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PostSubject: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms EmptyWed May 20, 2015 11:39 am

The old saying "Beware of Greeks bearing gifts" must be modified to "Beware of Nihilists using words".

The symptomatology of Nihilism will follow.
It permeates what we call Western Culture, because it has been infected, thousands of years ago, by a mental virus, a memetic pathogen.
The pathogen infest the weakest of the weak, spreading throughout from these vulnerable spots.
It has been called by many names, but the most recent, modern, ones are: Liberalism, Feminism, Marxism, Secular Humanism, and straight out Nihilism.
Past monikers are: Christianity, Monism, Islam, Judaism...the last being the infection point where the virus came into contact with Indo-European, manifested as Hellenism/Pax Romana.    

We begin with a inversion of the current definition of Nihilism as the absence of meaning, purpose, morality.
All these being human constructs, noumena (abstractions), with no reference to anything but back to human abstractions.  
These words are used and abused, precisely because they are entirely human constructs.
There is nothing to limit their application.
With nothing apparent to refer to, they are "free" to describe whatever human abstraction man invents.
In the case of morality the word has been detached from its biological function, as a social behaviour enabling cooperative harmonious coexistence, and has been used as a substitute for the other human construct symbolized by the word "God".

What will follow is a brief, and helpfully concise description of this mental virus which has now become so ingrained in western minds that we can only call it Modern.

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PostSubject: 1 Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms EmptyWed May 20, 2015 11:48 am

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Detachment of symbols, metaphors, words from appearances, the real, the phenomenon.
The practice involves the maintenance of words, representing noetic abstractions, in a state of perpetual limbo.
The mind disconnects the symbol from its reference point, and redirects it back to the mind, which is then shared (hive mind) as a community of the like-minded.
Since a reference point is required to substitutes for the one missing, the mind reconnects the abstraction to an emotion, a lower cognitive process, and then supports its word using animal instinctual criteria, then determining it as involved in higher cognition, or it is enlightened, superior, awakened.

This condition of self-referential looping, is considered an ascent, as it is a breaking away from reality, the world, towards the stratosphere of noetic constructs, no longer constricted by the base, earthly, the phenomenon, the apparent - the world.
The effect is that of expansion, of liberation, an emotional (re)action to the detachment, even if noetically, from an indifferent, harsh, threatening, uncertain world of (inter)activity.
This is called Subjectivity.
It is also given many different other labels, which will be explained in another entry.

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PostSubject: 2 Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms EmptyWed May 20, 2015 11:57 am

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Multiplicity as evidence of freedom.

The modern mind correctly assumes that having more options, is a sign of freedom, but it associates a detachment from reality, which limits options, as the epitome of liberation.
The effect is one of multiplicity, void of content.
Whereas minds referring to reality, are limited by this reality which is not in their wilful control, the Nihilist experiences no such constraint.

It can now use words in almost any way he wants, only limited by the central Scripture of words, the Dictionary, and this because his condition is reliant of community which he must remain within and in constant contact with.
His noetic constructs becomes increasingly fantastic, each generation adding more to the mix.

Because realists cannot and will not detach from reality they presume a conspiracy, or an illness, because for them remaining in agreement with another, for any period of time, is a sign of being brainwashed, given the multiplicity of options available to a mind that is no longer attached to reality, and dismisses it as illusion.
For the Nihilist words are games, toys, to be used and then abandoned for others.
The idea of being limited in this is authoritarian, brutal, enslaving.
Change is how the Nihilist experiences its own detachment form reality, only this time it is not forced by an external world, but is governed by internal whims, tastes, sensations, emotions.

The result in a constantly shifting mix of "individuals" with no sense of self, and no world to discipline them, being easily manipulated by clever minds that can now use emotions and their addiction to remaining free form anything real, to direct their activities.

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PostSubject: 3 Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms EmptyWed May 20, 2015 12:14 pm

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Uninhibited by anything external, anything outside human brains, the Nihilist uses words with he creativity of a child playing with toys.
It's only limit is imposed by a vague Dictionary definition.

This is why abstractions associates with phenomena can be freed from space/time and placed in any sequence, in any place, with the only guiding principle being emotion, or gratification.
The word's meaning is entirely emotive.
It is judged and justified using pleasure/pain criteria, and in relation to a positive emotion: such as love, compassion, hope, freedom, God, immortality etc.

"What feels right is right", as it were, replacing the "might is right" now used as an example of a subjective mind, like their own, imposing their constructs upon others.
At this stage reality has been completely forgotten.
The one challenging their subjective delusions, is automatically someone imposing his subjectivity upon them - authoritarian.
The rule being that the only limiting factor is a Dictionary (or some other word based Scripture, such as Bible, Koran etc.) and the subjectivity of the other.
It is implied that in a community of detached delusional minds the only moral rule is that you do not disturb the other's delusion, and he will not disturb yours.
Debate, conflict is accepted, within limits, but nothing that threatens any subjective delusion will be tolerated.
The practice of debate is only meant to strengthen the bonds that govern this community of detachment, and to reaffirm the "right" to remain as delusional as you wish, if you do not bother the other.
No matter how ridiculous the other's subjectivity is the Nihilist will refrain from exposing his delusion as weak, because this sets him up to be exposed in turn.
Ergo multiplicity is sustained as a symbol of free-thinking - independence meaning free from reality, which most often refers to a determining, immutable past.

The opportunity is taken for the mind to strengthen the detachment from reality, by covering up holes in his mental constructs.
 


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Another general rule governing Nihilistic discourse, is that you never mention what you, or the other, can do nothing about.

This immediately renders most "negative" aspects of reality as non-applicable, or as part of the unmentionables.
To say something honest, objective, about world or other, must be accompanied with a solution to it - a hope.
The majority of what is perceived is not to be spoken, and he who does must benefit from this unseemly, uncivil, practice.

Therefore, nothing too disturbing is ever permitted entry into the Subjective solipsism of the modern.

What remains of the word world is now only what is, and can and ought to be corrected.
All that is permitted to be spoken of will be solved, resolved, turned from negative into positive.

Everywhere the modern looks he sees problems that will be solved.
Even the unknown is made known by giving it a label, a symbol, a word: God, Humanity, Universe, Whole, One.
Baptising it with a word makes it intimate, more certain, less threatening.

And so when the word God is discredited it is replaced with a new word, with the same non-referential, emotional, noetic contrivances: morality, humanity, one, order, and so on.
The unknown, the un-knowable, the absent, is made present as abstraction, as feeling, as dictionary entry, word.




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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms EmptyWed May 20, 2015 12:36 pm

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Another general rule governing Nihilistic discourse, is that you never mention what you, or the other, can do nothing about.

This immediately renders most "negative" aspects of reality as non-applicable, or as part of the unmentionables.
To say something honest, objective, about world or other, must be accompanied with a solution to it - a hope.



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In the either/or dichotomy of simplistic binary logic, what even animals are capable of, the dilemmas arise, and the solutions presents themselves as emotional appeals, and moral options.

The Nihilist taking the only thing he can understand, his own absolutes, his own emotions, and simplicity as a guiding light, assumes that whenever a superior probability is presented it is an expression of an absolute certainty, or of an omniscient truth.

This is also a defensive method, dismissing all superior perspectives on the ground that they are not absolute truths, or accusing them of proposing an absolute truth which is indefensible.
Now their own simplicity can hide behind the common ground of imperfection, for that which is not perfect must be equal.
Either/Or.
With no omniscience, no God, all is relative.
Degrees vanish in relation to a fluctuating world.
All is either/or, and since what is left is nil, then some settle for nil, while the majority, of the more hypocritical kind of Nihilist, settle for emotional justifications - in the absence of absolute knowledge, the deciding factor are emotional.,
Here, because emotions are shared, common, base, all find congruence in the lowest-common-denominator or they are monsters with evil intents.  

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Words are central to the nihilist's psychology.
They are the vehicles of his escape from the base, for him, the earthly, the worldly, the real.
They are sacred, divine, magical, because they do not have to refer to anything outside his own mind, or the minds of those with whom he shares a vocabulary and an agenda.

With words he can dismiss the past/nature, he can reinvent humanity, baptise himself by another term, find justice in an an cruel world, find confidence through association - a community of shared linguistics.

The nihilists will detach the word from its reference point or he will slander words altogether, denying them relevance for all minds, for all time.
He will have no trouble comprehending nihilists like himself, but then will feign an inability to comprehend words when they are attaching to the apparent.  

Words are the noetic floating systems he uses to stay adrift in the tumultuous seas of (inter)activity...up there on the surface, hoping no wave will drown him, because he never learned to swim, but only learned how to float...and even floating is given to him, as words with no depth, no substance, no connection to the abyss.  

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It is because the nihilist is a self-deluded hypocrite, that he can only comprehend those that challenge his delusions as such.
It is because he dreams of changing the world, if not to escape it, that he can only comprehend others as wishing to change reality, to challenge what is, and not only as those who wish to confront human lies, and to challenge nihilism.

It is because the nihilist is part of a cult of shared self-hate, world-hatred, expressed for the reason already given, in multiple ways, that he can only comprehend those who see reality as it is, as cult members.
It is because he is ill, and feels insecure, and lost, that he can only relate to others on that level.

The nihilist abhors value judgement, in relation to a goal, an object/objective, not of his kind.
This is why he must reduce the objective to an emotion, an appeal to a shared weakness.
God, as universal Truth/love, is shape-shifted to Objective Morality, with good/bad, standing in for God/Satan.
All must refer to this emotional human construct.
To go outside of it, into objectivity, is to place this coward in unknown waters - which must be given a name he can relate to.

Objectivity ceases to be about world, outside human words, hopes, emotions, and is returned back to the familiar territory of mind, noumenon, abstraction.
He can only relate to world through others, and this other is usually some famous figure.  

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Using others as supportive elements is another Nihilist tendency.
The quickness in referencing credentials, to schooling, trying to impress, or to imply that he knows what he is talking about because he refers to "great" minds, is a symptom of insecurity, because no matter what the Nihilist intuitively senses his own condition.

And so "intellectual discourse", or dialogue, becomes a posturing based on knowing, and on parroting others, and not about personal conceptions about a world all have access to.
The implied elitism, of being part of the few who have access to profound knowledge, contradicts their egalitarian, democratic ethos.
The insinuation is that if you are "trained" sufficiently, infused with the proper understanding of what others said, and told why they said it, in accordance with cultural norms, you can be respected.
The obsession with education, and with reciting knowledge, acquired through second-hand sources, is an indication of a personal failing - ether stupidity, or cowardice in seeing what is always in front of you; requiring no proxy.

Deferring to an authority, if not God then to some famous rich individual which becomes a shared icon, is a way of escaping the natural selection process.
When the mind cannot take responsibility for itself, and feels that it is not up to par, it seeks out a icon to hide behind and to find confidence in.
The proxy is also a potential scapegoat.

If this icon proves to be weak, then he is discarded, and so changing your mind about everything, indicates a reliance on others (power in association), and it also indicated poor judgement.


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Bragging, posturing, inflated egos while ego is denied...

The quickness in which a Modern Nihilist tells you, using words, what he wishes you to believe about him, indicates the reverse of the intended.
It is always the one who will name-drop, will brag about how much he gets laid, how much money he has, what schooling he has, how happy he is, whom he knows, that is the one who is desperate to hide his innate inferiority.

When stressed the fall-back defensive position symbolizes a retreat.
As always words, symbols, references to other minds, is how the Nihilist escapes, or tries to escape the reality of what he is, in relation to world.
Words, once more, come to the rescue, for he can claim whatever he wishes using words, which refer to nothing real, as in behaviour, (inter)action, appearance, apparent.

Using the word "happy" for example, implies what the individual wishes to plant into the other mind as a possibility.
Repeating the word reaffirms it, and the individual hopes the word will root itself in the others mind as a judgement about him.

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Sometimes wanting to discredit them even as tools, and at other times worship them as saviours.
Words are all a nihilist has, since he no longer wants, or cannot, see, and hear, and feel the world directly, but only experience it through proxies.
Because all is via a proxy, all must be increased in volume in sensation, to make him feel something vicariously.
He sacrifices pleasure, at times, just to avoid pain.
Words have the power to make or break him, because he is completely given over to their power.
The magical escape also makes him vulnerable to manipulation, by those who understand what words are: tools.



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The central common them, shared by all nihilists, no matter what method, what words, they use, is a desire to detach from past/nature, and pretend that it no longer applies nor affects them in the present.

World-Hatred often exposing a self-hatred, a disappointment with self as it relates to others, and to the world, is what these nihilists share, no matter what multiplicity of methods they use to detach and discredit and dismiss.
This denouncement of sex, race, of nature, as the sum of all past nurturing, and the hyperinflation of the nurture, the social influence, exposes them as what they are.
The idea(l) that everything from sex (gender) to race, and from homosexuality (sexual mutation, dysfunction) to stupidity (learning disorder), are socially produced is part of this idea that all that nature has rendered can be corrected by the interventions of man - and this will not produce a need for further interventions to deal with the collateral effects of the previous ones.

A highly romantic idea(l).

This is sometimes accompanied with a cynical fatalism as in "It will all turn out for the better", or "It's all part of a bigger plan" abandonment to human consults.
The inability to differentiate natural from artificial where world of man is confused for the world itself.
Confusion between the mathematical/geometric method of human cognition with a universal plan, a hidden logic, a reason.
Fatalism as in the faith in this belief, and how it is directed by some underlying will, some reason, some consciousness, some order.


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Confusion between world of man and world itself, where one is but a part of the other, is what underlies this cocooning, matrix-like, subjectivity - this confidence ion words, numbers, symbols.
Responsibility is abandoned. The external other will take care, and all will become as it must.

Man intervenes upon natural processes, creates all sort of collateral effects, encases himself in a symbolic world of his own making, enslaves others to this reference point, and then dreams that in the end nature will clean things up.

no integrity, no honour, no accountability.
The motive here is living a life in ignorant bliss, and the future can take care of itself.
disconnecting from past, tradition, inheritance, is what creates this me-me, individuality.
a shallow birth to death identity, earmarked by consuming, pleasuring; masturbation of mind and body.

What do lies matter when you die and you hold yourself accountable to nothing and nobody?
All that matters is fooling as many who are alive along with you, as possible : pride of the degenerate.

Eat, drink, fuck, pleasure yourself in any which way, consume and be consumed, use any orifice for any deed, and then die knowing you were not judged and could not be judged by anyone, at any time, for any reason.
Nobody knew you, or could ever understand your complexity.




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One of the nihilist's favourite lies is how complex humanity is, and in particular how complex he is.
He may think all is knowable, but this all never includes him.
He may claim to know a dog better than it knows itself but this never applies to him, in relation to a higher mind.

He cannot be accurately understood, valued, known, unless he tells you himself.
He is true to his own word, because words are magical, mystical and he controls them.
Nobody can judge him, because there is no standard which applies to him...all being subjective standards, he thinks.
No matter what he does, how he behaves, what choices he makes, nothing matters, and all is correctable.
Nothing is determined by the immutable past, forever condemning him to repeat these behaviours, and choices.

He is his own standard.
This is the basic principle of nihilism, with only the golden Rule, the social contract, as the limit.
All is morally maintained.
A Christian threat/promise.

It bleeds over to feminism and the idea that females are complicated, incomprehensible to men....they exists on another plain, a different planet.
this is how female nihilists, modern women, comfort themselves when they behave in contradiction to their social memetic norms, and in accordance to their natural instinctual proclivities.

Why do they change their minds constantly, why do they contradict their words with their actions, why do they do the things they do...nobody knows, nobody can know, they are genius, they are governed by a mysterious logic.



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Victim psychology is the emotional string binding all nihilists into one cohesive group.
There are many shared identifiers, masked as multiplicity and the many ways the real is avoided and escaped, and victim psychology is one of the central themes in their mindset.

First, they are victims of chance, of the world, born as this sex, or that race, born in this situation and that circumstance, born of a past that they do not like nor feel proud of.
If not of the world then they are victim of another, a will outside themselves.

And for this reason, all who expose them to a world that challenges their delusions is the v one victimizing them.
Because all is subjective, in their minds, even evil, immorality, the indifferent unjust world, is also a subjective construct, and they the victim of an evil mind.

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Nihilism or any degree of it, is only viable when there is a protective umbrella, a cocooning will, to protect it from the repercussions of denying, ignoring, dismissing reality.
The natural consequence of any level of detachment from reality is death, or some severe cost.

The only way it can persist and multiply, is because there is an ulterior motive for preserving it.
The only ulterior motive is because of Nihilism delusion and its vulnerability and dependence upon others, to maintain itself.
It is a mental virus propagated and maintained through weakness, dependence, inferiority...which is the majority vote.

The "Might is Right" is exposed as belong "Right is Might" and those seeing clearly honestly, have an advantage over those that hide, forget, deny, reject a world they cannot escape.
As always, nihilism inverts concepts.
It presumes that it is because some subjective mind says so that it is subjugated to a world being exposed by such a mind.
It presumes that only hypnosis, trickery, rhetoric, is at play, because for it only words have substance and are real.

It confuses success, dominance, based on clarity, honesty, objectivity, for a imposition of subjectivity, because it requires a mind to direct it, to tell it, to lead it.
He who sees the world as it is, and not as he wishes it were, will succeed within it.
He who is blind to it will accuse the first of being a manipulator, because he denies objectivity so he can only understand dominance subjectively.
In the nihilist's mind the individual decides what is objective, and so objectivity for it is a subjective construct.

It cannot understand a world outside human opinions, determining if these opinions are more, or less accurate.

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One of the first presumptions of the nihilist, one based on all that has already been mentioned, is that all deserves respect, or all is worthy of consideration.
It's logic follows from the either/or foundation - no absolute means all is ignorant, in equal degree, because there is no objective way to determine what is more objective and what is less so - no hierarchies.

The absolute serves two functions: 1] it provides an external logos, an authority, to subjugate all subjectivities to - equality nuder a one God, a one specialist, a one mind, and 2] in the absence of said absolute external source of authority all are uniformly ignorant, the negative becoming a unifying negative.

No other way to decide is ever explored and accepted.
This is why objective reality must be ridiculed or converted into something they can dismiss as subjective or as a human construct.
Essentially, no matter what you say it is to be taken seriously or as seriously as anything anybody says, and this is most effective when what is said is about something the Nihilist feels insecure about, such as the injustice and cruelty of nature, or the immutability of the past.
to not abide by this parity of deservedness is an aggressive act.
The only deciding factor is majority vote, or some popularly accepted authority figure, which has ceased to be the god-head.
In other word, only via a proxy mind, is the subjective evaluated as superior-inferior, since the objective world cannot be evaluated directly, without discovering how indifferent to subjective interpretation and cruel, unforgiving, it is.

Basic things like the evolutionary function of the orifices, and of the sex organs, and how appearances indicate essence, are dismissed on the grounds that no authority has validated this, and there is no real absolute way to determine what is most probable.
In other words, the nihilist chooses to ignore his own sense if this protects him from a disturbing perception.

The matter of complexity enters the scene when the mounting evidence tilts the balance in a direction which the Nihilists does not like.
Now all is too complex to decide.
This is particularly so when it comes to humans.
Nihilist logic indicates that if there is no absolute certainty then all possibilities are equally valid, escaping the obvious.
Once more, more probable versus less probable is dismissed in favour of parity through shared ignorance, or using the negative as an argument for the positive.
Christians claim that in the absence of no evidence disproving their God then all possibilities are open, which then gives credence to the emotional angle, turning it into the decisive component.



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The nihilist contains his thinking within cultural and social realities. He cannot explore further back, discovering from where memes emerge, and how genes manifest as memes, then expressed as principles, ideals, morals, world-views.

For modern all must be the product of a reason, a will, a human motive, and nothing pre-existed the emergence of social and economic systems. This is also part of the inversion. Where memes emerge from genes, in their convoluted minds, the reverse is the case.
All genetics is the products of memes, of socio-economic artifices, and human interventions.
Ergo all is noetic, as in founded on human prejudices, requiring an external god, authority, to validate them.
Millions of years of evolution ignored for the last 2-3 thousands years of human culture.
Therefore, for nihilist’s gender is a human fabrication, having no connection to sexual roles, as these evolved to facilitate reproduction.
This connects to the logic that all orifices are human playthings to be used in whatever way the individual wishes, having to predetermined genetic function and reason for evolving.
And if gender is a human artifice, a social construct, then so is sex, and why not race, and appearance in general. Now that man can intervene technologically, with techniques, upon the manifestation of thousands of years of evolution, covering them up, nothing is except from human covering-up and correcting.
And when such a mind, raised in sheltering environment, is never made to face the consequences of his own stupidity, he becomes cocky, dismissing suffering, need, war, violence, all that troubles and confronts his ideal world, his desirable reality.
He then accuses others of wanting to change the world, when he's already done so, and is now attempting to complete the task by replacing reality with human artifices.
Unable to complete the task he suffers from the pains of an evil world contradicting his naive premises.
Then the dilemma arises.
 


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The Nihilist despises every attempt to connect words, to appearances, particularly when dealing with humans.
The attempt itself is ridiculed, because he denies the existence of an objective world which would connect the subjective via a symbol a word.
For instance, gender becomes entirely a human construct, and has no reference to anything outside human brains, and human social conventions.
The discipline of philosophy is about referencing other minds, essentially a discussion about philosophy, and not the world itself, which is rejected as being accessible or approachable.
Also the word "truth" referring to a more accurate description of the real is made into an entirely subjective absolute that can only be imposed and accepted on faith.
To connect the symbol, the abstraction, to a source, the noumenon to the phenomenon, would take away their central method of escape.
First comes the word, and it is the alpha and the omega.
The word is no longer a tool for dealing with the world but a toy, a ploy, a way of dismissing the world by reattaching the symbol the abstraction back to other noetic artifices.
The mission for the nihilist is to retain the word as an abstraction, a human construct, with no reference to anything outside human minds, because only then can he claim that gender, race, as social inventions, and truth, if it is not absolute, is untrue, and so a democratic decision is required, and only then can male/female cease to have any meaning outside social fashions, and only then can the concept "human" be stripped of its original meaning and become a mystical, magical, idea(l), embracing and saving all who are included within its bosom.
The word "philosophy" is of particular interest for us, because its objective has ceased to be clarity about world, or objectivity, which can then result in wisdom, clarity, a useful application, but it has become a discussion about philosophy - philosophy is talk about philosophy, or philosophers, as the subjective mind can only recognize other subjective minds.
As such, any perspective that challenges this delusion is considered aggressive, or based on purely subjective criteria, such as "I say so".
The idea that an opinion, expressing a perspective, is more or less accurate, more or less objective, based on the apparent, the phenomenon, and the indifferent to all subjective perspectives, world of (inter)activity is dismissed so as to maintain the all is subjective universe.
Even the word "world" has come to refer to the human world, and in relation to human constructs.
World now means humanity, and humanity means world. Not humanity as a species, a pattern, within the world, by humanity AS the world.
Gender being now explained as entirely a human artifice, but nothing else, such as morality, or love, or compassion.
Nihilists are selective as to which words are mystical, profound abstractions and which are evil abstractions easily rejected from human discourse.
Words like love, empathy, respect, sex, race, are not permitted to be connected to anything but back to human noumena.
Empiricism has a limit.

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An interesting by-product of all of this comes about in time.
The Nihilist begins to believe that denouncing the one who exposes them to an objective world, or a subjective interpretation of world which is more lucid, can protect him from what is being described.
This would be like ridiculing the one who claims death is the end and there is no afterlife because this will ensure an afterlife.
It agrees with the notion that all it takes to change the world is to change your mind.

The belief rest on all that has been mentioned, and it has faith in the assumption that if what is being said about the objective world is rejected, ignored, dismissed, that this is an escape from what was being described.
Kill the messenger and the message is dead, but what if the message was accurate?
Have they dealt with reality by slandering the one who exposes them to it?
Sheltering ensures that the immediate effects of being wrong are never experienced as severely, because of the cocooning within humanity, these nihilists fight to preserve, for good reason.
Only within the bosom of a multiplicity of like-minded individuals can the singular person escape the costs and risks of being wrong.
We call this the social safety net.
Every careless, stupid choice, is protected from its own stupidity, propagating the delusion that all perspectives, superior/inferior, are equal, or that the consequences are so minimal as to make the inferior mind arrogant.
Like when a teenager lives under his parent's roof and because he has it easy begins to believe he deserves it, and that it is because of his qualities.
How many times have you heard a female say she intimidates men?
She confuses fear of the institution that is protecting her for fear of her, because of her spirit, her mind etc.

Consider the arrogance of a simpleton who has memorized a few word, references, data, deferring to famous figures or obscure ones to imply a unique understanding, believing that this is philosophy.
This is like an art critique, an art historian, confusing his knowledge for artistry, and including himself amongst the artists he knows by name.
 

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The importance of words for the nihilist is evident in his desperation to use them to insinuate what he cannot display.
He is quick to accuse the other of what he is most guilty of, he brags, and declares himself victor, trying to implant, with words, what he fears he cannot with deeds.

He never says anything clearly and honestly.
He is always insinuating, laying down an escape route as he slowly creeps forward with words.
He never takes a position. He is always flattering, fawning, implying this and that, at the same time, remaining aloof, and imprecise so that he can never be exposed without him having a plausible deniability.
It is why he talks through proxies.
He is always of two-minds, or more, uncertain sceptical to a cynical degree, insecure and desperate to not lose face.

Humour is how he evades the discomfort of his nature.
A quick, stress releasing, evasion.
He is always potentially joking, or is he being serious?
Depends on the reaction of the other.
He is always joking, or is he?
Nothing is direct and honest about him. He is a hypocrite and a lair, protecting a weak, fragile ego, from the devastating determinations of nature.

This he calls his complexity.
Nobody can know him can ever see him - he alludes the experts, he mesmerizer all.
He is a mystery wrapped in an enigma, sprinkled with fairy dust.
No category can define him.
Words are toys, and he plays.
The objective is childish escape from the real.
His entire life is a testament to the devastation of this adolescent method.

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When the nihilist speaks he speaks about noumena, abstractions, that only exist in human minds, such as equality, justice, morality, fairness, similarity, one/nil, whole, God and so on.
For these concepts thee is no external reference.
They exist through sharing, memetic propagation, and are maintained through cultural rules, ideals, traditions, common value standards.

This is why he presumes that all talk about an objective world as outside and indifferent to these human constructs, that what is being discussed in another abstraction with no external reference.
It is because he bases his delusions on "I say so" then supported in "We say so" that he assumes that all perspectives are a declarative "I, or we, say so".
The difference between the two, in his mind, the only difference, is popularity. The quantitative difference in the "we" determines which "we" is validated, and all other standards, particularly those independent from quantitative standards, are to be discounted as evil, or authoritarian.
In such a case, the existence or not of Allah is entirely dependent no how many can be converted to Islam, and whether a child born with mental/physical dysfunctions is to be considered good or bad is a matter of popular support.
This is why he desperately seeks communal approval and he strives to impress the majority, thinking that this has an effect on what is real.

This is why connecting the abstractions that can be connected to phenomena, and ignoring those that only have a reference back to other noetic constructs, causes him distress.
He loses control over good/bad, and their manipulation using emotional techniques.

This is the Bottom-Up thinking which he contradicts with a Top-Down inversion, claiming that both are the same.
From the vantage point of one who is interested in approaching the objective, and avoiding the corruption of subjectivity, as much as possible, all words, symbolizing abstraction, have to be connected to a world independent from all interpretations of it, and those abstractions (noumena) which cannot find such a reference point should be exposed as being pure noetic metaphors, referring back to human abstractions.
Who and what is superior in nature is never in doubt, it is only within Nihilistic social systems protecting weakness, where things become confusing, and are open for debate and verbal acrobatics, including evasion.
The Nihilist can never and will never define his words, or try to connect them to perceived phenomena, because it is precisely that he does not, training them as vague dictionary references with no connection to the real, where he feels independent, strong, clever....safe.
He remains elusive, sceptical, cynical, never taking a stand on anything, never wanting to be clear and direct, always feigning and evading and changing his angles,keeping open as many escape routes as possible.


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For the Nihilist, the modern, good/bad, positive/negative, can only have a subjective meaning.
It is only in relation to human needs, hopes, fears, emotions, that these terms have a meaning, in his mind.
But not in relation to an object/objective, because we also strives for a communal agreement, a universal good/bad, which is so because universe, world automatically means humanity.

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] can never, and should never be defined independent from human needs.
And so all becomes a moral issue.
The words are disconnected from pragmatism, from a motive, a particular need, and universalized as in a shared human need, a shared human motive, a shared human idea(l) which is never clarified because this will expose its motives, its essence.
Remember, for him world=humanity. The shared good/bad is a Super-Subjective reality, independent of the objective world.
Within this shared subjective the rules of existence, can be altered with a political decision.
Killing can be good, and then later it can be bad.
Paedophilia can be bad today and later, years later, it may become good - see homosexuality.
Male/Female may have meaning yesterday and tomorrow they be debunked, redefined, dismissed.
Everything is malleable within the Super-Subjective or what I've called the SuperOrganic. More so if this SuperOrganic promoted Nihilism internally, to control through uniformity, and contradicts it externally.
All organisms, individuals, included are expected to toy the line and agree with the basic truths necessary to maintain internal harmony.
After evolution integrates the individual as a cell is integrated into an organic structure, the conception of world is dominated by SuperOrganic constructs. this was metaphorically displayed in the movie The Matrix.
For such a cell there is no world outside the organic hierarchies and relationships.
All is organic and all follows the rules the SuperOrganism enforces.
The only distinction within this paradigm is utility, as in more or less useful and more or less harmonious.

What the cell was before it was integrated no longer applies and in time is forgotten.
This is why past is always dismissed, forgotten, denied, and why all words can only refer to noetic artifices. There is no world outside the SuperOrganism within which the organism, the cell, finds power, comfort, utility, safety, meaning, purpose.
SuperOrganism is God, and if God is dead a new SuperOrganism must quickly replace Him.
The cell is unable to give itself meaning, purpose, direction - it entirely dependent, and can no longer function outside the SuperOrganic premises.
Defending the SuperOrganic rules, principles, order, is a matter of survival for it.

SuperOrganism = society, culture, socio-economic system - meme.
The genetic has been absorbed into the meme. It has surrendered will, identity, independence, for the sake of survival, and the advantages of synergy - power through association.
Notice that for the nihilist his well-being, his sense of self and his self-evaluation is always a product of other, as in majority, popularity, communal appreciation.

It's particular subjectivity is associated with the SuperSubjectivity.
The world outside, as in objective world independent from subjectivity altogether, is non-existent....and/or evil.

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The Nihilist reduces the topic, the issue, philosophy in general, down to the absurd and then dismisses it as absurd, so as to hide his own intent and his own absurdity.

He creates decay and then uses it to justify his own decay.
To put it more bluntly, he indulges in simplicity and stupidity, and then accuses that which he has reduced to this level of being nothing more than absurd and stupid.
To put it in yet another way, the Modern reduces all to word-games, and then denounces it as only word-play, including all attempts to connect the words being used to what is independent from words.

The cynical motive of the pseudo-intellectual, hedonistic, Modern: by all means hide inferiority.
Find the lowest-common-denominator and build a castle upon it, inviting all to settle down.  

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Another example of Nihilistic inverted thinking...

The Modern variant of this mental dis-ease, confuses emoting, emotionally based reasoning, thinking infected with emotional appeals and considerations, with passion, and the passionate defence of objective reasoning.
In his pretentious psyche, to pretend you are aloof, and distant, and cynical, indicates a cold reasoning, which must, obviously, be accompanied with the benefit of the doubt towards every absurdity presented before him as deserving consideration, and respect.

This is almost as insane as their confusion of knowledge with understanding.
Most cannot tell the difference.
It is why they scavenge books and internet spaces for data to present as evidence of their intelligence and quality of mind.
It is also why amongst Modern education, or the correct kind of training, is synonymous with equalizing intelligence, and why credentials ans social status is so important when trying to impress them.
He has no other way of determining quality than quantity.
Without an external authority he is unable to say what is more reasonable and what is absurd.

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For the Nihilist his theories are meant for an ideal creature, existing in an ideal world and an ideal universe.
His perspectives are applicable not in the real, but in the surreal, the supra-real, and not in the natural but in the realm of the super-natural.

Once disappointed, and having awakened to his own naivete, if he ever does, the only other solution is the opposite.

If not the ideal then nothing.
Either/Or.

If no absolute is possible then the nil is all he has.
No gradation.
Absolute 1 and 0.

What can be worse, for him, than a hierarchy where he finds himself at the bottom?
If all cannot find Utopia then all, we all, must be in Dystopia, or if not Paradise where he is also included, then all must be damned to hell.


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For the nihilist math is not another language, using abstractions. the most abstract language of all is not to be doubted, mostly because it produces techniques and technologies it considers positive.
Yet, he cannot define what one or nil are, nor point to a one or a nil.

It has no ability to comprehend the relationship between an abstraction (noumenon) and the real (phenomenon), or how a static symbol can adequately represent a fluctuating world.

All it knows is that experts, his replacement priests, use these symbols to produce magic.

How science might be directed through funding, when dealing with the socially touchy subjects, is not to be taken into consideration.
All it knows is that 1+1=2, always....when 1 is taken for granted.

Binary brains exporting their dualism imitating organic processes.
Self-referential logic, based on biological methods, replicating biological organs
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On the lower end of the Nihilistic spectrum we have the absolutists, the either/or fundamentalists with their binary logic and their dualistic certainties.

On the upper end we have the terminally sceptical, the unable to decide between either/or, preferring the continuous state of undecided procrastination.

The first, being the more infantile, live in a black/white world and they conveniently have decided that the truth, as they define it, is on their side - the universe has them as the central theme.
The second are eternally cynical so as to never take a stand.
Everything has its positives and its negatives and they are reluctant to say which is more on the positive side and which is on the negative side.
The concepts of positive/negative fitting conveniently to the previous group's good/evil, with humanity being the core, the balancing point for the entire cosmos.

The first are fanatics, and they quickly fall back to reciting the code, as they have learned it.
They identify with WE.
They are always safe within the collective, the herd, the big SueprOrganic Other, the Divine Self.
They accept responsibility through other.

The second are hypocrites, sometimes on this side, then on the other, never actually saying anything directly, clearly, succinctly, indubitably.
They are always on the side of ME, and being on that side, the easiest side to be on, they switch sides, they change their minds, they never expose themselves to the possibility of hurt, and ridicule, and shame.
They are always safe inside themselves.
They never accept responsibility for anything.
They are always unseen, able to escape detection, nobody has or can ever know them, unable to hold onto ideals not pertaining to their ego.
They consider themselves open-minded because they never decide, and are continuously open to suggestions, which they then de-construct to dismiss, in the event that things become too threatening.
They find pride in being liked by everyone, simply by agreeing with whatever they say.
This is clever, for them: to trick without detection, by telling the other exactly what he wants to hear.



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The Nihilist exists in a reality that only exists as a hypothetical future world, or some hidden world, or a Utopian world populated by ideal humans and ideal creatures with psychologies and behaviors not of this world.

It is the syndrome of Christianity, and Communism, two of the many offspring Nihilism gave birth to.
The christian and communist fails, (is a sinner, has not been educated/trained sufficiently yet, is unenlightened, has not received the divine light) but the ideal is perfect, meant for perfect creatures constructing a perfect reality.

Philosophy becomes a defense of this perfect Utopia against the evil forces of reality that disrupt its development.
Instead of being the discipline that explores and describes the world as honestly and clearly as possible so that then THEN, a human can chart a course, philosophy has become a infantile exploration of the fantastic, the hypothetical, the "what if"and the hidden underneath this brutality this hated by them, world.
As I noted before, the deal is that you will not disturb the delusions of the other and he will not disturb yours, enabling all to exist in their own personal reality.
THIS is what is called subjectivity and why it is so popular among them. This is why perspectivism is a Holy Grail for them, and why an Objective world, other than the one authorized experts offer them, cleaned of anything that may be not politically-correct, and insulting, is attacked as a fabrication.

Only an authorized expert is to be respected as a proxy between them and reality, not only telling them what they sense but what it means.
And my authorized what is meant is that he has been vetted as offering the right kind of analysis.
Many examples of scientists who have not repeated the shared myths and faced personal consequences are available to all.
No man would risk his career, and his family's well-being by saying anything honest about the holy trinity of Modernity: homosexuality, women, and race.
The first has been taken of the list of psychological dysfunctions where it stood for decades.
In a few decades transsexuals, perhaps even pedophiles can hope for such generosity.


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