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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Tue Jun 20, 2017 5:58 pm

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]to represent, in real-time, in the real world, an example of the symptoms I describe in this thread.

Nihilists having conveniently detached form a threatening, unyielding, uncompromising, world, find themselves in limbo, if they are protected to not suffer the natural consequences of such detachments.
Other examples displaying variations of this extreme example are Iakob, and shit-Stain, on ILP.

Having rejected the phenomenal world, objectivity as a standard, they have nothing to evaluate their own judgments.
Refusing to deal with a reality that they find deplorable and frightening, their only option is other humans.
Philosophy, for them, becomes politics, or the discipline which manipulates the masses to control and direct their beliefs.
Psychology is essential, but not all have a talent, for it.
All they have is a feminine intuition, a gut feeling, which they cannot rationalize, unless they find an external authority, like a well-known psychologist, or astrology, or some intellectual with insights into human nature, like Nietzsche.
Feminine minds feel, they judge intuitively, but they cannot clarify, so they need a masculine external authority to give their sensations form.
We can include young boys, or young men, who have yet to mature into adult manhood - I call these men-children.
Those who have passed the age of ascent into manhood and still remain adolescent, having not gone through the rite of ascent, or lacking a strong father figure of their won, seek it outside their family tree, or their immediate environment.
Such males, if they pass the age of thirty, remain stunted for their entire lives - forever dependent on other males to direct and clarify their sensations.

How would such minds validate their feelings, judgments, if not through popularity, the support and acknowledgment of the masses.
They cannot validate their judgments using the world, directly, so they substitute the world with humanity...therefore world = humanity.
Now they judge the quality of their judgments not by their application or the amount of references they have to the external world, but by how many are convinced....because they can never be wrong, their judgments having no direct life and death costs, they can tell themselves that they are undiscovered, or unappreciated genius', or that the world is not ready for their 'truth'.

The more humble majority do, actually, change their positions based on how others react to them, or how many agree or disagree, but the few narcissistic ones, troubled by a deeper ache, will never question their positions, but only the quality of the other minds that do not see the 'truth' in them.
Both will not use world as a sounding board, or a standard to evaluate and alter their judgments, and after a certain amount of time and effort being invested in them, they will never doubt the ideas, even when the majority show no appreciation of them.
In this case they will postpone validation to a future time.
Like Paradise is brought down to earth, and then projected into the future, as a immanent Utopia, that never arrives and so is never proven wrong, they will use humanity, as a substitute for world, and then project this validating humanity into a future time and place.

Humanity in the present is not ready, or not good enough, to judge their positions, so they postpone judgment indefinitely, refusing to use the world that is all around them, beyond their social constructs, and populist seductions, to test them and, if need be, to adjust them.
These narcissist will turn inward for comfort, or will find a few sycophants to inflate their ego.
Their judgments have no reference outside their minds, and the minds of those they dominate and control, but hope is never lost, because those few yes-men, followers, are evidence that one day humanity, in other words the 'world', will validate their beliefs.

In a simpleton like cAnus this is expressed by her obsession with popularity, and Democratic votes.
In more complicated specimens like shit-Stain, this is expressed with an obsession with his image - how he is perceived.
In more duplicitous specimens, like Iakob, this is expressed in an undying desire to impress, to be acknowledged, valued.
There are multiple variants of this nihilistic psychosis.
Transexuality is obsessed with being acknowledged by society as legitimate, because nature contradicts their identity.
With no external validation their only choice is to seek it in humanity.

What they mean by 'humanity is not ready' is that world is not ready for the description of it to be validated.
Though the world contradicts them, this will not make them doubt themselves....Will to Power is how they understood this Nietzschean urging.
Whether it is real or not, they shall will it into existence, using words, using humanity as a proxy.
One day when the right humanity is born, they will make their words real.
Humanity becomes a standard replacing world, and because humanity can, and has intervened and imposed its will upon reality, then through their agency they will impose their Will upon the world.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Tue Jun 20, 2017 8:07 pm

Psychologically replacing world, as (inter)acting phenomena, such as patterned and non-patterned energies, with world as humanity and relationships, make of philosophy a performance art to be judged by how convincing, entertaining, inspiring, emotionally stimulating and pleasant it is.
Humanity is the all-encompassing motherly womb, the panpsychic, all-encompassing rational awareness.  
Will the audience i.e. the world, applaud, or boo, validating or rejecting the performance?
Will the performance artist find validation in shocking the audience, or will he find it in seducing it?

Words are how the artist, now calling himself philosopher, engages the audience, calling it world.
He is empowered or enfeebled by their reactions.

The pseudo-philosopher and second-rate artist, no longer cares about objective reality. He only cares about the subjective feedback of the audience, who are now his entire world.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Wed Jun 21, 2017 1:26 pm

Ignoring Gradations
For the degenerate, the exception to a rule, the minority, is either good enough to dismiss the rule, the majority, or good enough to accept the exception, the minority.

Always siding with the victims it identifies with, even when it becomes part of a majority, resulting in what has been called the Jewish Paradox.
The "paradox" is just an easy way to insinuate that for a nihilist, lying is part of his 'truth' and weakness is part of his 'power'.

Nihilists have adopted beta-male, memetic tactics, to compensate for their inherited, genetic, inadequacies: quantities is where they draw sustenance, empowerment, from, and they always have a reliable and increasing pool of "empowering" masses.
What have they, without this?
What are they, without this?

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Wed Jun 28, 2017 7:54 pm

Deceit is the first step towards nihilism.
Placing survival above all else, including clarity, corrupts reason - degenerating the human spirit to the level of organic living, for the sake of living; existing for the sake of existing.
Man reducing himself to animal.
Deceit, over time, becomes convincing.  
The liar, believes in his own lies, if he's repeated them enough times, and he's received positive feedback.
He becomes addicted to deceiving others, to receive this validation of his own self-deceiving lies.

Nihilists need others for this reason alone.
They would not believe in their own lies if there were not others needy enough, like them, to be convinced, or to pretend to be - to buy into the deceit.
Inter-Subjectivity is inter-dependent.

The only thing excluded is the world itself, because it cannot be deceived, nor can it pretend to.
By world the modern always means other humans, attempting to expand this to include all life, or, if bold and creative in his description, to include all matter/energy.
It's the only way these degenerates understand Will to Power.
They have to synthesize Nietzsche and Spinoza, or Judaism and Paganism, through the Hellenes.



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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Thu Jun 29, 2017 8:09 am

The destruction of a nihilistic pacifier, produces anxiety in the ones who has depended on it to remain sane, and to cope with existence. Like a child who is denied its pacifier.
The one who took it away becomes a god-like figure, similar to how Nietzsche took away Christianity from many desperate, lost souls, controverting him into a demon, or a god.
Those suffering the loss turned towards him with rage, or in adulation, hoping to replace their lost dogma with him; the lost word of the Bible, with his aphorisms, his opus of wisdom.
They replaced Jesus with Nietzsche, because before him they were devout and faithful.
They needed a substitution for what he took away - turning to the maternal Judaism, to soften Hellenic paternal aggression.
How would they integrate the masculine within the feminine they identified with, and has originally brought them to Abrahamism, and then to its secularized forms?

Before Nietzsche they had no connection to anything pre-Socratic, or Aryan.
He was their first 'reality check'...and they could never forget their first contact with the masculine , like no woman forget her first time with a man.
Though Nietzsche updated what had been around for thousands of years, diagnosing Moderns by using ancient wisdom, those who had no knowledge of this past imprinted on Nietzsche, as the source, the conduit through which they were awakened to what, for them, as devastating, new, profound....like a chick imprints on the first organism it sees when ti cracks through the eggshell.
It then follows that organism around, like it would its own parent, its own god, though it may not be of its own species.


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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Fri Jun 30, 2017 7:00 am

It is in the female where the conflict between order and chaos is more pronounced.
She, as organism, values order, but as an agency of nature she has to channel the more powerful chaotic through her being, making of herself a means towards its end.
In female body, the gene/meme conflict reaches its apex when the meme is nihilistic, contradicting genetic order, and in the female mind order/chaos reach a confusing pinnacle of conflicting behaviours.
What matters, to her, is the sensation of power surging through her – using her as a conduit.
It is the female spirit wanting to assert itself over masculine order that attempts to use her chaotic essence as a more profound truth.
For females, and men who have not matured to manhood, that the desirable outcome takes precedence over the means necessary to attain it.
For them words, natural order, reality, are hindrances they can evade on their way to the goal.
Lying, cheating, pretending, using words like toys to manipulate and to obfuscate, to change their minds constantly on the grounds of their vagueness, are all acceptable tactics when the goal is the only thing that matters - survival, preserving your social status that ensures it, cultivating an image that promotes it.
There are no boundaries of integrity, nobility, loyalty.
All falls on the wayside on the road to their desired destination.
Women, and immature, stunted in their development males, such as emasculated, effete, men-children, find in one another a kindred spirit, recognizing in each other those who despise order, and anything that represents it, standing in the way of their ‘fulfillment’.

Only when a woman gives birth, becoming a conduit of man's order, does her spirit quiet, dedicating itself to the externalized order, she brought forth as a male's end.
Only when a power external order directs the order in herself, does her chaotic essence submit.
She always needs an order superior to the one she is to control the innate chaos of her nature.
Men-children and women latch onto superior order to focus their own ordering - otherwise they remain lost in their confusion, using sensation, emotion, as evidence of a deeper-order they've given themselves to.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Sat Jul 01, 2017 10:43 am


Vanity, arrogance, narcissism are byproducts of nihilism.

The degenerate must compensate for his own inferiority by hyper-inflating himself, and those who feed his delusions.
He must surround himself with sycophants who add to hyper-realism, creating a social unity similar to fish schools, and bird flocks, and mammalian herds.....as a reaction to a threatening, deflating, world.
They have no external references to validate their abstractions, so they use one another as echo-chamber-mates.  
Inter-Subjectivity is dependent on multiplicity of subjectivity becoming the only norm.
The external world, the objective world, would shatter the shared, codependent delusion....their words always refer to other members of the group, or to idols adopted as the group's representation of their shared values.
Unable and unwilling to connect their words to phenomena beyond their inter-subjective hyper-reality, they become proficient scholars and artists dedicated to providing the group with alternatives to the world beyond.
Over time this co-dependency is solidified by habituation, and psychological atrophying, forcing the group into tighter, m,ore intimate, co-dependencies.
The individual is not able to exist outside the group, and the shared lies that unities them.
Rejecting the objective world becomes a matter of life or death.  

Words, in this context, are the unifying webs of co-dependency.
The noetic netting, that unites and binds the herd together.
Their only references are to other members of the group, to their shared feelings, abstractions, emotions, sensations, or to a shared icon/idol.  
Individual compensating vanity and narcissism becomes group vanity, and a collective narcissism....see Christianity and how it declares its own salvation as a universal truth, adopting and adapting Judaism and their collective narcissistic declaration of being 'chosen by god, to suffer on his behalf'.
Jesus is the unifying icon/idol, but more recently it is Nietzsche who is replacing Marx, as the unifying icon./idol among post-christian secular Abrahamics.

Saul had to corrupt and redefine Jesus' words, and the same is occurring with Nietzsche, and his aphoristic artistry. He is now becoming the idol of a new Christian-like dogma that assimilates his critique into its very premises by adapting them to Judaism, via Spinoza's secularizing humanism.
The detachment of words from their phenomenal references is part of nihilistic practice. it is, sometimes, the only way to discern nihilism in its evolution through time.
The virus evolves in reaction to each autoimmune threat.

Marxism became post-modernism, Christianity became humanism, but it can morph again to accommodate the Nietzschean threat among a particular segment of modern males - mostly males with IQ above 120, and with a feeble psychology that cannot cope with what their brains expose them to - corrupting intelligence through a vulnerable, weak constitution/psyche.  
Inflation, hyperbole, narcissism, vanity, is rampant among such males - or men-children.
They construct a shared noetic bubble, using symbols/words, to cocoon themselves in a hyper-real alternate fantasy.

Without this necessary limiting rule language would be a meaningless exchange of mental constructs with only emotions, hopes, feelings, and pleasure to validate them. World would not be necessary, to focus and shape our thoughts - evolution would be creationism and words would all be equally meaningless.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Sat Jul 01, 2017 6:03 pm

In all things the degenerate regresses to the state of infancy - imagining a hidden consciousness, or unconsciousness in every action, replacing parental presence, with a secret underlying intent - something to make sense of its need/suffering; something to know, and by knowing to bargain with, to pray to, to plead and beg from; something to trick and lie to, just as it lies to itself, and to those it seeks approval of his lies from.

A universal all-encompassing maternal womb - surrounding it with amniotic fluids, and a soft uterus - some benevolent cocoon to break out from, into a kind and forgiving world.
It reverts back to a fetus, wanting to crawl back into the womb, and be reborn, as something, and someone else.


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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Tue Jul 04, 2017 9:33 am

Just as with the idea(l) of an Abrahamic God, a contradictory to reality, concept emerges from the human mind, latching onto and suckling on genetic needs, and memetically manufactured prejudices declaring itself a truth, a starting alpha/omega proposition, to which all who disagree or reject must then adopt to negate it - pulling them into its established absurdity.
To negate the absolute, one must adopt another absolute- entering into the Nihilistic paradigm.

All the nihilist does is he manufactures a seductively primal idea(l). One the basest mind can appreciate and be manipulated by.
No argument is necessary, as the declaration carries an emotionally triggering declaration, all can use to cope with the world it contradicts.
To challenge this seductive declaration, this absolute, you must accept ti as a starting premise.
At which point you've already accepted the "logic" it has not proven, but simply declared and supported with emotional instinct triggering symbols/words.
Now the challenger must disprove the absurdity, by adopting its own lies. He must confront it b adopting its own unproven, emotional, seductive appeals.

Normally an leper is avoided, leaving him to face the inevitable...but if they multiply the healthy one must deal with the growing number of lepers by physical means - which is how their dis-ease spreads.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Tue Jul 04, 2017 9:42 am

The idea(l) is an idea given status.
It is a noetic construct, referring to abstractions used to orient and direct the will.
In time it becomes a central collection of ideas that direct and guide the behavior, the ambitions of one or many minds.

Ideas, are to memes, what DNA are to genes.
Their multiplicity suffers the same erosion, the same mutations, the same test of time.
Those that are fit, will survive, those that are not, and are not protected from their errors, will perish...and all those who follow them will be the benefactors or the sufferers of the cost/benefits.

Not all ideas and ideals are created equal.
Natural selection also applies to memes.

Therefore, ideas and ideals are neither good or bad, they are more or less connected to reality, more or less fit, more or less effective, efficient applicable, useful.
Just as with genetic, memes can be neutral, latent, they can lie in waiting for a trigger - dormant.
Just as with genes memes, produce particular kinds of organisms, with particular traits, potentials.
Like genes each meme is selfish, wanting to propagate itself...and just like genes the final arbitrator is reality; how they apply within world, not how they sound in theory.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Sat Jul 08, 2017 3:07 pm

The memetic parasite in question does not have to engage the host's consciousness.
A male animal does not have to know why it is fighting another male to fornicate with the female. It has no cognition of why it is driven to assault another member of the herd. Hormones overwhelm its survival instincts, altering its agenda, without it having to understand it.
Thing are worse in the case of parasites that hijack the host’s naturally evolved behaviours.
Anyone who knows about the lancet fluke and how it hijacks the host to alter its behavior will understand that this memetic parasite, this virus of the mind, leaves the host ignorant.
Those infected by it invert their perceptions, are directed to think in nihilistic ways, negating experienced reality with their ideas, their attitude.
They are driven to act in ways that negate nature, and inevitably contradicts their own survival.
They don't have to understand what they are doing, or know that they are ill. In fact if they did they would not be ill.
Hating them would be the same as hating the individual metaphorically infected with the virus that turns one into a zombie... or the ant colony hating the individual ant who has been infected by the lancet fluke parasite.
It's a worthless emotion in this case.
The original individual has no idea he or she is a zombie, or what he or she is doing, or why... it is on automatic.
It is driven to spread the parasite, to infect as many uninfected hosts as possible, and to do so through the primal need to eat, to consume...or in the case of the Abrahamic Nihilistic strain, to survive, to live no matter what, and to call this living, any kind of existing, 'good'.
We can all feel it, just by repeating it, how infectious this is: that no matter who you are, and what kind of life you are living, that it is no difference than any other... that it is just as good.
You would do anything to justify this pleasing thought, just as a junky would kill his own family to get his next coping 'dose'...he would sacrifice his integrity, his pride, his dignity... he would do anything to get what he needs to cope with existing...and then he will call it good, and himself 'healthy'.
He'll justify it by claiming that when he is medicated, his mind is exposed to higher, deeper truths... that he is better, smarter, stronger, and more confident.


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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:28 am

Thornhill;Palmer wrote:
First, the theory attributes cause to a non-corporeal reined entity referred to as "a culture" or "a society. "In 1972, around the time that the idea of group selection as an effective force responsible for adaptation was being overthrown in biology, the anthropologist George Peter Murdock stated the following:
It now seems to me distressingly obvious that culture, social system, and all comparable supra-individual concepts, such as collective representations, group mind, and social organism, are illusory conceptual abstractions inferred from observations of the very real phenomena of individuals interacting with one another and with their natural environments....They are, in short, mythology, not science, and are to be rejected in their entirety—not revised or modified.
(Murdock1972,p.19)
Despite Murdock's strong advice, many social science explanations, including explanations of rape, continue to attribute proximate causation to abstract and metaphysical group entities.
The second premise of the social science theory of rape—that rape is not sexually motivated—also contains a metaphysical assumption. The claim that sexual arousal, interest, and/or motivation is absent during sexual acts implies an extreme form of the classic dualistic assumption that human brains (or minds) are separate entities from bodies—a notion long ago tossed on the intellectual trash heap. For example, Sanday (1990,p. 10) states that during a rape "the sexual act is not concerned with sexual gratification but with the deployment of the penis as a concrete symbol of masculine social power," and Beneke (1982,p.16) asserts that, for males, not only does rape have nothing to do with sex;" sex itself often has little to do with sex." This implies that the bodies of human males may go through all of the physiological processes of sex (arousal,erection,even ejaculation) without their brains' going through corresponding sexual physiological processes (such as dopamine reward). Since certain physiological processes in the brain can be shown to accompany certain physiological processes in the rest of the body, the alleged lack of sexual motivation in the brain during sexual acts must refer to the state of an unidentifiable human mind distinct from the brain.

A Natural Theory of Rape - Biological Bases of sexual Coercion


To connect the phenomenon of rape with biological processes is to bring it 'down to earth' where things are exposed and Nihilism dissipates as a puff of ideological hocus-pocus.
The act of sex is converted to a noetic construct, to detach it from its genetic, primal, real foundations, that would utterly destroy all nihilistic delusions.
Sex is made into a metaphysical motive...what I call noumenon totally detached form phenomenon, or it is reduced to something base so as to shame it, in relation to human moral conventions, rooted in Nihilistic ideology.

The confusion is more evident in relation to homosexuality, and has been exposed by Peterson and his battle against political-correctness.
The Modern is so confused that his own ideals coming into conflict create no pause. Compartmentalization, or the psychological byproduct of schizophrenia, allows the modern to hols two contradictory views, at the same time, without having to correct either.
Sex is converted to a choice, a act of will, to imply human freedom from past, from determining nature, but this contradicts the earlier and simultaneously held augment that homosexuality is genetically produced and not a choice taken by the individual.

Rape is converted to a noetic abstraction having to do with power, lacking all biological grounding, having to do with sexual need, female sexual power, and how inferior males (beta males) adapted counter-measures to circumvent it.
By converting it to an ideology, a power game, a social construct, it can be remedied, unlike homosexuality if it is not defined as a matter of choice, and trendiness.
To be male is to learn how to be male....and there are no genetic, naturally determined factors, contradicting the argument that homosexuality is something one is born as and not learned.
What can be learned can be unlearned. The motive of raising the phenomenon up to the ideological level, where it is totally detached form past - sum of all previous nurturing- is an attempt to make it correctable....but it then contradicts the already used justification for the emergence of homosexuality, or any other form of sexual dysfunction.



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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Fri Jul 14, 2017 2:25 pm

Imitating the emergence of computer viruses, producing many douche-bags, who like Messiah's want to intervene to, hypothetically, save you, the scammer, or charlatan, considers all potential victims of a level below his own.
He generalizes victims, unable to predict the existence of potential victims above him.
Arrogance, becomes narcissism, after a few successful manipulations of gullibility and stupidity - weakness.
Here Will to Power feels superior only because it has faced those below it, and it will proceed to seek these out, avoiding anyone above it, that may burst its self-loving, self-valuing, masturbatory, ego bubble.


First thing to notice is how arrogant these degenerates are.
Their accent contradicts the name they use to introduce themselves...but they continue on.  


The thing to notice in the next vid is how, towards the end, when the scammer is discovered, he tries to rescue his pride, by claiming that he wasted the potential victim's time, because no matter what, the douche-bag has to come out a winner.
This is just like when our own douche-bag Jakoff, and his merry-men-children of scammers, want to rescue their own pride by claiming they were plagiarized, because the possibility that they've been corrupting a well-known and ancient position is far to hard to swallow.
I use them as examples that brings what I am saying 'down to earth, connecting it to the here and now.... Wink


This is a real-life example of a degenerate, only slightly superior to the victims he is trying to exploit, thinks and acts...in real-time, in the real-world.
What are the common traits characterizing these nihilistic messianic types, that also produced Judaism, Christianity/Islam, Marxism, post-modernism and so on?
They are positive...they carry a feel-good 'solution' to a 'problem' that may or may not exist in the mind of the victims they are trying to exploit.
The reasoning is simple, as is always the case with simpletons.....even the super-clever ones, the creatively crazy ones.
All must run on a predictable, regimented way...it must have a reason, and so it must have a solution.
He who denies this is 'negative', he who buys into their crap is inferior, yet good, because he is a potential victim.
The first is useless....unproductive, they call him.
They can't milk anything form him...so he's a nil, a dead end....negative possibility for manipulation.
They want the Saully's and the Wyld's, the Pezer's of the world, to be the telephone operators, the 'gents" of spreading the 'word', Microsoft word, of exploitation, among the infinite sea of idiots they exploit.

On the other side we have the infinitely cynical ones. Like cAnus.
Unable to distinguish between scammer and friend, she closes the line on all incoming calls.
These people are so dim-witted that they need a face-to-face to make sure you aren't a pretender, a scammer...to verify your identity, to watch your facial expressions, so that thy can rest assured that they are not being exploited, as they have been so many times before.
So dumb, that they no longer trust their own judgment....and for good reason.
But, unable to determine why, or how, they use the simpler method of rejecting all incoming calls.  
Everyone is on perma-block.
It's not their judgment, it's that all theories are equally wrong.

To further the analogy...we have the Ollie's of the world who received a 'call' by an unknown seducer, and were titillated by sweet-talk and promises of something 'real'....but, in the end, the leader, the supervisor cut the line, so that (s)he can returbn to her job of seducing potential victims - indoctrination, proselytize and add to the leader's "wealth"...his "value", because he sells nothing but hopes and dreams.  



Then you have the cynical douche-bags who have been tricked so many times they no longer trust anyone speaking on the phone. They delude themselves that if they see them, face-to-face, you know like the cunt cAnus says he want sot being it "down to earth", meaning making it personal, that they will no longer be tricked as they have been so many times before, and are still trapped in the scam their last seducer placed them in.
Unable to distinguish a legitimate call, form a scam, the degenerate dismisses all in-coming calls as scams.
She only responds to intimate encounters, unable to see how even in such situations she can still be scammed, because the 'problem' is not the other, but her...she has inherited, genetically, an inferior mind, unable to differentiate and discriminate, therefore, for her the most comforting, and easiest solution is that all is the same, and to discriminate is wrong - she calls this her maturity; the discovery of this method of compensating for inferior genes.

In her mind it is the telephone connection, or the word, the ideal, which is at fault, not her.
She is always of no fault....just as Jakoff is not to blame for not realizing what KT members are saying, for years....until Saully informed him, and how did he react to this revelation, positing to his own poor judgment/
He accused us of plagiarism.
So, in it not that we've been saying this for years, and he was never reading, or caring to read because he's a narcissist git...but we were saying something else - something only he and his van-clan knew about - occult knowledge.
This is why I love ILP and the internet. In my field of interest, humanity, there is no better place to find, and observe specimens without being accused of voyeurism, or obsessiveness...although, this also happens when you tell the focus of your study that it is being studied.  

We all know Saully visits, and being one who sees IP addresses I can validate this suspicion.
And, yes, there are sock-puppets used by the van-clan, such as gafr, who I adapt my performance to, when I see him on KT.
You may ask me, 'why are you exposing this, when you can exploit the knowledge more easily if you pretend ignorance'?
Well, simple answer is....because I get bored with nit-wits and want more of a challenge.
I want them to come-up with more creative ways to outsmart me.

The idea that they've thought of something I haven't in the are of metaphysics, is far more likely than the possibility that, imbeciles, like them, needy twats, have thought of something real, social, psychological, I haven't already encountered and reported on....even if ti was in the more intimate setting of the Adyton.
Now, Saully hasn't been back here for a while, after he began questioning his master, and then departed to consider his errors, opr when he smelled bullshyte in his master's narcissistic, solipsistic, mind-farts, trying to find them, his mistakes, in the differences between English and Dutch, or German...but his master has been back, using some proxy to hide his IP, and Saully, will be back, in time.
He's too needy to stay away for long.
He loves the scent of male crotch....testicles in his nose.  
It's why he never left Nietzsche's big balls. He, or shall I say 'she', loves to lick them, cup them, smell them, cover her face with thir sweat, be covered with her idol's testosterone, because she has none of hr own.
Jackoff's ball-sack will do, but those are shriveled, miserly, circumcised, balls, in comparison to the one and only's.

Having said all that let me assure all readers that these individual specimens hold no interest to me, other than how they represent a general rule, which I want to study.
As people, they are useless, meaningless, valueless, but as symptoms of a did-ease, they are more evidence of an infection.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Fri Jul 14, 2017 3:45 pm

Degenerates like all forms of attention. Anything that distinguishes them from among the throng they, in theory, identify with, and want to disappear within.
It's not ironic that those who most desperately profess to belong to a uniform whole, are desperate to stand-out from it. It's not ironic, its to be expected, if you understand the psychosis.
Sure, there are those more creative generates who attempt to separate themselves from the herd, the feed on, and want to be associated with, in theory, if only using symbols, like garments, words, gadgets, symbols, but then there's the less creative ones who find it too difficult to both belong and to diverge from what they need to immerse themselves within....so, instead, they attempt to level it all down, making it all one uniform, subjective, whole, only different in perspective, in fashion choices, in taste, in something as simple as upbringing, where they remain engulfed within, and not only coincidentally, but because it is pleasing.
How else, other than by chance, could they escape their own inadequacies?

It's like the liar who accuses the skeptic of a ulterior motive, because he does not believe in his lies.
The 'bad'. the 'negative' is always externalized, projected, unloaded on the other....leaving only the 'good', the flattering, the 'positive' for the self to embrace as a self it has no understanding of.


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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Fri Jul 14, 2017 4:49 pm

Then you get the odd sob-story...
...I did it to feed my family.

This is where cynicism differs from legitimate caution.
Cynicism is fear of what cannot be rationalized, or explained...it is irrational fear, anxiety of all that is not understood.
Legitimate fear, skepticism, of what is known, what can be rationalized, is different from cynicism, in that cynicism expresses anxiety, usually in the form of jovial, stress-relieving, laughter, comedic dismissals, without being able to rationalize the fear.
It rejects, without offering any reason...it just dismisses what is beyond its ability to comprehend....which is why fear of the dark is a common fear among diurnal mammalian species....or why fear of dark is common among children, and females.

I'm not saying there's anything 'wrong', or 'immoral' with taking advantage of imbeciles....only exposing some of the mechanisms involved, on both ends.
There's a symbiotic relationship based on need....like a lion taking down a water buffalo and eating it alive.
Both are acting on a weakness, or falling prey to a weakness.
One, the predator, because of its need to replace lost energies, and the preyed upon, falling victim to its genetic, or accumulated weaknesses, setting it apart from the herd.


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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Sat Jul 15, 2017 4:31 pm

Degenerates have a low pain threshold.
They need to see the silver lining in every dark cloud, but ignore the dark lining in every silver cloud.

Unable to control emotion, they submit to it, comforting themselves that being in control means lacking emotion - just as they imagine courage as the absence of fear, and not the embracing of it, the going through it.
See, feeble cunts cannot be rational, without being completely detached, so they turn emotion into a virtue, comforting themselves with the idea that reason is an absence of emotion, pleasure, joy in being alive.

They are either/or Nihilistic douche-bags.
Either you enjoy life, you surrender to emotion, you find pleasure in everything, or you are a numb, joyless, sad fuck.
They misconstrue masculinity in the same way.
They imagine it as the complete absence of femininity - no tenderness, no tolerance, no giving-in, no sympathy, no kindness, no tears, no laughter.
Hyper-Masculinity is a symptom of emasculation - fear of losing one's self to the feminine.
But being masculine is not a lack of a feminine understanding, all feminine traits...it is their dominance, their control, their submission to the masculine, in you.....in YOU, before all else.

What is the nihilistic spirit, the Jewish dis-ease?
No, not a complete absence of miserly, anti-nature, anti-life, self-comforting blindness....it is the surrender to primal human condition of existential anxiety.
It's why it emerges among the Indo-Europeans, in the most pronounced way - among the Semitic, tribes, then spreading to 12, or 13 in all, before a halt to its spread had to be imposed to stop it from becoming a universal crutch, losing its elitist slavish privileged of choseness.
How could you be the chosen slave, in the metaphysical master's idealized home - a house slave - if all salves also shared this privilege?
A typical behavior when slave turns on slave, for the master's good graces.
See, the Jews had to stop proselytizing because their entire dogma rested on inversion of their physical inferior status, to a metaphysical superiority - as the ones chosen, by the 'King of kings' to suffer so as to gain divinity.
They inverted their miserly, outcast, status, to a metaphysical peak on an abstract hierarchy, and when they saw how powerful the idea was, they had to deny it to all the masses of slaves that were multiplying, at the time.
Their miserly spirit is in all Aryans, and all humans with a sophisticated sense of self - a pronounced self-consciousness.
It's the spirit of survival at all costs - do the things other humans feel ashamed of doing, to survive.
Pay the price of dignity, humble and humiliate yourself, to gain spiritual pride.

The idea is seductive because it speaks to our deepest insecurities and desires.
It feeds into our most primal needs.  
It was so powerful that the other tribes had to have it for themselves, through a mediating proxy to legitimize it.
Christianity and Islam were the first to legitimize the dis-ease through the proxies of Jesus and Mohammed.
The Jews, for obvious reasons, had to distance themselves from these adaptations, because ti decreased the elitist spirituality they had fabricated.
They had to legitimize them.
The same process occurred when Marxism, as an a secularization of Christianity, had to denounce the source, and pretend it had no common ground.
With post-modernism the need to disassociate from Marxism is how it attempt to reinvent Communism, absorbing the lessons that resulted in its failure.

Christianity is now being reborn, after the destructive effects of Nietzsche, using the selective absorption, and redefinition, of the mind that exposed and announced it's god's death.
It wont be called Christianity, and it will not use the same metaphors, names, symbols....just as Communism tried to reinvent Christianity by abandoning its symbols and replacing them, and by denying the God element, to replace it with the State.
Human feebleness, need, cannot stand a world void of the help it received from Abrahamism.
Existence is intolerable to them, without it.
They call it negative, and those who can endure it, or who remind them of what they are, they call many different derogatory names.  


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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Sat Jul 15, 2017 7:16 pm

We can divide the Nihilist (Idealist) versus Realist (Pragmatist) types along esoteric/exoteric criteria, not corresponding precisely to extroversion/introversion.
The Realist attaches his abstraction, using symbols/words to external phenomena, seeking validation in them.
Behavior, appearance, actions are primary.
Validation in the objective world.

The Idealist, reaching the extreme of Nihilism, where detachment is extreme, detaches abstraction, using words/symbols from phenomenon, inverting the connection to reattach them internally, to other abstractions, or to emotions, feelings.
Actions are secondary to ideals, to intents.
All their ideologies, their ideals, are esoteric, and can only be validated subjectively using emotion, feeling, pleasure...everything that cannot be observed but only reported, declared.
Nothing can be right/wrong because it's all about the individual's interpretations and reactions to reality. All external standards are rejected, or dismissed, or ignored, or slandered, using ad hom and cynicism.
Validation in the subjective interpretation, reaction to world.  
All must be made into an idea, a concept, an abstraction....such as one, and nil.

That the species, like all species, has evolved senses to judge and discriminate, is unimportant when the motive is survival at all costs, beginning with the preservation of the ideology that aids in survival.
They see differences, but dismiss them using a variety of excuses, all communally supportable, because they lack all reasoning.
In this category we have two sub-divisions, the positive nihilist, who projects into world his abstractions, emotions, feelings, and when they do not respond he chooses to project them upon others, like them, who can reciprocate the positive - proactive degenerates, creating an alternate reality to place between them and reality....and the negative Nihilists, who simply dismiss, negate, all words/symbols, that allude to something hurtful, threatening, stressful - passive-aggressive degenerates, adopting an alternate reality, or negating all reality, to escape in a uniformity of nil.

The desire to convert all into an idea is a way to make all malleable to human desire, needs, fantasy.
the external world cannot be changed, nor can it be dealt with as easily as one existing in the mind.
In the mind is where the 'positive' Nihilists places his ideologies, for which there are few, if any references outside the brain, and in the mind is where the negative, or pure nihilists places all to annihilate them noetically, because he is unable to do so pragmatically.

That Moderns have converted sex, race, humanity, love, value, beauty, morality, and many other concepts to abstraction, to mere ideas that can be ascribed to social engineering, is indicate of this desire to make everything that challenges their ideology into an idea they can annihilate, or corrupt, to create a better alternate reality.
Their words have no descriptive, nor predictive, potential. They literally refer to concepts in their brains, where they can be absolutely affirmed or denounced.  
Morality, for example, has no external behavioral reference, one can observe across species, because it offers an adaptive advantage, because it has an evolved function.
All attempts to connect the word 'moral' to an external, observable, empirically testable, behavior, activity, is threatening their ideology of negation.
Same goes for the other words mentioned above, referring to concepts the modern want to maintain as noetic constructs, where they can deconstruct and alter them, at will, or annihilate and destroy them in their mind.  

The mind, or the esoteric as they call it to make it sound profound, is another way of describing the divine: immutable, eternal, all-creating, all-destroying, independent from the external, mysterious/mystical, unable to be defined or represented using symbols/words, non-physical, spiritual, infinitely malleable, magical, not subject to physical forces, unaffected by nature, by time/space etc.
Any concept can be spiritualized in this manner.
By 'spiritualized' I mean converted to a pure noumenon, with no connection to phenomena; to an abstraction with no external references.
In fact the more detached it is from reality the more pure it is - powerful, cleansing, protective, divine.

The Christians are not disturbed by the irrationality of their god, as they define and describe him....they are invigorated in their faith, all the more.
The more absurd their god, the more faith they must have, to prove their surrender.
The more irrational their god, the more contrary to reality this concept is, and so the more promise for salvation from world he offers.
But most Nihilistic ideologies/dogmas have similar reinvigorating contradictions.
The Jews are validated when they are hated. When they are attacked, they become stronger.  
The Muslims are reinvigorated by infidels. They are an opportunity to prove their faith in Allah.    

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