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| Subject: 432hz Music Revolution Wed Feb 27, 2013 7:17 pm | |
| My first take on the subject is the difference : cyclical/linear. (feminine/masculine) The standard 440hz (which is standard since 1939, others say since the early 1950's) is the more linear rational sound. Masculine if you will. And the 432hz is the feminine, cyclical, more natural sound. There is a great symposium of many musicians, scientists (and academics from various fields) here in Germany in 10 days on the 432hz frequency, to promote and discuss it: http://www.iak-freiburg.de/eip/pages/kammerton-432-hz-symposium.phpThey link to this english site (which looks more new age): http://www.432hertz.com/On this site you can get wav-sound samples, to get a feel for the difference in tune: http://www.goldenehaltung.at/downloads.php?cat_id=2The last kind of modern music I appreciated was the "Dubstep" in it's artistic value. I would assume, there a 440hz should be suitable. But I didn't enjoy it for very long. More in a consumerist way. As a representation of modern fragmentation. On the German site above, they state that the music of Verdi or Mozart, Songs of Whitney Houston, Enya, Adele and John Lennon, but also sonars of the dolphins and tibetan soundbowl are in the 432hz frequency. They also say that the ancient greeks, as well as egyptians and sumerans had their instruments tuned to the a-432. And that after that norm change in 1939, musicians of various nations, like Luciano Pavarotti, Placido Domingo, Birgit Nilsson, Joan Sutherland, Montserrat Caballe, Richard Strauss and others more asked to change the 440 standard to 432Hz. With the symposium they wish to pick up on this tradition. So we are at the key distinction of male and female again. And my latest insights are: that one has to embrace "Shakti" (the female element) to gain it's power. To make use of it. So my claim would be that the 440 (and not the natural 432) is actually emasculating. At least it is not as empowering, because it represents the male element. And this does not include the transmission of power to the listener, but is merely an expression of it in itself. There is the difference. That's why rock'n'roll guitarists stroke their guitars like englarged phalluses, because they express masculinity with their music (or wish to do so, mostly ending up making hypermasculine fools of themselves), but the listeners are not raised in their masculine/noble/aryan spirit by the music. Even Wagners Ride of the Valkyries sounds more full (very noticably in the second part at least) in the 432hz. So I am a fan of the 432hz. This might become a musical revolution. The 432hz is also called the "heart tone". New age mystics connect it to the chakras, biologists to the DNA and religious people to biblical numerology, but this doesn't disprove anything, in my opinion (everybody always jumps on the bandwaggon, but this bandwaggon is actually really cool!). Many fully professional musicians support it as well and this gives hope, that one day one may listen to classical concerts (live music) in this pitch again. For now there seems to be a converting programm "Audacity" for the computer out there, where one can somehow change the pitch in songs. And many individual musicians already tune their instruments to the 432hz. Wasn't 1939 the year when Germany started loosing the war...and I saw in a vid that 440hz is by some named the Goebbels frequency. This may be the reason. The Germans were emasculated shifting to this 440 frequency in their music at the time. Later this spread across the rest of the world. (I am speculating here...) |
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| Subject: Re: 432hz Music Revolution Wed Feb 27, 2013 8:02 pm | |
| From a vid description box: - Quote :
The imposed 440Hz In 1939 Nazi propaganda minister Joseph Goebbels dictated 440Hz as the standard tuning pitch. This to let people think and feel in a certain manner, and to keep them a prisoner of a certain consciousness. This in spite of that Professor Dussaut from the Paris Conservatory wrote a referendum that was signed by 23,000 French musicians who all were for the preservation of the A= 432Hz. Freedom of choice in bringing back the frequency of the earth is what it's all about today.
432Hz quality Music on a basis tone of A=432Hz is more transparent, more marked, clearer, gives an obvious musical picture and the Overtones and undertones moves more freely and can multiply themselves more. Music based on 440Hz represents emotions and locks up the head. By lowering the pitch 440Hz - 8Hz to 432Hz, the music changes. Which first was painful to the ear changes into a beautiful, warm music whereby relaxation is natural. Overtones are decisive for the sound, this holds for instruments as well as the human voice. The piano tuned in A= 440Hz creates an artificial clarity and strengthens the high stress levels of today. The instruments on which Mozart and Verdi composed their masterpieces were in 432Hz -is the same as C=256Hz- pitched. The original Stadivarius violin was developed to resonate at 432Hz
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| Subject: Re: 432hz Music Revolution Thu Feb 28, 2013 2:27 am | |
| - Laconian wrote:
- . (I am speculating here...)
So is everyone else as far as I could tell from how deep I was willing to look into this. I didn't bother with those sites you linked - they're horribly formatted - for a site about trying to create peace and all that, it certainly doesn't show that in it's presentation. I took to Google instead. I could find only one remotely scientific study into life having a 'frequency.' That was some guy's "BT3 Frequency Monitoring System" which was revealed as a scam here. Another study, although not talking about life having a frequency, apparently has information on magnetic fields measured at 50 Hz to have a non-neutral effect on life. I didn't want to pitch out the $31 dollars to read it; it can be found here. From what I read, lowering the hertz lowers the 'cycles' it goes through per [some time measurement]. I took the suggestion from here to simply slow down the playback of music by 1.82% and, as expected, it only made songs sound slightly slower. A random YouTube comment had said that in order to tell the difference you need to re-record the songs in 432 Hz or else it's not the same. It's intuitive that by slowing down a song, it will sound 'smoother.' There is less change in a shorter amount of time, giving more time to process that change and thus a more relaxed feeling comparatively. If someone has a harder time processing information as fast, due to any number of reasons, it's going to be more painful trying to make sense of what's going on. If you're in the middle of battle, your blood pumping fast and your adrenaline switch clicked on, you're going to be able to process more, faster, than otherwise and songs (frequencies) that were relaxing before might sound boring, dull or slow. Whether or not 432 Hz is more 'in-tune' with humans than 440 Hz is not something I've seen any sound studies on. If you have them, link them - I'd like to see them. All I've seen is people saying they enjoy 432 Hz more, in general, than 440 Hz. This is a personal preference, based on their personal capacities. I happen to agree with it and enjoy it myself (the slowing of songs by 1.82%) with certain songs, but with others it makes them almost unbearably drawn out (they were slow songs to begin with.) |
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| Subject: Re: 432hz Music Revolution Thu Feb 28, 2013 4:56 am | |
| - Slaughtz wrote:
[...] people saying they enjoy 432 Hz more, in general, than 440 Hz.[...]. I happen to agree with it and enjoy it myself [...] Same here. The closest thing to a scientific study I found so far are the claims by this man. (No references to follow, from what I can see.) 432hz explained(This is why I posted this topic in the Agora for discussion.) And he goes off into biblical numerology. (Why I was hesitant to even post this vid.) But isn't music all about "feeling"? Isn't this maybe the ONE field where FEELING alone should count as a "scientific" argument? It feels better, so it's the truth. This here is a fun explanation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAnnugTdQ5E |
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| Subject: Re: 432hz Music Revolution Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:40 am | |
| I moved it here. The Theater seems more appropriate. _________________ γνῶθι σεαυτόν μηδέν άγαν
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| Subject: Re: 432hz Music Revolution Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:17 am | |
| "Audacity" is a converter programm for free download. You need another programm to convert your soundfiles to .wav format before though. The process is real easy:
"select all, change pitch, copy paste 440 in first collumn, type 432 in second column."
Here is another instruction from youtube:
"Everything here is retuned in proportion to 432 Hz.
All music on this channel is re-tuned by slowing down playback, creating a negligible difference to the original song's tempo while changing all sounds created at 440 Hz to 432 Hz.
This method prevents the "chopping" created by programs that attempt to change the pitch without changing the tempo." |
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| Subject: Re: 432hz Music Revolution Fri Feb 21, 2014 7:42 am | |
| - Quote :
- The Future of Music
Part One: Tearing Down the Wall of Noise By Suhas Sreedhar
The loudness war, what many audiophiles refer to as an assault on music (and ears), has been an open secret of the recording industry for nearly the past two decades and has garnered more attention in recent years as CDs have pushed the limits of loudness thanks to advances in digital technology. The ”war” refers to the competition among record companies to make louder and louder albums. But the loudness war could be doing more than simply pumping up the volume and angering aficionados--it could be responsible for halting technological advances in sound quality for years to come.
Overcompression
The smoking gun of the loudness war is the difference between the waveforms of songs 20 years ago and now. Here is an example:
A waveform from the late 80s / early 90s. Click on image for larger view.
A waveform from now.
The second waveform not only has a higher amplitude than the first but is also highly compressed--there is very little difference between its highest points and the average level. In other words, the new song has a drastically reduced dynamic range--the difference between the loudest parts (the peaks) and quietest parts of the sound.
Music, like speech, is dynamic. There are quiet and loud moments that serve to accentuate each other and convey meaning by their relative levels of loudness. For instance, if someone is talking and suddenly shouts, the loudness of the shout, in addition to the content, conveys a message--be it a sense of urgency, surprise, or anger.
When the dynamic range of a song is heavily reduced for the sake of achieving loudness, the sound becomes analogous to someone constantly shouting everything he or she says. Not only is all impact lost, but the constant level of the sound is fatiguing to the ear. So why is achieving greater and greater loudness so important that the natural ebb and flow of music has been so readily sacrificed?
The answer goes back to the beginnings of recorded music:
...The Vinyl Era and CD Behaviour Loudness WarDecibel Hell leads to Noise-masking Software - basically solving loudness with numbness... a retardation of the senses. _________________ "ἐδιζησάμην ἐμεωυτόν." [Heraclitus] "All that exists is just and unjust and equally justified in both." [Aeschylus, Prometheus] "The history of everyday is constituted by our habits. ... How have you lived today?" [N.] *Become clean, my friends.* |
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| Subject: Re: 432hz Music Revolution Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:48 am | |
| - Lyssa wrote:
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- The Future of Music
Part One: Tearing Down the Wall of Noise By Suhas Sreedhar
The loudness war, what many audiophiles refer to as an assault on music (and ears), has been an open secret of the recording industry for nearly the past two decades and has garnered more attention in recent years as CDs have pushed the limits of loudness thanks to advances in digital technology. The ”war” refers to the competition among record companies to make louder and louder albums. Loudness War
The main reason why so many music labels and producers want every microsecond of their pop music/products to be as loud as possible is because they understand our habits and want to exploit them. The "loudness war" is simply a war for your attention, therefore your money. We listen to the music step by step, a microsecond after a microsecond, an event after an event, so from their point of view every single part of the song is like a micro-commercial. It doesn't matter at what point you jump in while flicking through the channels. Every bit has to be based on a 'hook' and as loud as possible. That's what really sells nowadays, and generates more profit than other genres of music and the entire film industry combined. |
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| Subject: Re: 432hz Music Revolution Tue Apr 08, 2014 7:44 pm | |
| - Thirsty wrote:
- Lyssa wrote:
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- Quote :
- The Future of Music
Part One: Tearing Down the Wall of Noise By Suhas Sreedhar
The loudness war, what many audiophiles refer to as an assault on music (and ears), has been an open secret of the recording industry for nearly the past two decades and has garnered more attention in recent years as CDs have pushed the limits of loudness thanks to advances in digital technology. The ”war” refers to the competition among record companies to make louder and louder albums. Loudness War
The main reason why so many music labels and producers want every microsecond of their pop music/products to be as loud as possible is because they understand our habits and want to exploit them.
The "loudness war" is simply a war for your attention, therefore your money. Yes; also culturally hyping a way of life, a way of thinking, feeling... - Quote :
- We listen to the music step by step, a microsecond after a microsecond, an event after an event, so from their point of view every single part of the song is like a micro-commercial.
It doesn't matter at what point you jump in while flicking through the channels. Every bit has to be based on a 'hook' and as loud as possible. The death of Dynamic Range: when the difference bet. the high and the low note is made to shrink and like you said, emphasized equally... The range disappears. http://www.stylusmagazine.com/articles/weekly_article/imperfect-sound-forever.htmhttp://www.cdmasteringservices.com/dynamicrange.htmhttp://www.cdmasteringservices.com/dynamicdeath.htmhttp://www.soundonsound.com/sos/sep11/articles/loudness.htm_________________ "ἐδιζησάμην ἐμεωυτόν." [Heraclitus] "All that exists is just and unjust and equally justified in both." [Aeschylus, Prometheus] "The history of everyday is constituted by our habits. ... How have you lived today?" [N.] *Become clean, my friends.* |
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| Subject: Re: 432hz Music Revolution Thu Dec 11, 2014 4:30 am | |
| _________________ "ἐδιζησάμην ἐμεωυτόν." [Heraclitus] "All that exists is just and unjust and equally justified in both." [Aeschylus, Prometheus] "The history of everyday is constituted by our habits. ... How have you lived today?" [N.] *Become clean, my friends.* |
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