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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism Nihilism - Page 3 EmptySat Dec 15, 2018 8:55 pm

From inside reality, there is no absolute, no one.
One refers to an ephemeral, dynamic unity...to any ephemeral unity.
One grain of sand, on one stone, on one mountain, on one continent, on one planet, in one solar system...etc.

The abstraction, the absolute, is created by simplifying/generalizing...abstracting = cutting away dimensions, leaving only the ones that can be processed as possibilities, space = possibility.
'One' represents the abstraction, that may or may not refer to an external phenomenon. So it can refer to anything.  

How does the mind contradict the parts by the presumed 'whole'?
From within existence(Bottom<>Up) it can only perceive fluidity, processes....phenomena conceptualized (interpreted) as noumena, ideas/ideals, abstractions.
To convert existence into oneness, a whole, the mind projects itself 'outside' existence, into some theoretical, noetic realm - non-existence....outside space/time.
From there, the cosmos becomes a uni-verse, a one (singularity), a whole.  
Then it decides that this noetic construct is more real than the reality it experiences daily....noumenon usurps phenomenon. The idea usurps the real.
Sensuality is contradicted by the theoretical....the mind prefers to believe in its own mental fabrications, because they, unlike reality, are malleable and controllable.
So, when the universe, conceptualized as an absolute whole, is contradicted by multiplicity, lacking absolutes; the contradiction is usually settled by siding with one's own noetic constructs.

How did the nihilists react to the fact that they could not find these concepts in the world?
They fabricated a god, meaning, purpose, universal morality, and then, when they failed to find any of it outside their own minds, they declared the 'world' as being wrong....something was wrong with the world, not their own methodology.
The world was 'negative' not their ideology.
What did they call those that denied their projected absolutes?
Yes...'nihilists'.
They accused those that rejected their delusions of being negative.  

What do they call those who prove that races are real, and that they matter?
Fascists, Nazis, liars projecting a desire to change the world in their favour.
See how it works?
You accuse those who expose what you are of being what you fear you are....absolving yourself, cleansing yourself, trying to convince yourself.

Watch how those who deny 'free-will' justify it:
Those who claim there is free-will want to punish us.
They find in Christianity's duplicity, a reason to accuse all.
But why would anyone want to punish them if their own choices are punishment enough?
Do they not live with the consequences of their mistakes...even if they try to claim that these were inevitable, so not mistakes, at all, but part of a greater design?
There's no need to punish anyone...only to step aside and to avoid being held accountable for their mistakes, and their errors in judgement.
Leftist hate that.
The individual himself suffers the consequences of his errors...so there's no need to punish him.

Instead, by declaring the world absolutely deterministic they want to absolve themselves of the implications.....because they want to hold something or someone accountable, instead of themselves.
Their ego, builds an over-compensating self-assessment, that is contradicted by their life.
They use it to self-deceive.
So, they cannot accept any responsibility for their circumstances...not one iota. That would shatter the self-decieving idealization of self...so they must believe in an external factor to hold accountable,  only acknowledging its power, as a Christian would the power of his one-god.
The Christians is his god's servant....like Job, he endures his god's will.
thy will be done.
The secular version, thinking he has transcended his Christian dogma, also surrenders to the universal will and only acknowledges and affirms what has been determined for him. He considers this 'brave'.

The alternative is too devastating a possibility to consider.
It would mean that he squandered his one and only opportunity, his one life, by making mistakes that expose his judgement as feeble....and his genetics as wanting.
Inheriting bad genes, he could not even muster the strength and awareness to overcome his own weakness; overcome himself.  
He deserves his circumstances, not because of some external will, or because others want to punish him, but because of himself, and his own inheritance.
He is his own punishment.
Why add to it/
Why contribute to his suffering?

But he also wants to spread his suffering, to make it bearable and less embarrassing.
He wants others to accept the responsibility or, at the very least, play along in his self-deception.
"Why would anyone not play along, decreasing someone's suffering?" he wonders. "They must want to punish me for being me." He concludes.
He is now the 'victim of another.

But that's not it, at all.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism Nihilism - Page 3 EmptySun Dec 16, 2018 2:05 pm

A nihilist - whether he be a 'positive' or a 'pure' type - opposites sides of the same tin-coin - must lie to deal with the contradictions his understanding of his own ideological representations produce when applied in an indifferent reality.
Linguistic games cannot work in the real world. You cannot trick or convince nature, using semiotics and semantics.

I've given examples of how they lie to themselves, and to others, as a way of validating their self-deception.

The ones absolutely denying, absolute 'freewill', will complain about others for victimizing them, or for being unjust and unfair...when, in accordance to their own beliefs, they, like themselves, have no choice in the matter.
The only option is to endure god's will, like Job did....or to stoically tolerate what one has no chance of changing.

The Christians lie, pretending to believe in man's free-will, but then claim that life in eternal hell awaits the one who expresses his freedom by contradicting god's will....or when they pretend to believe in free-will and then deny a man's right over himself, expressed by a wilful choice to commit suicide, quickening his ascent to heaven.
Christians pretend to believe in man's free-will, so as to make sinfulness possible - to make surrendering it to god's will evidence of their faith...because if all is made in god's image then nobody has the option of not being exactly as god intended him to be.
They invent the 'trickster and liar, Satan, to project their own hypocrisy and deceit upon him.....Satan is a representation of the believer's own true nature.
They despise themselves, and the world, and their suffering, possible, by hating this metaphor of themselves and of natural order.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism Nihilism - Page 3 EmptyWed Dec 19, 2018 6:12 am

Dissonance of Nihilistic Inversions
In their desperation to invert the phenomenon/noumenon sequence, into noumenon/phenomenon - represented in the Christian dogma with 'logos', and in Judaism with ideology - they produce their own confusions, or paradoxes.

-Dissonance of building power on an identity of powerlessness, or victimizing under the pretext of being the ultimate, universally chosen victim.
Identifying with how different you are from Hellenism, then admiring and imitating that which you celebrate rejecting/resisting.
Dissonance exposed in shamelessly corrupting the youth of the host you then pretend to be a member of, promoting policies that dilute its genetic heritage, while refusing to apply the same policies in the tribe you do feel a member of.

-Dissonance of claiming to deserve eternal life, paradise, the overseeing benevolence of omnipotence, while maintaining the self-indentity of humble servant - sacrificing his will - and whatever freedom it possesses - to prove his faith to an invisible Deity - erring on the side of caution is Pascal's Wager.
Arrogance, of such magnitude, that it can only be hidden beneath pretentious humility of a greater magnitude.
The dis-empowered claiming empowerment, through association.  

-Dissonance of declaring that the will is absolutely unfree - universal determinism - while complaining about another's behaviour and injustices against you.
Alignment with this belief would mean that the individual has to stoically endure whatever the world has in store for him, unless complaining and resisting is also what has been determined.
In which case, the individual is an audience member in the theatre of his own life - a New Age Platonic Cave.
The implication is that the universe evolves conciousness to suffer itself and its own impotence - masochism is a universal paraphilic state.
Christians submit to their god's will, praying he will not be too harsh on them - testing their faith.
Cynicism is the only rational reaction to this level of fatalism - also determined; laughing at one's own impotence, unable to know what has been determined, hoping and praying it is not too intolerable.  

-Dissonance of rejecting all objectivity, including one's own.
A circular argument leading to frustration and a submission to confusion.
The goal, in this case - unstated - is to equalize confusion, leading to a surrender to ignorance.
The awareness of no absolutes existing, resulting in a declaration that absolutes ought to exist, and if they do not then all is incomprehensible, and therefore not worth fighting for or against - surrender to absolute chaos.    

Obscurantism is how contrary positions - Orwell's newspeak - can simultaneously coexist in the same mind, or coexist in the same group, without internal conflicts, or dissonance.
Words are intentionally kept vague, reducing frictions. in the twilight shadows forms mix and mingle...losing consistency.
Disparate, often contrary positions,coexisting when their boundaries are not clear and concise.

Corrupting language is a method of controlling thinking, and corrupting judgements; warping spirits.
Th intentional misuse of language directing thinking towards submissions and degradation - decreasing resistance to external manipulation.
Obscurantism feeds into human insecurity, exploiting Nihilism as a tool to hijack individual wills - zombie virus.

Detaching man from his past (nature) disarms him; destroying a pool of identification and guidance - empowerment.
Detaching man from the reality (presence) renders him lost and helpless; destroying his trust in his won senses, and his linguistic connections to the world he participates in.

The future is lost to such a man. He has no way of controlling his own destiny: a pawn in another's game.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism Nihilism - Page 3 EmptyThu Dec 20, 2018 8:19 am

The Theory of Relativity lends itself to modern misunderstanding of Perspectivism.
Relativity can be corrupted, in the psychosis of a moron, to mean that the individual is the factor that manifests as the world's relativity...or that the individual's perspective is the world.
Moderns can use relativity to dismiss race, sex, inequality....and support subjectivity.
For a coward and an imbecile 'relative' and 'perspective' means 'all is subjective,' and that there is 'no objective world'.

There is no world to have a perspective of, or to be relative to...no objective reality to be a subject of.
This is the 'positive' nihilistic psychosis. Nous IS the creator of phenomena; is God-Creator, and all that remains to determine is if God is other than man, but including man, or man himself.
If not God's will, then man's will creates reality, out of nothing.

Noumenon precedes phenomenon.  
Abrahamic 'wisdom' "first there was 'logos' and logos was with god, and logos was god".
For the Christian the symbol/word IS god.
They depict it in imagery, in lettering...but the Jews and the Muslims refuse to depict god, because all symbols are versions of the one-god, and using one 'diminishes' the idea....it is blasphemy against the divine.
An excuse to propose obscurantism as justifying their ideologies: what is unknown, IS the absolute....the nil, the negative becomes 'positive' ergo 'positive Nihilsim.
So, money is a representation of the Messiah....the one-god made tangible....an abstraction reflecting the divine.
An idea...ideology.
Idea is God; God is Idea.
The tangible, the phenomenon, contradicts or insults the divine - it 'soils' it. The ideal is dirtied by the real.

Muslims can sacrifice self, the corporeal, to the idea of God....and Jews 'chose' the idea of themselves - themselves made ideology - when their physicality (genetics) was rejected by all tribes.
This is the source of disagreement between the three branches of Judaism....its original (orthodox), Political (Marxism), Cultural (Zionism) variations.  
Zionists want to 're-turn to their pagan ancestry, before they were infected by the virus.....inspired by Hellenism.  
I talked about how contact between Hellenism and Judaism caused cross-contamination: the Greeks were corrupted by Judaism, producing Christianity, and the Jews by Hellenism, splintering in 'three'...the number is not accidental, it represents the triadastic nature of man: mind/nervous system/body; an idea carried into Christianity with the Father/Holy Spirit./Son triad...a corruption of the Platonic psyche metaphor.

Zionism wants to become Hellenism, but it is corrupted by its own Jewish past; it want sot become tribal, but it still uses the same insidious, feminine strategies of its Jewish past. Modern Jewry can be divided into the three competing branches....it's why I said that the Cold war was an internal conflict over the spoils.
It ended when the Russians, via Stalin and later Putin, expelled Jews from their midst, establishing theoretical and physical boundaries.

Putin replaced Marxism with a return to Christian Orthodoxy.
What is presently occurring in the Balkans, and across central Europe, all the way to the Ukraine, is a battle over the hearts of minds of Orthodox Christians.
Russia's alliance with Turkey has to be understood through this spectrum....because in Turkey is the centre of Christian Orthodoxy.
The Russians hate the Turk. They swallowed their pride, after the Turks downed one of their jets, because they need the Turks.

Jones claimed that Semites were a Turkic tribe. It was an interesting insight.
They certainly are not Europeans....they mix with the host they intestate.
Read into how they took over Egypt...or how Abraham offered his own wife to be a concubine of the Pharaoh.
They are shameless. Placing their survival, the idea of them, above all other considerations.
They try to interbreed to hide within the host they exploit.
They did it in Russia....by changing their names to appear Slavic,. while they undermined Russian civilization with Marxism.
They are doing it in the US....controlling not only the media, but the porn industry, and banking, and Hollywood, corrupting the US's youth, promoting diluting social principles...and so on.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism Nihilism - Page 3 EmptyThu Dec 20, 2018 2:28 pm

Conservatism promotes non-intervention, in the form of minimizing governmental control.
Why?
Because sheltering gives the imbecile, coward, hypocrite a false sense of itself, and the world it participates in.

In natural environments every choice, every action, every behaviour has costs and it has benefits.
Accumulated bad judgements lead to death, if the individual does not adjust itself to the environment - if it does not discipline itself to natural order, or does not harmonize itself, its subjectivity, to the world's objectivity.  

But this is not the case in man-made environments.
They, guided by a different motive than fitness, intervene, protecting the individual from its own errors.
This gives the impression to the feeble-minded nit-wit, that it is invincible, equal, strong....when it is because of an intervening will - not God - that they remain immune to the costs of their stupidity.
This intervention give the weakling, the feeble-minded imbecile, the impression that he is the equal of all others, because he' or she has never had to face the full brunt, the full consequences of his own inferior judgement.
He's never been forced to adapt, so he feels powerful...a master....and he's never suffered, early on, forcing him to face his won culpability. As he grows older he refuses to admit that it was he, and he alone, who is responsible for his circumstances, not because he is entirely the one determining the circumstances he is forced to exist within, but because he's failed to accurately evaluate his own culpability, in relation to those of otherness, and in relation to unconscious forces.
With age the mind becomes rigid...unable to adapt so unwilling to face-up to its own responsibilities, no matter how small they may be.

Whatever the degree of free-will, the degree of personal responsibility is never absolutely expunged. the fact that there is no absolute freedom, does not mean there is absolutely no freedom.
The either/or dualism is an excuse....a fleeing, a running away,...a desperate attempt to escape self.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism Nihilism - Page 3 EmptyThu Dec 20, 2018 3:06 pm

Here is how infection and its by-product, pollution manifests:
We are speaking of both genetic (physical, tangible), and memetic (ideological, intangible, abstract) contexts....so both material and psychological garbage/pollution.

Sheltering protect the unfit from natural processes of eradication, cleansing: such as culling, genetic exclusion....
It intervenes to protect the unfit, the delusional, the nihilism, form themselves and their own hypocrisy.

My definition of natural versus artificial:
All organisms wilfully intervene upon environment, trying to adjust their own potentials and their own survival percentages.
But only one does to the degree that can be called the creation of artificiality.
All are part of nature and/or natural agencies, so the distinction is more particular than natural/unnatural.
The distinction - like all distinctions and categories - is meant to clarify and distinguish...in this case the degree of impact and how much this affects the individual, or the population, indirectly as collateral effects.

Here is my definition of 'artificial'....given for the umpteenth time:
The ambiguous - in spatial/temporal contexts - where the wilful/intentional interventions of an organism , or population of reproductively codependent organisms (species), intervenes upon its environment to a DEGREE where the interventions begin to affect it MORE than the environment intervened upon .
So far, only humans fall into this category.
though all life intervened upon its environment, only man does so to a degree where his interventions affects him more than the environment he intervened upon.
This has direct implications on subjective/objective perspectives and on how we perceive homosexuals, other races etc.
Man's interventions upon nature produces benefits but also costs....we call those pollution, global warming, and....though it is ignored, genetic mutations.
This multifarious explosion of un-culled genetic mutations might be beneficial to the species - in the short term - and, for some, a bit of needed 'spice', but like pollution itself, they accumulate and accumulate until the cost becomes a price too high to pay...and it overwhelms the system that produces it.


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Nihilists don't just believe language is impotent and insufficient, but they go out of their way to cultivate its impotence and to increase its insufficiency.
They joyfully nurture obscurity, vagueness, because they benefit from it.  

It's the same with appearances.
Instead of striving to clarify, to expose, they want to cover it all up.
They not only believe that appearances are superficial and meaningless, but they cultivate the meaninglessness and superficiality of appearances.
They can't prove the bullshit they use to protect their ego, so they can only discredit all proof....laughing at how it's all so imprecise and imperfect.

A small portion go out of their way to make language ridiculous....like declaring themselves 'black' when their obviously 'white' or by making outlandish claims, or by abusing language and linguistic forms so that they inadvertently, or intentionally, discredit language, implying that all language is just as ridiculous.
In the context of appearances, they go out of their way to appear as what they are not so as to, hypothetically, expose how superficial appearances are.  

It's the typical use of 'nil'...the 0.

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A segment of nihilists have no ideology. Their ideas and ideals are a cover for alternate motives. Having reduced everything to ideology, and having discredited language in their head, they've lost all faith in human ideas.
Their own degeneracy is projected as a universal 'truth', and they see themselves everywhere. Their own stupidity, of having been repeatedly seduced by Nihilistic dogmas, becomes a hidden source of shame, they must protect their ego from.
Their antithesis to Christian shaming is an antithesis to all shame – they want to find relief in the shamelessness of their degeneracy, inverting it into a kind of 'gay pride' – no more Abrahamic 'guilt' but a surrender to degeneracy.
Their obsession with Nietzsche is partially based on his 'transvaluation of values', in which they sensed a relief, seeing in it a plausible reason to invert their shame into pride – ‘beyond good & evil’, became an excuse for their degeneracy – explaining it as an advancement above and beyond the conventional value standards. They wanted to not be held accountable for anything, more so their own degradation. Escaping accountability factors in deeply. This is another example of 'positive' Nihilism.

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ONE is the new name for the secular Nihilist's 'god'.
Though he cannot point to it, he can think it, believing it exists 'outside his mind'.
Just as the one-god for the Abrahamics, it is an idea/ideal with no external reference. A representational symbol believed in literally.
This is typical Nihilistic delusion: the confusion of the linguistic word/symbol for an actual existing phenomenon.

The Modern, when conceptualizing a one-cosmos a universe, he projects himself, noetically, 'outside' space time, so as to imply, indirectly, that the universe is one.
This is exactly where Abrahamics place their one-god: outside space/time, in the 'beyond'.
Since space/time is experienced existence, what is 'outside' can only be non-existent, or a theoretical 'realm' retained in its symbolic vague, elusive, alluding form in the mind as idea.
One is common to both secular Nihilism and Abrahamism, which is a variant of spiritual Nihilism.
What does 'one' allude to, if taken literally and not figuratively and/or representationally?
It alludes to the absolute which is always missing.
What is missing is the indivisible, immutable, complete, singularity.
What, in fact exists, is a symbol - a word number - alluding to something outside the mind, or expressing a mental state i.e. absolute certainty, conviction, faith.

The nihilist worships metal constructs, in other words the mind. If a conflict between noumenon and phenomenon arises they will always usurp the phenomenon with the noumenon.
In the mind all is malleable, created, as if from nothing, all is synthesized, all is possible; in the mind worlds can exist that 'correct' the real: 'better worlds'; in the mind theories are perfect, even when in application, in the real world, they fail; in the mind all that threatens can be 'erased' with a thought, with a change in attitude.
Mind is God...and the divine. They used to call it 'spirit', but it can have any name, because it is completely and totality linguistic, if it is pure.
In fact, the divine is pure abstraction, pure idea, pure ideal: unblemished, untroubled, free from the tangible, the corporeal, the material - mind liberated from the body, the physical. This is what they mean by 'spirit' and 'soul': pure idea, cocnept, theory, ideology. In its most extreme it is entirely detached from reality, offering the greatest relief to the 'believer'.
Words, Numbers, symbols are how the Divine exists....because without a mind the absolute vanishes.

Modern Nihilists worship mind devoid of body - ideas floating in a realm 'beyond' the body, the physical, the tangible, the experienced.
Mind with no race, no sex, nothing corporeal, nothing 'dirty', 'base', 'demeaning', like that. A realm of purified minds where all are 'equal', able to share ideas, as one shares genetics - mental intercourse, spreading ideas across the spectrum of minds floating in limbo.
Minds that can declare themselves as being anything and everything, as there is no body to limit and restrict their mind's choice.
What do they call a authoritarian, totalitarian cosmos that limits their choices?
They call it 'nil', the 'negative'. indirectly referring to mind, and its creative abstractions, as the 'positive'.

These are the 'positive' Nihilists. 'Replacing' and 'correcting' existence with their noetic projections.

There are others, their kindred spirits, that go to the other extreme, declaring it all 'negative' and the mind entirely enslaved and determined - useless, impotent - and they do this to escape their own poor judgements, and their own loss of self-respect.
If they cannot have it then nobody can.
These are the pure authentic Nihilists, antagonizing and exposing their kindred spirits to themselves, while reinforcing their won adopted cynicism.
For them the absence of absolutes means all is illusion.
If not ONE then NONE. If not God, then Satan.
Binary either/or psychosis = 1/0.
The absence of an absolute ONE means, for them, the presence of an absolute NIL.
Either way they need an absolute final telos.
They place it before them, as a coming future, or behind them as a determining past, but they remain faithful to it - true believers.
Their faith is their fate 7 their fate is their faith. Their convictions validate their fatalism. A self-affirming belief.
For all intents and purposes the belief, the idea, is 'real' for them.
The cosmos is indifferent to all human interpretations and attitudes towards it, so these self-referential self-deceptions can only survive if they are protected from themselves or if the individual is a hypocrite, acting in ways that contradict its own stated beliefs.
They are self-comforting delusions that help the individual cope with the world and their own place within it: how they, as individuals, compare to others.
This is the basic 'benefit' of Nihilism. As a method of coping with an emerging, and troubling, self-awareness.

One is god; god is one. Absolute, perfect, complete, in the mind.
An absolute can only be negated with an equal to it absolute - the Nil.
Ergo, Nil is Satan, Nil is Free-Will, negating absolute determinism - contradicting the one-god's Will.
The noumenon usurps the phenomenon; idea/ideal replaces real. The mind overcomes the world.
Ergo, the products - creations - of the mind are more 'real' than the real: absolute ONE/NIL, represented by symbols/words/numbers negate the experienced.
For the pure Nihilist the 'nil' is god, or the absolute; for the 'positive' Nihilist the 'one' is god, or the absolute.
In both cases the idea, the cocnept, the noumenon is Absolute creator or destroyer, of the experienced phenomenal real - the world outside the mind.
God is 'brought down to earth' and placed in the Mind, as theory, abstraction.
Man, the physical, is but a representation of this Divine Idea - a poor imperfect representation. An inversion of the actual.
World is now the mnid's creation - subjective. Not its interpretation, but its literal Creation.
And what is the creator if not Word - for it came 'first', according to Biblical narratives.
Not the act interpreted and reduced to 'word', but the 'word' creating world.
The most 'abstract' word of all, and therefore the 'purest' most positive and divine, is the ONE = 1.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism Nihilism - Page 3 EmptyFri Mar 01, 2019 9:00 pm

When it comes to math, there are those who have nihilistic ideology and use math as an escape. When confronted on something, they escape into science or math as 'something more important' to excuse themselves from their delusion. I can see this being an argument for mathematics not being nihilistic, or even the least nihilistic manner of perception. How people use it to excuse their ideology only says a thing about them, not math. Even if an imperfect framework of engagement: the least imperfect.

It may arise out of a confusion between two aspects of the mind, where language and symbols (social IQ) uses metaphor so as to calculate the mathematical concepts (spatial IQ).  So the high social IQ mathematician has less understanding versus the high spatial IQ mathematician. Even if that high social IQ can be utilized to surpass the speed and efficiency of the higher spatial IQ. That is, until there's demand for understanding and practical application and/or new/novel formulae.
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Nihilism produces conflict and variations to the degree that it applies its negations.
The more detached it becomes the more it becomes purified as idea, and so it becomes more subjective, governed by subconscious forces like ego and emotion.
It needs an anchoring, and with no external standard - no objective reality - it turns inward - and not necessarily into itself. It may seek anchoring inside another...adopting his esotericism as his own, creating a ideological spiritual following.

Marxism was splintered along the lines of how far away from natural order - the objective world - it was willing to go to eradicate human division so as to produce uniformity as a prerequisite for its Utopia.
Anarchists, differed from Leninists; Trotskyites and Stalinists, and troskyites differed from Maosists and Stalinists.
Their differences were nuanced, founded on how they interpreted the common theoretical code - Marxism - and how they proposed to apply it in the real world.

Christians did the same with their common text, the bible, splintering into multiple sects.
So, did Islam.
Judaism,Christianity, and Islam share a common dogma, represented in the figure of Abraham.

This is why ideologies are elusive, relying no word-games to protect themselves from scrutiny.
The more nihilistic they become the easier they can seek refuge in obscurantism, and mysticism.

I think of it as a detachment from the earth's gravity.
The higher you go, distancing yourself from the solid ground, the easier it is to defy gravity, until you exit the atmosphere into empty space, where you float in a state of limbo.
The mind does the same with abstractions.

This is what Yockey called horizontal race, as opposed to vertical race. The same principles apply in the context of race, as they do for the concept of god, or self.
The more detached the mind becomes from the body - the physical - the more it enters the state of theoretical limbo...where you can no longer propel yourself, nor direct your body.
There's a cost to the presumed 'benefit' that most Moderns refuse to appreciate. They prefer to focus on the mind's liberty, and how wonderful it would be to become unbound, unsuppressed by gravity...to be soaring in your mind, into the heavens.

Semiotics is how they propel themselves into the stratosphere, hoping to make it into space...space being possibilities.
But how long can you survive without the earth?
Even if you use technologies, you replicate the earth, taking it with you into space. Prolonged exposure to gravity-less space, atrophies the muscles, including the hearth. Your body is diminished without the stress of mass - everything becomes massless, without substance, with no gravitas...but you slowly decline towards death.

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A parable:
We've all looked up to a clouded sky and saw different recognizable forms there.
Some see faces of loved ones, some see angles, butterflies, stallions galloping on a foam of splashing water.

The Nihilist will believe these forms were meaningful, in the sense that the universe was sending them, the entire world, all of humanity, secret messages.
The narcissist would believe the messages were only intended for him, and that others were witnessing a universe communicating with him, and only him. When birds sing he hears words meant for his ears. When cars honk or church bells ring, the time and sound has a secret, occult, significance meant to transmit to him a message only he can decipher.
A cyinc would dismiss the entire affair as meaningless. Some would laugh at the very idea of clouds existing.

A realist would. rightfully, recognize the play of light upon form, as being coincidental, allowing the observer to project into the shapes whatever meanings came our of him/her.

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A Nihilist is not interested in 'truth' 'reality' or 'integrity'. He wants to validate the conclusion he's already made; the solution he's already accepted to cope with himself, within world.
He laughs at anything that even tries to expose him to his own lies.
There is no way he can begin to question what he needs to remain sane, and...alive.
Without it he will die, or kill himself.

He already has a solution - an idea/ideal. What he needs now is to justify it, not only to himself, but to others.
Because the world is constantly contradicting it, he needs other minds to agree, to validate what he desperately needs to believe, about himself, in relation to the world.

The absolute is such a final and theoretically 'complete' solution. An end, though he will convince himself he does not believe in it, as he would with the Abrahamic God.
He needs more feminine, more insinuating, indirect methods of worshipping the same idol i.e. himself - a way to escape the shame, and purify the idol - cleanse it of all occult motives.

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Nihilism is reliant on semiotics to exist. It cannot do so outside brains that can construct and apply them.
The symbol is believed in 'literally' by the Modern Nihilist, because it's the only way he can 'project' his noetic construct 'outside' his mind - sharing it with others of his kind - unless it is converted to language or some kind of symbol communicating it, translating it, outwards?
The world must be 'perfect', whole, complete, immutable, absolute, otherwise it cannot 'negate' the challenging 'real'. It has to provide what the world denies.
But a literal understanding leads to paradoxes and to the necessity for self-deception, because the Modern Nihilist cannot abandon the method of coping, but if he follows it to its own 'logical end' he risks a worse fate.
So, he at once must maintain the 'purity' of the idea he uses to cope with existence, and an excuse as to how and why he refuses to abide by its principles; why he cannot remain loyal to its inherent logic.

This is where self-deception- via the deception of others - is decisive.
It becomes a communal deception, each individual validating it in the other - a solipsist echo chamber, that gives the impression of it not being circular because others offer the illusion of an external otherness - standing in for reality.
This is a memetic hive-mind - the ideological component of herd psychology.

The individual using nihilism to comfort himself, to help himself cope with an indifferent, uncertain world, cannot follow the methods to its end, according to its own logic, because that would expose him to a greater threat - in the conflict between ideal and real, ideal has no chance. In the contradiction between subjective and objective, the subjective has no chance.
The imperfections and errors in its own interpretation, judgements, opinions, will become consequences only it will suffer, and no amount of word juggling can save it from an indifferent, to its plight, world.

It hopes that convincing as many others, as possible, can mitigate the costs of its errors in judgment, but this can only postpone the inevitable.
It's trapped in a conundrum: it cannot abandon its ideology, its judgement, because without it it has nothing to protect its ego, and nothing to use to cope, but neither can it remain true to the 'logic' of its own 'ideology' because this can have immediate and far worse consequences.
So, such a degenerate, chooses to self-deceive and to hold onto two contradicting positions, simultaneously; obfuscating the contradictions, in clouds of romantic and/or occultism suggestive jargon, using some idol/icon as a mediating threat, or it laughs it away, redirecting thinking suing humour, or some other form of distraction.  
 
Self must remain unsoiled. Pure, perfect, innocent, and the ideology/dogma, can help by projecting 'negativity' upon another - if not God,/Satan, then some kind of cocnept, abstraction.

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If we use the platonic symbol of the psyche and its triadastic partitions of the individual  logic/spirit/appetite, and we adjust it into mind/nervous system/body, then for the degenerate modern the issue becomes one of dividing the mind into three parts: each applying a different version of the same theory, though they need not be in agreement, but in fact they may even contradict one-another.
The schism, splintering, of mind is in three fragments.
1- what you say you think... 2- what you actually think...and 3- what you do.

So, you can claim to be an atheist, tell yourself something else that excuses the deception, and act as if you were a theist.
Of the three the third is the most reliable....'First came the action'....not logos.  
Logos, in Abrahamism, was used to conceal action, or to excuse it...to find salvation in semiotics.

So, a modern can claim to not believe in free-will, for example, excuse itself as having to justify nothing to anyone, and then act as if there were free-will.
Using the negation to declare itself 'innocent', outwardly (public self - character) - justify the actions it feels no shame about internally (private self - personae), but act/behave by accusing others for its own predicament - as if they are not innocent, whereas he is - secretly feeling embarrassed, not for the acts themselves, but for its poor judgment, given the circumstances.
It may hold others accountable for its predicament, which it claims to enjoy, embrace, while also claiming to be innocent, because there is no free-will.
The act contradicts the first two, and it is the most 'honest' expression of the true self.

A Christian may say all are sinners and worthy of salvation, but internally he may feel self-righteous, the only one who deserved to be saved, or may even believe he is excluded from the first rule, given his uncontrollable naughty thoughts and behaviours, and his actions may continue unhindered, as if the first two never happened.  

Say one thing - nervous system expressed in semiotics - think a second - mind, idealizing self and world - and do a third - body, expressing the genetic past honestly and openly.  
Mind/Body dissonance is nervous system, expressed through language; synthesizing the body's uncontrollable honesty, and the minds deceptions.  
Neurosis.

Say (synthesis of mind/body) <> Think (synthesis of exoteric and esoteric stimulations) <> Do (automated synthesis of sum of past nurturing, i.e. nature, with immediate dynamic environment, i.e. nurture)

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism Nihilism - Page 3 EmptyThu Mar 14, 2019 2:29 pm

Self-deception happens in the mind.
A man may declare himself a 'genius' - or pious, or strong, or brave - convinced that he is, but feel that he may not be.
He speaks it, so as to hear it echoed back to him, as if the world were validating what his mind has fabricated, while, at the same time, feeling insecure, and ashamed of what he secretly doubts to be so.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism Nihilism - Page 3 EmptyThu Mar 14, 2019 6:32 pm

On every opportunity, and by any means, one Abrahamic ought to be pitted against another version of itself - to battle over different variants of the same disease.
A crypto-Christian, masking as a liberal, or openly Marxist, competing with a crypto-Jew, masking as a Zionist, or a European - may the gods save us from such a decrepit miasma of duplicitous parasitism.

On every opportunity, a man stands back when two females, or two children fight.
There's more potential harm in stepping in, than in stepping aside, and very little potential benefit.

When barbarians sacked a wealthy, civilized city, they looted and raped, and then turned on each other, over what was left - every little bit, every morsel, had to be taken, because when the city fell they could not, cannot, replicate it, but only plunder from its accumulated wealth.
Parasites and scavengers exhibit a similar behaviour. They are peaceful, when the carcass is still large, but as it decays and the pickings grow smaller, they turn on each other, fighting over morsels still clinging to the bones - the spectacle of vultures competing against maggots is a sight to behold.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism Nihilism - Page 3 EmptyThu Mar 14, 2019 8:43 pm

What unites Nihilists is a common enemy.
If it isn't natural selection, and the injustices of natural order, represented by racial and sexual inequalities, then its a common reference point, representing a shared fear.
Presently its World War 2, with the continuance stocking by the representatives of the ideal victims, all victims must compare to.

Without this shared, external of, they revert to their inverted pseudo-intellectual debate, between their bipolar absolutes.
The underlying narrative is, 'how can we 'correct' the world and produce the 'best possible alternative'. They may use alternative word like 'heal' or 'save', or 'create' etc.
As usual they will deny this and accuse others of being motivated by what 'burns them to the core'.

It's a form of self-purification, like accusing others of 'hate' and 'envy' and 'fear', before they discover these passions being part of their source of 'passion'.
It's how a degenerate 'baptises' himself 'innocent', 'unaccountable', implying but not daring to use the term 'good', or 'saved'.
The projection is meant to unload the 'negative' upon the 'evil' other - this is how 'purification occurs.
The mind unburdening itself of the body's 'honesty, and its 'imperfections' to remain 'divinely' perfect and theoretically 'honest' in its self-deceit.
Innocence means ignorance - ro denial - just as God means absolute - call it 'order,' or 'humanity,' or 'one'. Call it by any name, because it does not matter what you 'name' it, it's the definition that counts, and its detachment from the perceived.
This 'cleansing' detachment - represented in the allegory of the Biblical narrative, about Jesus' resurrection.
A body dies, but an idea....it lives as long as it has a mind to house it.

The Jews made themselves god and then create a narrative by which their 'rejection' by all tribes, resulted in their 'acceptance' of themselves in the ideal form - as idea. This is how a dozen, or so Semitic tribes were 'reborn' as Jews, while others - even among the Semites, having 'rejected' them, were not 'chosen'.

Noumenon, is the Divine - the idea.
God is Logos, as the Christians said, corrupting the original Greek meaning, by adjusting it to their own absolutist needs.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism Nihilism - Page 3 EmptyMon Mar 18, 2019 11:13 am

Adopting Yockey's definitions of 'race', i.e. 'vertical' vs 'horizontal' race, we can identify Nihilism as an entirely 'horizontal' mind-set - psychological impulse - attempting to detach from the 'vertical' connections to the 'ground' of ideologies, which can only be the apparent.

Appearance being the subjective interpretation of what is objectively 'present' - or past manifesting as presence.This corresponds to the gene/meme divide - body/mind dualism - noumenon/phenomenon.
The sequence is crucial, and it corresponds to causality, experienced as linear temporality.

Nihilism 'begins' with the idea/ideal, i'e' with the objective, which it baptised 'absolute' - Top<>Down emoting, is purely ideological, only acknowledging the perceived if it can integrate it in its, already established, conclusions.
It is entirely selective, and applies schizophrenia, or compartmentalization, to quarantine and ignore what it cannot integrate into its ideology, or to selectively sample from reality, without contradicting the ideology.

The idea - ideology - is the divine, the absent absolute, contradicting the apparent, the experienced, i.e. Abrahamism, Marxism, Communism/Capitalism, etc.

In my understanding the gene/meme are connected, from gene towards meme, from phenomena towards noumena, and therefore race cannot exclude the English (Darwinian) definition, adopting the German definition, because in the current world the identifiers have been blurred by race-mixing and social conventions.
The 'vertical' must 'connect' with the 'horizontal'.

Admittedly, to combat the disease of Nihilism one must emphasize the 'vertical', as the only cognitive plane it can confront an entirely ideological - memetic - disease.
The 'vertical' is the advantage we have over those who prefer to remain on the 'horizontal', i.e. those who believe in ideas with no reference to anything tangible, corporeal, physical.
The mind, freed from all external constraints, can convince itself of anything. One such 'constraint' being the consequences of being disconnected from reality, or from the consequences of misunderstanding and misinterpreting the apparent.
the absence of anxiety-fear, results in an absence of respect - a cynical approach, that may become enraptured by its own 'creative genius': cynic/socio-path & narcissist/schizophrenic, the two extreme psychological poles of Bi-polar absolutism.
The threat of the ultimate cost - death - is a sobering factor. it's reduction produces infantile psychologies, entitlement etc.....it's theoretical elimination - under the auspices of systemic protections - produces madness.
The current Identity Crisis being an indication of increasing insanity - political representation mirroring the growing madness of the masses, gradually disconnecting from reality, and immersing themselves within their own minds - cult of subjectivity.

Body - the physical tangible, perceptible, the apparent - disciplines the mind, by restricting its noetic creativity, forcing it to adjust to an external natural order.
Over-emphasizing the dominance of the body - the physical - enslaves the mind to the other; over-emphasizing the dominance of the mind - the abstract - disconnects from reality, producing insanity.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism Nihilism - Page 3 EmptyMon Mar 18, 2019 1:49 pm

The human mind is generally correct when It speculates on its own incorrectness. Taking advantage of this fact, nihilism proposes dismissal of all things as a basic assumption; the null hypothesis.
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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism Nihilism - Page 3 EmptyMon Mar 18, 2019 2:10 pm

The human mind evolved to facilitate survival - dealing with all sorts of threats, and needs.
It will always err on the side of caution - its hyperbolic fabrications always self-flattering and self-comforting.
If it lies to itself it will be so that even if it is exposed the damage will no be life-threatening.

Pascal's wager.

The mind knows its own fallibility - intuitively, even if it over-compensates and self-deceives.
Cynicism is about humour - laughing, is a release of stress-energy. This is how it deals with uncertainty.
Narcissism uses the method of self-aggrandizement - like a puffer fish, inflating itself to appear larger than what it actually is; larger than it secretly feels.
Cats use the arched back, and hairs standing up....and so do primates - We call them goosebumps. A remnant Of a primal past.
Defensive mode is automatic.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism Nihilism - Page 3 EmptySun Mar 31, 2019 4:36 pm

Economics of Nihilism - placing Nihilism within Marxist/Capitalist paradigms.

Generosity is a product of abundance; sharing is a product of wealth.
This is why Liberalism displays itself as 'healthy' fitness, accessing a wealth of resources.
Selectivity and intolerance is a product of austerity; selfishness is a product of impoverishment.
This is why Capitalists are displayed as greedy souls, where nothing is ever enough because what they lack is psychological, i.e. they are psychologically impoverished.
This explains Nihilism's antithesis to reality or to natural order, because in nature organic resources are hard to access and accumulate; nature is frugal, what proves unfit is quickly extinguished and what ceases to be useful slowly atrophies.
Nature, as it pertains to life, is conservative - it conserves what is difficult to accumulate and to produce.
Leftists usually flourish in times of economic abundance and superfluity, along with decadence and degradation.
The old saying, ascribed to Churchill is that 'liberals are generous with other people's money' [sic]
The left always rises when the right produces abundance.  

Example...imagine you are in a airtight structure with others....and that there's a fixed amount of air entering the structure that does not suffice for all.
Suddenly your carefree, careless, respiration, becomes a troublesome issue. you begin counting the breaths others are taking, making careful estimations about how much oxygen they are consuming, and how long it will take before all begin to suffocate - then you begin considering how many or who to kill, to extent your lifespan.
Your previous carefree inhaling, your 'live and let live' attitude becomes severe and stringent - your thought serious, and no longer comical and cynical.

Nihilists born and raised in abundance cannot comprehend severity, i.e. stringency of thought and action. It's nonsensical because they only know and understand abundance - limitless wealth, energies....possibilities.
They can only comprehend austerity and frugality as a psychosis - fear, anxiety, projecting themselves in such states of exotic, for them, circumstances.  
They don't need to car, so they don't. they don't have to be sober, and serious, so they don't. They don't have to be honest and as precise as possible, so thy are not.
They only know that some things are guaranteed, even under the worse of circumstances....they have no experience with anything outside them.

Abundance creates superfluity; superfluity produces infantile psychologies refusing to mature; infantile cultures, reverting to immaturity, bring about penury....the cycle repeats.
As men-children laugh and self-aggrandize, stretching their fantasies to their limits, the world remains indifferent to their needs and desires, and to their childish dreams and proclamations, and beliefs...and their linguistic word-games.
The world is unconscious, no matter how strongly some wish it were not so...and it does not care because it can't care - there si no moral motive, because morality evolves within living organisms as a product of caring for their own continuance and how to promote and maintain it.

The cosmos has no feelings, no mind to be moved by moral dilemmas.

We can transfer this to any context...for instance in times of data inundation and easy access to knowledge, all become self-proclaimed 'genius'' and all tolerate it, as a 'let's agree to disagree', but if our lives depended on knowledge then we would, suddenly, become more careful, more discriminating, as to what we respect and tolerate; suddenly, not all would be respectable, and now all judgements equal, all would be more serious and our judgements more careful about what and who to evaluate as 'genius' and 'respectable'.  

But that the ideal of Nihilism...and liberalism as its political expression - Marxism was about sharing resources....and so is post-modernism. Equal dissemination of knowledge and, more importantly, of understanding, so that nobody is excluded.
Sharing creates the illusion of parity, and sharing is only possible in environments that produce excesses, in all fields....information, sexuality, wealth, love, respect....and so on.
Excess, superfluity is nihilism's favourite environment. Unfortunately it cannot produce them...because it is entirely noetic, theoretical, abstract.  
This is why parasitical-memes flourish in and via a host that produces and provides abundance and superfluity...a sense of carefree abandonment; this is why hedonism is the final end, whether it be conspicuous or inconspicuous, justifying the means.
Parasites emerge when the host perishes and a feast is at hand. Then, they disappear, awaiting a new host to infest.  
Nihilism is a reaction to an excess, i.e. an excess of awareness, called self-consciousness.

A virus cannot produce health, it can only feed on it; a parasite cannot survive without a host to feed on.
Nihilism cannot produce truth or objectivity, it can only exploit and manipulate it.
A parasite-meme can't produce art, or anything of pragmatic value, it can only corrupt what it finds ready-made, leading it astray and contrary to what produced it.

It's all part of a cycle....memes - culture - follows this cycle.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism Nihilism - Page 3 EmptySun Apr 07, 2019 2:51 pm

The root of Nihilism as it is revealed through the words of Rousseau...
Rousseau, Jean-Jacque wrote:
As soon as one adopts the habit of measuring oneself against others and moving outside oneself in order to assign oneself the first and best place, it is impossible not to develop an aversion for everything that surpasses us, everything that lowers our standing, everything that diminishes us, everything that by Being Something prevents us from Being Everything.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism Nihilism - Page 3 EmptyMon Apr 08, 2019 1:54 pm

Denial is the fundamental aspect of the Nihilistic paradigm. not only denial of world, as it is revealed and it appears, but denial that this denial is Nihilism, i.e., self-deceit.

Of course acknowledgement is not necessary, and in this case it would be detrimental to the Nihilistic process of denial.
An individual can be a Nihilist and simultaneously deny that he is one, believing he is the antithesis to Nihilism.
This is part of the mechanism, beginning with the corruption of the conventional definition of Nihilism.

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  ni·hil·ism
[ˈnīəˌlizəm, ˈnēəˌlizəm]
NOUN

   the rejection of all religious and moral principles, in the belief that life is meaningless.
In other words the negation of the negation of Nihilistic constructs, such as one-god, universal morality, universal meaning, is labelled nullification by nihilists.
Just this exposes the linguistic corruptive inversions Nihilism depends on.

Nihilism is a memetic-virus existing entirely as ideology represented semiotically. It is idea that attempts to purify itself by eliminating all aspect of corporeality, the tangible, experienced world.
The only way it can hope to achieve this is via linguistic detachment, i.e. symbolic negation of all sensual data, and their usurping by an 'esoteric, occult' alternative. It's the triumph of ideal over real, or of mind over body, reflected clearly in every variant of their ideologies. It is also the source of their seductive power, among the masses of desperate, lost, masses.
Increasing detachment, the degradation of identity and detaching the masses from these traditional natural sources of identify increases the numbers of those who are susceptible to the seductive power of the Nihilistic call.

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Man is the only known species that can think of challenging nature, starting with its own, because only in man has self-awareness exposed the breadth and the depth of his own quality in comparison to another.
He is the species that can suffer like no other organism can experience need/suffering, and so displays the most animosity towards natural order.

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When Nihilism detaches mind from body, the ideal from the real, using words, this leaves words in a state of limbo, with no reference.
Nihilism reconnects them with human emotions, and/or to scripture, describing human contrivances, or it reconnects the words/symbols to concepts that apply to organic life.
They replace world with other minds or with ideas that can only exist as language in books, or as ideas in minds.

Words that had meaning, such as 'love' and 'shame' are detached from their original references and are reconnected to their own fabrications.
Example....'love' was detached form its evolutionary functionality and was sanctified, romanticized, and associated with an absolute cocnept, such as a one-god.
This immediately makes it seductive to degenerates, desperate for any kind of relief - even an outlandish lie.

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Spengler calls it the Magian spirit, contrasting it with Classicism, i.e., Hellenism, and the Faustian spirit.
I use its linguistic family grouping to trace its roots back to its emergence, i.e., Afro-Asiacatic.
Nihilism is adopted as a method, by the Magian spirit - the infection corrupting Indo-European man.
words change meaning.
What they call 'spirituality' is the detachment of mind from the body, i.e., the tangible, the corporeal, the physical.
In their mind-set all must be made 'ideological' - this is their conception of 'spirituality' - the exclusive domain of the ambiguity of Mind, as distinct from brain, i.e. its physical source.
For a Magian identity is a noetic construct - a mental fabrication, i.e. an ideology, dogma. It has no genetic rooting. this is why they can sacrifice their genetics and mix with alien bloodlines - See how Abraham urged his wife to become the Pharaoh's mistress - mixing into the host's bloodlines is how they conceal and ensure the survival of the Magian meme.

Idealization of all concepts reduces them to a product to be purchased and sold on the market
All is made into an idea with no external references, including sex, race, identity...god - pure noumenon, identified by a word.
This is their conception of occult, adopting obscurantism to seduce and manipulate the desperate people in every tribe - the lowliest of the low.

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Camus, Albert wrote:
That is the mission of the proletariat: to bring forth supreme dignity from supreme humiliation. Through its suffering and its struggles, it is Christ in human form redeeming the collective sin of alienation. It is, first of all, the multiform bearer of total negation and then the herald of definite affirmation.

The relationship of Marxism and Abrahamism depicts the conversion of spirituality to materialism. An attempt to establish a connection with the real – giving the ideology – the noetic construct – a phenomenal grounding.
A product of, what Spengler would call, a type of spirituality rooted in Magian culture.
The process goes through 'humiliation,' as Camus noted. This is typical of Nihilism – it inverts all concepts into their opposite, essentially negating – annulling – their pragmatic meaning. Pride through humiliation, mirror's Abrahamic inversion methodology - in Christianity it is called 'humility', hiding the underlying compensating arrogance of the dogma behind a semiotic smokescreen.
Abrahamism, at its core is arrogance, over-compensating for a deeper sense of insecurity and vulnerability. It declarers noumena - semiotics, symbols/words - as being more than interpretations and representations of reality; world creating material made of symbols/words with magical powers.
Christians, corrupting the Hellenic concept 'logos,' believe they 'deserve eternal existence,' in a realm where there is only pleasure awaiting to reward them for their humiliating sacrifices – a hedonistic paroxysm – yet, they profess a humility expressing a resentfulness towards the physical – the body; their 'humility' extends only as far as their physical presence, cleansing the mind of its humbling limitations - liberating it from 'evil' - so as to allow the mind to reach the heights of arrogance, in the name of God. This allegorically describes a theoretical sanctification of the mysteriousness of 'mind'.
Marxism takes this and converts it to an urban collectivism – a denouncement of feeble individuality, so as to attain power through association.
The proletariat has to accept its limitations as universal – its enslavement as a universal fact – reducing all diversity to a uniform whole. The collective absorbs the individual's anxieties, compensating for this sacrifice with a collective identity that is free from organic limitations, such as mortality, insecurity, weakness.
The collective is the embodiment of god, in the form of the earthly State – the Church of Jesus, minus the Father, in heaven. Paradise is positing in a possible reality - in a coming future – worshipping this immanence as if it were eternally present - no longer a Paradise in a beyond, but a coming Utopia, in the eternal future, i.e., progress as the forever better coming ideal state; progress, insinuating existential change, as indubitably 'good'.

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The Russians took to Communism because they were primed, after generations of Orthodox Christianity - indoctrinated into the same Magian ethos that connects all Nihilistic ideologies with their spiritual dogmas.
It's not accidental that nihilism emerges there, as a philosophical outlook.

In France, the French Revolution echoes its Catholicism, out of which post-modernity springs, casting aside its Abrahamic garments to stand before mankind as Jesus when he exited the cave - as pure spirit, void of corporeal 'sinfulness'.

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They wonder, in the privacy of their mind, why creativity is dying; why all has become dull and repeating, when it is they who have wounded it, with their romantic all-inclusivity, and their subjective obsessions, denouncing free-expression, as they profess to worship it, out of fear that someone, at some time, somewhere, may be hurt; censoring criticism, accusing it of hate, out of fear of being exposed to critique, revealing how talentless and void of substance they truly are.

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