
Of course, it's possible they gave us such, merely for the purposes of tracking us, and implementing a global currency + an international identification card.
Assuming the decline isn't imminent, if we continue growing at this rate, eventually and inevitably we'll wind up with global governance.
Observe the EU, countries who once fought for their independence are now giving it away to unelected oligarchs.
It's only a matter of time before there's a North American Union, there's already a South American one, and an African one, and an Asian one, ours is in the works.
There will be a convergence of corporation and state, of science and religion, to the point where you won't be able to tell them apart.
The world is moving towards unity, and feminization, and unless new frontiers, new opportunities for growth present themselves, the feminization and subjugation of the many, by the few, will proceed.
At some point, wealth and power begin to spoil, it all depends on the particularities and specificities, each civilization is at once similar, and unique.


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PostSubject: Re: The Higher, the Fewer Fri Aug 08, 2014 3:54 pm

I like the new pic, eyes. You look like a little beast watching from a dark corner.
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PostSubject: Re: The Higher, the Fewer Fri Aug 08, 2014 4:31 pm

phoneutria wrote:
I like the new pic, eyes. You look like a little beast watching from a dark corner.
Thank you.

Then I look how I feel.
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PostSubject: Re: The Higher, the Fewer Fri Aug 08, 2014 4:55 pm

If civilization continues to "progress", if the globe continues to globalize, which memes will win out in the end, and which genes? Even genetically, and linguistically, the world is becoming increasingly homogenous. It's been said that man is 95 parts chimp and 5 parts ant or bee. History is the story of how one species, came to dominate the others, and how races, cultures, classes and individuals within that species, came to dominate the others. Nature abhors parity, nonetheless, things have become increasingly hierarchical, in the previous several millennia. Has man become the black hole, or the sun, around which terrestrial life and even nonlife dances? How long can such be sustained? In the end, there can be only 1, that's what the new world order is. Will it be a capitalist 1, a communist 1, a Christian 1, an Islamic 1, some else, does it matter? You see because that's where the world is headed, short of a major catastrophe, we're at a point in time where we'll either have global governance, or we'll complete and utter chaos and destruction. Both scenarios looks bleak.
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PostSubject: Re: The Higher, the Fewer Fri Aug 08, 2014 5:09 pm

There's other ways to diverge besides politically, one can do so economically, spiritually or philosophically, one can attempt to create a suborder within the existing order, consisting of solely oneself, or consisting of many individuals, or one could simply do without order altogether, without necessarily coming into direct confrontation with the powers that be. As Western Civilization advances, which is becoming civilization itself, and more wealth and power is conferred and monopolized, we're seeing a diversification from within. Where as before, there were thousands of homogenous states, now, there's a only a few heterogeneous states. Just as the sun grows bigger, consuming more mass, more of that internal mass conflicts with itself, generating fire and friction. This may be one stratagem for averting totalitarianism.
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PostSubject: Re: The Higher, the Fewer Fri Aug 08, 2014 5:30 pm

Homogenization can occur several ways, either one group of genes and/or memes destroys all, many or most others, or consume them, or congresses with them, producing something somewhat new. 3 paths towards globalization. You see Hitler's Nazism and Mussolini's fascism were just as globalist as America and the USSR. Different means, similar ends - homogenization. The real conservative or traditionalist is an isolationist, by definition. Of course there is a time for everything, no society can be one or the other forever, and both have their pluses and minuses. Even in terms of language, we're witnessing homogenization, as English takes over the globe. Will it become the one world language in the new world order, or will be Indian, or Chinese? Perhaps a hybridization of languages, or a manufacturing of a new world language?
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PostSubject: Re: The Higher, the Fewer Fri Aug 08, 2014 7:06 pm

Factor = environment.

Genes do not replicate themselves perfectly.
Perfect is another way of implying the absolute.
In the replication process some divergence occurs.

Problem is time.
Replications happens at a faster rate than environmental effects can become noticeable, or can accumulate to a level where they will become obvious.
Mutation is this aggregate environmental effect.
The effect is so gradual nobody notices.

Like when you live with a young child you do not notice the slight change in its height until the aggregate effects becomes pronounced.
"Pronounced" is relative to the observing mind's perceptive acuity.
For someone who does not live with the child the change is more noticeable, because his reference point is, using memory, in the past.


Factor = heritability.

The genetic code passed on is altered continuously.
Saying sum of all nurturing = nature, means including the individual who is going to pass on the genes.
All data, up and including the moment the genetic material was produced and then genetic mixing (fertilization)are passed on, are included.
The sperm is produced continuously and so it is the most updated genetic code - whereas the female's ovum are produced early on in her life and will not carry her lifetime experiences to the degree the male's genetic material will - other than environmental effects the ovum is static, once it is produced by the body, whereas the male is continuously adding to his.

Once more time is an element.
Whatever small data is accumulated during a lifetime, and incorporated into the sperm/ovum is but a small fraction in comparison to the entirety of nurturing being exchanged.
the sum being the sum of all the past effects = nature.

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PostSubject: Re: The Higher, the Fewer Fri Aug 08, 2014 9:07 pm

Genes<>Memes...

Memetic codes also mutate due to external environmental effects.
The language slowly morphs including a slight variant in the exchange.
A linguistic exchange includes in it the entire history of the peoples that used the particular language (code), up and including the moment of the exchange.
Of course, like with genetic reproduction the intent is to pass on an exact copy of the data with as little external effects as possible - because these are unpredictable and unknown - their affect upon the outcome are unforeseeable.

Genetic code has a more difficult task, as no consciousness is required, the exchange is unconscious and the participants need not be aware of any of this.
With memes the process is more controlled. The code, the language, can be copied and placed on an external to all exchanged format - books (dictionaries) - where it can be referenced and compared with the ongoing mutation of the language in question.
Some mutations do seep through, as some language do revise their dictionaries, but some are more stringent and refuse to integrate new data into their codes.
The official code, the Book of reference, like the Bible, becomes a controlling central code. The participants may use the language in any way they wish but the official code is like a frozen genome , disciplining the language back to its roots, or the point in space/time when the official code was documented.

English is a more flexible memetic code.
It adopts foreign terms into its logic, and defines them in accordance with its principles - the alien is made common.
French, Greek etc. a less flexible ones.
The difference is notable.
One openly integrates environmental effects, while the others resist environmentally produced mutations.

The different must be made similar - turning it from a source of stress into a source of reflective comforting.
The code is a way of integrating the alien into a uniformity.
Like with the genetic code the memetic code is only code.
It is how this code interacts with the world, how it copes and deals with the threatening alien otherness, which determines its essence.
Difference between genes and memes is that the former act unconsciously whereas the latter are the very definition of consciousnesses being directed.
If we apply the same methods to genes as we do to memes we would call it eugenics.
But here the top<>down method makes it less obvious.
The meme does not directly manipulate genetic reproduction but it sets up the premises that will guide it, and make it seem an act of free-will.

From gene to meme, which is what we call natural selection, we have the from meme to gene, which is the Modern method of social selection.
In both cases it is from the ovum's side where the selecting begins.
Feminization would mean the making of all members within a memetic logic, men and women, into ovarian selecting agencies.

The code, as a carrier of data that directs mental processes, is different to how this data will be applied.
Genetic code if sheltered will atrophy.
What potentials are hidden within it will never blossom.
Memetic code when it is applied internally voiding any external reference points will also result in mental atrophy.
Uniformity is a form of atrophy. It eliminates all stressful alien elements by excluding them or my integrating them, after they've been selectively digested and shaped to fit into its premises.

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PostSubject: Re: The Higher, the Fewer Sat Aug 09, 2014 1:56 am

Global/Universal feminization is incontrovertible, and to deny and derelict it would require none other than a disadvantageous member without a faculty or capability of discernment, and therefore of similarity/commonalty, or recognition of one's own kind, as they are unable to notice the system/ideal which that they promote and of which they base their lives is what they are in toto living in; i.e., a loss of perception of reality.
Democracy, for instance is a feminine principle, where anyone aside from a meritless qualifier of age, has a voice, naively perceived as it being of the same measure and stature as more superior and power individuals.

The internet may be the last major means, Way, into finding the remainder of genetics ends through connecting with fundamentally, even derived, commonality, which at this point would be extending the parameters to an entire Race rather than subraces: e.g., Aryan exclusivity.
Is it not too late to start at the parts/splinters/divergence and then work up to the whole? We've tried that: it's the foundational/cornerstone of modern organic science.
It becomes chaotic when the internet is perceived as the end: that memeic (used here for a point of reference and for common syntax) is all that is needed; it then ispo facto becomes monosided. People are going to have to lay down their virtual personae and put on the one which is compelled, out of necessity, to act.


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PostSubject: Re: The Higher, the Fewer Sat Aug 09, 2014 8:38 pm

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Democracy, for instance is a feminine principle, where anyone aside from a meritless qualifier of age, has a voice, naively perceived as it being of the same measure and stature as more superior and power individuals.
According to me, alphas and betas = masculinity, deltas, gammas, sigmas and zetas (if you will) = androgyny, and omegas = femininity.
There's more to these categories than political and economic rank, there's corresponding psychosocial and even physiological characteristics.
There's also plenty of overlap between them, so someone in a alpha or beta socioeconomic or sociopolitical position, could have an omega personality, and vice versa.

I don't have the energy to get into exactly what I mean by these categories at the moment, but you could probably sort of figure out what I mean on your own.

Alphas (lords), betas (vassals) and omegas (serfs/slaves) are pretty straightforward.
Deltas (individualists).
Gammas (communists).
Sigmas (radical, revolutionary alphas).
Zetas (dropouts).
I mean something slightly different by these terms than their conventional meaning, so looking them up, might not help.
You see, lumping everyone into two, masters/slaves, like Nietzsche did, was far too simplistic for me.
What they are, is anthropological archetypes, that encompass many things, from politics to economics, from philosophy and psychology to physiology and sociology, racial and sexual dimensions leave out.
None of these types are essentially more natural or superior.
It's, relative.

Additionally, there's R/K types, which add another dimension to things.
K encompasses alphas, betas, and yes, even omegas (think chimps).
R encompasses deltas and gammas (think bonobos).
Sigmas are radical, revolutionary Ks.
Zetas are social and/or sexual dropouts, they could be physical and/or mentally disabled, or they could be schizoid or schizotypal.
In the pagan and medieval eras, Zetas would've ended up as shaman, priests, or otherwise, derelicts/vagrants, depending on the individual.
The ones who're sexually active, could be likened to gorillas and orangutans, in that the males are largely are sexual but largely asocial.
They're islands, or about as isolated as a homosapien could be.

In the phenomenal world, no individual or society fits absolutely into either type, there's plenty of overlap betwixt them.
Nonetheless, I think most people fit into one or two, mainly.

The US was founded on a balance of R/K principles, which became increasingly R sexually, racially, psychosocially and overtly overtime, as it became increasingly K economically, politically and covertly.

What I've been describing is what I call horizontal R/K (think Bonobo/Chimp), there's also a lateral R/K (think herd/pack animal).
While homosapien is predominantly a K type, we have R tendencies, some individuals and races more than others. As societies advance, they typically become a little more K, as wealth and resources become more abundant, biologically and culturally, which is explains the rise of leftism. We transition from a society of competitors and producers to one of cooperators and consumers, and of course, there's plenty of overlap in the middle. As we become more K, we become more weaker, and then our enemies, both external and internal, have an opportunity to overtake us.

I'm going to stop there, because I need to give this more thought, before we proceed.



We don't live in a democracy, we live in a Pseudodemocracy.
Democracy is an ideal, it's never existed.
Ancient Greece was what I refer to as a direct timocracy.
Every other so called democracy has either been an oligarchy, a representative democracy, or a Pseudodemocracy, where power is actually held by oligarchs.
As civilizations develop, it becomes increasingly difficult to challenge the status quo directly.
However, there are other means.
Like I said, one may be able to create suborders within the order.
These orders could consist of a lone individual, doing his own thing, creating his own values independently of the establishment, and pursuing them as much as possible, largely within the limits of the laws of the land, or a significant minority of individuals.
In other words, a subculture.
KTS itself, is a sort of subculture.
The internet has afforded us more opportunity to create subcultures within the culture.
So far, our generation has failed to take advantage of this opportunity.
However, we're still young, half of us are in our mid 20s or younger, plenty of time to start something.
Short of major environment, economic catastrophe or martial law, there's little to no hope of directly, overtly challenging the establishment, those of us who can, but choose not to fully take part in social life as it is, will have to utilize insidious and subversive tactics.
Additionally, it's not all bad, we're some of the freest and best fed serfs/slaves who've ever

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The internet may be the last major means, Way, into finding the remainder of genetics ends through connecting with fundamentally, even derived, commonality, which at this point would be extending the parameters to an entire Race rather than subraces: e.g., Aryan exclusivity.
Where do you live, North America, Europe, somewhere else?
I think there's little hope of North America preserving its heritage, short of an economic or environmental catastrophe.
Europe has a better chance, as its roots are deeper.
I think it's up to individuals in North America to preserve their heritage.
We can't count on "our" governments, who've opened the floodgates to Africa, Asia and South America, and have absolutely no intention of closing them.

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Is it not too late to start at the parts/splinters/divergence and then work up to the whole? We've tried that: it's the foundational/cornerstone of modern organic science.
It becomes chaotic when the internet is perceived as the end: that memeic (used here for a point of reference and for common syntax) is all that is needed; it then ispo facto becomes monosided. People are going to have to lay down their virtual personae and put on the one which is compelled, out of necessity, to act.
Yes, at some point mimetics have to translate into action.
However, politically speaking, that's easier said than done.
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