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PostSubject: Nihilism Mon Apr 27, 2015 8:58 am

In our effort to define [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] we have to define what the term Nihilism means.

The popular, Modern definition describes nihilism as the position that denies the presence of meaning, purpose, morality, in the universal, absolute sense.
The absence of these human constructs.
We now know that this is not a nil but a syn, not a negative but a positive, because it is this absence which lends man the leeway to create, to think, to become, in accordance to his own will.
Chaos, along with order, participates in the existent, and without chaos, or the absence of absolute order, the one, life would be impossible.

To clarify we must say ordering, and chaoting, as all is a process towards...

We have defined what negative/positive is objectively.
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], and we've explained how superior/inferior can be applied in relation to a projected idea(l), and in relation to a species trait, which distinguishes this species in relation to other species, which in the case of the human species it is intelligence.
We have defined intelligence, as abstracting (processing data), perception of patterns (perceiving ordering), projecting of these patterns as object/objectives (idea(l)s (using the imagination which remains attached to reality rather than detaching from it into fantasy/delusion), and we've (re)cognized courage as a crucial part of human wisdom, see [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.].

We have explored what the concept "human" means, and why male/female is an indispensable part of the category.

Having done all that we can now understand Nihilism as the denial of the absence of absolutes which makes existence, and the experience of existence, possible, and we can now understand how and why it is such  a fundamental part of Modernity, and the Modern psyche.

So, from all this we can now differentiate between different forms of Nihilism, as these are produced by human psychology, since Nihilism is the denial of what "IS", or the denial of nature, existence, and the (re)cognition that this absence of human abstractions, such as meaning, purpose, oneness, morality, and so on) is what allows man to exist and to create and to become.    
All projections of absolutes being rooted in noetic abstractions, and so directed by organic needs, and shaped by organ hierarchies, which we now know manifest as personality, the study of which we call psychology.


Masculine Nihilism = The creator sex expresses his nihilism in the form of absolutes, which he then projects upon a world that lacks them.
He is a positivist, in the sense that he offers to the others what there is no evidence for, and he justifies it by manipulating their nature.
Because there is no telos, this manipulation comes at the cost of his own reasoning.
He must believe his own constructs if he is to convince others of their validity.
This creates the priestly psychology, which, ironically, becomes successful if self-emasculation, self-castration, takes place, bridging the gap between master/slave by turning all into slaves and projecting mastery the "beyond" (before, immanent, above, below - the dimensional factors vary depending no the style and method).

This is seductive to the feminine psyche, or to a child who has yet to mature into a masculine type, resulting in atrophying (retardation).

The Priest essentially emasculates himself so as to appear as part of the flock he must seduce, and then proposes himself as the bringer of greatness, of salvation, of positivity.
Such a type will use grandiose words, will appear as a Messiah and if not recognized, appreciated, by the many, because quantities is how he understands qualities (reducing it all to the binary 1/0), he will suffer greatly.
This type is usually the one who comes with "good tidings", a form of a saviour, messiah complex, or as a good natured salesman, with fantastic, easy, solutions to remedy humanity's woes.      


Feminine Nihilism = The submissive sex expresses her nihilism in the form of being taken by the strongest idea(l).
Since entropy increases with no effort, this may become her strongest seducer. The effortless way in which chaos increases at the cost of ordering, which struggles to maintain, is what attracts such minds to the idea(l) of pure negation.
Being that all organisms are a mix of masculine/feminine psychologies, if the masculine is pronounced such a feminine mind will be seduced by the priestly type, mentioned before, offering a "positive" solution to the absence.
Attracted to the promised power of order, often presented as an absolute and indifferent God, or completion, or whole (outside space/time, and so indifferent to the real), such a psychology will gravitate to the Priestly "positive" messiah type.
If her masculine side is pronounced enough she may become disillusioned by the medium, the priest himself, recognizing him as what he is, but will not abandon the absolute which will remain untouched by worldly attritions being that it is placed outside space/time (immanent, hidden, above, below etc.)

To put the same dynamics in a different context, so as to clarify them, we can divide Nihilism into the "positive" and the "negative" kind.

The pure Nihilist, or the honest one, is the one who wants total annihilation - craves it as a solution to his existential wakening.
He does not deny the absence of absolutes, but denies the ordering which struggles to maintain itself within (inter)action, within the Flux.
He is usually fatigues, existentially, not wanting to participate in the agon any longer, and feeling ashamed of it he may try to convince others to join him in his self-destructive, annihilation of world.
Now only does he want to deny himself the experience of existing, as need/suffering, but he wants to leave nothing behind to shame him with its endurance.  
This is the honest Nihilist.

But then we have the most popular form of Nihilism, which characterizes Modernity, and it comes in multiple variants BECAUSE it nullifies existence, rejects the phenomenon, which would restrict his options, and frees himself, noetically (fantasy, self-numbing, delusion, escapism etc.) to then live in his own world (subjectivity, perspectivism.
This kind is a by-product of civilization because this turning inward, excluding the real, would result in a quick death if not for the protective, sheltering of human artifices, which maintain a protective cocoon so as to then exploit this type for various reasons, not to be explored here.

The "positive" Nihilist negates the real, the absence of absolutes, not by wanting to annul it further, but by projecting upon it a nullifying absolute - a human construct.
This is from where his variations come from. His solution tot he absence of an absolute take on as many forms as the human imagination allows, and since the imagination is now liberated from the real, the phenomenon, the noumenon can combine concepts in as many ways as can be imagined.  
This detachment is what he calls his "freedom" and "infinity"; a non-restrictive expansion of time/space; possibility unbound by probability - chaos unhindered by ordering.
The "positive" Nihilist is hypocritical. He lies to himself, if not only to others, using the proposition of absolutes as a seductive offering to those who crave meaning, purpose, an object/objective they cannot produce in themselves, and those unable to cope, psychologically, with this absence.




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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism Mon Apr 27, 2015 9:14 am

In the context of semantics (language, symbols, numbers/words), the negative Nihilist will not only deny words as meaningful but will deny words utility.
Not only do all words refer to nothing but human constructs, for them, but they can never refer to anything real.

The (re)connection of nouemnon with phenomenon is rejected, as impossible, and unwanted. The words are supposed to remain toys, detached, to permit a solipsist immersion, and to finally detach all minds from reality, as a negative state.
Words are to remain detached and malleable: meaningless, with no reference to anything outside the human brain.
This would be a self-annulment,a s the individual has been taken out of existence.
But it will also propose a reinforcement of the mechanisms that protect this detachment form resulting in death, or pain/suffering.
So, they will acknowledge otherness in the human sense, while rejecting otherness outside the human.
Subjectivity being reconstituted as a collective unconscious with no reference outside this collective unconscious - a sum of subjectivity within a greater Subjective.
The Matrix metaphor.

The "positive" Nihilist will choose a different path towards self-negation, and rejection of world as void of absolutes.
Because he cannot rationalize the presence of absolutes based on experience, connecting noumenon to phenomena, he will project this artifice, this Absent absolute, outside space/time - in other words outside existence itself...into a noetic non-existent plane he will define as more real than reality, or "better" or as a hidden immanent world never present, void of presence.

The process is quite easy. The mind takes the experienced, the interpreted abstraction literally (the word/symbol is the real), or he overturns the experience of existence (nullifies it) as (inter)active, as linear (case/effect), as Flux (negating fluidity, phenomenon, with a static absolute, a nouemnon).
To protect it from scrutiny, exposing it for what it is, he will place it in the before, after, hidden, and it will always be a word with an emotionally positive nuance, protecting it from assault (love, value, compassion, God, empathy, conciousness, pleasure, Being, One...etc.).




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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism Mon Apr 27, 2015 9:28 am

Detachment from the real takes the form of detaching the actor from the act, the apparent from the appearing, the noumenon from the phenomenon...the word, referring to an idea(l) from the real.  
Once this detachment has been manufactured, for those that could not do so themselves, it seduces those who desperately want to escape the determined, and their own appearance; their existence.

It becomes popular, and because quality has now been associated with quantity, the majority is taken as evidence of validity, of value.
The projected goal (object/objective) is the idea(l) that nullifies the real, and this goal, projected outside space/time, is what lends it value, purpose, meaning.

The majority is essential, as in popularity, because such contrivances can only be convincing, can only result in a cocooning, if many are a part of the lie.
Without this numerical sheltering the Nihilist faces grave consequences. His delusion must be encased within a multitude of like-minded individuals who, like schooling fish, will protect him from the repercussions, and give him a  sense of safety.  

If we are to explain it naturally it is the same psychology which enables an individual to immerse itself within a group, sacrificing self to make the immersion harmonious, because facing the world on its own, directly, is not possible.
This insecurity, weakness, makes almost any self-sacrifice a matter of survival.

The individual now co-exists within a different world, so as to deal with the actual world.
The Nihilist needs mass appeal, mass participation, multiplicity of subjectivity, to make his own escape plausible, just as the fish needs others who will exhibit a uniformity of behaviour to make its participation in the swirl of fish, confusing predators, possible...and the Priest needs a following to make his submission before the ONE less shameful, and less costly.
His emasculation is compensated for by lording over those who are lower than him, as they cannot be the medium connecting the weak with this supreme power, this gift, this message....this Word.    

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism Mon Sep 24, 2018 6:05 pm

Nihilism = linguistic ideology, that warps words (semiotics), starting with the concept of Nihilism.
A defensive reaction to an emerging self-awareness - by-product of self-consciousness.
The brain protecting itself, and the body it is a part of, from its growing awareness of self, and its place within the world.
Biblical allegory of Adam & Eve alludes to 'shame', or vulnerability before otherness.

It becomes a defensive measure against chaos - randomness.
All is affirmed as ordered, as hiding a yet to be discovered order (complexity), which is part of Abrahamic dogma - to be expected because Abrahamism is, in the west, the spiritual expression of Nihilism.
In the east it took a different ideological, spiritual, path.

Nihilism, the philosophical, and political, ideology is built on this defensiveness - an inversion of the relationship of subjective/objective, the real/ideal.
Semiotics no longer connect mind, and the body, to reality, making adaptation possible, but attempts to invert the process to a connection of reality with mind, forcing the world to adapt to mind.  
The costs for such a delusion are absorbed by a protective system (sheltering), or the Nihilist never practices his/her own stated principles (hypocrisy).
Symbiosis of parasite with host, meme and gene, is also possible. In this case Nihilism is a tool, to exploit and manipulate the host.
We only have one example of such a survival based symbiosis. In this case the Nihilist is protected from the world by hijacking a host, which acts as a protective shell, adjusting the severity of the costs to the application of Nihilism.

Language is an art-form.
Nihilism is the manipulation of art to detach from reality.
Instead of representing world it projects representations of its reaction to world.
The process from exoteric to esoteric is inverted.

Art, and semiotics, externalizes abstractions (synthesis of data from external (sensual) sources, and internal sources).
It re-translates and externalizes abstractions using an alternate medium.
Because the mind is not bound by space/time, like the body is, it can synthesize abstractions into unrealistic forms, or invert the perceived into its negation - this last is what is formally known as Nihilism.
Where nothing immutable, indivisible, complete, perfect, is ever experienced the mind fabricates it as a concept which remains viable because it is always vague - obscurantism is essential to Nihilism.

Feminization, post-modernism, compartmentalization, schizophrenia, narcissism, Messianic spirit, are offshoots, collateral effects.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism Mon Sep 24, 2018 6:25 pm

The brain, part of the body, evolved to facilitate survival.
Nature is not about producing the most aware, most intelligent organism.
Awareness is detrimental to its well-being, not only exposing the individual to itself, and how this relates/compares to other, but also exposing it to possibilities it cannot completely process, and to the degree that it can, producing stress in it.
The brain is a tool, a self-sustaining organ. It's primary intent is to protect the organism form the world.
If awareness proves threatening it will turn-away internally....with nothing tangible to 'fight', it will 'flee' inward.
Within its own noumena is where it finds shelter. If these do not suffice it adopts the noumena of others - it adopts ideologies of nihilism, using language and art, to construct an esoteric alternate reality, as far away as possible form the phenomenal, indifferent, world 'outside': a world not swayed by symbols/words,, but only by actions, and even then the outcome is never guaranteed and always incomplete, uncertain, in comparison to the noetic esoteric.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:49 am

The idealization of reality, its conversion to noetic abstractions, with an a priori binary automated substratum, leads to a either/or world-view.
From the perspective that all is 'negative', the pure Nihilistic psychosis, all degrees are reduced, downgraded, to nil, the zero.
From the perspective of the duplicitous 'positive' Nihilistic psychosis, all degrees are uplifted, upgraded to a one, an ideal.

For the first there can be no 'right', all is equally wrong; for the second there can be no wrong, all is equally right.
Both must find the underlying right/wrong in all they perceive...looking for God, or Satan, in the details.

The irony is that both need the lie to cope with reality, as it is. Both the 'positive' and the 'pure' Nihilist must medicate himself/herself, to find this 'secret absolute' or to cope with its absence.
Some may even pretend to worship chaos, or the Dionysian, when they exist in approximating Apollonian environments, unable to deal with how 'overwhelming' and/or 'underwhelming' their existence is.
They dream of an idealized reality - negatively or positively inclined - and claim to desire chaos, change, when they can't even endure the modern state of order without religious and chemical aids, and without linguistically constructed, or destructive abstractions.
Unable to endure uncertainty, the fluctuating real, denying them absolutes, they must construct them, in their mind, and believe in them, literally, or they must deconstruct them, in their mind, and not believe in them or anything of the mind.
Being denied of an absolute, they EITHER fabricate it and linguistically validate it, OR they slander and denounce it altogether. Fighting ghosts in their heads.

Degrees are lost, and with them the artistic representation of fluidity.
They can't rely on probabilities, in the time/space possibilities, because they need absolutes, they need certainties, they need ones and zeros, ends, a telos....a whole....and without them the world is 'negative' and must be made 'positive' by injecting it with noetic constructs.
Some will say they crave what they are unable to endure without lying, or redefining it into something corrupted by their self-deceit.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism Wed Sep 26, 2018 10:36 am

Idealism is a form of incomprehension.
Unable to fully appreciate the circumstance, represented by the idea, represented by the word, the mind exaggerates it using its own needs/desires.
The jungle is idealized, along with the self, to make survival more probable within it.
The concept loses its complexity, its indifference, and becomes an idea warped by the mind's psychology.
It can either do no right, or do no wrong. It is either entirely good, or entirely bad.
There are no gradations.
With the binary idealization of the other, the mind idealizes the self in relation to it.
The other is either entirely good, for the self, or entirely bad for it. The mind is either absolutely right or absolutely wrong.
Higher probability, approaching certainty, becomes absolute certainty based on self-serving overestimation and/or underestimation. A method of coping.
Words expressing this higher probability become representations of the absent absolute.
The mind becomes entrapped/entrenched, in its own abstractions: either god-like, or a part of a uniform nothing looking for the god-like: order/chaos pushed to their logical limits.

Hierarchies, fluctuations, degrees, levels, gradations implode and/or explode into noetic ideals.
A method of efficiency used to produce conviction, and with it effectiveness.
All doubt must be expunged if the organism is to act, and act gracefully....with no self-doubt.
The burden of higher cognition erased with regression to the manimal state.
An animal is not burdened with self-doubt, with questions of moral and idealistic skepticism. Its reasoning is simplified/generalized to its lowest-common-denominator and it is resolved in consequences.
All adjustments occur after-the-fact.
What philosophers try to avoid.
Awareness is inhibiting to actions. Too many variables, too many possibilities, probabilities that fail to be complete, perfect...all conflict with application.
The courage of absorbing error it decisive.
The mind cultivates its constitution by inflating itself, or by medicating itself.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism Wed Sep 26, 2018 12:04 pm

Nihilism allows the infantile mind to fantasize about the 'negative' in a manner that is 'positive' for its well-being.
A child imagines war, like a gem, full of heroic deeds and exciting action, resulting in its indubitable victory, and a manchild imagines the Dionysian in a way that gratifies some unrequited desire.
Chaos is, for the adolescent, a imagined place full of opportunities, resulting it his/her ascent and glorification.

The costs, the price, is never an issue.
Schopenhauer's words come to mind...
Scopenhaur, Arthur wrote:
Those who have spent their lives reading and have drawn their wisdom from books resemble men who have acquired precise information about a country from many descriptions of travel. They are able to give much information about things, but at bottom they have really no coherent, clear, and thorough knowledge of the nature of the country.
The country they visit acquires a mystical, magical idealism, full of splendour and gifts, but no negatives, no defeats and shame and disappointment.
Like those who idolize the Greeks, or icons, and idols. They know of what they cannot understand....like a tourist who visits and is taken by the beauty and novelty, but has not lived there, and cannot know anything of what underlies it all.
Romantic idealism selects the 'positive' to hyper-inflate, making whatever negatives seep through, insignificant by comparison.
Like a lover taken over by his passion cannot see his lover for what she is, but only when the spell is broken, in time, does he suddenly see her, and cannot endure her, when it contrasts to his earlier vision.

When we visit a foreign land, we are overwhelmed by the novelty, and cannot fully comprehend the spirit of the people. We cannot relate to the historical events that produced them, and their culture, but can only appreciate the end result....the image.
He cannot appreciate the costs, the negatives, underlying the delicacies we choose to partake in, before e depart, left with a vague memory that is always positive, like most memories are.
Who can know what it truly means to be Greek, when he only visits and reads, an idealized and selective conception of it?
All the negatives are swept out of mind, or spun and excused....justified within the 'positive'.
they think they know what it means to be an Athenian, or a Spartan, because they've visited for a few weeks: drinking their wine, eating their food, enjoying their sun, walking through their temples and homes.

Unable to empathize they sympathize and are convinced they've tapped into the spirit of the people that produced Socrates and Heraclitus, or upon visiting Beunos Aires, and having learned Spanish and how to dance the tango that they've become Argentinians.
How many ambitious artists, with no talent, or philosophers with no honesty, have attempted to tap into genius by imitating style, speaking the words, and repeating them, focusing no the positives, the benefits, unable to be, because they cannot tap into the negatives, the price.
There's no choice in the matter...no visit that will eventually return with mementos.


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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism Thu Sep 27, 2018 6:32 am

Sameness/Difference
Through the evolution of the simple perception of similarity/difference, organic life builds its awareness. From this simple binary method the complexity of organic perceptions develop. Similarity/Difference based no juxtaposition – comparison being the foundation of judgment and of evaluating.
Similar/Same, indicates inclusion in a category; difference/not-same indicates an exclusion from a category. Perceptions are not accidental, nor are they arbitrary.
The organism does not decide to perceive similarity and differences. They say something about the essence of the perceived other. An organism does not require a microbiological study, a convincing philosophical argument, or an expert to tell it that what it perceives as different is so for a reason, and is not meaningless. It need not know what the reason for the divergence is, only that this divergence indicates a greater divergence in behaviour, in how it relates to its well-being; how it indicates a predictable outcome, or a difference in possible, potential, future outcomes. Through trial and error, stored as memories: genetic and experienced knowledge/understanding, the organism learns how to associate particular differences in particular synthesis with similarities and other differences, with specific potentials, and how it all relates to its own well-being.
Only the sick ape, the neurotic homo sapient, sheltered and protected from its own errors in judgment, can perceive difference and presume an underlying, secret, occult, sameness. Directed by an ideological imperative that cannot accept difference, in certain contexts, the neurotic primate can project the implications of such a difference and feel anxious and afraid of what these indicate, choosing the method of doubting its own senses, rather than confront these implications, as a way of dealing with them by ignoring them. Only the sick ape, the neurotic homo sapient, can choose to protect itself from the implications by doubting or totally dismissing its own senses; deluding itself by declaring its own perceptions delusional.
The root cause is self-consciousness, and the neurosis it produces. A neurosis that may eventually splinter the psyche, dividing it against itself, placing perception against desire, the real against the ideal, the body against the mind, the meme against its own genes. A neurosis that becomes an ideological, and philosophical contraption, called ‘Nihilism’, being used to defend the mind from itself, and form its own perceptions. Neurosis that develops into a mental virus, transmittable, as a method of coping, using semiotics, from mind to mind. A virus used to placate the masses and to render them helpless, blind, docile, and malleable – a political tool.
A virus that can become a part of a symbiont, a parasitical unity that uses it to exploit it in others, and to mask itself, evading detection – part of tis parasitical survival strategy.
Imagine how much more malleable a mind is when it has lost confidence in its own base awareness, lost trust in its own perceptions; when it has become less than an animal, unable to apply a simple method, evolved over thousands of years of natural selection, preferring to flee inward, into the noetic, to find comfort, playing mind games, word-games, to evade what confronts it.
A weakness a parasite can evolve to exploit, and one a gifted leader can learn to manipulate.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:04 pm

The absence of absolutes, in the either/or dichotomy of nihilism, the infected tend to insist that this means that all is subjective...when they want to say that all "ought to be subjective", and each mind can invent his own moral code, or truth, or god, or ideal.

But the world imposes a limit to what man can fantasize.

The dilemma of God, omniscience/omnipotence, imposing a totalitarian rule, and nothingness where anything goes, is rectified by the process of natural selection - if and only if error, stupidity, idiocy, is not protected from itself, so as to be manipulated and exploited by those who know better.
The idea that all is ordered, or that there's a creator will, underlies the nihilistic psychosis.
Even those who claim to be atheists, insist that with no god, the only objective truth is if one were proven.....given a new name, called Oder, that hides in everything.
A case of renaming the same concept to erase some of the embarrassing anthropomorphism...like renaming Santa Claus a divine, benevolent spirit that visits the household, once a year to cleanse it of its accumulated sins...or renaming him karma, to eliminate all anthropomorphism by using obscurity that can be defined in any way the mind desires.


But, there is a right and a wrong choice, act, option....and it is proven by the outcome, as cost/benefit.
The error in judgment cannot escape, but only be protected, by a mitigating entity...a parent, a State, an institution, that absorbs the worse and allows the delusion of parity and of subjectivity to remain as naïve and obtuse as is necessary to make it malleable....controllable....pliable to impressions, to fear, the slightest injection of anxiety, uncertainty....by using insinuations, exploiting unquenchable desired, unadmitted needs...using the power of suggestion to direct with subtlety.
There is a right/wrong answer, but not an absolute one...because all is fluid and chaos is still present.
A more correct option, given the circumstances...if one reads them properly, if one estimates, interprets them with precision, and understands the relationships, the meanings, with approximate accuracy.
There is one because good/bad is not a human invention, called God, or anything else. There's natural order, to whatever degree it exists, imposing itself upon human will.
An order-ing, to be precise....which is totalitarian, brutal, unforgiving....indifferent....because it is unconscious. It does not will anything, because it cares not, it needs not, it desires not.
A product of patterns interacting, and arranging themselves, and then rearranging themselves....and on and on.
Only life cares, desires, needs, and wills. Only life suffers, because only life needs.
It wills what it has not, or not enough of. It wills to ensure and to increase, and to fulfill what is missing.

The 'absolute' is how it feels the absence of indivisibility, immutability, certainty, immortality...wholeness...the absence of a oneness it strives for, struggles towards, but can never attain, not absolutely, not finally, but can only approach.
The falling away, is 'throwness'. Finding yourself awakening to a momentum a movement producing attrition, causing the loss of energies, felt as need/suffering; awakening to en-ergy, at work, a towards finality, a conclusion, a telos, that never comes, but only falls apart.
To remain strong, in this awareness, is the mark of a warrion...to fight, for the sake of fighting; to fight for what you care for; to fight and pass on the fighting spirit...one and on.


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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:16 pm

It is clear....man's delusions, his hopes, his dreams....his confusion, is a product of misapplied language.
He fails to define words, symbols, properly.
Sometimes intentionally, sometimes because he is too infantile to understand what language is, and what words do, or are.

When it is intentional he uses his pretentious misapplication to evade what he fears is true.
So, if he fears or dislikes what he knows is self, he will define the words in a way that would make it impossible to find, obscure, mystical....and he will live out a lifetime searching for what does not exist as he's defined it.
If he does not want to know what the word 'god' refers to, or what purpose it serves, he will do the same.
If he is afraid of what the word 'morality' refers to he will define and describe it in a way that will be evasive, unclear, uncertain....or he will demand absolute evidence to avoid a higher, superior, probability.
There is no end to how semiotics can be useful when the organism wishes to protect itself from a world he does not like, or a self he does not like or secretly believes is inadequate, or inferior.

Awakening to self is where nihilism begins. It is the noetic cancer cell, that may lie dormant, or be triggered by a circumstance...into a full blown psychosis...a dis-ease.
This vulnerability is what makes nihilism malleable to political, and marketing, methodologies - it is what the parasite exploits to hide within the infected host, and use it as a proxy.
I've already explained what my positions are on why nihilism must lie, or be self-contradictory, or use a proxy, a sheltering other, to not face a reality it denies, or knows it is unable to survive.

Nihilism is noetic....expressed in semiotics....revealing itself to those who speak the same language, or interpret it in the same ways. It exposes its attitude, tis relationship with an indifferent, uncertain, fluctuating world. It is the brain's defensive measures, seeking validation in others of tis won kind, because it has no way to validate itself with reality, or is afraid to try.
When the real seeps through the defensiveness it explains the contradictions it exposes it to, by blaming other....never itself. It is always the other that's at fault. it's always some willful other doing this, producing this threatening contradiction to its ideal.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism Fri Oct 05, 2018 8:55 pm

A nihilist makes use of the only thing in his possession, the nil, the absence.
He weaponizes the negative and converts it into a tool for beginning to construct the positive.
The nil is both enough reason to validate his preferred ideology, and enough reason to dismiss anything that threatens his preferred ideology. No absolute complete power and knowledge, the absence of absolutes, is good enough for him to justify any belief, or to dismiss any belief on the slightest hint of imperfection and incompleteness. This represents the immeasurable power of the 'nil'. Using it one can base an entire theory with no evidence or reasoning at all, or one can destroy and reject a theory at the smallest sign of incompleteness, of a negative: psychological defensive armouring. All you need to do is find a flaw, perceive a absence, a negative, and then you can use it to construct any fantasy or destroy any theory.  No omniscience, for him, means anything and everything is equally possible; no omnipotence means, everyone has the same right to believe in anything that suits its fancy. The negative is his new God, his new absolute. Abrahamism's one-God inverted: the other side of the same coin. If not omniscient, then omni-ignorant... if not omnipotent, then omni-feeble. If not all is ONE, and the same, then all is Nil, and the same. Sameness is the ideal that must be preserved. If all cannot be saved, then all must perish. If all cannot win, then all must lose.  
His ideal is subjectivity – the parity of all and any perspective, unless it threatens or contradicts this premise. Entirely linguistic based, as are all nihilistic variants, it has nothing to show but plenty to say. In fact words are its tools and its toys. It cannibalizes all, including itself, reducing all to the divine nil, where all finds parity in uniform nothingness. Language is slandered and degraded, so that it can only be used to cynically laugh at everything, to ridicule it and itself. The plastic toy is the strongest tool of all, discrediting, with its plasticity, all hardness, all stringency. This is the other side of Abrahamism... and its by-product Marxism. It is post-modernity run amok; zero logic pushed to its extreme.
In Modern bi-polar dualism, this is the opposite end of the schizophrenic psychosis: not narcissistic, suffering from a Messianic complex, but cynicism, suffering from the Peter Pan complex. A product of disillusionment with its bipolar opposite, the absolute one, the whole, the one God. The end point of a defeated psyche, seeking retribution and salvation in absolute negation. It hides in its own infantile ‘innocence’, so as to deny ignorance as its weakness.  
The nil is the empty space/time available to project his/her abstractions, his positive fabrications - to fill, to full-fill, what is empty, what is missing.
The addiction is that of a child for its missing parent. Wailing for decades did not bring the parent in its presence, so now it rejects the parent altogether, and decides that salvation can be found in slumber, in eternal sleep – to dream whatever it wishes, to dream the absent parent as being present, or anything and anyone
Along with this nil he preserves social sheltering, to protect himself from the consequences of this form of denial and delusion. A sleeper requires a safe space to sleep in, and remain unharmed. A feminine obsession with social stability, communal rule, to preserve him/her in his introverted escape, in his esoteric void, his dreamland. He intuitively suspects that he is deluding himself with yet a new absolute, and dares not risk it. A stable, protective, social system, will offer him the environment to remain lost in his own untested internal abstractions, his internal emptiness. His previous disillusionment with the 'absolute one' has exposed him to the possibility of his own inferiority, his own feebleness. All he wishes for, now, is to pull the world down with him, into his dream, into slumber, so that his own lifelong mistakes and weaknesses will not be so glaringly obvious. He wants to save what remains of his pride.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism Sat Oct 06, 2018 6:22 am

Meditations on Nihilism, continued...
I've traced the root cause of Nihilism to the emergence of self-awareness, and I've argued that the Biblical allegory of Adam and Eve refers to this self-awakening.
What does self-awareness lead to? To shame. Adam and Eve begin to evaluate self in relation to other, by sympathizing/empathizing. This 'shame' refers to their insecurity, loss of peace. It leads to the loss of 'paradise'; loss of their animalistic well-being, their innocent ignorance.
This is what animals lack and so they cannot feel shame or embarrassment - low self-esteem.
The loss is defined in this Nihilistic spirituality as a 'falling', when in fact it is an ascent, a rising - with great benefits come great worries....with great power comes great responsibility, with greater awareness comes greater suffering. So, one gains awareness but loses 'ignorant bliss', loses self-confidence, forcing one to rebuild it.
But what does nihilism prescribe as a solution?
Not to fight, and struggle to ascend, to build, but to flee, to hide, using language, using words.
When nihilism destroys or discredits language it is attempting to run from reality; when it misuses language it is hiding from world. It is trying to cut its connections to the world.
We've noted that language is the nervous system connecting mind with body, or the abstraction with the experienced world, the ideal with the real. Misusing language, or dismissing it altogether, is a form of fleeing inward by severing the connections to the outside world.
Nihilists always flees. They do not fight to save their tribe, their nation, their family....they do not struggle to raise them from where they have fallen, but they abandon them, so as to escape into the world and reinvent themselves by forgetting their shameful, and/or imperfect past.
We see this in the r/type survival strategy. A disloyalty to your own kind, a seeking refuge, a new identity in otherness, in the stranger, the alien; a turning your back to your own blood, so that you can forget and find yourself a new identity, out there among others.
But genes cannot be escaped, only denied, and forgotten - covered, concealed.
Nihilism offers the meme of concealment, of fleeing. The negative destroying all past, all memory of the real, so as to find salvation and solace in the ideal: meme disconnected from genes.
Nihilism uses the nil, as I've stated, to base any absurdity upon it, on the grounds that no absolute knowledge and certainty is possible, and to dismiss any and all theories which make it feel shame, or bad, on the grounds, again, that because absolute certainty and absolute evidence is absent, therefore all theories can be dismissed using this linguistic technique as being equally imperfect, or uncertain, or incomplete.
The nil has a double utility: it can justify anything and everything, and it can dismiss and deny, anything and everything.
The absence of an absolute is the fissure within which it builds its linguistic impressive castles, and its where it tunnels into to build its subconscious/subterranean escape routes.
It can leave, run away, reinvent himself/herself, when his family or nation or tribe embarrasses him, or makes him feel ashamed....when, like Adam and Eve, he awakens to the 'truth' about it all, and how it all relates and compares - value judgement are the product of a juxtaposition.
We can witness this psychological fleeing in post-modernism, and how the shame for its own kind leads to self-hatred directed outward.
The post-Modern hates what he/she is, and he unloads this 'negative' emotion upon other, preserving the pristine purity of the innocent. The other becomes a representation of his hated self, his hated past, his hated family, tribe etc.
The father, as the conduit to this past, becomes a symbol of this self-hatred. He hates his own kind, via the father, who is the representative of this inheritance.
Post-Moderns always flee into the alien, so as to forget about themselves within strangeness, within novelty, the forever different. The more alien, strange these others are, the better for forgetting.....nothing to remind them of what they want to forget.
Greeks flees into Judaism and the Jew into Hellenism, to find peace....to forget their own kind and who they are. The contradiction severs the memory, in their mind - it disconnects them, alienates them form their own blood, from themselves.
What does a Nihilist use to disconnect from his shameful past, from the source of his embarrassment? Inversion. Noetic overturning. but redefining words the connection is cut; by making language nonsensical, meaningless, it disarms it.
The stronger the inversion this otherness provides the better he/she forgets himself within it.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism Sat Oct 06, 2018 4:43 pm

Nihilism is identified as the by-product the defensive reaction to an emerging conciousness of self, exposing the individual to himself in relation to others, producing some level of insecurity, vulnerability.
We've identified language, symbols, as the only way Nihilism can exist outside the mind, since it is entirely a psychological phenomenon, and like all abstractions that refer to nothing outside the mind, the organism, it can only be externalized via a medium. This is called art, but there are two forms of art, the realistic kind that externalizes an interpretation of reality, the externalization of the noumena constructed using external stimuli, via a medium such as atmosphere of light, and the kind of art that externalizes the creator's, the artist's reaction to the external world. Nihilism belongs to the second category. this is why Modern fART is always nonsensical, surreal, abstract, representing there artist's reaction of reality, and not depicting reality itself.  

An example of this is the externalization of man's reaction to the absence of absolutes, depicted as an externalization of symbols representing what is absent...for example the word 'absolute' defined as what is indivisible, complete, whole, immutable.
Nihilism is this reaction to this absence.

We can note here that the 'parasite' has taken this natural by-product of an emerging self-consciousness and has embraced it, integrated it into a new identity.
What all other tribes, peoples, have rejected they have accepted....they are 'chosen', by this absence to suffer on its behalf. This is the only tribe that has done this. The integration of the 'virus' the anxiety, insecurity, results in a redefinition of everything...an inversion. The sick must now redefine health to justify their acceptance of the virus, and the sacrifice of their past to its potentials.
A symbiont is born. The parasite is born when the virus is not rejected but accepted as part of a new symbiosis - until then the parasite was like any other host infected and dealing with its awakening to its condition. When the synthesis is accepted the symbiont must redefine all, and replace phenomena, the real, with pure noetic constructs, with ideas. All becomes ideology, including the self, humanity, morality, god etc.
Natural order, natural hierarchies are inverted. What is 'healthy' is 'ill' and what is 'ill' is now the new inverted version of 'health'; what is strong is now weak, and the weak the new strong...and so on. All of it remains linguistic.
We can appreciate how this can be seductive in a world where populating are increasing and producing individuals who are feeling insecure, are awakening to their social status, and their genetic status.
An idea so powerful as to inspire the multitudes of slaves, the outcasts, the downtrodden, the sick and desperate....An idea that has to be restricted so as to preserve its elitist effect.
The restriction leads to hatred towards the parasite that has weaponized, converted to a method of exploitation and manipulation of the virus. A resentment that is corrected by Christianity and then Islam.

What is manipulate and exploited is this nihilistic virus emerging in all self-conscious organisms - existential anxiety.
Money is but another language - a representation of an idea. When it is detached from the God Standard it becomes pure noumenon.
All else follows from the exploitation and manipulation of the symbols relating to this anxiety.
Money, for example deals with it by 'correcting' or compensating for genetic inferiority...for an impoverished genetic inheritance. With money it does not matter how tall, short, fat, thin, smart, stupid, beautiful or ugly you are. All past is 'erased', at least in theory...noetically, ideally.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism Sat Oct 06, 2018 6:24 pm

It is about the corruption of Hellenic Logos.
ΛΟΓΩΣ = speech, reason, cause....

Nihilism uses it as symbol, word, no longer a conduit, a representation, a proxy, but an end in itself.
Logos = God...the absolute. For them the symbol/word representing the idea/ideal is the end itself, it is the idea that usurps the real, the noumenon that replaces the phenomenon.
This overturning of the sequence, from world towards mind, via the nervous system and the construction of the idea.....the inversion makes the idea, project itself, via the nervous system into the world as the more real 'real'.
A 'real' that cannot be experienced nor proven, so it has to be believed in and placed in some noetic space/time called 'beyond' or 'beneath' or 'underneath' or 'future'.

The mnid's ability to synthesize abstractions, at will, unhindered by natural order, makes the noumenon a divine power, saving the organism from an unconscious, indifferent, world.
The 'parasite' saw the potential, and was unashamed, lacked shamed, it was shameless, because it placed survival above integrity.....all sacrificed in the name of survival.
In logos, God, it saw salvation....a tool and a weapon to manipulate and to exploit other tribes, through their weakest points: their children, women, and their ill, their ignoble, their desperate, their cowardly.....

The parasite reinvented itself, from lowly slavish victim, to manipulative scavenger, feeding no cadavers and the sickly.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism Sat Oct 06, 2018 7:19 pm

When there exists 'holy words', so do all words lose any non-moral interpretations. All is good/evil, dichotomy.
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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:42 am

The allegory of Adam and Eve can serve us to understand the root of the weakness Nihilism exploits or comes to 'correct' or 'deal with'.

When Adam and Eve ate from the tree of knowledge why did they suddenly feel ashamed of being naked in each other's presence?
There was no Nihilistic moral dogma to have taught them from an earlier age to consider sex shameful and the human body shameful...that comes later. We're talking of the primordial couple.
When man and woman have shared one another's bodies sexually they do not feel ashamed, embarrassed to be naked before them. It actually feels good to be naked before your lover.
So what does this 'shame' indicate?
It is, like the entire Biblical tale, allegory, metaphor.
Eating of the tree produces an explosion of awareness, and self-awareness.
Self-consciousness is the juxtaposition of self and other....making a comparison possible.

The allegory indicates how self-awareness produces insecurity, because man can now compare self to other and see how he is not the strongest, the fastest, the most symmetrical (beautiful) the biggest and so on.
Self-awareness manifests as vulnerability, insecurity.
This is the source of what later developed into Nihilism. This is the weakness where the virus takes root and what the parasite exploits and manipulates.

When man felt so vulnerable, not the best, not immortal, not the brightest....he later discovered that words could be used to make his vulnerability into an opposite .
By altering the meaning of words, by inverting their meaning, his weakness could be defined as strength, his ignorance redefined as gnosis, his stupidity redefined as genius, his ugliness redefined as beauty.
He could do this by manipulating the symbols and their definition, by first detaching them form natural order, which limited how words could be defined.
He could invert meanings, in his head.
The mutable, divisible experienced world could be redefined as immutable indivisible, inventing the concept of absolute.
Man't mortality could be inverted to immortality...and so on. He could do this with any word that referred to a concept that made him feel insecure and vulnerable....naked before existence, before himself essentially.
This noetic inversion is the very essence of Nihilism....of this memetic virus. It is, for man, a ground-breaking, revolutionary concept...it is a revolution against nature, against natural order, against reality.
The power of symbols/words was realized in Nihilism....the power to self-deceive and to deceive others...to then manipulate them, and exploit this emerging insecurity.
Inverting symbols, by detaching them from their role of connecting mind to world, noumenon to phenomenon, enables the mind to then 'liberate' the meanings of the word and redefine them, obscure them, and even invert them.
This is the foundation of Nihilism as a memetic virus, and it also explains the methodology of the parasite that evolved to exploit this.

This detachment is a form of sanctification, of making the words into pure noetic symbols, entirely rooted in mind and referring to nothing outside mind that would hinder them, or restrict them in any way. the symbols become magical in their psychological applications.
Imagine how a symbol/word appears to a mind feeling insecure and vulnerable before existence, before its won existence. How this noetic detachment would imbue the symbol/word with godly powers, as if by simply manipulating ho it is applied and defined man could change his existence, the entire cosmos and his place within it.


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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism Sun Oct 07, 2018 6:27 am

Consider what a powerful idea this is. The idea that a man can invert reality, turn the world on its head, convert the slave into master, his mortality into immortality, his uncertainty into conviction, his weakness into strength, his ignorance into knowledge.
Then it becomes a matter of justifying his self-deceit by using obscurantism, the vagueness of terms, the absence of absolutes to validate the absurd, that which lacks all evidence and reason.
The absence of omnipotence and omnipotence can now become an argument for any possibility, altering the criteria from empiricism to emotion.
A form of madness.

The inverted definition of words can use vagueness to allow the other to project into this absence his/her won psychosis, his/her own needs desires.
Obscurity, reducing clarity, detaching the definition from the experienced, makes the symbol/word a means of finding salvation in your own madness, power in your own impotence, genius in your own idiocy.
Obscurity, the absence of clarity, the shadows where little light shines through, is the environment where anything goes.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:30 am

Having diagnosed and analysed the dsi-ease we can now see how and why it emerges and how and why it can be used as a defensive tool.
We've taken Nietzsche's diagnosis using one variant, Christianity, and traced its lineage using its mememtic DNA, its linguistic inheritance.
We now know that Nihilism emerges to protect the organism from its naturally evolving self-awareness, exposing it to perceptions that make it feel vulnerable. All knowledge and understanding increases suffering because it expands awareness of space/time, or of possibilities and probabilities.
This sense of vulnerability is what produces the defensive reaction of Nihilism - the brain fabricating abstractions to protect itself from an indifferent and threatening cosmos; the mind fabricating absolutes, ideas/ideals, to cope with a cosmos that lacks what man needs.
We know this can only remain mental defensive measure expressed using semiotics, language, words and numbers - their redefinition or taking them literally and not as representational.
Nihilism is an ideology unlike any other, because it strives to disconnect from reality as a method of coping with it. It relies on obscurity, or linguistic vagueness, claiming 'deeper' esoteric meanings, to compensate for the exoteric meaninglessness. It is entirely ideological and so can only apply in human psychology, and all its by-products, such as marketing, politics etc.
It redefines language, reinterprets symbols, by first detaching them from their original references: a world that directs and limits symbolic applications and definitions. This is seductive, attractive, to a desperate mind seeking for a way to deal with its increasing self-awareness and how it compares to others. It attracts the ill, the desperate, the lost, and all those who suffer from this insecurity and sense of vulnerability self-awareness produces.    
We now know that nihilism begins as a form of self-deception, erroneously interpreting its own representations as more 'real' than the represented - noumenon replacing phenomenon as the standard, forcing world to adapt to ideology, rather than ideology to world; forcing the real to adjust to conform, to the ideal, and not the ideal to the real.
We now know that Nihilism survives, thrives in items of chaos, and it thrives in darkness, when light is minimal and all shadows merge, though it may profess the opposite as part of its self-deception, expressed as deceptiveness. It can only validate itself in obscurity, in vagueness, where there is no clarity, and so the negative is where it seeks justification = absence of certainty is where it inserts itself.  
The negative, the nil, is its God, though it may claim the 'one' as its antipode, its 'positive' mask.
In the absence of absolutes, it claims that its own absurdities are just as probable as any other hypothesis,. or by using the absence of absolute certainty, it can dismiss any hypothesis that threatens or hurts it.

We can also understand how this psychology can produce the parasitical evolution of exploiting this vulnerability. By embracing the dis-ease, the shame, and inverting it to pride, to 'health' the symbiont parasite can exploit it in others. Occultism, Messianic complex, Freudian Oedipal Complex, and a variety of human psychological reactions and collateral effects, can be manipulated and exploited by using Nihilism as a weapon/tool. Feeding into the target host's vulnerability, its increasing insecurity, and selling it 'feel-good'; ideologies that refer to nothing outside the mind, the parasite can manipulate the virus in any host.
Philosophies can be manufactured based on this manipulation and its presumptions, its emotional needs, its desires, hopes. Unable to cope with its increasing self-awareness, the mind becomes desperate for any escape, any salvation dogma/philosophy...any ideology offering a negation of everything it perceives as indifferent, uncertain and a source of anxiety.  
We can now understand why Nihilism is populist and popular....and it often takes on the form of a 'positive' negation, which is what form Christianity took.
By inverting reality, linguistically, semiotically, noetically, it remains dependent on others, and is entirely irrational - it cannot be reasoned with.  
Its femininity is found in this social dependence, requiring a proxy to insert itself in because it cannot cope with reality in any other way. That's not to say that only females can be infected, but only that the feminine spirit in all humans is its way into the mind.
It develops by converting all into feminine spirits, suing feminine ways....language is, in fact, what females are gifted at manipulating and using, for the already known reproductive reasons.
Nihilism and Feminization are synonymous.
We can now identify the memetic virus in all its variants...from Christianity onward, and backward, finding its roots and its modern variants.

Having done all that we can now proceed to find ways to intervene and to prevent infection. The best medicine is preventative.
We prevent viral infections by habituating the body with an innocuous form of the dis-ease....training our autoimmune system to recognize the virus, even when ti pretends to be part of the body, masking itself as belonging to the host it infects, and training the immune system to fight the virus on its own terms.
Therefore, preventative measures will be linguistic, because we know the memetic virus in question, exists and spreads using semiotics.
We must practice linguistic hygiene, and regimented linguistic fitness. In other terms, we must cleanse our language of the dis-ease and its residue, by going back to the source, back to the point before the infection took hold...and like our doctor often advises we must exercise our body and, in this context, our mind, our language....we must become literate, able to exercise our linguistic talents...and diet is also important...what we put into our body is as important as what we put into our brains, in the form of ideas and ideals.
How do we recognize what is good for us?
By the performance it results in.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:11 am

What do we say about keeping the body healthy?
Exercise, eat right, hygiene....
Same thing applies to the mind.

Proper Diet: Think right means putting into the mind nutritional thoughts, organic eating and organic thinking.
Organic means not manufactured, with minimal human interventions, like pesticides... it means from the earth directly.
We must base our language upon the earth, from the Bottom<>Up, from a grounding.
Go back to the source, to when language was not as infected by Nihilism, as it is today.
Clean nutrients, clean language. Doric. Spartan...ΛΑΚΟΝΙΖΕΙΝ ΕΣΤΙ ΦΙΛΟΣΟΦΕΙΝ (Lakonizein esti philosophein)
Direct, obvious, free from fatty residue and additional unnecessary ingredients.
Once in a while indulge in fast-food crap: chips, hamburgers fries...but mostly consume nutritional thoughts, organic thoughts. Directly from the earth...unprocessed. Nihilism is language processing.
White sugars, white flours, preservatives, artificial colouration etc. are not good for you.

Exercise: train yourselves, your mind, in linguistics.
Understand what language is, and then learn languages, become talented in its use....literate.

Hygiene: clean your mind from the virus by cleaning your language use.
Cleanse your mind daily.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:45 am

ΛΑΚΟΝΙΖΕΙΝ ΕΣΤΙ ΦΙΛΟΣΟΦΕΙΝ: What does Lakonizein mean, in the context of Nihilism and philosophy, at large? It means to not use superfluous language. It does not mean to be curt, and trite, but to be masculine, and not feminine, with your use of language. To say many things using the fewest words possible.
It means to be literal, direct, and obvious – it means to be clear, not obscure.
Doric, not Ionian.
In essence it means to be anti-nihilistic.
Doric laconic use of language is the opposite of obscurantism and Ionian artsy-farty insinuating use of ambiguities. It is clear, precise, and direct.
There is no 'noble lie' no esoteric double-meaning, nothing hidden, occult, secretive, using innuendoes to mask ignorance and/or intent.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism Mon Oct 08, 2018 5:49 am

There is a danger, a risk, in laconic philosophy, just as there is power, a leanness of strength. Nietzsche must have adopted the aphoristic style in an effort to discipline himself by the Doric spirit.
The power and the risk is found in the richness/poverty of the language you are using, and the user's talent with it. Like there is a risk in exercising your battle skills with a sharp sword instead of a dull wooden one.
Greek is rich, it has over 7,000,000 verbs, and its richness is in variations these verbs produce, each with its specific nuanced meaning. Other languages are not as rich, so they must compensate by using the artful method of innuendo, metaphor, allegories. This is certainly so for English. Nietzsche being translated to English made him the idol of every post-modern man-child the world over – each reading into his curt aphorisms, and his metaphor rick text, their own psychosis.
Vagueness can include just as it attempts to exclude, just as art depends not only on the artist's talent and genius but on the observer's intent and sophistication.
Doric language left nothing to the imagination. It was direct and obvious, unlike the Ionian style. This prevented any misinterpretation. It was exclusionary.
Modern use of language, of art, is always inclusive, accepting any interpretation and misinterpretation as equally viable. The artist no longer has to possess talent nor masculine genius, but only the feminine genius of implying what he/she may be clueless about, using allegory to pretend to be saying something profound when nothing specific, nothing clear and obvious, is directing the mind. This style is forgiving, altruistic, because any reading is the 'correct one' so nobody can ever be wrong, but only find a new angle to the 'complexity'. The use of darkness, of the nil, to hide nonsense in a sea of implied intricacies. ‘Complexity’ means hidden order – the god in the machine.
Moderns have degraded further. They no longer just believe in a pre-existing hidden secret order (Abrahamism), but in any order they project into the nonsense is equally valid (post-modernity). The artist/speaker does not require talent, genius, or even sense. He only needs good marketing, and social skills, to sell his nonsense as works hiding the secrets, the meanings, each individual projects into them. It turns-away nobody, because it is not restrictive in its meanings, but all-inclusive in tis meaninglessness. There is no wrong understanding, other than its dismissal and rejection as nonsense, because there is no intent other than all-inclusion, mass-participation, populism and popularity. The intent is that of being as popular to as many as possible. Obscurity is used not to hide meaning, nor to exclude, but as an openness to anything and everything. This sounds like the Ionian spirit that eventually gave us Democracy. A double-edged toy/tool: one edge metallic, sharp, the other wooden, dull – a feminine spirit contrasting with the Doric masculine spirit.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism Mon Oct 08, 2018 6:13 am

When you speak a dumbed down and unsophisticated language, there is no wonder that you would so often believe yourself intelligent from being so often "misunderstood", especially if you are really a blockheaded dolt that refuses to participate in or is unable to recognize the social adaptation of innuendo. This is the case with those dry, merciless but fully ideologically entrapped 'scientific' souls who take on a system's bigotry with little second thought so as to concern themselves with what's essentially a hobby-as-profession. (In reference to a conceptual 'scientist' I encountered first with Nietzsche.)
As for apparent German pedantism, or other such interactions, it is because of the richness of their language and their misunderstanding of American English at times which results in confusion. If you must express a concept by innuendo what they already have a word for, then it is ridiculous to them that you wouldn't use their already established symbol/word for that concept.
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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism Mon Oct 08, 2018 6:22 am

Only German comes close to the richness of Greek. I can only explain the explosion of German philosophy as the product of language and how this affects human thinking.
Rich language enriches thinking....makes it adept at expressing subtlety, with clarity.
Impoverished language leads to an impoverished spirit.
Language is of the nervous system, connecting mind with body, the idea(l) with the real...noumenon with phenomena...so language is how the individual relates to world. It exposes a relationship of subject with object, the interpretor with the interpreted.

It's why I say how you understand and you apply language exposes the true quality of your mind.
Even while many attempt to appear genius their language speaks of a dullness.

Impoverished languages, or those not with the history nor the vocabulary of Greek, or even Latin.... by trying to compensate they resort to referencing Greek/Latin, because both have been partially assimilated into many other languages, but the most common compensation is that of metaphor, innuendo, allegory.
The allusion to a occult secret meaning, to explain the nonsensical obscurantism is similar to how a talent-less fArtist can place a dot on a blank canvas and then dare you to discredit it, or to not 'see' the deep meanings in his fArt.

The gifted liar, for example, will not simply lie, and try to convince you that it is truth, but he will expose himself as a lair, implying that he knows the truth he is concealing, or corrupting.
In the first case the lair must have an inkling of what is the truth he is concealing or warping....in the second he does not even need that....he can be just as clueless as the one he is trying to seduce, and manipulate using linguistic trickery.
All he wants is to involve all into seeking the 'truth' he is supposedly hiding or corrupting....he is making himself the point of interest. He does not need to know any truth, but only convince others, as many other as possible, that he does. Any interpretation suffices, if it leaves an opening for more.
There is no 'wrong' answer, other than his dismissal as a trickster and liar. All 'positive' interpretation must be 'right' in some way....so nobody is turned away, or excluded. Every interpretation is true, or holds a piece of it, because the audience is projecting in the nonsense their won versions, their own desires and needs...so each has to remain engaged....seeking, looking, trying to uncover more and more.
It's a mind-game using language or semiotics.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism Mon Oct 08, 2018 6:51 am

The battle is up-hill for the West in this regard. America is the superpower controlled by elementary tier intellects, which are then manipulated even further on top of that with techniques mentioned. It seems by getting a person heavily invested in as vague a word or concept as possible, provides the most opportunity for exploitation and manipulation. "Love" is an example, or "racism". The redfinition of the word "racist" recently is just a progression of attempted psychological tyranny. The degradation of language isn't without purpose, as in a vacuum you will actually find linguistic and educational enrichment/fulfilment of potentials. This vacuum of agendas, or absence of hostile (or specifically: enfeebling) agendas, happens naturally in an identitarian community. However, at the same time, the cost of such 'positive' interaction is a possibly geopolitically naive community. Every hostile force, if not obvious, will emphasize the benefits of their "enriching" your community by subjecting it to adversity, and accuse you of weakness if you refuse - knowing your limits. (Tolerance trolling.)


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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism Mon Oct 08, 2018 6:55 am

Feminization implies the use of language not to clarify but to selectively accentuate and selectively conceal, to produce a flattering effect that can seduce and manipulate.
In twilight, among the shadows, the real is reshaped by the play of light and darkness. obscurity allows the imagination to take over and to forgive weaknesses or brutalize them by inflating/deflating at will.
The light, Apollo, leaves little to the imagination...all is more clear, distinct. It is revealed, unconcealed.
It leaves little space for lies, both noble and ignoble, and pretences.

Feminized times produce feminine fArt, feminine philosophy....politics the art of manipulation, seduction, using innuendoes, metaphors, semiotics.
Hyper-Masculinity is a reaction to feminization...also called the 'masculinization of women'.
Nature hates voids....as masculinity declines females enter to fill the void.....exaggeration abounds, when one has no real experience with masculinity. The impoverished spirit compensates by exaggerating, inflating what he can understand, and with no real experience, and without embodying masculinity, he can only fake it, pretend, caricature it.
See Negro cRAP.
The war against European males is leaving space, a gap, a void, to be filled by slaves who can now pretend to be masters, emasculated males who can now imitate their understanding of what it means to be a man.
The product is gaudy, hyperbolic, because inexperience leaves much to the imagination.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism Mon Oct 08, 2018 7:02 am

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The battle is up-hill for the West in this regard. America is the superpower controlled by elementary tier intellects, which are then manipulated even further on top of that with techniques mentioned. It seems by getting a person heavily invested in as vague a word or concept as possible, provides the most opportunity for exploitation and manipulation. "Love" is an example, or "racism". The redfinition of the word "racist" recently is just a progression of attempted psychological tyranny. The degradation of language isn't without purpose, as in a vacuum you will actually find linguistic and educational enrichment/fulfilment of potentials. This vacuum of agendas, or absence of hostile (or specifically: enfeebling) agendas, happens naturally in an identitarian community.
America with its American English, is the empire of post-modernity.
It was built no those who felt victimized in their won countries, and sought their luck in lands where there was still no established hierarchy - a break from the past to reinvent the self.
This is the basis of its spirit of constant 'progress'.....an obsession with the concept of moving froward and leaving the past behind - puritanism is its spirit, and so it mixes well with Judaism, the other victim-based meme.
Both infected with the same virus.
America began with the ambition to become the new Rome, a new Athens....they even considered adopting Greek as their official language. It has become a new Jerusalem, the reverse of what it had intended.
It not only invites the 'poor huddled masses', but it projects its world dominance playing the victim-card.
Presidents that tried to steer it towards the Holy Roman empire and Byzantium, if not Rome, were taken out.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism Mon Oct 08, 2018 7:06 am

English has an advantage that makes it the language of exchange and commerce. It can assimilate symbols/words into itself.
The problem with this is that if you lack an etymological context you cannot understand the richness of the foreign term that has been adopted into English. Although it has assimilated both Latin and Greek, if the user does not know the etymological roots and how the words were applied and used, in the original, they become remarks used by the average user with little understanding....used as a fashion trend, like wearing a different culture's garments, incorporating it into a new style, a trending fusion of multiculturalism....without any understanding of its roots.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism Sat Oct 13, 2018 8:59 am

The lie is antithetical to the philosophical acumen. Philosophy is about being a 'friend' to wisdom, and a friend never lies to his friend, because unlike erotic and/or romantic love, it is founded on an honest, awareness of other and of self.
How can it formulate wisdom if it lies to itself and to others?
Lies are good for constructing fantasies, coping mechanisms, they are good for politics, marketing, which often requires hyperbole, concealment, or exploitation of ignorance, or selective knowledge; lies are good for seducing, part of the sexual game, because the male sells and the female shops; lies are good for religion, because there happiness, comfort, offering hope, even false hope, sheltering, are the objectives.

Philosophy is antithetical to lies. It must see, and then decide what to do with what is seen, or how to cope with it, or how to exploit it or apply and use it.
Once an individual places anything other than truth as his/her objective, he ceases to be a philosopher.

Philosophy can only be practices and shared among equals, or homoioi, because no other criterion than the pursuit of truth and the acquisition of wisdom, is permitted to corrupt the process.
The ancients held symposiums, private gatherings, excluding women and children and the majority of males, for this reason alone.
Philosophy cannot be a collective project. Most cannot rise to the level of integrity, and courage it demands from its practitioners. Most are looking for excuses, for solutions, for comforting, for flattery, for guidance, and this is not guaranteed by the search for truth.
The world cares not for human feelings, and interests, and to see it as it is, demands a mind that can match its indifferent coldness, at least in its first phase of seeing, before the passions are called forth to process and use what is seen...to react to it.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism Sat Oct 13, 2018 10:43 am

What does the 'truth' matter to a mind that is protected from it?
All that matters is if it serves as a prerequisite for what has already been decided as being a goal.
How does it serve the achievement of the outcome?, that's what matters.
How can we spin it into a positive in relation to this desired outcome?
We live in a post-truth era.
Truth is a myth....understood as a lie, or given a social flavour, 'truth' is narrative.
Truth is a social construct, if only we all agree on this as a indubitable 'fact'. We'll call it esoteric, a 'white lie' maybe the 'Golden rule' that serves us all equally.
Who would not agree to share lies, or lies that feel good, or serve the outcome?
A madman, someone with an alternative motive, one that does not serve the desired outcome and denies all the 'right' to lie and to be validated by others, no mater what, if, and only if, the lie does not threaten everybody's 'right' to do likewise. A monster would deny others this 'right', if it is also provided to him.
Who would deny himself such a 'power'? Must be someone with an alternative motive to deny rights to gain something other than the right to lie to himself and be validated.

We've already decided 'truth' is a social construct, so which society is he seeking validation from?
That is the question.
Why would he deny others such an innocuous thing, like lying to one's self...who does he hurt, who does he harm, when he is not preventing you, or anyone from doing the same?
Who could deny such a thing as to live in his own reality, according to his own morals, and ideals?
A hateful bigot!! Someone who gets a 'high' from hurting others!!  
A sadist.....a masochist...some sort of psychosis. We needs new complexes to replace the ones we've recently decided were not illnesses, such as homosexuality, transsexualism....what's next?
Paedophilia, bestiality....maybe our judgement should be about 'who gets hurt'...so who gets hurt from someone fucking a corpse, or enjoys sticking banana in his rectum?
Nobody, that's who....so why is this an 'illness' in our post-truth, all is subjective, if it relates to human behaviour, unless it threatens subjective rights?
My 'freedom ends where yours begins', right? Truth has no place here.
Fuck it!!

The most important thing is to construct and maintain a social safety-net so nobody ever gets hurt when the bullshit is confronted by an indifferent, cold, cosmos.
Lets' imply that it isn't so 'indifferent and cold' but is conscious, and can judge....so it can be swayed, pleaded with, bribed, tricked, especially by a talented application of words....convinced...corrected.

From the nihilist's handbook.

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