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PostSubject: Re: Words Wed Mar 16, 2016 7:51 pm

Words delivered with machine-gun succession, punching holes in the other’s pride, reputations bleeding out, spilling relevance into the sewers of data deluge; verbal explosions destroying all in their symbolic radius, names hemorrhaging on these new battlefields of the coldest war, a frozen one, a metaphorical one.
Everything is transferred, moved, transposed from one abstraction to another – nothing is, as it seems, nothing means what it says, a pall of vague uncertainty settles over the front-lines: hot-air warfare choking throats silent; the only conviction that nobody is ever convinced – take no prisoners.
Verbal sniper attacks, character assassinating the leadership, when his words are making an impact, rallying a force for a final push; then left to ramble on, talking to himself, or to a select few, a discriminating clique, in a world of “free-speech”, because there is no more danger in his emblematic expressions – nobody takes notice when the numbers are not there.
It’s all relative… to numbers.
Propaganda bombs obliterating entire groups with fiery rhetoric – minds taken hostage, never to be exchanged: no mercy for the enemy, no respect; women and children go first, taken as bounty, and the men left to a slow death on the battlefields of pecuniary tokens, if they cannot be reduced to the level of a woman and/or a child.
Another regeneration lost, but not dead. They shuffle on, appearing substantial, but missing internal consistency: empty husks of amalgamated organs lacking order.
The only resources of any value are human: humanity is conquered or remade into a new construct, stripping it, first, of all past, burning away its nature.  
This is the war happening all around us, but goes, mostly, unnoticed by the common mind, anaesthetized to its verbal violence, its insidious linguistics; blind to its destructive continuance, its numbing compassion; deaf to the cries of its casualties, offered another relieving medicating word, to numb the pain and make brain-death tolerable.


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PostSubject: Re: Words Tue Mar 22, 2016 9:05 am

Moderns have words to flip the real on its head - flip the objective into another subjective, flip the phenomenon into another noumenon, flip the apparent into another symbol, flip a female into another m,ale, and a male into another female, flip the natural into another human artifice, flip the past into another future, flip the cause into another effect, flip the perspective of world into another world; flip the lie into honesty, defeat into victory, cowardice into courage, and stupidity into genius.  

They are insanely flippant.  

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PostSubject: Re: Words Wed Jun 15, 2016 7:25 am

Creative Licence
Using a word as something other than a direct connector of noumenon to phenomenon, as something more than just a symbol referring to an honest, and precise, description of the real, is left to the discretion of the artist.
Placing words in unconventional places in a sentence, or using the wrong word to refer to a phenomenon can be ascribed to the artist’s creative licence, and to his unique charm.
He may very well choose to paint a tree purple, or in a further usage of his creativity draw geometric shapes, in all ways symmetrical, and title it “tree”.
The motive for this unconventional creativity should be sought in something other than the exact description of the real.
The artist can only attain the “right” to do so when he’s already proven his perceptual acuity and his talent, which then seeks alternate methods to describe how the exoteric dynamic mixes with his esoteric dynamics.
Without such evidence, the audience is left to wonder if the artist is suffering from a brain dysfunction, unable to perceive world as his own kind does, or is left to question the motive for this unconventional usage of form and colour is, wondering if it is nothing more than creative licence being used to hide an absence of talent.


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PostSubject: Words (1) - Introduction Thu Jun 16, 2016 1:19 pm

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PostSubject: Words (2) - noumennon/phenomenon Thu Jun 16, 2016 6:33 pm

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PostSubject: Words (3) - Knowing/Understanding Thu Jun 16, 2016 7:40 pm

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PostSubject: Words (4) - Restrictions Thu Jun 16, 2016 8:28 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Words Thu Jun 16, 2016 9:22 pm

Excellent series so far. Thank you.
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PostSubject: Words (5) - Utilities Fri Jun 17, 2016 8:50 am

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PostSubject: Words (6) - Definitions - Levels of Cognition - Empathy Fri Jun 17, 2016 11:33 am

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PostSubject: Words (7) - Definitions - Nihilism - Humanity Fri Jun 17, 2016 11:58 am

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PostSubject: Re: Words Fri Jun 17, 2016 3:46 pm

Words (5), 6:26
I made a similar comment on another video about the difference between the Right and the Left:
"The Right defines itself by what it strives for. The Left defines itself by what is and has been - how it makes them feel taken out of context or put in different contexts - and then by the destruction of it if it is unpleasant. The Left consumes to ease pain (with a lofty religious goal like utopia) and the Right consumes to put toward practical goals (like building solidarity or a business or a means to some end.) The Left tries to make an end come about, the Right tries to make a means to an end come about. The left destroys opportunity until the only one left is the one they want. The Right strives to build more opportunity for their goal to come about."

Admittedly, it is a simplification and not very fleshed out. The idea is that people on the Right tend to concentrate on increasing probabilities for what they build whereas the modern Regressive Left is attempting to destroy any probability that isn't their own - and without moderation or compromise. Admittedly, this is still a fairly vague conception of what I am trying to uncover.

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There is a tendency for me to see nihilistic thought and think there is some 'keystone', some 'secret premise' which they all hide, which they depend upon to invert the world. In the case of Jews, I have thought there is one - and specifically with the 'regressive left' I try to search for what it is so I may challenge it. Some secret word/concept which they all hold. However, I now realize that by the very nature of nihilism, their 'secret' may be anything or any concept or any word - anything which they personally interpret as a truth, like having a "safe word" ('rosebud' from the movie Citizen Kane). Appears for a long time I have believed their bullshit that there is some hidden, secret, unseen truth that I just couldn't see.

From your suggestion, it appears that 'keystone' is personal - it is ego. I had said before that each person assumes their ego and then uses an idea(l) by which they depend on for their self-worth. Your own interpretation being that it is a 'shield', a 'wall'. The imagery/approach is different, but I think the behavior may be the same. By its nihilistic nature, though, they can change it at any time. So, in my search for this keystone, I was really looking for a universal aspect of ego - some ultimate mimetic weapon; a mimetic equivalent to a nuclear bomb of which I can set off against those who utilize morality to try and deny reality - by which, if I am to continue experiencing life intersubjectively, viscerally through an 'other' - they deny me my senses. Attempting to use the system against itself.

Your suggested solution to nihilism is to not participate within, but without (which I think is why you separate them as a part of the environment rather than as human or one you identify with. However, that type of either/or thinking implies you think intersubjectively to some degree with those you decide are human; is that so?) - and have them define the words they are using - or you would if it did not inevitably create a violent or aggressive physical altercation as a result of their defensiveness. I've yet to let go of them as 'human', which may be an offense to those of higher quality who associate themselves with me. The only reason I have not chosen is because the choice has not yet been forced upon me. However, the reason I do not engage with them is because of that very same fear. It may, actually, be that probable reaction which defines whether or not they are human, to a significant (but not complete) extent.
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PostSubject: Words (8) - Definitions - Love Sun Jun 19, 2016 11:49 pm

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PostSubject: Words (9) - Definitions - Beauty - Freedom Sun Jun 19, 2016 11:51 pm

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PostSubject: Words (11) - Nihilism Mon Jun 20, 2016 2:14 pm

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PostSubject: Words (12) - Polemics {1} Tue Jun 21, 2016 8:50 am

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PostSubject: Words (13) - Polemics {2} Tue Jun 21, 2016 9:54 am

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PostSubject: Re: Words Tue Jun 21, 2016 11:55 am

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Two definitions of love:
The parental (identifying self in other) [also social cooperation] [later abstracted to an idea, so social cohesion around an idea/principle/grander self]
The fight/flight lust sexual love which numbs the fight/flight response, repressing those energies and then releasing them in a spasm/orgasm. Once orgasm follows a fear, it 'releases' the energy acquired from such fear along with the orgasm; this is where you get sexual kinks/fetishes from, the increased fear response going up to the orgasm adds to the 'pent up' energies which are subsequently released - relieving the tension which the fear initially provoked. Flirting/sexual approach is an increasing tension of two people exposing vulnerabilities to each other that the lust response eventually overwhelms one of them into a silence - where only an action remains to express themselves - resulting in kissing, grabbing, copulation, etc. Mutually feeding on the mimetic and genetic morsels of their persons.


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Words, sound (memes) do not directly influence the world or nature.


A sound can influence nature as it can cause ripples in water or rupturing eardrums if loud enough. (I think you knew this but for the sake of expediency just didn’t see it as worth mentioning) It just does not directly affect the world as much as a nihilist may think it does or should. The intent behind the sound by a nihilistic speaker may be larger than it is physically capable of within the world. When one shouts at a rock 'Move!' this is a demonstration of how for language to have meaning proportional to the intent behind what is said, there must be a medium by which that intent can transfer to an-other.

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'Truth' is no longer about what exists in the world but is considered the ultimate weapon of politics. Acquiring truth does not represent a discovery of what is within the world any longer, but instead a word which will grant power over the motivation/politics of a people - the ability to steer them one way or another.

This is related to the pleasure principle where one seeks in truth a lasting guarantee of their pleasure or satisfaction. The people will choose a 'truth' which best grants them this capability, over another - the costs to be deferred onto future generations (in debt/slavery) or excused as 'worth the cost'.
Because people have been seduced, the bourgeois think they have been granted a special access to the 'truth' that most people cannot handle - the 'truth' that all are equal and peace is the aim, with power at the top.

The nihilist criteria for being 'intellectual' or 'of value' is the measure by how much suffering one can endure and still exist within the world. This is not a good measure; as one may suffer from a disease and still exist - this does not necessarily advance the genetics or mimetics of the species. Existential suffering means little, as all suffering must become manifested within the world for it to acquire acknowledgement. One cannot say they have or will suffer in the future, because there is no evidence of it having happened yet or it is demanded that evidence for it be extremely high to the point of reality-denial (AutSider's thread)

Further, with the bourgeoisie, the lowly class cannot be trusted with power because they are susceptible to the manipulations of others - even by the 'elite' themselves. They justify their own elitism by continually trying to deceive the other and use that as evidence that the other is incapable of managing themselves - that they fall for dishonesty so easily. When it is not fallen for, the 'elite' beg for mercy that they do not be murdered for their corruption of the youth and twisting of the truth.

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Males becoming female, feminized. This is a result of the environment selecting for feminine traits instead of male, masculine, traits. Nature selects for a male which is most capable to adapt to a hostile and austere environment. Today, the environment selects for a male which is capable of adapting to superorganic government state, which puts demands upon the individual male to feminize himself or else he is to be jailed. Not only is death threatened, but also the threat of hurting/killing his chances at children.


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[By making his nihilism popular,] he converts his illness to a new form of health.

Health, being what is popular. Why popular? Because it assures a triggered response within a human, artificial, environment. What is sought to control is not oneself, but everyone else, as they are a medium which is open to being influenced and their own beliefs have consequences within this environment: they vote, they stage revolutions, they ostracize others. Ironically, to better keep a human honest you have to lower their power - "Whatever doesn't kill me, makes me stronger."

The new fight against "triggering" has become a defense mechanism by the nihilist, who wishes to protect their meme from criticism. The side effect is the infantilizing of people. As the internet threw open the doors to differing perspectives, a safe space environment becomes the real life equivalent/manifestation of social media's "echo chambers", where one only associates and talks with those who share their own values; sometimes resulting in a radicalization.

When it comes to Satyr, I saw him as a challenge to "save" with nihilism. Most would be triggered to such a point that they excuse him as an evil racist or something. That defeats the very purpose of nihilism - which seeks to be popular with everyone. If it cannot stand up to scrutiny, then it is going to fail. One has to improve their seduction methods or else it is doomed to failure or otherwise a showing that it is not healthy enough to seduce the human race, requiring a eugenics program to enforce there being subjects capable of accepting their flavor nihilism: a Brave New World. The projection of 'mental illness' onto the individual may be because one wishes to use it as an excuse for why an-other failed to live up to their nihilistic standard.


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[In nihilism] the one who is most hurt is at the top of the totem pole.
This is because simply existing is seen as an act of strength and nobility. So, when one suffers most, they are the most noble for having suffered such injustices and survived them. This is related to Nietzsche's assessment that a Judaic mind chooses "Existence at all costs."


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PostSubject: Re: Words Tue Jun 21, 2016 12:10 pm

Thanks for listening Slaughtz...is the sound good?
Can you hear it well?

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Thanks for listening Slaughtz...is the sound good?
Can you hear it well?
Yes, though I still use a program to increase its volume/amplify it. It comes through clearly enough. I would be concerned that if you modified the volume upward on your end it might increase distortion.
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PostSubject: Re: Words Tue Jun 21, 2016 12:18 pm

That's what it does.
Still, after receiving complaints I've put it to the max.

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PostSubject: Words (14) - Polemics {3} Tue Jun 21, 2016 1:23 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Words Sat Jun 25, 2016 2:02 pm

Slaughtz wrote:

Your suggested solution to nihilism is to not participate within, but without (which I think is why you separate them as a part of the environment rather than as human or one you identify with. However, that type of either/or thinking implies you think intersubjectively to some degree with those you decide are human; is that so?)

I don't understand the difference between being intersubjective with people and seeing them as part of the environment. Supposedly the dichotomy is between seeing a person as one with an inner perspective and seeing one as without. But this idea of having an inner perspective is really just about one having an intimate perspective of himself. One knows himself from an intimate perspective, and other people are similar to him in comparison to animals and objects, so he can see them as he sees himself, and thereby know them better.
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PostSubject: Re: Words Sat Jun 25, 2016 2:39 pm

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I don't understand the difference between being intersubjective with people and seeing them as part of the environment. Supposedly the dichotomy is between seeing a person as one with an inner perspective and seeing one as without. But this idea of having an inner perspective is really just about one having an intimate perspective of himself. One knows himself from an intimate perspective, and other people are similar to him in comparison to animals and objects, so he can see them as he sees himself, and thereby know them better.

My understanding is: Intersubjectivity is a herd psychology where one sees or accepts no difference between oneself and the other. Internal interpretations and thought processes which are occurring within oneself are assumed to be also occurring in the other - or atleast, the other is assumed as capable of having the same thoughts. Therefor, whatever you think would hurt you, you think would also hurt the other, the herd. And, whatever would hurt the other, you behave as if it also hurts yourself.

To a degree, we can personify things, as everything we observe passes through ourselves. Personifying nature is not the same as herd psychology, as the personification (such as polytheist Gods) is still seen or experienced as separate from self, but only with familiar characteristics. When one objectifies humans (seeing them as environment), they are using their consciousness as a tool for making predictions about their behavior. This is also empathy, where one can choose to be sympathetic or antipathetic.

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Do we not all, as humans, not want someone on 'our side'?
Do we not want someone on our side, for us, because we are who and what we are?
Someone who appreciates, and shares the costs, and the benefits?

Do we not want to be acknowledged as being a member of the 'right', or, at lead, 'our' side?

this should not be confused with herd psychology, and yet it is, primarily by those who identify with the principles of the herds, though they reject the notion that they are pat of it.

I inserted my own simplistic either/or thinking into the question. My only understanding of "identifying with other" was that of belonging to them like one does to a herd. Identification with other can be an empathic behavior where one makes the choice to associate themselves sympathetically to the pattern or antipathetically.

For example, "burning and torturing ants". One is first curious what the ant is. It moves and has certain behaviors, etc. We then perform some experiments on them, tinkering and exposing - cutting and frying. We do not see ourselves as part of them nor do we experience ourselves as sharing their pain. We think, rationally, how it must be painful for the ant because we would feel pain... Personifying it. But, we do not ourselves at the same time experience that pain as we inflict it upon the ant. In contrast, when one feels guilt after murdering a person, then they are experiencing pain from some intersubjective herd mentality. They hurt themselves by hurting the person, usually in the form of losing social opportunity be a use of one's own behavior being limited or stunted (for example, not being skilled enough at navigating society without feeling guilty). But the nature of guilt is another topic.
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PostSubject: Re: Words Sat Jun 25, 2016 6:30 pm

How I use the term (inter)subjective.
all organisms, all consciousness is subjective - it reacts, interprets, and applies this subjective interpretation of the objective within the objective world.
Some subjective minds can share their subjective interpretations of the objective world.

The subjective is an interpretation of the objective, and how close it is to it determines its accuracy, proven by its application, by the choices, judgment made using the subjective interpretation of the objective world.
Modernity, using Nihilism, shelters the subjective mind from the costs of their judgments, choices which are not close to the objective, and in the case of Nihilism may even contradict the objective by positing an idea, and ideal, which is nowhere to be found in the objective world and, more so, it is the reverse of what is found in the objective world.  
The subjective interpretation, the abstraction, the noumenon, as I call it, is contradicted by the real... it stands in relation to it as negation.
The Modern accuses the world of negating his ideals, instead of finding in self the negation of world - this is the Nihilist.

Now, with no external reference for the shared Nihilistic idea(l), the masses of moderns, protected from their own delusions, require an external reference point, to direct their will.
This external reference point becomes the mind of another organism. So, we have one noumenon referring to another noumenon, creating a matrix of relationships where the phenomenon, the real world, is excluded.
In fact the more minds participate in this matrix, creating webs of relationships, the more validated the Nihilistic meme becomes, requiring no phenomena, no world, to validate their delusions, their memes, their ideals.
This is inter-dependence.
The world is taken out of the process, and the connections are made between noumena, or abstractions referring to other abstractions that only exists as ambiguous ideas, ideals, in other minds.
A common language, and interpretation is necessary and this is established through brainwashing, education, peer pressure exploiting weakness, and manipulating human feebleness.
Whereas for all realistic ideas, ideals, the world is the standard validating or negating them, in this case it is only other.
This is why when Moderns use the word "world" they mean this matrix of connecting noumena, and not the world outside of their relating.
This is why popularity is "truth", or quantity is quality.
This is inter-subjectivity.

Millions of minds codependent, because their shared ideals have no external reference points, and so the meme can only survive by integrating more and more minds into its way of thinking, by infecting them with the same ideals, ideas, and methods of interpreting... the same knowledge and the same understanding of this data.
Understanding = patterns in the knowledge... therefore the shared understanding simply means the same patterns given to the masses of codependent minds.

This is the true designation of a cult.
One or more minds may reach an agreement about a phenomenon in the world, as it relates to them, because they share existence - they are in the same world.  
But if there is no phenomenon to refer to, how do one or more minds reach an agreement, a communion, of shared evaluation?
Simple... indoctrination, institutionalization, also known as brainwashing, education.

To use a metaphor... one or more minds may evaluate a phenomenon, such as an elephant, in the same way... this does not mean they are part of a cult.
The pattern(s) called elephant, exists independent of their subjectivity.
They discover it, within the world, and interpret it each in his own way.
Accurate interpretations results in successful (inter)actions with elephant... an erroneous interpretation results in failure, or even death.
Cost/Benefit evaluations.

The delusional moderns are convinced of a unicorn.
They read it in a book, perhaps it was given to them as a holy book.
So, although none of them has ever seen a unicorn they are convinced that iti exists.
they only disagree on its traits, the details... but all are certain, have faith, that one day they will find a Unicorn and settle their disputes.
They have nothing to base their original conviction upon, other than mommy told them, or it feels good to believe in magical creatures in a mundane, for them, world, or some other psychological reason having nothing to do with experience, precedent, in other words reality.
The idea, the ideal, the abstraction Unicorn only exists as a vague noumenon, with no references in The external world, except in pieces - a horn here, a horse there....and so on - the combination called Unicorn has no phenomenal referential.
this group of Unicorn believers, unlike the ones agreeing on the nature of an elephant, is a cult, because either "agreement", their shared conviction, is based on coercion, manipulation, exploitation, psychosis, placed there by some authority figure.

Their Unicorn meme
, if it also develops a morality, a culture, a semiology, is an inter-subjective "world", existing as noumenon shared by multiple minds... and has nothing to do, or little to do, with the actual world where elephants are found.

The Unicorn, if it is idealized, deified, becomes an annulment of the world where only elephants exist... and the world where only elephants exist, is a negative to those sharing a noetic world where unicorns exist.
The elephant believers do not require each other to validate their perception of the patterns, phenomenon, they call elephant. Their subjective relationship to the objective world is direct. they may then choose to share their connection with other subjectivities, but this is not a requirement.
The Unicorn believers, on he other hand, MUST validate their belief using other subjective minds, otherwise it is inconsequential, useless, or it vanishes in time, due to genetic deterioration resulting in memory degradation and death.
The Unicorn can only exist as noumenon.

It is a Nihilistic meme, if it is used to then spread this idea by force, or by exploiting human immaturity, cowardice, and so on.
If the world where Unicorns roam is presented as a more 'real" reality than the actual reality where only elephants exist, then it is a nihilistic meme, infecting many with the same delusion.
This is Modernity....

Believing something existing is more probable, or less probable, does not mean one agrees, likes , or disagrees, dislikes it.
One evaluates objectively....in other words by finding connections between the possible "abstraction", the theoretical noumenon, and the world of phenomena, the apparent, the present, connected to using the senses, or, through memory, to precedent = past/nature.

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PostSubject: Re: Words Sat Jun 25, 2016 6:42 pm

To put it another way....whoever wishes to test Satyr's words, and his definitions of words, or anything he has ever said....all he or she must do is look.

For instance....take rape.
Satyr claims rape is natural, as a response to female sexual dominance, and only prohibited in human environments to establish a kind of order.
Other disagree, for no reason other than on moral grounds, or they have been taught rape is bad, and they are unwilling and unable to consider the subject objectively and rationally, but only emotionally, or because some authority figure once told them so, and they canto break free from the impact of this moment.

How, then, does one test this hypothesis?
Simple....veeeeeery simple.
Observe natural behaviour OUTSIDE Modern systems....
Since human tribes no longer exist unsoiled by modern influences, infections, look to organisms that lack the words to be infected by Modern Nihilistic memes...and so, are immune to human influence, memetic viruses, infections.
Does rape occur in nature?
under what circumstances?

Observe, watch, evaluate...do not take Satyr's word on it, or the morons emotional appeals.....look for yourself.
Do the same with every single idea, theory, probability Satyr has ever exposed you to, if you had not in the past.
The world is Satyr's greatest benefactor....in all ways, but in this case when it comes to philosophy.
Not only has Satyr never raped anyone, or advises anyone to rape, but he finds the need to rape as an indication of desperation - the last resort of a needy, base male.
Yet, can satyr become blind to the reality of rape, why it emerges and what function it serves?
No...because then he would be like the morons on ILP and in the Modern world at large, living in a world of unicorns, and bombastic vegetating brains, declaring themselves human, all too human, zombies, half-dead, rotting corpses, animated by their faith in the scripture, their hunger for eternity, for a resolution, for an escape.






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PostSubject: Re: Words Fri Jul 01, 2016 11:41 am

In the icon the "last man" finds the last vestiges of his one god.
A magical talisman, given whatever name is appropriate in the culture the mind exists within.

With it he wants to preserve the abstraction for which there is no external reference, no precedent, no experience of.
The symbol "exists" as a amalgamation of neurological processes, manifesting as emotions, sensations, imagery drawn from the environment, most often a man-made environment inundated with human codes and sheets of semiology.

Obsessed with subjectivty, he explores symbols, seeing in their self-referential harmony, proof of the Divine, of the external absolute yet to be made present; he gives it a name, and this alludes to understanding, an intimacy; he speaks of world when he means the inter-relating of symbols, shared, and compared, by conscious mind, and when he brings it "down to earth" he reduces it to the personal, the individual subjective, determined to destroy all external standards, outside of this theoretical absolute, to save ego from comparisons.
Contained within the shield of code, he surrenders to otherness, to minimize the cost, and hyper-inflate the benefits, reaffirming his own judgment as "just as good as any other".

A community of such minds create a cult of self-referential certainty, humbling themselves before other, while they identify with the greater Self - the chosen awaiting the coming of the yet to be present absent-absolute.



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PostSubject: Re: Words Tue Aug 30, 2016 9:50 pm

Precise usage of words leads to precise thinking - precise thinking is the organism harmonising its congruent patterns with the world as Flux.

Connecting the noumenon (words, symbol) to a phenomenon (apparent, presence) does not demystify existence, it clarifies the already mystifying.
The cosmos is mysterious, not only because it is unknown, and impossible to completely know, but mostly because of randomness (chaos) = increasing energies that lack all pattern, making the unpredictable, imperceptible, unreliable.
To add more confusion in the already counter-intuitive and perplexing, is an attempt to equate the confusion in the mind, with the chaos outside of it, implying a non-existent understanding.

The brain is a harvester of order, and a creator of order because the world is Flux - setting up the objective/subjective, master/slave, antagonism.
Consciousness emerges to deal with this state.

Demystifying a noetic construct, an abstraction represented by a word, does not eradicate appreciation, no more than the roots of a tree do not eradicate the appreciation of a tree.
Bottom<>Up thinking begins with the basic connection of noumenon-phenomenon, with word being the connector = Phenomenon <> Words/Symbol <> Noumenon, mirroring the triad, Mind <> Nervous System/Spirit <> Body ...
Love <> Desire/Need <> Lust

God <> Holy Spirit <> Jesus

Self <> Medium (air/water/light) <> Other

Object <> Interpretation <> Subject

Reason <> Will <> Passion


All reflections of the human mind awakening to its hierarchy of  Mind <> Nervous System/Spirit <> Body = self-awakening to Self, where Self is the sum of all past/nature.

Nobility = the self acting as a conduit to align past with projected idea(l) without disconnecting or rejecting, or forgetting.
To align past, or the parts the individual wishes to identify with, and to cultivate, with a projected idea(l) is to make self a means towards this end.

Idea(l) must be real(istic) = must have external to the mind, references - empirical; must have a phenomenal connection (sensual).
Metaphor may include one or more such references.  
To be in alignment is to not diverge from the past's patterns - balance, nor contradict them (Nihilism).
This implies precedent, which excludes all ideals based on fantasy, romantic hope, flights of fancy etc.
To be in alignment with past/nature is not to copy it, but to select the parts one wishes to accentuate/cultivate, to approach the idea(l) - growth.  

The Idea(l) is the standard against which the act, choice/judgment, is measured.
Good/Bad only have meaning in this context.
The Idea(l)'s quality is determined by the outcome of an approach towards it: what kinds of individuals it produces in relation to world in Flux

For example:
If an individual has intelligence as his idea(l), a concept including more than one pattern (behaviour), the way in which he understands the concept, and defines it, connecting it, or not, to world, will determine the outcome = cost/benefit.
Same applies for words like 'love', 'morality', 'trust', 'friendship' 'sex' and so on.

The more detached this word is from reality, the more the individual will fail to attain its idea(l).  


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