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PostSubject: Re: Forums Tue Jun 03, 2014 1:07 am

Satyr wrote:

My only lesson to him:
Do not waste your time to feces;  
And yet you do, over and over, this thread a record of a, well, an obsession...
Let's see...

here's a recent record of it...

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I'm banned.
I use a friend's moniker, because they can spot i.p. addresses, to look in.
You do not seem to take the advice you give to your son.
If you actually clean up your act, you won't even have to say it to him, let alone us.
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PostSubject: Re: Forums Tue Jun 03, 2014 6:07 am

Kovacs wrote:
Satyr wrote:

My only lesson to him:
Do not waste your time to feces;  
And yet you do, over and over, this thread a record of a, well, an obsession...
Let's see...

here's a recent record of it...

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I'm banned.
I use a friend's moniker, because they can spot i.p. addresses, to look in.
You do not seem to take the advice you give to your son.
If you actually clean up your act, you won't even have to say it to him, let alone us.



He's already addressed and written about what you've said and continue to say, before; if you are unable to hold and synthesize what appears to You as 'contradiction'; that's your own limitation, you deal with it, or don't; a man has more than one facet to him;



Satyr:

"I consider it my duty to defend reality.
Too much has been lost in the name of politeness, civility and political-correctness.
Enough is enough.
One allows imbeciles to think they are making sense, and they grow bold.

Normally nobody would give a care what a dumb-cow and a hyper-masculine man-child have to say on any matter....natural selection would take care of things, but in this age where sheltering is a part of the equation, and dumbing-down is how institutions enforce their control, this is becoming a threatening epidemic.

If nobody says anything of it from some misdirected sense of compassion, or some social rule of politeness stays our tongues and we remain silent, then much more will be lost.
Humouring the retards, ignoring them, will not make them go away....they vote, they are manipulated with ease....and all of us must face the consequences of this.

Studying them can help us construct a response, something to protect the core of what it means to be human, rather than simply pretending to be humanitarian.

A preliminary step towards determining a more effective course of action is to analyze the environment, the situation.
Hypocrisy is definitely a part of it...because some of us know that this altruism is really selfish, an indirect egotism, but if we do not expose it then it will become convincing to those few who still have a chance to break free from its siren call.

This is a war, people....a war like no other.
Politeness, civility, does not work against the zombies, the brain-dead.

In a world of increasing entropy, and surrounded by idiots with "positive" messages, and nothing more, to remind them of what the "negative" is, if nothing else, a worthy duty for any rational being."

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PostSubject: Re: Forums Tue Jun 03, 2014 8:15 pm

Have you, dear, come up with a response... a course of action?
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PostSubject: Re: Forums Tue Jun 03, 2014 8:26 pm

Of all the members here, I think [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] is waging this type of war the most effectively, and admirably.

In war one does not take prisoners, and (s)he saves his love, trust, and sympathy for his own kind.
The rest are to be fodder.

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PostSubject: Re: Forums Tue Jun 03, 2014 8:51 pm

KT is popular, these days, amongst the sheeple.

The Brown Cow had to take notice, once more mistaking her average motives for a universal truth.
If there is one person on ILP that has no reason to be smug, it is this Brown Cow.
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] the cattle bray...and they hear our "Go Away!" mistaking it for something familiar.

And here  [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] the shit-Smears, the calf suckling on cow milk, wanted to lay a trap for poor old Satyr to fall for.
Nothing more cowardly than a man-child calling out to the herd "He is here! Help! He is amongst us!" with tactics that are meant to make it less obvious, amongst the retards he appears impressive to.
But subtlety is not the strong-suit of a mindless buffoon who brags and brags and has zero to show for it.  

A way of minimizing the possibility that he will be exposed as other-than MENSA material, and as "just" another retard, high on money and blow, finding self-worth in sticking his tiny penis in the vaginas of fatherless, sluts, and lost, retarded females that'll suck your dick, or any dick, for some blow - of which there is ample a supply in the 'land of the free, home of the brave'.
Hopefully none of that spilled genetic material will ever cause any big stir.
Most of it will trickle down the thighs of dirty, mindless, whores, or it may, with a bit more creative pinpointing, splatter on their vacant faces, marking them as what they always wanted to be.
Just because.  

Satyr gets caught, because Satyr wants to be seen as who he is.
Satyr gets banned to save imbeciles from having to prove how much of a "coward" he is....after they close the doors on him - taunting from behind the fence.
And yet Satyr's "real" name is more known than those of the morons who only expose the trivialities of their empty lives, inflated into a hyperbolic display of insecurity.
What can be more risky that to speak your mind, honestly, clearly, publicly...when what is being said comes into direct conflict with the prevailing mythologies/beliefs?
It's easy to be "brave" when you are in-line with whatever is popular.

Why does Satyr go to such extremes?
[Lyssa gave a possible answer, above]

Where would a hunter go for an easy meal?
Is not a wolf "obsessed" with sheep, from the sheep's desperate point of view, when he circles around them, day in and day out, devouring the strays, and doing's his duty as nature's agency?
Would not one of them not turn to another and ask:
"What the fuck's his problem? Is he so desperate? Does he need us that much?" trying to shame the wolf into stopping his endless game?
Is the wolf ill, or is hunger now a sickness, rather than a sign of health, and an insatiable appetite?
Is need, now, to be the next evil?  

And...
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]....how charming.
If Satyr is to be considered ill-mannered, sick, an attention whore, a hypocrite, a guru, a wannabe, a sad lonely man who abuses his son...then let it be by these manimals, and in relation to these examples of human excrement.

Let him be their "negative" monstrosity.

What is Satan to the Judeo-Christian mind?
The negation of his sheltered delusions.

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PostSubject: Re: Forums Tue Jun 03, 2014 11:46 pm

What's the point of using words like "darling" "dear" "sweetheart" etc (like this MagsJ person at ILP and phoneutria) without any substance behind it to give the word spark... makes me cringe... it's like an attempt to patronize the other while ultimately being ineffective and shallow... Or worse, it's just their "style"
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PostSubject: Re: Forums Wed Jun 04, 2014 3:39 am

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Never heard of those forums.. sorry, but KTS was a mysogynistic/racist place,
Misogynist and racist? I didn't realize that people here hate women so much, and black people. Assuming that we do hate women and black people, why? Is there a reason I hate women and black people? Oh, wait, I know the answer. It's because I fear them. I'm threatened by them.

This is how these pieces of shit actually think.


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and they must have realised quite recently that they would/could not attract the amount of traffic they wanted operating like that,
It's all about the fame, isn't it? Popularity is everything. Let's vote on it.


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so they obviously changed up, but one can't hide behind what one really is so the ruse won't hold up forever.
Who's hiding? Which forum banned which members? Who is hiding from whom?


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You (and anyone else) are welcome to post there all you want, but funny how they don't want any of you posting here
Hahahahaha, I can't take these shit stains seriously anymore, quite a joke.

They're too predictable now.
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PostSubject: Re: Forums Wed Jun 04, 2014 3:48 am

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What's the point of using words like "darling" "dear" "sweetheart" etc (like this MagsJ person at ILP and phoneutria) without any substance behind it to give the word spark... makes me cringe... it's like an attempt to patronize the other while ultimately being ineffective and shallow... Or worse, it's just their "style"

Yeah, I usually find that kind of off-putting, all words meant for a child or a dim-witted woman. What I love instead is the word baby. It rings perfect in so many different contexts, such that its common use in my vocabulary. Can be oddly upright and charismatic or even reassuring. While those others always provide distance, it instead gives a hint to the subject that its along with the ride.
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PostSubject: Re: Forums Wed Jun 04, 2014 1:26 pm

Sauwelios in absence wrote:
Funny, because I'd already read that post, and consider it an example of his seeing an absence of force where I see a force, and for the same reason you consider it an example of the "opposite". The thing is that my experience tells me that, if I'd point out to him that there's no such thing as absolute darkness, he would say something like how the absolute is an ideal and it's foolish of me to even mention it... That's Satyr: heads I win, tails you lose. In any case, I suspect he may not even understand high school math. The fact that there's no absolute darkness, cold, etc. means there's only absolute light and heat, etc. 0.0000000001 may be relatively small compared to 10^10, but both are absolutely positive. Satyr's main theory is that there's only lack. Lack, however, is only _relative_ absence; there can only be lack where there's absolute presence. Was it not Dion Fortune who commended the Romans for having only positive numbers and no concept of zero?
Sauwelios is trying to defend absolutism by using mathematics, which is a method, a language, that must create absolutes if it is to begin symbolizing what is in Flux.

Presence is relative, and absence is relative to it. The observer, in this case the human mind and its abstractions, presents itself as a static, standard, and begins by projecting, in dualistic ways, the 1/0.
These are no more than artistic devices, orientation tools, projections.
Of course these mental models, of which the mathematical language is the most abstract, begin in a simpler form as edible/inedible....safe/threat....good/bad....friend/foe....no-thing/some-thing...good/evil....God/Satan.  

I've already explained my views on how this emerged out of the simplest mechanism of on/off, as in on=neural pulse flowing through, stimulating, a neural cell, and off=no neural pulse is stimulating neural cell.  
It will be noted that both neural bio-energy pulse and neural cell are fluid, as in not static...but only so relative to each other is one faster and the other slower...creating the difference of energy/matter.

Lack, interpreted as need/suffering, is a human interpretation of this absence of a static thing, an absolute.
Need/suffering are not bad...they remind us that we exist, and they make our existence possible.
They also force us to Will, to act willfully as in a towards the projected object/objective.
The foundation of procreation and creativity.

Even the conception of a whole, a universe, is highly speculative and based on a human projection that demands to be enclosed within binary points in space/time, so as to measure reality and to abstract it by simplifying/generalizing it.
The concept of "whole", in particular, involves a projection of awareness (self) in some "outside".
You can call anything a one, or a uni...or a nil and a void, because these are human ideas that refer only to human abstractions, and are codified into symbols.

The very idea that a lack must refer to a presence, is akin to saying emptiness is an idea that presupposes a containment vessel.
And this is true, because this is the only way a human mind can conceptualize.
It must construct a "thing", ambiguously, so as to then make the no-thing comprehensible.
Both are nothing more than human constructs participating in the same conceptual paradigm, and both, if pushed to their logical end represent a projection of non-existence.

The counter-intuitive idea that life, existence, is this in-between, condition, that is neither a thing or a nothing requires an artistic mind.
And like an artist one can only hope to symbolize, reproduce, the real, never create it.  

Now we are entering into the area of mysticism, the mysterious, where spirituality, and artistry must take over.
And this is where we must take care not to overstep our boundaries and allow our minds to detach from the perceived, annihilation it or dismissing it as an illusion.  
This is where Paganism merges with Organic Philosophy, as it has been called and as the ancient Greeks, and because of them, the Germans, including Spengler, Heidegger, Nietzsche and some notable others take over.

And this is where the spiritual aspect of philosophy must be reintroduced into discourse, so as to not create an Alexandrian world.
A spirituality not promising an other-world, but an understanding of this world. And so the importance of a balance between Apollo and Dionysus, the masculine and the feminine, where one dominates, controls (reason, masculine) but the other is not denied its place (emotion, intuition, feminine).  

All we know is that there is Flux, fluidity if you wish to only use the linear conception of time as a towards increasing entropy.
As far as we know, life is only possible in this direction, as a (re)action to it - ordering in the disordering.

Now, I know how this leaves an open-ended question...and that's exactly the point.
It is this openness that permits for the idea of Will to enter the scene as a freeing agency.    

Finally I think Sauwelios has been seduced by the Jews, and is now interpreting his old master in Modern ways, trying to soften his impact, but even if we are to assume that he understands his master the best, having spent so many years at his feet, this still does not mean that he is correct.
Nietzsche is not the Jesus of the Modern age, for some...for others he might be a kind of Messiah...and Sauwelios is no Apostle, though he is turning Messianic.
All Nietzsche did was modernize pre-Socratic Hellenism, and Indo-European Paganism, which would also include the Hindu culture, from where his mentor, Schopenhauer, drew his inspiration.
He is to be commended for that, as all the German thinkers should.
I consider the German school of thought second only to the Greeks, and far more pragmatic, being that they are Germans, after all.

Other than that his contributions to philosophy were not groundbreaking, nor anything different, outside the fields of psychology and sociology which the Greeks had not fully developed. There he is more interesting than, the other Jew, Freud.

Heidegger is a far more interesting meta-physician and political thinker, but not much of a psychologist.
His part in Nazism was not enough to dismiss his brilliance.

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PostSubject: Re: Forums Wed Jun 04, 2014 9:10 pm

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Non-whites aren't discussed they're abusively-berated, and females are belittled for their replies - I'm sure that KTS is welcoming the traffic from ILP.

I asked her to provide proof. Doubt I'll see it. At best, she could pull some quotes from certain posters and then use that to shame the whole forum, guilt by association (while avoiding the criticism said poster received from other posters).
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PostSubject: Re: Forums Wed Jun 04, 2014 9:32 pm

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Non-whites aren't discussed they're abusively-berated, and females are belittled for their replies - I'm sure that KTS is welcoming the traffic from ILP.

I asked her to provide proof.  Doubt I'll see it.  At best, she could pull some quotes from certain posters and then use that to shame the whole forum, guilt by association (while avoiding the criticism said poster received from other posters).

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KT, and I, are receiving a lot of coverage these days.
It's bland, boring, and stupid, but it does show a certain stress being expressed.

Birds of a feather flock together...and it only takes a shared enemy to bring them closer, to be studied as they deal with each others animosity.

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PostSubject: Re: Forums Thu Jun 05, 2014 1:36 pm

Perhaps, the misunderstanding being from two directions.

One, represented by Sauwelios, is stuck on absolutism and can only comprehend in those terms.
Sauwelios has spent years in his masters shadow, like a good bitch, and now he's found a new mentor to harmonize the old master with the new one.
He's trying to combine oil and water, or blood and shit.
A Jew, through and through.
Very sad, given his potential.
  
The other, the douche-bag, is more concerned with street-cred, and because he is so obsessed with presenting himself as unique, and special, and happy, he assumes that anyone who receives attention, taking it away from him, must also be the same.

What is presented here, by Satyr, is not new.
That's the, fuckin', point.
It is old and obvious, and right in front of everyone's eyes.
But cowards and imbeciles do not see, and are afraid to look.

And this is fine by me.
My target audience is not them, the rabble, the herd, but those who are amongst them, in hiding.

Speaking about the world, reality, which we all have access to but few the eyes for, is not about creating something new, but about uncovering, revealing, what is seen but not approved by all.  

Why does Satyr go to ILP?
Because a hunter goes to the barn, before he goes off into the woods to find prey.

Where else can someone study human depravity, modernity and its decay, other than where these types congregate, bragging, flirting, playing mind-games, sharing casual banter, claiming to have high I'Q's while offering no evidence of it?
Where else can a wannabe street-hustler, proud of his infantile psychology, worshiping jungle-bunnies, because of fame and fortune, who lower European culture down to African Ebonics, sit next to a brown cow, both claiming MENSA membership?

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Now, read the coming responses.
They will be classic herd defensiveness.

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PostSubject: Re: Forums Thu Jun 05, 2014 2:55 pm

As been mentioned before, these online forums, especially ILP, represent the whole macrocosm, extending to include all of "western culture". So what lessons can become learned from ILP? Liberalism dominates, egalitarianism, utilitarianism, capitalism, leftism, marxism, secularism, humanism, feminism. Basically these "thinkers" are secular humanists. They are christians, or jews, minus the "God" part. They follow all the old rules and regulations, same thoughts and logic, but just subtract the praying to almighty. Exactly. The. Same.

If you become proficient enough with your philosophy, then you begin to realize that their words are actually not even their "own". They don't own their thoughts. They inherited them. They copied them, as Lyssa copy pastes text after text on here too. They are not the source of their thoughts. They are not the origin, not the authors. They are not responsible for their thoughts and beliefs. In fact, they bear little connection to them.

They have thoughts....but they don't know why they think what they think. And they don't know why they feel what they feel. Most of them are about the feelings, not the thoughts. Because most of them are women, bent on emotions. They only listen and wait for the trigger words, "racism", "nazi", "sexism", etc. In this way you can lay simple traps which they willingly, repeatedly fall into. They don't care about contradictions or remaining logically consistent. They don't care.

And most of them even don't care the reasons why anything is as it is. This defeats the "philosophy" part of ILP. These maggots are not their to do anything close to "philosophy". What they understand of philosophy, is repeating what previous great "philosophers" said. They don't investigate, but instead, only repeat.

Their minds are on repeat. They are repeats of their genetics, of their family heritage, of their genetic inheritance. Eternally recurring repeats. They will make the same mistakes and never even want to know why.

That's the thing, I've discovered. These faggots have no passion. No desire. No need to know, to learn, to understand.

They completely lack what you could call the only, necessary "philosophical" ingredient.


They are only curious up to the point of their cowardice. And their cowardice is just far too apparent....
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PostSubject: Re: Forums Thu Jun 05, 2014 4:56 pm

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The average turd never learns.
He assumes that despite being discovered as a liar and a hypocrite once, twice, thrice, that he can up the ante and try again, raising the stakes to intimidate.
So, despite not being able to back up his claims about a "high I.Q." he presumes that his claims that he is happy, will have to do.
He arrives on ILP daily, but sees in the others arrival a weakness he feels insecure about in himself.

He assumes that the others motives are his own, and that's where he drops his trousers.
He feels a loser, and a fake, and so he assumes this about the one who shares in an activity.
He assumes that the only motive, is his motive, and so he exposes himself intimately.

Manipulating fatherless, lost, whores, and exploiting needy hedonistic/materialistic imbeciles appears to be a success story, for one as they, when you are exploiting retards, a bit beneath you...but what if the hunter is being hunted?

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PostSubject: Re: Forums Thu Jun 05, 2014 6:35 pm

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What's the point of using words like "darling" "dear" "sweetheart" etc (like this MagsJ person at ILP and phoneutria) without any substance behind it to give the word spark... makes me cringe... it's like an attempt to patronize the other while ultimately being ineffective and shallow... Or worse, it's just their "style"

I can only speak for myself, dear . It is nothing but courteousness. I always honor my interlocutor with manners, and I do my best to avoid letting the heat of arguments take that away.
A term of endearment, when used by me, is always a display of affection.
Charming.... as in intended to charm.
Pity that you don't find substance in it, dear. It's in there... deep in there.
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PostSubject: Re: Forums Thu Jun 05, 2014 7:05 pm

Satyr wrote:
KT is popular, these days, amongst the sheeple.

You make an online "career" from being an impossible dick.
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PostSubject: Re: Forums Thu Jun 05, 2014 7:06 pm

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Satyr wrote:
KT is popular, these days, amongst the sheeple.

You make an online "career" from being an impossible dick.

Sounds like you kinda agree.
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PostSubject: Re: Forums Thu Jun 05, 2014 7:38 pm

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You make an online "career" from being an impossible dick.
Are you thirsty for cock, imbesil?

That's one way you and the ILP others can find a use for yourself here. Because it sure as fuck won't be for an interesting conversation, faggot.
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PostSubject: Re: Forums Thu Jun 05, 2014 8:32 pm

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KT is popular, these days, amongst the sheeple.

You make an online "career" from being an impossible dick.
"Career"?
You mean "impact"?

Exposing duplicity and stupidity is a full time job.
I do it because it's my duty.
If I was not successful at it, in some small or big way, then nobody would pay me any heed.

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PostSubject: Re: Forums Thu Jun 05, 2014 10:21 pm

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The imagery of "spilling over", is based on this human need for Being, which accumulates, in the Flux, energies, to self-sustain and to "spill over" as growth and self creation.

There is no "what" as in "what is flowing?" because this implies, linguistically, what it then pretends to be asking for. It has already presupposed the answer in the question.

There is flow, exhibiting divergence in rate.
This, the human brain, which is an ordering tool, interprets in sensual ways: hard/soft, cold/hot, good/bad, and so on.
This Flux/Flow (capitalized, just because of emphasis) is sensed, by a self-organizing emergent unity, as a stress upon it, as a contradiction to it = need/suffering.

From this fullness/emptiness, good/bad, strong/weak, become words describing the relation of this emergent unity to the Flux - this ordering to the eternal changing which confronts it, this towards BEING/Power/Life.
The object/objective, whatever word you want to use to symbolize it, is but a human projection of what it lacks, and what it lacks is what it Wills, it is what it needs, desires, wants.

Man as creative agency...not as a slave seeking its master's validation, His Oneness, His Holy Wholeness.
But when a miser feels pride in what he is, then it is a happy day for all..and when a woman, pretending to be a man, feels proud of his femininity, then it is a moment to rejoice...because the veils have lifted and the light shines through.

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PostSubject: Re: Forums Thu Jun 05, 2014 10:38 pm

"Yes-men" find validation amongst other Yes-men, and pride in being the best at saying "Yes" to their common values.
Their "Yes" is but a "Nay" to all others, and it is this "Nay" that divides and distinguishes one from the other.

All "Yeses" begin with a negation.

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PostSubject: Re: Forums Thu Jun 05, 2014 10:49 pm

It's ridiculous that posts on ILP have to be "approved" first by a moderator before they can appear... maybe that's just for a period of time until you have x amount of posts...but still, FAR busier forums don't have this stupid rule.
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PostSubject: Re: Forums Thu Jun 05, 2014 11:59 pm

They have the post approval procedure to mimic their liberal policies about "approving" speech. They want to prescreen thoughts and allow only the "right" posters onto the site. And who are the "right" members for ILP? What constitutes the norm there, and what is its antithesis or natural enemy?
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PostSubject: Re: Forums Fri Jun 06, 2014 6:46 am

Simpletons are content with simple things: filling their bellies, manipulating other simpler simpletons, emptying their testicles on a regular basis...it's enough.

My parakeet seems happy in its little cage, with its seeds, water, and little toys.
My fish can swim for weeks from one side of its bowl to the other, not once feeling like it is missing out on something.

Exploration begins when one is already content, at leisure, full of what is required to meet the immediate needs. What remains is a 'splinter in the mind's eye' wanting to be scratched.
And those who pretend to be happy, while accusing those others they congregate with of sadness, are inadvertently showing how unhappy they really feel.
To a point where they must unload this internal sadness, masked beneath the hypocrisy, upon the others...who they go to meet, daily, to see their own misery reflected back at them....

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I did sign up over there, but couldn't get a post approved. Not that I've bothered to try all that much... barely have time to post here. I suppose my garbage is not good enough to float with theirs. How rude... no way to treat a guest, I'd say.
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PostSubject: Re: Forums Fri Jun 06, 2014 4:31 pm

What's real funny is that I'm not really what you would call a Nietzschean.
But don't tell the turds...because any word recalling pre-Socratic Hellenism and Paganism is automatically about the only idol they know who spoke about it.

When a wolf howls in the distance, even the sheep that do not get along, huddle together.
It's a binding force....creating love.

Fixed gets high, and he becomes all sentimental.
Feels camaraderie with a sheeple, sees himself in there.

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PostSubject: Re: Forums Sun Jun 08, 2014 1:53 am

If a KTS member were to come across a post like this referring to someone here, they would say

You are so obsessed with Smears, and then toss in some psychological hypotheses expressed as certainties.

Here at KTS we tell our children not to pay any attention to people like Smears, and then we.............

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Shit-Smears wrote:
"Dawkins doesn't do anything philosophical. His entire existence is as a salesman.I mean you can't be serious right?"

Right there, he delivers his self-identification card to us all.
You notice it in the ease with which he alters positions.
One moment he is laughing at race, mocking it, claiming it is absurd....and the next he admits that there are races, but nobody should be cruel about it.
In between, he declares himself a genius, a philosopher, but is unable to provide evidence for it.
He finds ways to avoid topics when they become too-deep, and go beyond his intellectual comfort zones.
He prefers to insinuate, as you will see in what follows, rather than to act.

Some would call this "trolling", and he is the first to use this term as a defensive attack, but here the word is misleading.
He does get a self-esteem boost when he makes others pay attention to him, but his need is genuine, not faked.
He actually believes himself. He's used this technique for so long it has become second-nature to him....it has buried the underlying weakness, insecurity, neediness, under a level of manufactured bravado and arrogance.

He thinks he's smart because he can make minds incomprehensible to him, react to him...pay attention to him.
He has tricked them into taking him seriously.
They've failed to see how stupid he knows he is, and they waste their energies upon him.

shit-Smears wrote:
"He's a pop-pseudoscientist who's work is intended for people who aren't reading Kant or Kripke or you know....any real philosophers."

He uses the name-dropping technique, implying that he is far above Dawkins.
His positions on Dawkins are interesting since this fella is more of a scientist dealing with evolution, and someone attacking modern religious stupidity.
Shit-Smears, the douche-bag, calls himself an atheist, no...so why this attack on Dawkins?
A ploy. He wants to become controversial...attention whoring. If he feels pressure he'll use one of his usual methods of cutting and running...having already achieved what he wanted.

He simply wants attention, and is willing to do and say anything to get it.
no matter how insignificant and dull he feels he is, he can forget it, for a while...the rest of the time he must medicate himself to accomplish the same escape from himself.

I wondered why such an obvious simpleton would have nothing to say on philosophical matters, except as references and deference to text, and then still be a consistent contributor on a "philosophy forum".

Then I saw his pictures, and observed his posts when he was ignored.
The images alone screamed of desperation...and their consistency.
All circled around him, his life, his supposed personality, genius and so on.
He is "living the life" we talk about.
Yet, here he is day after day....even on Saturday nights...
Why would someone who is as happy and living such an exciting life be on ILP day after day...when no philosophy really interests him beyond Game Theory (theory of serious playas), or anything dealing with cost/benefit analysis?

Simple...
Neeeeeeed.

Need, hidden beneath a carefully cultivated image, reflecting a modern American ideal: the Tupac urban poet,/hustler, gangsta image.
In one of the pics, with his supposed buddies, you see them all relaxed, and then him, right in the middle, with this attempt to appear tough, taller...his arms wrapped around two guy, raising his shoulders above them...his brow furrowed, like a sneer.

Then you see him bounce from thread to thread with one-liners, one one paragraph contributions, mind-farting himself across ILP domestication.

Then there was the incident when he was partially exposed as what he is (a common drug-dealer, and penny-stock internet dealer)...and how long he disappeared from the scene - licking his wounds.

No doubt his defensive aggressive stance has some success amongst the simpletons he hangs around with...inflating his self--esteem.
His verbal acrobatics are effective, within modern contexts.
They impress.
But he is way over his head here...even if he is participating on ILP where most of the bright ones have fled, leaving behind some average minds, and a few dumb cows.

Now he indulges in baiting....trolling.
Offering controversial statements, he cannot support, name-dropping, so as to insinuate that he might know what he is talking about, and then falling back on what has worked for him in his daily life when he's been cornered, and threatened with being exposed as the needy, insecure, unhappy, imbecile that he truly is.

He is interesting in this sense alone: a perfect representation of Americanism...of modernity, of nihilism.

A fatherless, man-child, seeking an identity, adopting what is popular, trying to be liked, but also wanting to manipulate, preserving an modernistic, gangsta (playa, hustler) image.

shit-Smears wrote:
"Same as Dennett. I've met those guys several times, and when they get done selling books to teenage atheists and start talking about philosophy among their peers, they usually just end up chuckling and talking about how many books they sold."

Here we see how he uses the usual methods of manipulation...to produce an effect.

It's all innuendo, with no direct statements.
He knows what they do amongst their peers.
No doubt from Youtube and Wikipedia.
He's met them...
Got an autograph.
They are hustlers, selling books....
Like he wants to be....he wants to sell, to be marketable.
He envies them because they make money by selling to teenagers.
They sell to teenagers...
He finds dumb females to sell drugs to, and then fucks them, sometimes.
Surprising what some pot can do when dealing with a fatherless, cultural-less, clue-less, dumb female raised to think that being a whore is how you get attention.

His original distaste for me was that I failed to be what he thinks I ought to be, to sell to as many as possible.
He, mistaking his motive for mine, is a better manipulator, a more talented hustler.
You see it in how fast he switches positions, when he dares to say anything concrete.
He avoids being clear because he wants to leave his options open.
A clever hustler always implies, never says anything honestly, definitely.
When he faces resistance or the threat of exposure, he has his verbal talents to deny, redirect, using sarcasm, humor...or a reference to some text or to some famous name.

He delivers himself on a platter.

Fascinating specimen.

Ta, Ta,

And it continues and will continue, even when this is all pointed out.
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PostSubject: Re: Forums Sun Jun 08, 2014 3:55 am

Quote :
toss in some psychological hypotheses

Baby.... All I can do is draw analysis out of the little material that's provided.

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expressed as certainties.

How else would one go about checking if its true or not?


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Here at KTS we tell our children not to pay any attention to people like Smears

But that would put them at least one level above you right? Because it like;

"There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: the fashionable non-conformist."
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PostSubject: Re: Forums Sun Jun 08, 2014 7:28 am

Funny...Satyr is narcissistic and, at the very same time, obsessed with another = a split obsessiveness theme going on here where self and other are equally symptoms of mental illness.
The only thing left to facilitate the "healthy" empty staring into the void, like the Morono(oh) advocates, is to include as an unhealthy interest, inanimate objects.
Then any focus on the particular can be avoided and we can all rejoice about rejoining "humanity."

You see, something negative must be said about all this attention and interest, to diminish its effect.
Satyr, referring to himself in the third person is a bad sign.
 
Next week he, Satyr, will be frustrated, and mad...perhaps a bit paranoid.
Some psychological term, acting like a verbal slap.
The week after a bit of a sexual complex, and a touch of compensating schizophrenia.
The week after a guru complex, attention whoring...something vile, like that.

After that we'll have to play it by ear and come up with something degrading about him, but not his views, while at the same time flattering to ourselves, in that we are not him, or like him...because we are healthy.

A look around ILP will help you come into contact with that ubiquitous form of "health" we call "normal".
And if that's what health is, then let me be sick.  

The defenders of the herd try to use shame to stop the feeding.
Might as well accuse a wolf of obsessing over sheep, or an eagle of obsessing over a rabbit.
By doing so they show what they are, despite themselves.
It's interesting that of everything written that piece draws the Moron(oh) out to bark.
*woof
He's fighting a defensive war using emotions.
I like it.
As if, someone studying cows, observing a cow, could be accused of being obsessed with that particular cow.

My son found a snail yesterday.
We brought it home and put it in a small bowl, with a leaf and some water.
He studied it and watched it, for hours, and asked a myriad questions about it.
He became...."obsessed" with it, in a very unhealthy way.
Or was he only interested in the species and not the particular snail?

Right now, as I type, he's become "obsessed" with experimentation.
He found some vinegar, and baking powder, and is mixing in some paint colors...trying to concoct something interesting from everyday materials.
The child is showing symptoms of child-abuse....he is ill, I tell you - ILL!!!

Every hunt begins by isolating the weakest, or most daring, careless, member of the group; the one who is split off the throng, not because it is fascinating...but because its demeanor has cut it off from the uniformity of bodies, and now unwanted eyes fall upon its heaving sides.

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PostSubject: Re: Forums Sun Jun 08, 2014 9:46 am

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PostSubject: Re: Forums Sun Jun 08, 2014 7:25 pm

When you come across a douche-bag who only cares about his immediate gratification and whose life has no meaning beyond the birth/death events, then you will meet a Modern degenerate, who finds an end in the primal, and cannot see anything other than here, and now.
His only concern is to remain free to get his next high, because he has no other interest, and detaching distraction is the highest high of all, because then you can reinvent yourself with every new moon, and no feeling of integrity need go too far.

No past, no family, no children; all is a secondary effect.
His identity is encased within a time-box, and his only allegiances are built upon a shared superficiality, and a common "right" to remain as base as they possibly can.
They are the perfect "progressives", also called liberals, and he, this random encounter, is no more than the perfect modern, the ideal manimal.
Cynicism takes care of any ideal that reminds him of how shallow, and primitive, he is.

Negroes are not by accident the modern man's idea(l) man.

Within these confines even your offspring fall under the category of your personal pleasures, having no other reason to exist but to pass you on, much to your delight.

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PostSubject: Re: Forums Mon Jun 09, 2014 1:45 pm

The average, and below average, Modern douche-bag, will approach, some topis, from a psychological perspectives, wanting to silence the source without having to deal with the topic itself.

Such a coward, and a hypocrite, will cast aspersions about the source of his discomfort, trying to shame him into silence, because he either has no clue what is being said and/or he cannot offer a response that would not expose him as what he is.

This provides for some fascinating word-plays.
Such a coward and a douche-bag, will find an insulting and degrading motive in the source of his discomfort, but will seek no such motive in himself and in his own type.

So, when I say fear is the mother of all emotions, this confuses the average moron(o), because fear was his fall-back accusation.
This forces him towards narcissism, the extreme of love, which he is supposed to defend. But this time it is set as a dysfunction, even if it is a prerequisite for any self-respect, and self-knowledge.
The message is clear: you must love, other, indiscriminately...but not yourself. Yourself you must despise to make your transition towards "oneness" less problematic.
It's not love, per se, but a particular kind of love, the self-less kind, which is the typical imbecile's idea(l) of health.

We have it then...if fear cannot be used as a way to dismiss the other, pretending you are courageous when you are truly a coward denying fear in yourself, then love-why not ? - as a psychosis will be used.

So, hate, but only yourself, love, but not yourself...discriminate but not between human, which is now your new, grander, Self.

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PostSubject: Re: Forums Mon Jun 09, 2014 2:25 pm

The average Moron(o) loves to focus on "fear", which he denies in his own thinking, because he cannot accept courage as being how one deals with fear, and not the absence of it.
He does so because he cannot deal with it in himself, and it overwhelms him, to an extent that he must deny self, and abstract it.

The average Mono(o) loves to point out the selfishness of the other, because he cannot accept it in himself, without contradicting his cowardly positions.

The average Moron(o) likes to use terms like "projecting," or to accuse the other of solipsism, when solipsisms is the beginning of understanding, and projection is the act of imagination.
He does so because his own projections and solipsism are detached from sensuality, and so he must accuse the other before this is discovered about him.

The average Moron(o) thinks love is only healthy when it is directed towards the idea of otherness...and only if the universal otherness, he now calls Humanity, is the focus, because he likes to also pretend to be over God, and he does so because he's brainwashed into the comforting idea that you must be special within otherness, and an "individual" within uniformity, and that ego is, automatically, an insult.  

The average Moron(o) thinks there is no higher narcissism than self-love, and so he cannot see how the idea that he is valuable within an abstraction, like God or Humanity, is the most narcissistic conception of all, because here the possibility of perceiving one's own faults is lost in the multiplicity of an ambiguous whole.
He is appalled by honest displays of self-acceptance, but sees nothing wrong with an imbecile, like himself, thinking he deserves eternal life, or that he is born with rights and/or that he deserves respect, and love, and care.

The average Moron(o) prefers to see pretense in others, but not in himself, where he is now convinced that the bullshit he pretends to be, and that he now considers "true," is an honest assessment of the world.
He thinks he is being "himself" because he can parrot the common spiel, by heart, without batting an eye...and he recalls no other perception to trouble his shallow soul.  

The average Moron(o) is average, and this is why he is a moron.

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PostSubject: Re: Forums Mon Jun 09, 2014 7:38 pm

Heisman, Mitchell wrote:
Judaism began with a belief in the power of nurture to overcome nature, a belief in mind over matter. It is the belief that the sociobiological logic represented by ancient Egypt is not the only way, and that by learning a people can survive otherwise. Gods, such as the sun god, rooted in observable nature, represent extensions of probable beliefs.
God, superior to the laws of nature, represents the utmost possibilities of belief.
Unity with God could transcend pagan unity with nature. When one follows God‘s laws over man‘s (biologically ground) laws, one is literally overriding one‘s own biological nature, and hence performing a perfectly ―secular miracle of non-biology transcending biological nature.


This particular specimen has spent over a decade sucking on Nietzsche's dick, and is now advancing towards the next stage of his intellectual progressiveness, by attacking himself to a Jewish translation, with all the trappings of a comfortable finality.

Heisman, Mitchell wrote:
When Jews acquired power after historic powerlessness, the original conditions of Judaism unraveled. To empower the powerless or marginalized is self-empowering while Jews themselves are powerless. But when the Jewish cause becomes victorious, this strategy backfires and Jewish principles deconstruct themselves, inverting the inverters. For the Zionist state to consistently empower the disempowered Palestinians at their own expense would be political suicide. Being Goliath is a problem when the moral of the story is that David ultimately wins.

The internationalism of Christianity laid the common ground for a world that has a place for the nationalism of the Jews. Just as Roman conquerors penetrated the territorial-sociobiological boundaries of the ancient Jewish state, the Jewish-based God memes of Christianity penetrated the ancient Roman world. Christianity began a process of blunting and mollifying the deepest ethical-cultural gulfs between Jew and gentile. The penetration of Jewish genes into the modern gentile West is only a continuation of the anti-kin selective logic that began with Christianity. In other words, Jewish assimilation as individuals in the modernistic West is only a continuation of gentile assimilation to the sociobiological impact of Christianity. Both as individuals and as a Zionist state, Western assimilation of Jewish bodies was founded upon Western assimilation of a Jewish ―spirit.

The mind is so addicted to abstractions, to unities, hat it must project itself "outside" reality, in the "unreal", to complete its own constructs.

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Parmenidean metaphysics has become part of the Modern culture, and integrated into nihilistic dogmas.
This was a necessary preliminary step toward the dominance of the logos, over the mythos, the Apollonian over the Dionysian, the Alexandrian over the Heroic.

The seductive power of this mindset is evident in how it attracts the human feminine side, offering it a sense of belonging, completion, inclusion.
It is the psychology of the nil, a sit negates the essence of existence as Flux.  
Once seduced the mind can invert reality, at will, settling for the easier rather than the harder, the certain rather than the uncertain, the intuitive, noumenon, rather than the counter-intuitive (entropic) phenomenon.
This stage has now been associated with the Judaic religions of Judaism/Christianity /Islam, which are the only religions proper, and are the foundation of what we call Modernity.

Heisman, Mitchell wrote:
The Jewish kinship paradox meant that this entire model was utterly improbable, if not impossible, for Jews. The Jewish kinship paradox meant that pure sociobiological naturalism was self-defeating. To survive, Jews could only rest their faith in the post-biological corrective of Mosaic Law.

To survive, Jews could only look forward from the premise of the goodness of overcoming pure biological naturalism. There was no going back to nature, and this led the evolution of the Bible towards prophetic speculations about the full implications of overcoming biology in God. The modern Western political left evolved as a direct extension of this original Biblical revolt against biology......

In ancient times, writing was the most advanced form of non-biological symbol-information preservation. The written word represented the cutting edge of ancient media technology. In consequence, the Jews, ―the people of the book, were really the people of the media. This media preserved the Jews and the Jews preserved this media. The word propaganda is a variation of the word propagation, i.e. meme propagation.

Biblical memes helped propagate Jewish genes and Jewish genes helped propagate Biblical memes. This self-reinforcing, symbiotic relationship is a prime evolutionary origin of the relatively recent radiation of Jews into prominent positions in various fields of modern media.......



Although I firmly believe,' wrote Albert Einstein, 'that the chasm between Jewish theology and Spinozism can never be bridged, I am not less convinced that Spinoza‘s contemplation of the world (―Weltanschauung) was thoroughly imbued with the principles and sentiments that characterize so many Jewish intellectuals. I feel I would never have come so near to Spinoza had I not myself been of Jewish extraction and grown up in a Jewish milieu.' I find this rather ironic. Spinoza, author of one of the most radical attempts to overcome Jewish
particularity in the name of human universalism, could be considered one of the inventors of ―modernity. Yet, somehow, modernity itself is in some way Jewish. Einstein seems to have felt, contra Spinoza himself, that Jewish-influenced ―principles and sentiments‖ somehow drew him closer to Spinoza‘s modern universalism.

Once words replace actions, as the measure of the real, the world submits to human contrivances, and all is turned on its head: nihilism, as the absence of universal, morals, meaning, purposes, is now proposed as a negative when it represents the positive aspect of Becoming.

But the methodology proceeds further in its seductive manipulations.
It positions itself, noetically, on both sides of the dialectic, offering two versions of itself: absolute nil (0), and absolute one (1).
It extricates the true negation of its premises the fluid space/time in between these human projections, and dominates human thinking.

See Atzmon on the same tactic being used in on the world stage by Judaism.
Weininger, Otto wrote:

The Jews, then, do not live as free, autonomous individuals who choose between virtue and vice, as do the Aryans. The Aryans are automatically pictured by everybody as an assembly of individual men, the Jews as a coherent plasmodium spread over a wide area. Antisemitism has wrongly turned the latter into a stubborn, conscious closing of ranks and called it ―Jewish solidarity.‖ This is an understandable confusion of different things. If some accusation is leveled against an individual who belongs to the Jewish race and all the Jews, without actually knowing him, inwardly support him, wishing, hoping, and trying to prove him innocent, it must on no account be believed that he interests them in any way as a Jewish individual and that his fate, because it is the fate of a Jew, will arouse more pity in them than that of any Aryan who is unjustly persecuted. This certainly is not the case. It is only the threat to Judaism, the fear that a shameful shadow might fall on Jewry as a collective, or, more accurately on anything Jewish as such, on the idea of Judaism, that produces those symptoms of involuntary partisanship.

It is exactly the same as when women are delighted to hear every individual member of their sex being disparaged, and indeed help to belittle her, so long as Woman herself is not shown in a bad light, no man is deterred from desiring women in general, nobody loses faith in ―love,‖ but marriages continue to take place and the number of old bachelors does not increase. What is defended is only the species, what is protected is only the sex or the race, not the individuals, who are considered only insofar as they are members
of the group.
Both the genuine Jew and the genuine Woman live only in the species, not as individualities. This explains why the family (as a biological, not a legal, unit) is of greater importance to the Jews than to any other people in the world, with the English, who are the Jews‘ distant relatives, following next.
The family in this sense has a female, maternal origin and has nothing to do with the state or the formation of society. A sense of belonging together that unites the members of a family, although it is only the result of a shared atmosphere, is strongest among Jews. The principle of any aristocratism is the strictest observation of all boundaries between human beings, but the Jew is the born communist and always wants community. The informality of the Jew in company and his lack of social tact are the results of this. Manners are nothing but a subtle way of emphasizing and protecting the boundaries of the personal monads, but the Jew is no monadologist.


Once the dialogue has been contained within the nihilistic paradigm "free-speech" can be permitted, as an expression of its own arrogant principles.
The practice of nihilistic mind-control works on multiple fronts:

---It manipulates ingrained human existential anxieties, offering a comforting way out of the uncertainty and indifference of the world.

---It replaces the word as the standard for deciding what is more or less probable, detaching the word, as static symbol (abstraction), from the phenomenon, as the dynamic, mysterious, unknowable.

---It dominates human discourse, in the way I explained above, creating a no-thinking-zone, within which masses of men can be controlled and exploited, free to be whatever they think they want.

---It castrates/detaches man from his own identity, his nature/past, making him willing and vulnerable to the first identifiers that will be provided for him. This is sold to him as a liberation from responsibility, from determinism, from an indifferent world.

The tactic is a sophisticated mind-controlling mechanism, where the slave is convinced of his freedom and wills his own chains - the epitome of human husbandry where no force is required because ti has been internalized as guilt, shame, political-correctness, civility, culture, social etiquette, and so on.

Weininger, Otto wrote:
But first I want to define exactly what I mean by Jewishness.
One is not dealing with a race or a people, and even less with legally acknowledged profession. One can only define it as a spiritual attitude, a psychic constitution, which offers an OPPORTUNITY for ALL men and which merely found its grandiose REALIZATION in historical Jewery. Nothing proves the veracity of this statement more than anti-Semitism.
The truest, most Aryan or Aryans, certain of their Aryaness, are no anti-Semites; they cannot even fathom hostile anti-Semitism;…on the other hand, one can always detect certain Jewish traits in aggressive anti-Semites…

It would be impossible for this to be any other way. As one LOVES only those traits in the other which one would wholeheartedly embrace oneself, yet can never fully attain, so one HATES in the other only that which one never wants to be, yet which one partially retains. One does not hate something with which one has nothing in common.

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PostSubject: Re: Forums Tue Jun 10, 2014 1:51 pm

Is it coincidental that the shit-Smear hasn't posted on ILP ever since he became aware of my comments via the Hesperus mask?
I prefer to think not.
But he might be somewhere taking pictures of himself with some random whore, trying to convince himself he's living the "good life"....like any Whigger would.

But now we have the Turden, a.k.a. Torn-Annus, doing what he does best: flooding a forum with inanities.
I would have hoped he and shit-Stain, in conjunction, could have made that forum what it always has been.

Yeup...ILP is now officially in the toilet.
Who will flush?
Or, is it possible, that some brave new plumber will appear, like a Jesus, to clean it all up?

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PostSubject: Re: Forums Tue Jun 10, 2014 6:23 pm

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What's two-faced about this moron Moreno, is how he comes here accusing Satyr and others of "Narcissism" for not individually addressing people, and on ILP he goes stating how there's no need at all for any individual distinction of those here.

How convenient.

How hypocritical.

How cowardly.

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PostSubject: Re: Forums Tue Jun 10, 2014 6:56 pm

Individualism for Morono has to be made of simple, easily recognizable traits, so that the modern mind is not over burdened with having to work. Like the guy who brags about whoring and drug taking, the simpleton that lives on a farm, raises animals and speaks in matronly cliches, a brown cow that only talks about its wonderful social life and the celebrities it mixes with and claims to be borderline genius, the abused child that tortured animals, the Marxist twit for whom no distortion of logic is too great as long as it maintains his deluded belief system.

What you have at ILP is a collection of caricatures, like those you'd find on a bad TV show.

They're not individuals at all... not even human. In fact, tear away the masks from these freakish cartoons and you are left looking into empty skulls, the mouths still chattering away, like a scene from a David Cronenburg horror movie.
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PostSubject: Re: Forums Tue Jun 10, 2014 7:16 pm

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Individualism for Morono has to be made of simple, easily recognizable traits, so that the modern mind is not over burdened with having to work.

Explains why he'd rather come to the defence of a Schmoe who smells of dementia, and real Narcissism if we are going to speak at all of that subject, and then come here accuse those like Satyr of being narcissists...

Morono shows himself and argues like a classic retard.

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PostSubject: Re: Forums Sat Jun 14, 2014 8:46 am

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Read how Carleas, the hypocrite, lies about not banning people if they do not disturb and shit.

I posted there using other monikers, some of which remained civil and on-topic...and I was discovered, mostly when shit-Smears and others began crying "wolf, wolf! amongst us!!!".

Read what the douche-bag says, and wonder why ILP is as it is.

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