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PostSubject: Re: Words Tue Aug 30, 2016 10:10 pm

The only limitations for words are its dictionary definition, permitting a sharing of thoughts/concepts/sensations, and the world, determining its meaning and meaninglessness.

Moderns use previous applications as a limit, and abide by the meaning given to a word by a another mind.
This transfers the limit of world to the limit of another man - an authority - so that when they hear the word they immediately associate its meaning with how the necessary dictionary restriction of definition connects with the meaning given to it by this unnecessary intervening authority.
This is how philosophy becomes a debate over abstractions with no reference to reality - meaningless noetic constructs, usually referring to human feelings, internal private delusions, creative combinations etc.

In all cases linguistic, rules making communication possible, establish a shared meaning that may be validated, or contradicted, by world.
The word simply represents a noumenon, or an aggregate of noumena (metaphor), combined into a concept, passed on from mind to mind during communication.
How this abstraction is then connected with the apparent is to be decided by observation.
But this connection is necessary, if the dictionary meaning is to acquire a pragmatic meaning: meaning outside the human mind.    

It is not language which is a poor tool, but it is man's perceptual acuity that sets the limits for his awareness - language is simply a representation of this perceptual limitation.
Confused minds produce confused sentences.
Minds wanting to exploit and manipulate will use exploitative and manipulative words.  
Minds failing to find meaning, use meaningless language.
Words, how they are used, what order they are placed in, their patterns, their application, exposes the mind using them, and how it relates to existence - his/her motive, intent.

As with all that exists.....action precedes interpretation and symbolization - words follow the act, as a reaction to it - subjective mind reacting to objective world of flux.  

Trust: the evaluation of an individual's words, in elation to their deeds, their actions/behaviours.
Consistency (reliability) and harmony, establishes a relationship of trust.  

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PostSubject: Re: Words Wed Aug 31, 2016 1:05 pm

When a tool is placed in the hands of amateurs, or creative "artists" with questionable talents, and motives, it becomes a method of gratifying personal anxieties, and fulfilling private ambitions.
An artist interested in representing reality as accurately as possible, will direct his tool, using his limb, as an extension of his will, according to the limitations the world imposes upon him.
If he wishes to express his subjective relationship and reaction to what appears before us all, then his hand will shape using internal sources to guide it.

A philosopher is a hybrid, part artist & part scientist - it is the art of describing reality as accurately and honestly as possible, with no other motives and ambitions.
The world restricts the usage of his words, which are for him the tools he directs, suing hand or tongue, to shape the representations he considers most accurate, offering them to others for appreciation and critique.
His talent will be found in the accuracy of his representations as these are verified by everyone who shares in the same reality.
It is before world that his art is measured, and not the tastes of men with their own ambitions and motives, some of them unconscious and/or hidden.

Every other philosophical category will relate to this primary one - psychology, politics, metaphysics, morality, all extensions of focusing on a part of the primary reference of world.
A world within which man is but a small part of.

A word's application is not decided by the individual arbitrarily, with no justification.
it is applied in accordance to the dictionary definite, restricting usage so as to allow communication, and then it is directed by world, which it is attempting to connect to.
Even if it is used metaphorically, it is done so with the primary connection as the standard - the usage of metaphor, narrative, synonyms, is meant to approach a concept  from a different direction, using one pattern among many, which is included in the concept the words represent.
If this is not the case, then any motive can find words to trigger emotion, to seduce desire, to feed need, in the minds of those easily taken by such redirection, desperate to find a way to cope with a world that does not care for their personal subjective judgments.

It is not the world that adapts to human will, it is the will that adapts to world, or it suffers the consequences.        


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PostSubject: Re: Words Wed Aug 31, 2016 4:32 pm

Word confusion underlies the confusion regarding objectivity.


Dictionary Definition wrote:
ob·jec·tive
əbˈjektiv/Submit
adjective
1.
(of a person or their judgment) not influenced by personal feelings or opinions in considering and representing facts.
"historians try to be objective and impartial"
synonyms: impartial, unbiased, unprejudiced, nonpartisan, disinterested, neutral, uninvolved, even-handed, equitable, fair, fair-minded, just, open-minded, dispassionate, detached, neutral
"I was hoping to get an objective and pragmatic report"
2.
GRAMMAR
of, relating to, or denoting a case of nouns and pronouns used as the object of a transitive verb or a preposition.
noun
1.
a thing aimed at or sought; a goal.
"the system has achieved its objective"
synonyms: aim, intention, purpose, target, goal, intent, object, end; More
2.
GRAMMAR
the objective case.


Also...

Dictionary Definition wrote:
ob·jec·tiv·i·ty
ˌäbjekˈtivədē/
noun
the quality of being objective.
"the piece lacked any objectivity"
synonyms: impartiality, absence/lack of bias, absence/lack of prejudice, fairness, fair-mindedness, neutrality, evenhandedness, justice, open-mindedness, disinterest, detachment, dispassion, neutrality
"the quest for total objectivity is unrealistic"


Objectivity becomes crucial when it decides your fate, and you are not protected from the full effect of the costs of a mistake, a subjective error.
Only in modern western systems can a debate such as this over subjective/objective be taken seriously - in times of decadence and decline.
Using the above definition of objectivity there IS a superior and an inferior subjective judgment...with pragmatic real life consequences, if there is no mitigating protective force, such as state, parent, institution etc.
Consequences are costs/benefits to the interesting mind, the minds evaluating choosing, judging to the best of its mental abilities, and based on the quality of its perceptions and mental processing.  

#1 is the manner in which I apply it when explaining my metaphysical positions.
The majority choose to understand it as "perfect", "complete", "universal", and so fail to follow my reasoning.
They understand 'objectivity' in the way I understand 'absolute'.


Dictionary Definition wrote:
ab·so·lute
ˈabsəˌlo͞ot,ˌabsəˈlo͞ot/Submit
adjective
1.
not qualified or diminished in any way; total.
"absolute secrecy"
synonyms: complete, total, utter, out-and-out, outright, entire, perfect, pure, decided; More
2.
viewed or existing independently and not in relation to other things; not relative or comparative.
"absolute moral standards"
synonyms: universal, fixed, independent, nonrelative, nonvariable, absolutist
"absolute moral standards"
noun
1.
PHILOSOPHY
a value or principle that is regarded as universally valid or that may be viewed without relation to other things.
"good and evil are presented as absolutes"


Dictionary definition offers a starting point for communication to ensue....or for the connection of the definition, made by referring to world,and established as a linguistic meaning, with the world around us.
We reaffirm the meaning of the word that has been defined, by connecting it to its reference point, in mind, or in world.
The words Cyclops also has a dictionary definition, which we refer to the world, where it is absent, or to other minds, forming a cultural space, we have defined as memetic/culture.
The word 'cyclops' has no reference outside human brains, and only brains raised in the same culture, sharing the same memes.  
 
Absolute is what I call the absent-absolute, because it is nowhere to be found, has never been found, in any context, outside language, and will never be found.
The confusion of the mental abstraction for the real phenomenon, the representation for the present, is what has become a nihilistic symbol of liberation from the coldness of existence...and those who correct them are accused of evil motives.

Absolute = perfect, singularity, one, god, complete, end, whole...

The argument "a bachelor is absolutely not married," fails because marriage is a human construct, meaningless outside human brains.
All absolutes, including mathematical symbols, like 1/0 are mental constructs, used to represent reality, but with no reference outside brains.
The sarcastic retort "there are absolutely no absolutes" or "truth is there is not truth" fails, because the premises starts with the presumption of an absolute, and requiring absolute negation.
The only proposing an absolute is burdened with providing proof, and not the one rejecting the concept as more than a human mental fabrication..otherwise every absurdity would demand an equally absurd negation.    

The 'absolute' is a word describing a mental abstraction, what I call noumenon, to differentiate it from phenomenon.
The mind constructs ambiguous wholes, by simplifying/generalizing phenomenon (dimensional cutting away), using sensual stimulation - via a medium such as light, atmosphere etc. - which are converted into neural pulses, to be transmitted and processed in the brain.
But this does not mean the world is subjective, but only that consciousnesses is limited by its subjectivity.
The world does not alter to accommodate any and all interpretations of it - it remain indifferent to all interpretations, all subjective perspectives of it.
Subjectivity is another way of describing this interpretation process - the process of collecting data, via a medium, and its processing as representation - abstracting.  
Using the interpretations the organism makes a choice, it judges, it evaluates the alien other.

Objectivity now assumes its rightful place as assessment of all (inter)actions (flux), being interpreted.
Objectivity is this perception of the phenomena interacting, now abstracted as representation, and finding connections between them - the MEANING.
In other words, it is the perception and evaluation of patterns.

Objective reality means, the sum total of all (inter)actions, perceived or not, understood or not, correctly evaluated, or not...which affect the organism whether it likes it or not.

For example, if the Modern brainwashing has had an effect, then a women may choose to believe that races are social constructs, and she may then choose to marry a negro...but nature does not accommodate wishes. If her judgment is correct, having bought into Modern myths, then she will not require additional provisions to accommodate her choice.
If she has confidence in her judgment, then she ought not to demand social rules to produce artificial parity for her offspring.
We are still waiting for the Negro Einstein, the female Turin....like we are still waiting for the 'second coming' or the first coming of the 'true' messiah, until then the evidence stands as it is.    

Let time determine whose judgment was superior.

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PostSubject: Re: Words Wed Aug 31, 2016 7:50 pm

I've given up discussing anything of importance with the majority of minds, calling themselves "philosophers", and claiming to be interested in understanding, and applying this understanding.
Some refuse to define the very words they use, opting, instead, to evade, or to defer to some famous figure, as if by doing so a argument has been given - the name alone constituting proof of veracity, without getting into their understanding of the very icons they defer judgment to.
Most cannot define the words they use, having adopted them, they repeat them , only wishing to imitate the "positive" feelings they experienced when they first came across the particular application of the word.
A tiny minority use words to exploit the first two, having discovered the visceral power such representations can have upon such minds. Their interest in words does not enter the interest of philosophy, but lingers on the periphery, in political discourse, rhetoric, the art of convincing and verbal manipulation - they will be all-inclusive, "positive" on a superficial level, always polite and forgiving if the possibility exploitation remains a probability - liars adore the minds taken by the lie, but they also dismiss them as a necessary means to a private end: the art of the performance.

Using words to confuse, to remain incomprehensible, for fear that your motives and your true quality may not be revealed; using words to complicate, and redirect, and conceal.
Such are the words of a politician, and any man that is selling something, not a philosopher.

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PostSubject: Re: Words Thu Sep 01, 2016 5:16 pm

The quality of an idea(l) is not found in who said it, but in what degree the world validates it.
The speaker is appreciated only as the one who uncovered what was already present.


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PostSubject: Re: Words Thu Sep 01, 2016 5:25 pm

Man is not born into mankind, he is born out of mankind into world, and then immersed in human symbolisms - meme - sometimes not to emerge from it.

All memes, all cultures (symbols, morals, traditions, language) are measured in relation to world, making it possible for an individual to reject the culture he was enveloped by, soon after he was thrown into world, and select a new one, closer to the real, more in line with his own ideals.
An ideal is a projection of an individual's highest aspirations, not representations of the prefect.
The world determines the individual's, in relation to his ideals, and the ideal's in relation to world, costs/benefits - consequences.


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PostSubject: Re: Words Fri Sep 02, 2016 11:42 am

The practice of slightly changing the source material so as to claim that it is a unique, and different, creation, is typical f plagiarism, and the dishonest spirit, motivated not by clarity but by a desire to self-promote, climbing upon the shoulders of others to appear taller than he is.
When it comes to matters of theory, where only words, transmitting abstractions, are in play, this practice becomes more effective and insidious.
The element of appearance/presence is substituted by the element of emotion/passion, making it more difficult to discern where the plagiarist has altered the original to create something "new".

If such a mind were to attempt to make his creation tangible, apparent, pragmatic, the evidence of his tinkering would expose him and his motives, because other than self-aggrandizement an additional motive might be discovered as the emotion/passion motivating such transparent methods.
Such a motive could be found in material gain, sexual promise, ego inflation, political, or, as I've described in my proposition of a "[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]", where a slight modification in the word, changing, ever so slightly the nuanced meaning, implies a concept that clouds the intent with a metaphor that can then be used to connect to it concepts that are questionable, irrational, or, at least, unproven.

A metaphor not applied to clarify but to confuse the topic, purposefully, so as to then insert into it a proposition that would be laughed at, or would expose an ulterior motive having nothing to do with the concept represented by the word replaced.

As I have said a metaphor is a way of representing multiple concepts s a unified whole - an association of noumena under a single name (word).  
Integrity dictates that each concept will be able to be extricated from the unity of the metaphor and not lose its meaning - in the way it represents relationships of phenomena, and not noetic constructs existing only in the minds of men.
This is why it is such a useful tool for charlatans and politicians.
When integrity is absent, the metaphor can be used to associate the rational with the absurd, and then defend it as always being so with no justification and no connection to anything outside the mind of men where this metaphor exists.
It is a disingenuous way of relating incompatible concepts, using the malleable method of language, referring to noetic abstractions not restricted by phenomena and their relationships, or the order of world.  
It convinces the already initiated into this type of chicanery, having made of themselves willing victims of a lie, found in such Nihilistic religions as Abrahamism.
The liar exploits a weakness in his victims, who want to be lied to, because the truth is unbearable, or too mundane for them to accept as defining and determining them.  
To put it into the context of art, a plagiarist will alter a painting, so as to imitate its quality, and lay claim to its value, and the motivation to attempt such a disgraceful thing will be revealed in the slight differences chosen to appropriate the original and claim it as an original work.
The modification, other than masking the imitation, exposes the psychology behind the motive - it exposes the reason(ing) in the mind that plagiarizes.
The modification is the only part of the copy which is original.

To put it in yet a more tangible way....when an individual chooses a garment to place over his/her naked form, its style, its cut, the designer's name and style, reveals more than it conceals.
The colors, the way it falls over the body, the label, the price, all expose the reasoning behind the choice, and the application, the way the wearer has altered the original, the changes that were made, the accessories and so on.
In the desire to appropriate the creativity of the designer, to make the garment his/her own, the wearer, the purchaser, may do a disservice to the original's intent, and in that modification his/her own intent becomes clear.



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PostSubject: Re: Words Sat Sep 03, 2016 2:28 pm

In times of decay, the old is forgotten, opens the door to miners and liars, to re-dis-cover it, change it a bit, and then sell it as something new.
The Renaissance was the rediscovery of ancient wisdom stored in the libraries of the Muslims.
Only it was combined with Judaism to produce Christianity , choosing what parts could be harmonized because they were contradicting world-views, doing a disservice to both.

With Christianity in decline a novel, post-Modern, recombination is due - a new Abrahamic twist.



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PostSubject: Re: Words Sat Sep 03, 2016 3:34 pm

Words are weighted down by centuries of use and misuse.
They carry with them the fingerprints of all those that spoke them and wrote them down.

A good cleansing will have to precede the proper application, before we begin to improperly apply them, as metaphor simile, insinuation.

We begin with the Bible of Languages, a dictionary as the starting point.
Then we connect the definition to a reference point in space/time, in the world - in phenomenon or noumenon.
Then we explore and sample from the many usages, the needs, the words satisfied.

Then we choose, according to our motive, our own application.

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PostSubject: Re: Words Sat Sep 03, 2016 5:52 pm

As with all words the modern finds disturbing, or has been trained to automatically react to in a negative way, the words "race" as it refer to the concept of divergence, manifesting as appearance/presence, is purposefully ill-defined, or its is misunderstood due to simplicity of mind.

The Modern begins with the desired outcome, given a symbol, named, and then has to invent clever ways to justify the outcome in a world that does not bend to his human tricks, nor to his will.
I cal this 'crazy creativity, or creatively crazy'.

In the case of race, it signifies a genetic divergence due to genetic isolation.
In other species we might use different words, like 'breed", 'type'.
The concept does not imply a different species, if we properly understand and define species as a reproduction category - all species describe a population that can cooperate to pass on their genes.
This cooperation, l over time, distributes common attributes, and these are easily perceived sensually. The shared traits are a product not only of reproductive codependency, but also an evolved survival strategy, which becomes part of the essence of the species - its nature.
A testament to all the environmental and historical conditioning that were then distributed, unevenly, within the population due to their reproductive codependency.

A breed may not signify a different species, but ti does signify a step towards it... just as species divergence, such as polar bears and grizzlies, or dogs and wolves, may be considered different species, but can still inter-breed due to the short period of time the divergence occurred.
Nevertheless, the divergence has either advanced to a point where intermixing may produce unfit offspring, or the members of the species may choose to not mix with this different species.  
A breed, or race, is this divergence from the perspective preceding divergence, whereas these cousin species are examples of it from the perspective of following the divergence.

Race, in humans, and breeds, in other organisms, is the evolution of species, the splintering off of a species, which has not had sufficient time to finalize.
Appearance indicates this clearly.
Every trait is a change in potential.
A physical change, indicated by appearance, expresses the evolved change in potential - in probability.
Every thing else, concerning motives, hatred, and things moderns throw around to pretend they are intelligent, and that their motives are "good" are just more examples of Modern obfuscation.
They can do no more than confuse concepts by manipulating words.      

Organic Patterns = Life - Species - Breeds/Races.
Each sub-division is included in a category, a preceding division.  

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PostSubject: Re: Words Sun Sep 04, 2016 7:24 pm

Words like 'here' and 'now' indicating locality, only exist in the mind as indications of source which has already shifted.
Expanding space/time, and the speed of gathering and processing sense data, implies a temporal distance between noetic construct and phenomenon, producing the stimulation, via a medium, such as light/atmosphere.
local is also a simplification/generalisation, of interacting patterns - their interactions given meaning.

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PostSubject: Re: Words Mon Sep 05, 2016 12:06 pm

Let us consider the word “race” as the Moderns use it, reducing it to an insubstantial word, a word with no meaning other than as a dictionary term describing emotional reactions.
For the average, typical Modern, the word “race” has now been connected to the word “image’, by detaching it from appearance/presence.
Appearance implies uncovering of something real, image implies a construct, an intentional appearance; appearance with motive, fabricated to facilitate the motive’s realization.
For the Modern race is a matter of image, a social construct, and those using it in a manner contrary to the popular are motivated by hatred, or by esoteric needs.
Although this might be so for the majority of race mongers, the so called rednecks and skinheads, this is more so for these bleeding heart Moderns who are like the aforementioned only their mongering consists in evading the meaning the term “race” originally referred to: a perceptible divergence requiring an explanation in past/nature.
Reducing a concept to a word, and then connecting it to a noumenon, because that is what moderns do.
They detach the word ‘race”, representing a noumenon that relates to a phenomenon, and then they reattach it to a hypothetical noetic fabrication, in another’s mind.
By doing so they convert the word from one noting a difference, as is obvious from appearance/presence, into an abstraction a theory, a feeling, which can be fabricated, stimulated, changed.
From appearance to image, implying a shallow social construct. In this they agree with those rednecks and skinheads who also use it to fabricate a personal image.
This is what I’ve called the duality, the binary logic of the nihilistic paradigm, where good/bad, good/evil, Republican/Democrat are dominated by the same delusions – absolute one/absolute nil; polarity of the Modern’s cognitive box.
This reduction is a reduction in time/space dimensions – a dumbing-down.
Whereas race, for a realist, means an appearance which reflects the organism’s entire past/nature, for the modern’s redefined image, it is malleable, alterable, meaningless other than it is a choice, a form of expression.
An image is selected, therefore that these, so called, “racists” select it in the way they do must be explained using psychobabble.
For a realists the appearance of a Negro, or an Asian, is no more a selection than it is for a chimpanzee, or a dog, to look as they do. The selection of social artifices, like words, clothes, make-up, to cover this appearance does imply a motive of concealing.
The social construct is the covering-up of what is apparent/present.

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PostSubject: Re: Words Tue Sep 06, 2016 12:39 pm

Academic Pretenses
Academic minds seek acknowledgment from other academic minds.
They use the “proper jargon” academics will appreciate, even if they cannot define, or place in the world.
Sole criterion for an idea is that it has been given a name; it exists as a noumenon they can all refer and defer to.
Proper jargon places the academic into the class he seeks to be defined by.
The word may be nonsense, and have no meaning outside minds, but what counts is that it exists, as a specialized form of distinguishing the class of academics, form the laymen, who cannot trace back the word to its origins in the mind of another academic, or some famous figure academics are forces to acknowledge as being a contributing force into the fields of their interest.
An academic is primarily one who studies the history and symbols and relationships of the contributors in the field of his study – he has no other contribution. He answers questions about his specialty by referring and deferring, to those who practiced the discipline he studied theoretically.
When he is forced to answer a question he has no personal answer to he uses the methods, adopts the linguistics, of the field of his expertise, insinuating an understanding by association.
When asked to explain his, personal, positions about world, he cannot, without deferring and referring, using the jargon that distinguishes his expertise, and pretends to be deep and unapproachable, too complex for the laymen to grasp, if he does not make himself intimate with the appropriate jargon.

For example, when asked to explain the concept of “self”, the academic spirit, fearing that his personal ignorance will taint his institutional value, risking further advancement, will use terms like “uncanny”, because the term has been used by another intellectual, or pseudo-intellectual.  
He hopes that the listener will be so intimidated by the word that he will not look into the dictionary to read the conventional definition:

Dictionary wrote:
un·can·ny
ˌənˈkanē/
adjective
Strange or mysterious, especially in an unsettling way.
‘An uncanny feeling that she was being watched’
Synonyms: eerie, unnatural, unearthly, preternatural, supernatural, otherworldly, ghostly, mysterious, strange, unsettling, abnormal, weird, bizarre, surreal, eldritch;

He is admitting he cannot define a word which is a part of his expertise, implying that he is using it as another “thinker” used it, and this alone makes it a proper explanation.
If the academic is a pseudo-intellectual, and only adopts an academic spirit to insinuate that he is the equal of the career types, he will use this method to “explain” without explaining – to evade, pretending that if you reject his non-explanation you are actually contradicting all those “thinkers” who used the same word.
This is really an admission of ignorance, without dropping the pretence of gnosis.
A non-explanation explanation.
The other motive might be found in the conventional definition of the word, which in this case uses words like “supernatural”, ”unearthly” and so on, to indirectly imply what he cannot bring himself to admit openly: that his “rational” positions, are founded on irrational premises.  
His "genius" being nothing more than a convolution of concepts to imply an understanding of what he, himself, admits he does not, offering no more than indefinite definitions.

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PostSubject: Re: Words Tue Sep 06, 2016 1:01 pm

I had said that I want nothing more than an honest death. It made no sense to me in the modern conception of honesty being one who tells only truths in an absolutist sense. Claiming someone is dishonest is much more insulting than calling them incorrect. What I had said - I want an honorable death.

Honest - Honor

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c. 1300, "respectable, decent, of neat appearance," also "free from fraud," from Old French oneste, honeste "virtuous, honorable; decent, respectable" (12c.; Modern French honnête), from Latin honestus "honorable, respected, regarded with honor," figuratively "deserving honor, honorable, respectable," from honos (see honor (n.)) + suffix -tus. Main modern sense of "dealing fairly, truthful, free from deceit" is c. 1400, as is sense of "virtuous, having the virtue of chastity" (of women). Phrase to make an honest woman of "marry (a woman) after seduction" is from 1620s.
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PostSubject: Re: Words Tue Sep 06, 2016 1:08 pm

Word Definitions
The meaning of a word has two limits, making the word/symbol, a conduit between noumenon and phenomenon.
Its two limits are the language’s formal definition, found in the dictionary, and then the word’s representation of a noumenon, or a phenomenon.
If it only refers to a noumenon, it is an idea(l), a representation of a theoretical concept, an abstraction; if it refers to an observable, sensually experienced, apprent/presence, a phenomenon, it is pragmatic, realistic.
 

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The meaning of the word is not arbitrary, although it can be used metaphorically, to insert into its conventional definition an insinuation, a nuance.
A word’s meaning is determined by how the phenomena, noumena, relate, in the world, empirically, and/or theoretically, how they relate noetically.
Some metaphorical application combine the two into a theoretical unity. The problem with this is that one can insert nonsensical meanings alongside sensible ones, and then claim the unity as rational or mystical, depending on the meaning desired to be dominant in particular circumstances.
This method allows the association of nonsense with reason, relying on ambiguity to claim a meaning that exists only ni the minds of the users as a motive.

Most often emotion is inserted alongside reason, tainting reason, and giving emotion a rationality, through the compound unity of the rational and the irrational, the sensible and the mystical.

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PostSubject: Re: Words Tue Sep 06, 2016 1:23 pm

Meaning...

Formal Definition, according to a linguistic convention, tradition, evolved within specific environments (noumenon) -> Word/Symbol -> an appearance, presence, outside the organism's congruity (phenomenon)

The (->) represents the medium - green for bio-energy (neural pulse) and the red for light/atmosphere, electromagnetism etc.

Noumenon <>Word<>Phenomenon

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PostSubject: Re: Words Fri Sep 09, 2016 5:09 pm

The advantage and disadvantage of Nihilism is its detachment from reality.
With no external standard to discipline to, the mind can run wild, or seek in other minds, validation.
I've described this as the noumenon, detached from phenomenon, via the word/symbol, now acting as a tool of detachment.

The psychological benefits of this, are easy to understand, and I've gone through many of them.

Words, for Moderns, wishing to remain detached from a world that they cannot adapt to, or accept, because of the personal implications, must find validation in other, as I said, or from language itself.
A word is supported by using other words, because there is no external, to mind, reference to lend support and validation from.
From the very structure of code, its "inherent logic" does it attempt to ground its fantastically creative constructs.  

This is a form of self-referential logic, and we realize this when we become aware of the emotional, metaphorical imagery, being used as validation, in lieu of anything objective - external to minds.
Advantage of not being limited by anything outside self, or a collective Self, which is also its disadvantage, because outside of a collective in agreement, sharing the same needs, memes, the construct is useless - nonsensical... impotent.



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PostSubject: Re: Words Sat Sep 10, 2016 1:15 pm

An objective definition of a word cannot use other words as support - this is a linguistic loop, pretending to be speaking when nothing is being said.
Nor can it be based on the "I say so" command, for this is coercion, not conviction.

The word must be defined by returning it to its primary and original place, as symbol, as representation, as connecting neurological conduit between mind/body and between noumenon and phenomenon.
The phenomenon, its patterns, its place in meaning as a product of how it relates with other phenomena, will limit the word's definitions.
Only then can we dare use it artistically, creating metaphors to illuminate aspects of the phenomenon the word failed to thoroughly bring forward.
A metaphor is a transference of consciousnesses; shifting of consciousness, approaching the phenomenon from a different direction.

In modern times, too often, the metaphor is used in lieu of a focus on a phenomenon - as an airy chimera, floating in some vague time/space, in our mind.
lacking all substance, and so all usefulness, other than as a psychological comfort, and/or a mental toy, used to masturbate.

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PostSubject: Re: Words Wed Sep 14, 2016 8:07 am

Modern simple minds cannot conceptualize fluidity, returning to the either/or of truth/false, absolutes.
Fluidity demands a higher/lower probability understanding, where particular patterns produce a consistent, repeating, predictability, making life and consciousness possible.
These patterns - behaviors in the contexts of organisms - manifest as appearance, not to be confused with image, and are interpreted by the subjective mind (perspective).
The results, the expression of this judgment this choice, based on interpretation, are costs/benefits.
Cost/Benefit, if not mitigated by a protective other, are what measures the judgment and the interpretations of (inter)acting patterns.

Not philosophical word-playing, not political spin-doctoring, not personal taste, not declarations of conviction.

An ideal is the projection of a desirable cost/benefit outcome.
Some rooted in reality, in precedent, and others detached from it, existing as theoretical, naive idealism.
Past is a good indicator of future behavior, because this is the essence of pattern.
Where and when they do slightly diverge it is due to the (inter)action with a variety of other patterns, and more significantly with non-patterned, random, energies, with a final source of diverge being a willful diversion from the path-of-least-resistance, towards a path-of-more-resistance that only organic entities can achieve - free-will.

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PostSubject: Re: Words Wed Sep 14, 2016 8:14 am

Mysticism, the occult, can be placed within the realm of complexity, and of randomness.
Complexity offers the possibility of a secret, hidden order (patterns interacting) the average mind is not privy to, but randomness (chaos) offers no such possibility and so is looked upon with anxiety/fear - the forever unknowable, manifesting in unpredictable events.

Occultism, sometimes, attempts to unify complexity and randomness, so as to imply that in randomness there is a hidden order only initiated, talented few can grasp.
Reason is dominant because it is man's constant ordering of what is increasing in randomness, going through the state of increasing complexity.
We need not add to mysticism, because it is already present and expanding, leaving us with the work of finding patterns in complexity, or finding ways to accept randomness as necessary.    

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PostSubject: Re: Words Tue Sep 20, 2016 8:32 pm

The irony of words, exposing them as representations, is that the moment you have to declare yourself something, using words, you've already admitted that it isn't obvious, and possibly not true.
For example, an artist who have to declare himself a "brilliant" creative, unique, artist, has already admitted that this is not clear, or that it is not so.


What the word does is expose, by being the connector between noumenon, and phenomenon.
It points things out in world, to draw attention to them.
In the case of self-flattery, the motive is to draw attention to self when the creation, externalized, the behavior acted out has failed to receive the attention expected, or the degree of attention demanded.
A strong man does not have to say he's strong, because it's obvious to all who see him, or have witnessed him (inter)act.
The weak man declares himself strong.

A brilliant actor imitating someone does not have to say who he is imitating, who he is pretending to be, it is obvious. The not so talented actor states it, insecure about his talent, and intuitively aware that his act is poor, and he talents.
A beautiful women actually understates her own beauty, whereas an ugly women pronounces it, accentuates it to the degree she feels insecure about it, oftentimes painting her face like a clown, making it painfully obvious how not beautiful she is, more so because of how desperately she tries to hide the fact.

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PostSubject: Re: Words Sun Sep 25, 2016 7:10 am

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Let us consider the phenomenon, the congruity of patterns, we call dog, in English.
Chien in French, kυνος/σκυλι in ancient and modern Greek.
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The word/symbol is different depending on the code/language used, but the noumenon it symbolizes, the mental interpretation of phenomenon dog, is relatively the same.

Word/symbol refers to noumeon/abstraction which is a simplification/generalization (this is where relative fits in to describe varying levels of knowledge/perception = understanding) of an (inter)active, dynamic phenomenon, with a particular behavior.
The (inter)activity/behavior is not perceived equally - some see more details, others less, some have access to knowledge or instruments that can study said phenomenon microscopically, internally, adding nuances to the phenomenon dog, (I'm sticking with the English code/word for it) and some do not, some are deaf or colour blind, others are not, some are idiots, and some are not.
Some see dog, the particular, or dog as part of a broader pattern a species (canine), with similar behavioral (interactive) patterns.  

So congruity of patterns dog, perceived in more or less detail (more or less patterns perceived within the congruity), and dog as a congruity within a bigger congruity/pattern, called species, or breed....as a sub-category of species.  

Does the Chinese versus the French symbolization used to refer to the pattern(s) dog change the pattern(s) dog, the apparent... NO.
could it change how the individual relates to the pattern(s) dog...YES.
The shared meme established a code/symbol tradition, and a way of relating, reacting (learned, trained).
The genetic code, "written" in past, through trial/error (natural selection), establishes the genetic code determining the traits mental/physical, that is called canine - the range of probabilities for each pattern in the congruity, and how it relates with the other patterns.
How this genetic code emerges and interacts with other phenomena, establishes the particular dog - the personality of the aprticular dog....named, by a human to differentiate it form others of its kind...let's say Bingo.
Bingo the dog.

Breeds of dog are human creations, but not so in nature where we have breeds of species, as a result of genetic isolation, environmental conditioning, over time.
This is how species splinter-off from a common ancestor, gradually, producing intermediate behavioral/interactive types....in humans we call these races.
Species refers to reproduction, sexual replication....and so a dog is a population of organisms sharing a genetic code, behaving in similar ways, appearing in similar ways, within an upper/lower range of probability, that can use one another to combine their genetic codes - heterosexual reproduction.

So, a splintering-off of species, occurring gradually, still retains this ability to recombine genetic codes...like a grizzli and a polar bears, like a wolf and a coyote, like a horse and an ass, like a tiger and a lion and so on.
In this case the gradual splintering has not finalized, and yet we speak of different species.
In the case of humans the same.....races represent an unfinished splintering, that has not finalized.

But, back to words.
So, the word Dog, in any other language, is pretty straight forward, but what of more obscure abstract concepts, like the word "species", or the word "freedom"?
Here meme establishes the meaning, the manner the brain will connect different phenomena, into a singular concept, symbolized by one word, or one icon.  
This is where the common charlatan imposes his manipulations to take advantage of confusion, ignorance, stupidity, and cowardice.

Reconnecting words with noumena and phenomena, returns them to their utility as symbols/code connecting abstraction with the apparent.
This, immediately eliminates a huge part of the charlatan's sources of manipulation/exploitation - it disarms the fake, the word-smith, the priest, the con-artist, the typical magician.
But not all words can be so easily returned to their original utility, because some words are symbols referring to congruities of patterns, or are metaphors for them.
Μεταφορα, Μεταφερο...transport, in this case meaning....where meaning means how patterns relate how they (inter)act.

Inserting, what I've called a "Trojan horse" concept into such a combination of patterns begins the process of associating the rational with the irrational.
after continuos usage the mind will be unable to disassociate what does not belong together - often contradicting one another.
unable to trace back to the source of the confusion the mind will settle the contradiction, and the paradoxes it raises, with mysticism....
Mysticism covers the concept with a veil of vagueness, ambiguity, where each mind can place its own meaning - usually emotional, intuitive.
Mysticism blurs the concept, instead of clarifying them it clouds them so that the paradoxes are lost in the haze.
Emotion, pleasure, sensation deals with mental confusion.

Noumenon is now disconnected from an unruly, indifferent, unknown phenomenon, and attached to emotion.
Solipsism creates a sense of power, as both noumenon and emotion are controllable, under willful influence.
The word is converted to a magical icon, with magical powers over the mind...emotional in other words.
Organism feels empowered, its own authority.
Words now a conduit from one noumenon to another - one part of the brain triggering another - compartmentalization, schizophrenia.

Returning to dogs....the concept now can acquire a metaphorical mythological meaning, connecting the noumenon, dog, away from the phenomenon, but towards psychological esoteric sensations.  
Since the real no longer limits the mind, dog can be give three heads, named Cerberus, and given a metaphorical existence, referring to how human being relate to the unknown, or to patterns they are unable to integrate into abstractions.
Multiple congruities can now be metaphorically refereed to....their divergent meanings, including sensations, emotions.... transferred/transported to the singular image/icon, symbol.

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PostSubject: Re: Words Sun Sep 25, 2016 11:27 am

Under the heading of anthropomorphize we must include the manner by which Modern Nihilists have redefined concepts like "value", "humanity", "love", "morality", "god", "one/nil".

Having detached the words from their wordy references, their meaning in reality, their noetic connections to phenomena, they substitute what was lost with an emotion, or an human abstraction, usually consciousness, or the organic focus of aggregate energies we call will.

Value, ceases to be a reference to a human objective, goal, ideal, measuring a phenomenon, an appearance, a presence, but it acquires motive, or an emotional component or an innate quality like will.

Humanity, detached from its original biological meaning concerning reproduction, becomes a mystical concept with its own identity, its own innate will, its own emotional baggage.

Love, losing its utility in reproduction, weening, and social cooperative unions, becomes a human emotion describing the divine, the absolute.

Morality, detached from its organic genetic roots, as a behavior facilitating social cooperation, and reproduction, becomes a universal, a divine force, a mystifying power.

God, disconnects from nature/past and is cast as a man in the beyond, willful, conscious, judgmental, loving/hating.

One/Nil, are mystified, changing them from symbols of binary logic, representational, approximations, into absolute things, being and non-being, good/evil, completed order/chaos.



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PostSubject: Re: Words Sat Oct 01, 2016 6:11 pm

Anti-Nihilist Serum...first dose.

The others are in the "fridge", Adyton.

Zombie wars are coming.

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PostSubject: Re: Words Mon Oct 03, 2016 7:13 am

Visceral power of words is perceived in a child's return to the lowest-common-denominator of his understanding of a phenomenon.
Distress also has the effect of regression to a primal, immature state.
Mind turns inward to deal with the outward, and from there it throws out threatening noises, formed into word; words associated with its basest instincts relating to what conforts it, and frightens it.
Fear closes off all unimportant brain processes, like stress shuts down body processes, pin preparation for fight/flight.

Source of fear is labeled with symbols, imagery, words, that come out of the most visceral parts of the psyche.
In modern times, where environment is entirely made up of human symbols, primal fear finds images, symbols, in memory, placed there by meme, to make sense of the incomprehensible, or what cannot be dealt with using any other means.
Cornered animals will attack, as a last ditch effort to survive.

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PostSubject: Re: Words Thu Oct 06, 2016 11:50 am

In the previous [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] division I place the starting point in the center, physical realm - experience, empiricism, sensual perception.
Bottom<>Up thinking is this foundation on the "bottom", consciousness and "up" refers to the towards the underlying metaphysics and towards the desirable, ideal, the objective.


Nihilists, and men-children, begin from the ideal, and move towards the real, to selectively integrate it into their already established ideal, and their metaphysics, if they have any, is the extension of this process.
Because metaphysics deals with the imperceptible, the abstract it is placed before physics, and after their ideal.
Metaphysics lends itself to any mystification, the ideal requires to then make the real shape itself accordingly.
The word is how Nihilists begin because it is the abstraction of the Ideal - a pure noetic construct, metaphysics fleshed-out, to then place reality as an extension.
Reality is the end point, rather than th starting point, and ideal is the starting point rather than the end point.
Metaphysics is shifted to accommodate.

The realist deduces metaphysics form physics, whereas the nihilist deduces reality from metaphysics which is justifying the starting point, the ideal - the noumenon.
Ideal is now a foundation for the real, rather than the real being a foundation for the ideal.

Words begin with a disconnection form reality so as to then be used in mystifying ways, all based on the already established foundation.
Rather than connecting the noumenon to an uncertain phenomenal world, they connect a phenomenal world to a certain noetic ideal.
Nihilistic inversion.
Metaphysics are place above the physical.
Meme precedes genes.
Meme does not emerge out of genetic interaction with cosmos - flux - but gene, now, emerges out of the memetic idea(l).
This si why sexual roles and races are redefined as social constructs, as though there was never a period of no society = all is society.
Marxism
Society of humans.

Society did not emerge out of an organic reaction to nature, cosmos, but now flips causality, linear time, and can contradict reality.
Words did not develop to deal with world, but words ARE world.


Manipulating words is the same as manipulating world =- world makers,, world destroyers, all with the magical power of symbols.
Place a symbol on top of a natural phenomenon and you dominate it, you control its energy.

Delusion based on how words can manipulate and control human minds.
World = Humanity.
Humanity = natural agencies tapping into cosmic flows.
The natural antagonism of life with world, ordering with flux, is dismissed as a product of the organism's disharmony, its ignorance.
God = love, means just that. All is benevolent towards life, if life learns to submit, learns to tap into god's mind.
God speaks to man in every vibration, and the speech is meant to help - goodness.

All is good, if you inebriate yourself to a degree that you silence doubt, you repress the manifestation of ordering which is ego.
All is love, or some other positive symbol, words, metaphor.

Agon, of Hellenism, is converted to a fight with self.
Faith.
Hellenic asceticism is converted to Abrahamic and Buddhist asceticism.
How to tame the real.
The latter depend on a system of protection, allowing the ascetic to tune-out, to turn inward, and survive, or it must lie.
Christianity, and Islam, have become systems of hiding duplicity, learning it form their source-mother.
Say one thing, think a second, and act a third.




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PostSubject: Re: Words Thu Oct 06, 2016 12:01 pm

Soul/Spirit = a reference to the sum of all past nurturing, known and most importantly the unknown, expressed though intuition, instinct, genetic potential, or sub-consciously through dreams, when consciousness is repressed and/or underdeveloped.

Spirit is undying, in the organic sense, because the word represents a continuum - genetic/memetic memories.

For Moderns it has been used in place of the abstract, the idea(l).
An idea never dies if there remains at least one mind that thinks it.
God's "immortality" is based on the mass of believer's faith.
As long as there are believers god exists as idea.

Pure noumenon - what Nihilists call Divine.
Existence independent from mind placed below that of an idea absolutely dependent no minds.
Moderns choose ideal, in the conflict between real/ideal.
they do not dismiss the idea, as lacking, or an error, but they dismiss the real for failing to adhere to the ideals decree.
They need followers, a clan, a cult, a collective, otherwise their abstractions fade out of existence.

A realists is not so constrained....his ideas remain, whether he is alive or not, because they are connected to phenomena = patterns that existed before his birth and will continue on, after, for a time.
He needs no faith because reality is.
His only faith is in his own talent and ability to perceive it, and adapt to it, or exploit it.


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PostSubject: Re: Words Thu Oct 06, 2016 12:19 pm

It's always the simplest of words hijacked by Nihilists, to manipulate and exploit, because their target audience are the masses of simpletons, ignorant cowards, feeble spirits, mentally handicapped, the insane, and addicted, the ill and desperate.

Simple words with powerful psychological connections, and personal implications.

They want to mystify them, or shred them of all meaning, to make them less hurtful.
They are not interested in philosophy to attain clarity, but as another form of hedonism.
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PostSubject: Re: Words Sat Oct 08, 2016 6:41 am

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The magical power of the symbol, the word, can be traced back to the mental effect of patterns upon the human brain, and how belief and conviction works upon the body, through the brain.
Symbols have had profound impact on the mind of the human species, when it began to trace the shape of an animal on his cave walls.
The act must have seemed magical to him, as if the animal’s essence were transferred along with the shape.
Today we see symbols used in religion, having such an effect, not so different from the placebo effect, or when people get tattoos of Chinese symbols for “health”, or “courage” believing the symbols on their body will imbue it with the concepts inscribed symbolically.

We experience a similar conviction when Moderns declare a position "wrong" believing the word itself magically denounces a concept they cannot justify away, or how they think that by rejecting a word, with words, the concepts the words refer to is also destroyed - erased from existence - or that by degrading words/symbols you eliminate their magical power to bring into existence phenomena that frighten and disturb.

Magical power of symbols is known to Christians who use the cross to great effect.
Symbols touch the deepest part of us, because they stimulate the nervous system, of which they are a representation.
Their power does not go beyond the body, or the collective body of all those sharing in the code of semantics, but if it convinces it can be translated to an externalized action, motivating the human, as agency, to have an impact on world.

The only power a symbol has, verbalized or traces into a shape, a pattern, is psychological, and through this psychological effect ti can effect body, which, in turn, can affect world, through action.
"First came the word" meaning one first affect the mind of the one you wish to motivate into action.

A form of subtle coercion.

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PostSubject: Re: Words Sat Oct 08, 2016 7:00 am

The human, effect of words, is also described by Orwell in his artistic way of describing a world where by twisting words, one can twist "reality", or by completely eliminating words form the vocabulary, makes the concept cease to exist - like freedom.
It is so.
Without the symbol the mind has trouble conceptualizing the abstract, because the abstract is a noetic construct, with no external references, or an amalgamation of such references into one.
How would man conceptualize the totality of processes and states included in the abstraction of "health" without the symbol/word?

The power to incorporate multiple concepts, a multiplicity of patterns into a singular symbol/word, or to contradict experience, negate it, with a symbol/word, makes the symbol appear magical to a mind coveting this ability in reality.
The mind convinces itself of its deepest desires given a minimum of stimulation.
A dying man grasps on the possibility of another man's healing words, chants.

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