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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Fri Aug 25, 2017 9:08 am

It's interesting how the concept of nihilism has been warped to mean the world is negative if it is void of manmade ideals, but the nihilistic political dichotomy also reflects this warping.

The Left is associated with positive change, with embracing it
Left is considered revolutionary, continuously rebelling against the status quo.
Right with trying to conserve order, of arresting change.


The ironic thing is change does not require any help.
It happens one way or another.
The Left is not producing change, it is idolizing it because it is naive and deluded and it believes that change leads to a better world.
Essentially the left is continuously disappointed by every outcome and hoping the next round of change will finally bring about Utopia.
The underlying logic is that all is ordered, all is conscious, so something rational, something good, will eventually develop if man stops interfering, or trying to stop change.
Somehow the all-encompassing mind, the order in all things, will converge upon Utopia - a world of no need/suffering, no exclusion, no discrimination, no injustice.

The omnipresent order, consciousness, like god, knows best, and thy will be done.

It is, in fact, the Right that is the rebel, on a metaphysical level.
It wants to stop change, or control its development.
A masculine psychology contrasting with the Left's feminine disposition, of surrendering to power, and hoping it will treat it well - giving itself to power, becoming a means to its ends.
The Left's secularization did not rid itself of the Abrahamic deity. It changes its name, and justified it using spiritual mysticism, and even attempted to validate it suing mathematics.
The Divine, is the order, the consciousness in all things, which will, one day, eventually, develop into something good. The only reason it does not is because of humanity, and interventions upon it by the Fascists, the Right, who try, like fools, to stop a natural process.
There are, of course Right wing fools, who do try to stop change, by dreaming up all sorts of ridiculous concepts, like the Christian god.
Some invent, or presuppose, the existence of universal order, or of consciousness existing outside organic brains.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Fri Aug 25, 2017 1:45 pm

One of the side-effects of being a inversion thinker, a Backwards reasoner [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] is that causality is a hindrance to your motives.
Causality describes sequences, in linear time, but for backward thinker, of post-modernists, or liberals, or NIHILISTS, they begin with the conclusion, with the effect, and then proceed to justify it; they invert sequences by exploiting the nature of language, and how abstractions can be manipulated in the mind, because natural order does not affect them......the noetic is separated from the phenomenon, as a representation.

the inversion is what produces this externalization of mind, or consciousness.
Part of the error a Bicameral mind makes when it has no experience with self-consciousness, or confuses its own representations for phenomena, when they are noumena that require external validation.  

This occurs when sense data are converted to neurological pulses.
In the mind abstractions can be rearranged, as is evident in many mythological constructs, such as satyrs, or two contradictory phenomena can be synthesized, by exploiting ambiguity.
In the mind the individual feels like a king, because in there he is like a god, manipulating existence, when if fact e is only manipulating representations of existence, that are not necessarily factual.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Fri Aug 25, 2017 2:00 pm

This is what happens when the abstraction, the noumenon, has lost all external references, all connections to phenomena.
It scrambles to fill in the void, still unable to let go of the pleasure of this detachment.
It finds a substitute in the mind of another, usually the one from who the idea was transferred, or manufactures a mind, such as God, that is external yet nowhere and everywhere, to explain its non-phenomenal non-presence.
The hedonist simply substitutes the absent phenomena with pleasure....the sensation, inverting the connection back upon self - Solipsism.
For some this is insufficient. they must find an alternative to the absence of an external connection.
If the ego is too large, it cannot find it in the mind of another, or ti must surpass the mind, to remain free.
It substitutes it by projecting mind, consciousness, outside brain.
It assumes it into existence.
In fact the idea is a re-connection back to its own mind, because only there does the mind exist as a product of brain.
It thinks itself everywhere...and feels like a god.

Causality is inverted.
First brain emerges to then evolve the mind that can be so confused.
Consciousness evolves out of unconsciousness, and self-consciousness out of consciousness, but for the degenerate, self-consciousness is first.
Causal chain is inverted...but only in his won mind.
Which makes it ironic and comedic.

The causal chain is inverted.
Unconsciousness is a product consciousness and consciousness is a product of self-consciousness.

This is the Abrahamic paradigm, found in Judaism, Christianity and Islam.
Word is first...meaning representation of the mind.
Theretofore, world is the outcome of words, of language/symbols, in a mind that has existed for eternity: absolute order.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Fri Aug 25, 2017 2:48 pm

Grounded on the Top<>Down method of emoting, nihilism can declare an ideal plausible, basing it on self-consistency once some presumptions are taken for granted, and then proceed to have faith in the discovery of the ideal they already believe in.
So, God, for the christian, has yet to be disproved, and there is so much that remains unknown, that he is still a plausible idea.
for those believing in chaos as complexity, the same method is used.
They already believe that everything is ordered, and that the only thing standing in the way is complexity. In all there is God, or order....or consciousness.

A rational Bottom<>Up thinker, takes precedence as indication of plausibility.
Memory.
Experience - first hand data.
Knowledge - second hand data.

Validated in the present, by juxtaposing it with presence.
Not hearsay, not rumour, not an ideal that remains theoretical....but the world.
Experience, cross-referencing, continuous testing of assumptions, is the empirical method.
It builds confidence, trust, and plausibility - probability.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Wed Sep 20, 2017 2:25 pm

A nihilist does not care about what is, or about precedent, increasing the probability of a possibility.
He or she, uses the negative, as an argument to support his naive propositions, or to dismiss any theory that hurts his feelings or threatens his ego, and the investment he's made no an ideology he was raised on, could not break free of, until a new authority presented itself to give him the courage.

He is such a coward, so emotionally driven, that he will deny Evolution theory on the grounds that one day it may be disproves.
He must submit to the absolute. If not a God, then a state, and if not a state then the Absolute authority of a humanity, and if not that then....then he will submit to nothing, to nothingness itself.

He is so emasculated, or was born to be effete, that he, like women, cannot give himself to anything if it is not superior, and what can be more superior to all, for all time, than the absolute.
If not absolute Order then Absolute chaos.
In his craven spirit, cowering for safety, certainty, he saves himself/herself, for an immanent price charming, a coming utopia, a after death paradise, or the coming perfect, absolute Idea(l).
Having proven to be an intellectual whore, he now claims to be rehabilitated, and a fainting virgin, romantically awaiting the omnipotent being to sweep her off her feet.
Short of that, she will become a bitter spinster cynically dismissing all eroticism, and all love affairs as not perfect, and so not on her level of expectations.



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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Wed Sep 20, 2017 5:03 pm

Nihilists literally use the negative, the absence of absolutes, as an argument to justify any degenerate hypothesis or to cynically dismiss them all, or selectively, to allow negation to permit any hypothesis of being possible.

This is the argument form the negative.
It is because there is no absolute truth, no certainty, no completeness, no omnipotence, omniscience, that validates either that all meaning is equally right, or equally wrong.
It is the greatest piece of self-deceit man has ever invented to comfort himself.
Of course the absence of an absolute does not mean all opinions are just as accurate or inaccurate, just as the absence of omnipotence is not proof that all are equal in strength and/or weakness, or the absence of omniscience means that all knowledge is equal in error...and the absence of immortality does not mean all life is the same.

Degree is a concept the coward and the hypocrite refuses to acknowledge, and the imbecile is unable to compute.

It is, in fact, the very absence of an absolute that makes life possible, and that gives meaning to natural selection.
Nature deals in processes, functions, and not wholes, and final complete ends.  
It is about superior/inferior, more/less, stronger/weaker.
The absence of an absolute gives meaning to Evolution and to the (inter)active flux of Energies.
For the coward and the hypocrite and for the common imbecile, irony is his inability to comprehend, comparing what he thinks the other si saying with what he then says.....he sees it as belonging to the other, when it is he who creates it.

For a telentless painter, his inability to represent movement, a dynamic world, is masked by a denial that movement is real.
For the talentless philosopher, or a coward and a hypocrite who cannot integrate change, movement and randomness into his philosophy, the easier way to go is to deny chaos altogether, defining chaos as a hidden, occult, order.
The modern needs absolutes, and he will project them into the world that lacks them. The absolute can be a positive or a negative.
it does not matter much. What matters is comforting himself, with something complete, something he can prepare for and use.
These are the true Nihilists who finding no evidence of an absolute must construct it in their mind, and then believe in it as if it were a god.
If not absolute order, then absolute chaos, randomness....if not an external meaning, purpose, reason, then a denial of all reason, all purpose, all meaning.

The dualsitic either/or poles trapping moderns in a nihilistic paradigm - binary 1/0 neurology projected as an external truth.
They see themselves everywhere.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Thu Sep 21, 2017 9:40 am

Basic principle of philosophical discourse
You don't attack an idea by casting aspersion about the one who proposed it, offering no alternative.

For example...if Darwin's theory concerning natural selection, disturb you, you cannot disprove him by making aspersions about his motives, his character, his values.
First you argue against his positions, exposing his errors, and then you may analyze what the roots of his mistakes are.
Then you must provide an alternative, better, theory explaining life and how species evolve.

Declaring him vile, and his theories wrong, is easy...so easy a moron can do it and many morons do exactly that.
Destroying a theory by slandering the theoretician, leaves  a void the destroyer must fill with a superior theory. otherwise he's a hypocrite and a imbecile, and the slander is really his own psychology projected as an attack on the individual because he cannot attack the ideas themselves.
It's what children and women, most often do, when faced with a threatening idea.
If you succeed, let's say, in discrediting Darwin in the minds of the majority, does this make his insights on Evolution disappear, does it make natural selection go away?



Basic principle of constructing a theory
You cannot place evidence of your theory in some internal, abstract, realm where only you are the conduit to it.
You cannot define words in whatever manner you like, to construct whatever delusion you need, hoping only to attract those who suffer your psychosis.

A theory's evidence must be testable by all, requiring no special jargon to comprehend.
It must be validated by external sources, independent of all motives, ideals, presuppositions, expectations.
Actions, not words...and in the context of life and living organisms, behavior, not intentions, repeating actions, not stated intents and expectations.  
Placing the theory in some esoteric realm, in your mind essentially, makes it malleable by you.
You can shift meanings, at any time, claim anything, simply by redefining words and symbols...you are beholden to nothing outside your whims, your will, and you only hold yourself accountable to other minds, making sure you surround yourself with 'yes men', with sycophants, with ass lickers.

Language, symbols are supposed to revel, to clarify an already unknown, mysterious existence, they are not meant to add to its mystique, unless the motive is other than lucidity.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Thu Sep 21, 2017 12:14 pm

Psychological Nihilistic Paradigm
Binary Thinking - dualism
Positive vs pure Nihilism


Positive Nihilist
Self-Contradicting confused mind, adopting abstractions has never validated personally, on trust, and on the emotional rewards it gives him.
To resolve the conundrum he settles for declaring his mental abstractions, as superior to sensual data, where he cannot find what he is convinced must, should exist, independent from his mind.
Semiotics, words/symbols, replace world, or correct it, of its lack of what he demands and expects and needs to endure it.  

Inverted Reality: Project abstractions, such as God, or detach concepts from world to convert them to noetic constructs existing in the brain, reducing philosophy to a political, popularity contest.

He feels superior to the pure nihilist because he feels his bravery, in creating an alternative reality to live in, corrects his cowardice in living in a world void of the abstractions he expects and needs to make the world bearable.
He will leave nobody behind who does not need these infantile methods, including narcotics, to make the world bearable.  

Memetic programmer = Messiah, guru, priest, leader, idol, icon - existence corrected, is the only life that can be lived.



Pure, authentic, Nihilist
A mind that has lost trust in the self-contradicting positive nihilism he dedicated most of his life to, and invested most of his hopes and expectations on.
But having lost trust, and feeling hurt, let down by those who gave him self-contradicting delusions the world did not abide by, he dedicates his energies in cynically destroying all ideals and theories, to absolve himself of the guilt and the shame of having been duped.
Semiotics, words/symbols, are reduced to ploys, propaganda, to be slandered so as to  lead all to the settlement he's made - indirect validation: critical theory.
Slander all theories he cannot challenge intellectually, by attacking the ones proposing them, implying his own as the only alternative, which he cannot justify, prove or explain, define.

Duplicitous Compensation: Compensate for an inability to challenge an ideal that threatens, or one's own incapacity, impotence, to propose a superior alternative, by slandering the proponents of these theories, indirectly making one's own incompetence a unifying universal settlement, and surrender, requiring no justification, validation, explanation, definition.
A suicidal mind will slander all who can find something to live for, to justify his own suicidal tendencies, which he rarely wants to carry through to their end.  
He simply wants all to becomes suicidal, sharing in the same misery and cowardice to follow through, so as to make all coping mechanisms equally valid.

He feels superior to the positive Nihilist because having gone through that stage he feels he's more mature, having outgrown childish methods. He knows all life is meaningless, and all ideas worthless, but lacking the courage to end his existence he comforts himself with pulling all down to his level, to make his cowardice less shameful, and to wait out a miserable, worthless, pointless, for him, existence.
He will not leave anyone behind to enjoy living.

Memetic de-programmer = anarchist, rebel, destroyer, cynic, emancipator, anti-life.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Thu Sep 21, 2017 2:56 pm

Bipolar Existential Psychosis
Nihilism
(Binary/Dualistic)





"Positive" Nihilism

Extrovert
World is not Enough - Unsatisfying
Deceit, Hypocrisy. Willful deceit - creator
Meaning in the noetic, imperceptible, unseen.

Semiotics used to project a satisfying correction into world.
Extrovert projects noetic constructs as alternatives as covering, for a world that fails to gratify him - narcissism, arrogance, compensating for insecurity, feebleness.


Λ
Extrovert finds in the Introvert validation, what possibly might satisfy.
The Introvert fails to meet his desires, so he must accumulate followers, popularity, quantities of dependent minds.
Salve/Master Dynamic - Co-Dependency
Introvert finds in the Extroverts projections the absolute he is seeking.
The extrovert fails to make the world bearable, so the introvert remains insecure  and dependent, seeking at the same time an alternate source to submit to.  
V


Introvert
World is too Much - Unbearable
Self-Deceit, willful ignorance - innocence  
Meaning is in the noetic, idea(l), other.  
Semiotics attached to to make world bearable.
Introverts attaches to any noetic construct offering absolutes, certainty, order, exposing a deep insecurity, need.  


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"Negative", or authentic Nihilism

World is not Enough - Unsatisfying
All is illusion, meaningless, pointless.
Semiotics = all symbols/words are meaningless arbitrary, social manmade constructs, ergo their negation can also be manmade, arbitrary.
Pull down all who think the world is enough. reduce all to misery and disillusionment.
Vengeance against Positive Nihilists, presented as maturing, as enlightenment - awakening to cynicism.
All human words are fake, all human ideas are propaganda.


V
Independence - implosion of psyche
Extrovert uses his vengeance, his resentment to avoid being an Introvert - justifying his continued existence - cowardice.
Introvert used the Extrovert to further validate his suicidal tendencies - suicide is immanent when survival instinct is overwhelmed by an unbearable world.
Λ



Introvert
World is too Much - Unbearable
Semiotics = all symbols/words are attempts to exploit and manipulate.
World and self must be destroyed - suicidal, self-destructive.



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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Wed Oct 04, 2017 7:57 pm

An interesting fact about nihilism, compared to realism or paganism.

Nihilism needs new recruits, pressurization, to survive, because its idea(l)s are detached from reality, and can only survive in the mind.
Realism is the reverse, to this inversion.
It does not need new recruits, professionalization, because it refers to phenomena in the world, that need no mind to continue existing, but only to be perceived and used. In fact, for realists to convince, to spread this understanding is against their interests, because the fewer that know, and understand, the less competition exists.
The only threat to realists, from nihilists, is their quantities, that threaten to drown quality, in a world void of accessible frontiers, and a world where advantage is regulated, so that feebleness is not threatened.
So, nihilists need to convince others, to have a following, and realism, does not care, and in fact loses an advantage if there are masses of converts, but only in a world where advantage is not strictly regulated and prohibited.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:09 am

Reproduction specialization, called gender roles, express themselves in every aspect of the human condition, and so also philosophically, or how the individual is inclined to relate to reality.
Nihilism, as a by-product of an organism awakening to world and its own place within it, or what we call self-consciousness, also manifests two distinct variations of world annulment – masculine & feminine forms of nihilism.
One, I call ‘positive’ (masculine), because it constructs alternatives to what is missing in the world, and what it desperately requires to cope with it, and himself within it; the other I call ‘pure’ (feminine) as it expresses a submission to what is desired but absent, even if it will outwardly pretend so that it retains an advantage.
Woman, as agency of nature, is in eternal conflict with herself - feminine mystery. She cannot deny chaos, like a man can deny it.
This does not mean she is aware of it herself, nor that if she is that she will admit it.
The former projects into the world ‘missing’ what is needs, what it constructs in its own mind; the latter is desperate but unable, or unwilling, to create and to then believe in its own creation, so it seeks what it desires in others, though it may not fully buy into them.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:37 pm

A memetic virus mirrors the strategy of viruses that affect the body, it also follows the same life-cycles: 1-Attachment, 2-Penetration, 3-Uncoating, 4-Release, 5-Assembly, 6-Biosynthesis.
For a memetic virus, such as Nihilism, the transmission is via symbols/words, and the same cycle is this:
1-Attachment: mind comes in contact with a nihilistic idea(l) in text, or word of mouth narrative.
2-Penetration: abstractions penetrate the mind as ideas, in the form of metaphors.
3-Uncoating: nihilistic virus gradually unfolds its meaning, corrupting pre-existing ones.
4-Release: New abstractions arise, that have no reference to reality, or that directly contradict what is experienced.
5-Assembly: these abstractions are combined into new unities, contradicting the sensually perceived world.
6-Nihilistic meme enters the core of the mind’s conceptualizing, gradually detaching it from reality, and engulfing it in tis subjective, private uni-verse, of self-referring absolutes.  
The absolute is taken literally rather than as a simplification/generalization constructed by the brain itself.  



Since we are analysing a memetic virus that mirrors genetic, or physical, viruses, we must describe it in memetic terms.
A memetic virus enters the mind as symbols, such as numbers/words, socioeconomic, cultural images, carrying with it meaning.  
The mind must be primed for the virus to be effective, making it inconsequential to all life that does not share the ability to learn and react to signs, and to associate them with specific emotions, images, concepts, meanings.



Since we are analysing a memetic virus that mirrors genetic, or physical, viruses, we must describe it in memetic terms.
A memetic virus enters the mind as symbols, such as numbers/words, socioeconomic, cultural images, carrying with it meaning.  
The mind must be primed for the virus to be effective, making it inconsequential to all life that does not share the ability to learn and react to signs, and to associate them with specific emotions, images, concepts, meanings.
Its meaning detaches the mind from reality, and gradually places it in a catatonic state – inverting; turning inwards, esoteric, narcissistic.
In some cases it results in fragmentation as parts of the mind remain true to the original genetic programming and others succumb to the virus – compartmentalization, or what Orwell described as ‘double-speak’.
Jaynes described it as Bicameral Mind – the gradual emergence of self-consciousness, being experienced as an external will speaking inside the organism’s mind.
He claimed the Homeric Age was full of such instances of confusion.
What we now call conscience, or internal dialogue, was believed to be spirits, and then gods, speaking directly into the mind.
A type of schizophrenia brought about by superstition and ignorance.
Town-Square Messiahs, and hermits, claimed to be hearing god speak to them.

The nihilistic virus has a different effect.
It slowly detaches mind, at the nervous system, from body, the physical, or from world, from phenomena.
The sick mind falls into a state similar to the process of dying. It becomes oblivious to the world outside itself - passing away, while still living.
The sick individual falls into deep sleep - narcosis, a coma. Its brain continues to produce imagery only it can experience.
With this virus the mind seeks to assimilate other minds into its dream-world, or its esoteric mythology, drawing sustenance from the text  it was originally infected by.
It may be given an idol, or find one, or construct one out of a dead man who represents its ideal, corresponding to its deepest needs and fears.
The idol becomes a go-between, a proxy, it continues to live through.

The world is no longer of any relevance to it. What passes through its narcosis is ignored or is integrated into its dream-world, as validation.
World no longer challenges it, but inhibits it, or serves to validate its dream-world.
World is not engaged but selectively sampled, or completely ignored.
In its mind it begins to live its fantasies, its ideal life, no longer able to deal with reality.
In nature something similar occurs when a prey is taken down and is devoured while still living.
The animal seems oblivious, as if it does not know what is happening to it. The brain flooding its system with natural narcotics, saving it from the worse pain it can ever experience.
Something similar occurs with individuals that have experienced a traumatic event - one they cannot deal with without risking madness or severe damage.
The mind compartmentalizes it and pushes it out of consciousness - it forgets.
But not entirely. Triggering stimulation may resurface the memory, or they come out in dreams as nightmares.      

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:25 am

The simplest organism uses its primitive senses to distinguish patterns,
It has no culture telling it what to see and how to interpret it.
It has no education to direct its judgments.
It has an evolved a simple but effective way to discriminate.

Only the human organism, infected by a mental parasite, can be convinced that what it perceives as different is, in fact, the same, or that what it perceives is not actually so, or that it is illusion, or that it is actually the opposite of what it appears to be.
Only one organism can be trained to selectively discriminate and to trust its own evolved sensual awareness, formulating or adopting all kinds of excuses to discredit them.
Do other animals require a PhD in molecular biology to distinguish what is edible from what is toxic to it?
Do other animals require third-party affirmation to judge what their own senses are exposing them to?
They may not know what makes the other different, but they know that it is different.
They may not know why they are attracted to another but they are attracted to it.
They may not know why one mate is more fit than another, but they know it because they've evolved an intuitive method of judging.
Only humans have developed an entire philosophy to discredit their own awareness and to become cognitively blind to what is sensually obvious.
Only the human animal, the manimal, has developed an entire list of excuses to disregard his own evolved intuitions, and to substantiate theoretical abstractions that have no sensual validation.
Why?
Because only the manimal can develop a memetic virus that would be in conflict with its genetic dispositions.
An insane primate.
A manimal that delves into internal fabrications to escape a world that will not go away, and that is shared by all living organisms.
A sick, depraved manimal capable of exceptional deceit.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:20 am

Translating, and/or interpreting, the phenomenon into a noumenon is the simplification of stimulation into neural impulse, producing in more primitive organisms, a localized reaction that cascades throughout it via the process of (inter)action – cell interacting with cells in its vicinity.
The process evolves from translation to interpretation and from simplification to generalization.
Stimuli are translated into nervous energy, also producing a localized effect, simplified to nervous energy, and then transmitted, via the nervous system, to the brain where it is interpreted, connected with other nervous energies into relationships of meaning, called generalizations.
Most of the data is lost in the process of translation, transmission, and interpretation, making the inclusion of details a measure of data that is not lost but incorporated into the generalized interpretation – abstraction, mental model.
The more data included in the abstraction, in a cohesive harmonious ‘whole’, the more sophisticated the mental model, or the interconnections that give meaning to what is received.
From the start, the translation from stimuli to nervous energy is a simplification of the phenomenon into what can then become noumenon. This describes a reduction in the amount of possibilities being processed – dimensional reduction.
Therefore, when we speak of translation and interpretation we mean a cutting away of spatial/temporal dimensions. More primitive organisms cut-away more dimensions, processing only a fraction of probabilities, unable to process spatial possibilities.
Plants, for example, have no capacity to perceive space/time, possibilities, but only deal with probabilities with their immediate (inter)actions with patterns, or what is ordered.
More sophisticated organisms can deal with space/time possibilities as the not immediate but the theoretical possible. They can pre-empt immediate contact by using memory – precedent.
Plants have a rudimentary form of it in that their genes are stored memories, produced by past experiences – experiences (nurturing) that preceded their emergence and passed on to them via reproduction.
Sophisticated organism, such as mammals, have an additional pool of stored memories due to their brains – experiences.
Experiences may produce reactions that come in conflict with genetic memories, beginning the process of mind/body conflict.
Here is where Nihilism takes root, beginning as a neurological discomfort, seeking relief.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:37 am

Only the human manimal can use the (re)actions to its own automatic processes of translation and interpretation to discredit them, or to synthesize an alternative that have no external reference, or invert it, essentially believing the opposite of what it perceives.
Only the human manimal is capable of this kind of self-induced neurosis, as it strives to escape from the reality of itself and the world it finds itself within.
A by-product of self-consciousness.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:08 pm

Worship of the un-real, the surreal, that which cannot be presented as phenomenon nor expressed using 'common language' is an indirect method of worshipping death.
It is death worship masked as positive perspectives, feel good outlooks, and pseudo-intellectual jargon.
It is a way of manipulating vanity, not as an outlook but as a cover.

Same as when a moron purchases a nonsensical piece of f-Art to adhere to peer pressure and the popular image of enlightenment.
Th buyer has no clue, nor can he make sense of what he is purchasing, but does so to pretend that he does....like the books on the bookshelf of his 'study' is supposed to imply that is is cultivated that he knows and he understands.
Best we can hope for from such douche-bags is that they know and can defer and refer to, such as Hume, Nietzsche, Spengler, Schopenhauer etc. as if they actually understood, beyond their subjective, emotional interactions.
Like a Liberal who listens to Wagner without a clue as to what he is listening to and what it means.
I would say that all Nihilists re clueless about their theoretical naive utopias, because they have no experience with them.
They exist as mythological, literal, realm their naivete can escape into.

Like the theoretical world where no conflict exists and all are equal and nobody suffers.
It's the self-serving hope pushed to its compartmentalized extreme.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:15 pm

Worshipping the dead is the idolization of those who cannot answer, cannot contradict, cannot challenge.
Dead thinkers, dead ideas, dead ideals; theories with no pragmatic success, no precedent, no reference other than in theory, as idea(l), as noumenon.
Death worshipping is the worshipping of what cannot contradict with presence, cannot respond.
It is the overtaking of presence to substitute it with theory, with ideals; with naive, infantile fantasies – mythology taken literally.
Ideals constructed in the mind, like toys – and have no application outside of it.
Manchild, Hebrew ideals, attracting only infantile womanly spirits.
They are ideals of the slave, dreaming of a fast and easy escape from his predicament.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Fri Dec 15, 2017 8:31 pm

Transsexualism and this recent invention of new terms to describe gender identities is part of Nihilism and its implied occult esotericism.
What does the transsexual claim?
That his/her identity is a subjective construct, and he would rather be the one who decides.
His reasoning is based on an innate, invisible, internal 'spirit', or soul that feels out of place in the body it occupies or in the identity it was given by society – collective subjectivity.
Tangible physical body is replaced by intangible, theoretical, spirit.
(S)He also claims that language is inadequate to define what he is, or how he feels, and that new words have to be invented to define 'it', or that old words have to be redefined, or used in unconventional ways.
The same dis-ease expressed through a different symptom.
A dis-ease linguistically based and passed from host to host – memetic virus and/or parasite.
Because language is what defines culture, or meme, it can then be claimed that all social identities are a matter of symbols – referring to abstractions.  
This relates to money and how it has been detached from the gold standard.
With no tangible standard to evaluate money in relation to other commodities the concept of money becomes entirely abstract, and because everything can be purchased using money, everything has an abstract value founded on a shared judgment, or a personal (subjective) one.
Furthermore, since money refers to numbers, and they are a type of language, therefore everything is a matter of social conventions or personal judgments.
Money can refer to anything and purchase anything... and so all language can be applied to anything, and define anything.
Marxism and Capitalist materialism converted to the abstraction of symbols (numbers/words).
It follows from a simple premise: all can be converted to symbols, and all symbols can be detached from the tangible and made abstract, therefore all identity can be invented and connected to feelings, whims, fashion, or whatever standard the individual, or the collective chooses to use.
Misers still practicing shameless usury.
The delusion that money can compensate for everything nature denied to the individual, and that the individual can sell his/her body, sacrifice it, to buy a new spirit, and pay it off yearly.
Debt slavery is the primordial sin converted to Marxist/Capitalist economics.

The meaning of value is lost to subjectivity.
Its true meaning is a reference to a juxtaposition in relation to a tangible goal, or in relation to the self and its physical needs/desires.
Now it can mean anything, to anyone, at any time.
Bread can fluctuate according to supply/demand becoming the tangible, but what of intangible concepts, like love, fame, truth?
These can have any cost, because it's all subjective.....therefore all must be made subjects and all attempts to make them tangible is to deny them their subjectivity.
Subjectivity is code for American individualism - freedom. Freedom from king and country, from god, but more importantly from the past, and from its determined manifestations which are present - presence, or appearance.
Money can buy you freedom from your authoritarian past, made apparent.
It's a liberation from the apparent, and an escape into abstraction, the intangible the theoretical....the subjective, or esoteric, occult.

The weakness the virus exploits is found in this anxiety concerning the inescapable past, and in the desire to flee from it, to be freed from it, because the past is not 'in the past' but it is presence.
What is the only factor that makes absolute determinism fail?
Chaos, defined as randomness.
But for the feeble spirit this is worse than a determining and dissatisfying past.
Fear, becoming thymos and Desire, becoming eros, clash - fragmentation, a shattering of the psyche.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Sat Dec 16, 2017 10:12 am

Similarities between the triad, Judaism, the mother, and the offspring Christianity and Judaism:

Besides the common reference to Abraham as their spiritual father, and Jerusalem as the worldly seat of their shared references, their primary commonality is founded in their status as Religion - not to be confused with spirituality and doctrines such as Buddhism and Hinduism.
Hinduism, in particular is an Aryan spirituality, and Buddhism is a later development, similar to how Christianity relates to Hellenism.  
---All three worship death and dying, indirectly.
---All three are expressions of positive Nihilism.
'Positive' nihilism proposing a linguistic contraption, a symbol, that negates the sensually perceived and experienced world.
---All three believe in an absolute.
Absolute beginning & end.
Absolute one, whole, order, certainty (faith) - absolute order given an anthropomorphic essence, and in the case of Islam and Christianity a form, image - icon.
Judaism refuses to conceptualize their abstraction,l Islam refuses to depict it, and Christianity, affected by pagan idolatry has no qualms.
Christianity is the outcome of Judaism coming in contact with Aryanism through Hellenism.
Cross-contamination is the outcome.
Christianity is the contamination of Aryanism by Judaism, and the splintering of Judaism into Zionism and Humanism, culminating in Marxism, is the contamination of Abrahamism by Hellenism.
Christianity selectively adopts Hellenism, replacing pagan traditions, concepts, metaphors, mythologies with Judaic adaptations of them.
For instance, the multiplicity of the dodecatheon and Hellenic narratives metaphysically representing natural forces with deities and heroes, are replaced by the concept of a triadastic singularity (father/son/holy spirit), corrupting the Platonic concept of psyche (chariot rider and reigns and stallions), corrupting the concept of the Platonic ideal and replacing it with their eternal soul, or perfect spirit, and converting the deities and demi-deities with their saints, and Hellenic Heroes, such as Heracles, with their martyrs.
---All three offer 'salvation' from an undesirable existence....differing only in the method and the time/place, and through which representative - Messiah.
Islam and Christianity have their own, and Judaism awaits him, as the coming of Armageddon.  
Christianity, infected by Hellenic love of world and life, has its icon, its Messiah represent the world's redemption.
Jesus 'redeems the world' to make it anti-nature - cleansing it of its past (primordial sin). Followers, 'true believers' the faithful are the saved in waiting - enduring this life to gain access to the more real reality of an after-life - life via death. What dies is the body, the physical, the phenomenon is destroys leaving only the noetic, mind....renamed soul, spirit.
Point of inversion is the nervous system, where body meets mind. there the Christian places Jesus as a representative, an icon, of inversion, of vague transition from body to mind - rebirth.
Mind is eternal...able to pass-on from body to body through language.
Genetic memories are converted to memetic ones, and the idea(l) can survive in any body that accepts god's word = learns to speak and read the language and to decipher its meaning appropriately, in accordance to Scripture, the shares meme.
God survives as Book, and he is made body by the people of the Book.        
---All three have words, written in Sacred Books, as their reference point, which distinguishes them as Religions.
They place 'word' the symbol, as a representation of mind, above the physical, the sensual, the aesthetically accessible.
Mind usurps body, and body is made into a entrapment, an illusion, a vehicle for the spirit/soul, which is their way of saying mind.
From there we get the current denial of appearance, and the idea that some are trapped in the 'wrong body' or that races and sexes are social construct, because appearances are 'superficial'.
Mind is malleable and can create its own alternate reality by sampling the sensually perceived.
This is comforting to the Abrahamic,a s it is to all Nihilists, including the later to develop secular forms, such as Marxism, humanism and trans-humanism.
Mind can synthesize abstractions into any combination and then represent this invention with a symbol, and give it a name, a word, or a number.
Everything can be invented in a similar manner to usurp the real.
Subjectivity raised to the position of Divine power that rejects and then replaces objective reality, natural order - world.
Natural order is associated with the nil, and depicted by evil, - Satan.
In mathematical language it becomes the 0, in opposition to the positivity of the singularity, the one - 1.
One is the mental abstraction projected to replace fluid reality.
It's 'positivity' is really a negation of what is.
The singularity, the one, cannot be found externally, but can be felt, experienced in some internal alternate realm...in the mind, as a vague concept.  This refers to the mental fabrication of the abstraction that synthesizes stimulation into abstractions, into mental models.
What is worshipped is this mental model, conveniently placed internally where none can test it, nor validate it, not disprove it.
It is the platonic ideal made esoteric, rather than projected in an external, beyond realm, where perfection exist and this world is but a mere shadow of it, as Plato believed.  
We must remember that Plato represents Hellenic decline and his depiction of Socrates is of a man that exposes this decline to itself.
The "gadfly" stinging the Athenian rump.
This imagery is not accidental if we connect it to his image of the psyche and the two stallions that represent passions. Socrates is the horse-fly biting the rump of Athenian passions, in an Athens that has surrendered the chariot, the polis, to their frenzy.
We must also keep in mind his admiration for Sparta if we wish to fully understand why Socrates returns to Athens, after the war, as a changed man. A man that has discovered the wisdom of keeping quiet and not sharing his thoughts with the masses of mediocre minds that do not possess his wisdom.
He is depicted as monotheistic afterwards, as a necessity for the promotion and maintenance of stability within the polis. The masses need an absolute, a certainty, a singular idea - a simplified/generalized idea(l) to submit to.
Multiplicity, of gods, as well as ideas, are a complexity, a burden only the few can bear without drowning in them.
The ideal leader is the one who does not want to lead, and shies away from all positions of authority because he most feels the weight of it - Philosopher King.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Sat Dec 16, 2017 10:51 am

Jews have the Tanakh, later writing the Talmud.
Christians have the Old Testament, later witting the New Testament.
Muslims have the Quran.
Unlike other spiritual texts, the Text is the final reference point.
The words are not metaphorical, representative of a externally validated reality, but are the final reference point, as their basis is linguistic, it is the Word, the symbol that does not represent the externally experienced but usurps it, denies it, contradicts it – annuls it.
Word is the final arbiter.
What is word?
Representation of the nervous system's reaction to world.
Like hedonists make pleasure their all-encompassing meaning, placing the nervous system's reaction as the highest wisdom – the effect as a cause.
The nervous system is where the conversion of phenomenon to noumenon occurs.
It is where body becomes mind, through yet incomprehensible processes.
Processes that translate sensual data into nervous energies and then into sensation, emotion, and finally, in higher life-forms into abstraction.
This is the point of mystification, the narrative of holy inception, when the Holy Spirit comes down to earth to convert the mind into body... an inversion of the process.
God, as mind, pre-exist body, and the body is its creation.
Nihilism inverts everything.
It begins with word, and it also begins as mind as the given that then creates the body - noumenon creating phenomenon, therefore the subjective is all, and the objective world is its construct.
Consciousness precedes world, it does not emerge from it.
This is what Abrahamism is.
This is what the dis-ease called Nihilism is.
Everything is inverted and then this inversion is clouded in linguistic ambiguity, and places in a beyond, or a within, where it cannot be judged by the common mind, even if it had the will and the courage to do so honestly.
Meme precedes genes.
Mind precedes body.
Words, language, semiology, precedes reality.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Mon Dec 18, 2017 10:10 am

Because world, or what we call reality, can only be conceptualized as a singularity, a whole, a one, the mind falls into the error of assuming it is so.
It's an easy step from a shared reality to a oneness.
But reality is fluid, is (inter)activity, it is Flux, so never one, complete, whole, or a singularity.
It requires an artistic mind to comprehend this.
The majority lack the imagination or the courage.

When we speak of subjectivity we speak of a fluid interpretation of world, but when we speak of world we also speak of fluidity.
This is an additional reason consciousness is constant and never final, never ending.

Mind attempts to keep-up with world - this concept has been described as a 'falling away'.
Subjective mind constantly reaffirms reality by interpreting it.....and world is constantly changing, rearranging, and only exhibits patterns of consistency, relative to a human life-span, seeming eternal.
Our laws of logic and nature are these patterns in patterns that predict interactivity.

This is reflected in the process of interpretation which is based no on/off mechanism, producing binary logic and dualism.
What does on/off mean?
This is related to energy/matter being defined as faster/slower rates of interactivity.
A neural pulse (energy), flows through a neural cluster (matter) and this is the state of ON
No neural pulse flows through a neural cluster, an interconnected neurological network of cells, and this is the state we call OFF.
From this simple on/off consciousness is produced, and since it is the mechanism used to think, to be aware, the mind must become sophisticated enough to realize that this is a mechanism interpreting reality. The artistic sensibility.
This evolution is akin to that which realized that self-consciousness was not an external will speaking to the individual, but the individual speaking to itself - Bicameral mind.
For a primitive mind conscience may feel as if some otherness is speaking to it, when it is a different part of he brain becoming aware and criticizing and analyzing the rest of the brain.
Schizophrenia is an evolutionary step towards full consciousness of self.
A condition easily degenerated to in the case of illness, or trauma.
anxiety/fear, relative to world outside brain, can produce schizophrenia as a self-protective mechanism of compartmentalization - where to contradictory opinions can be held simultaneously as being 'true' - or as a way to distance ego from self - mind from body disconnect.

Approach to the objective means a synchronization of the unity of patterns, as a manifestation of past, harmonizing, with the interactivity of patterns (order) we call world.
This would be absolute synchronization and determinism.
Chaos, or random energies, spoil the perfection and make will possible.
In an absolutely determining universe consciousness would be superfluous, or a condition that would require a god, or an alternate reality to justify its emergence and continuance.
Consciousness is necessary only because the cosmos is not entirely governed by order.
Life is the ordering in opposition to randomness. A constant affirmation of order.

Change is not radical, order is.
Liberal have it backwards because they are Nihilists and this dis-ease is characterized by inversion.  
If they are not constructing fantasy realities using code, symbols, words, they are dismissing all language as meaningless.
If they are not worshipping the abstractions in their deal - idealism - they are indirectly worshipping chaos, as a way to escape past, and its manifestation as presence, dreaming of becoming pure noumenon - spirit, mind - leaving the apparent, the physical, the body behind.
This is the secular form Abrahamic transcendence takes.  

How would we identity such a fantasy concept of pure mind - god?
Through the only expression of mind permitted.....language.
'First came the word'....it is written in their shared spiritual code.
Words help them theoretically escape a determining past, cleaning themselves of 'sin', reawakening (reborn) as pure mind - as spirit in gods Scripture, gods word.
Secular Nihilists make themselves gods in training....finding a master to guide them towards their transcendence using symbols/words.
The idol, the icon, must be dead....so as to not blemish the ideal with reality, and acts as the Holy Ghost did in the Biblical tale.
The mind disconnects from the physical, the brain from the body, and becomes thought.....thought is divine, it is omnipotent.
It is not limited by space/time, by dimensional possibilities.
Absolute Subjectivity.
A reality in the brain usurping the one outside of it.
But such an alternate world needs followers, needs other minds to lend it credence and to become assimilated into a shared project.
It has no other way to validate and maintain itself.  
This fits in perfectly with the cycles of the memetic virus that must infect more minds to survive.
Parasite (see [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]) hijacking the organism processes - dominating its will. Hijacking brain, and through brain the body.
The physical, the body becomes a vehicle validating the idea of an external consciousness - a god.

This is not anything terribly innovative. Nature has already evolved such a reproductive strategy.
Neither is nihilism something unique.
It is the natural byproduct of consciousness producing self-consciousness.

Variations of nihilism, as I've noted, are multiple.....because they have no natural order to limit them.
They are noetic, thought.
Restrictions that apply to the real, do not apply to the spiritual, the theoretical, the abstract.
Of course nihilism re-synthesizes the already experienced of world, so this is its only limit - the individual's real life experiences, its second-hand reading, and its imagination.
Then it becomes a matter of connecting the same abstractions in novel ways that are also positive, and seductive.
This alternate reality must be as sophisticated as the kind of minds it seeks to assimilate into its mythology.
In ancient time with an illiterate, more ignorant populace, the mythology could be simpler.
Gradually it has to become more sophisticated, sampling form increasing knowledge of world, to attract a new kind of mind, but with the same weaknesses and cowardice....the same anxieties.
This is how the secular forms of nihilism emerge.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Wed Dec 20, 2017 11:12 am

I'm experiencing the utility of the absent absolute, from all its facets.

We have those who literally use abstractions in their mind, and represented by symbols/words, such as the #1, to justify a belief in it, and then we have the opposite utility and those who use its absence as validation for any and every belief.
For the last the absence of an absolute means an absence of certainty, of absolute truth - an argument from the negative.
Unable to accept gradations of superior/inferior, they resort to a simple method of using the absence of absolute truth as an argument for any truth, for subjectivity.
An opinion is not judged as superior/inferior based on its quality and quantity of references to a shared world but is equated with any and every opinion because man in not omniscient and is still relatively ignorant, therefore, for them, all opinions are equally valid, with the only acceptable criterion being popularity - how many minds lean towards one direction and not the other.

For them this is reason enough to postpone judgment indefinitely.....as unresolved,a s having no final certainty, as being forever debatable.

For example, for Christians their inability to prove their definitions of the word 'god' is converted to a advantage.
It proves their faith, with the sacrificing of reason and logic on the altar of their deity.
The absence of definitive proof is placed on those who are unconvinced - prove a negative, they demand.
Finally, the absence of absolute knowledge is reason enough to not discount the existence of their god.

They then refuse all opinions and definitions as superior because nothing can ever be accepted as such....only absolute certain superiority....never a degree of it.
They dismiss all superior probabilities so as to remain fixed on their preferred possibility.

If there is no absolutely objective, no whole no one, then in their demented psychology, all is equally subjective, unless it is more popular.
Subjectivity is measured as weakness that becomes strength only in quantities.
Qualities are dismissed as subjective.

At the same time they demand that the majority intervene to adjust the cost/benefits of their subjective opinion if and when they dare to apply it, or live by its principles.
Intuitively they know their world-views are emotionally based, and that if they actually lived by them they would suffer grave consequences.
Instead of finding error in their own mind they blame everyone else for the consequences that the majority cannot prevent from affecting them.
So, it's the racist system that is holding their mixed race child back, and their belief that races are social constructs still stands; it's a evil world that prevents the faithful from living up to their own dogma's values; it's the wrong application of Marxism that is to blame for its failure; it's the failing of others that the individual is trapped in a linguistic, moral, conundrum...it's always someone else's fault, because self is never to blame...and when ti is it is placed in equality with all others, because failure must be distributed equally and not be a burden upon the individual.
So, it's not that they, as individuals, are inferior, and weak, but that all humanity is so....and it must be pulled down to their level of inferiority, and weakness....all must fail, if they've failed; all must be mistaken if they've fallen into big mistakes in their lives...all language is meaningless if they've failed to use it properly.

Most of these degenerates do not want a resolution, they worship being lost in confused chaos.
There where they's inadequacies become lost in confusion and their inferiority finds equality in chaos.
The simplest concepts become large philosophical mysteries that have not been resolved because no absolute final answer has been given.
All superior probabilities are accused of arrogance and of presenting the absolute, because their inferiority cannot measure up, cannot offer an alternative, better, answer, a superior definition and explanation.
With no God, no absolute, what is superior has to be degraded and slandered and made to be equal to the feeble and the irrational.

Every opinion is subjective - equally a personal opinion, and any attempt to place the standard outside the mind is rejected, slandered, ridiculed...
Concepts like beauty have to be made subjective because someone may be hurt by placing the standard outside the mind.
Defining concepts like 'love' by using evolution and a pragmatic approach demystifies the word that, for them, must remain mystical and magical and a personal affair.
Defining 'self' as a continuum of memories, demystifies it for them. They need identity to be vague, subjective, mystical, so that men can claim to be trapped in women's bodies...
Defining 'gender' as the memetic application of a genetic, biological, specialized, reproductive role, demystifies it, and takes it away form their subjetification.

Defining any word that deals with the human condition by connecting it to perceptible, testable, verifiable, external behavioural standards is, for them, unacceptable, a threat.
Morality has to remain attached to the mystery of Abrahamism...the "Thou shall not" of a divine omnipotence because to attach it to a evolutionary, social method of survival is too down to earth for these hypocrites to tolerate.
If the mystification of an absolute named God, is absent, then all is left up to the individual's whims - his/her psychology.
All attempts to root it in observable reality is an attempt to present self as a god....in their demented mind.


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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Wed Dec 20, 2017 11:32 am

Unable to offer a superior explanation and theory, the degenerate uses the absence of a final, absolute, certain one, as an excuse to remain unconvinced and faithful to the delusions he has attached himself to in order to remain sane and to not feel ashamed.
Unable to offer a more objective opinion he wants to tear all down to his/her level of subjectivity, seeking emotion, self-comforting, self-flattery, delusion, narcissism, egotism in everyone else - projecting his own guilt, and unburdening himself from its shame.
He cleanses himself with an admission of sin.....but wants to project ti on everyone else, to feel pure and honest in his self-deceit.
He wants to become innocent by accusing all of a crime - all are guilty, therefore my admission is my purification, my weakness is my strength.
All are guilty - but I am free because I accept this guilt.
I am clean because I confess.

The abrahamic dogma..
All must admit to being equally guilty, becomes ....all are equally ignorant, therefore my admission of ignorance places me in gnosis - I know that I know nothing.
All must admit to being equally weak, because there is no omnipotence, therefore no superior/inferior strength, only equality in feebleness - I know I am weak, is a strength.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Wed Dec 20, 2017 12:53 pm

Every and any absurdity can be justified and validated when you redefine the words that are used to represent them.
Like the words - God, Love, Man, Woman, Morality, Truth, Value, Self etc.

Proper definitions are not only rooted in a collective symbolism, called language, and represented by a text called ''dictionary' reflecting a shared history, but also by a shared reference point in what we call 'world' or 'reality'.

Symbols/Words connect historical past, with immediate presence.
The symbol/word (language) is a nexus connecting gene to meme, in a continuum - connecting noumenon with phenomenon, through sensual perceptions; connecting idea(l) to real.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Wed Dec 20, 2017 1:07 pm

The advantage of Nihilism is that it redefine words in ways that cannot be proven sensually, forcing the evidence internally where anything can be used as justification if it has some payback.

When the Abrahamics changed the Hellenic definition of the word 'god' they mystified it and made it provable only internally.
Made the concept provable only esoterically - a private, subjective matter of faith and belief.

Abrahamics and secular nihilists, Moderns, do not want top define words externally - they reject all evidence, all relationships that are not internal.
They degrade language, so as to reinvent it, only accepting the dictionary as a necessary part of communication, and refusing all means that are not personal and subjective.  

'Beauty' cannot be externalized and measured using a standard all can be held accountable to....no, it must remain subjective, so that nobody is ever hurt, is ever made to suffer.
Hellenic definitions of beauty, as symmetry and proportionality, are rejected, because beauty, the word, must remain mystical, and only experienced internally - in the eye of the beholder.
'Truth' if it is not absolute, means private conviction.
God, if it is not Abrahamic absolute order, must mean nothing.
'Race', 'Sex', take your pick.
Denying it its potential hurtfulness the individual mind is trying to prevent it in himself.
His 'altruism' is self-serving....and to hide it he must accuse the other of it - his shame is converted to guilt and projected upon the other.

Guilt is expunged with admission, confession....and the making of amends, which usually includes a form of ritualized proselytizing - the world must admit its own sinfulness....means, it must be brought down to guilt, and then it must, it ought, to cleanse itself by admitting to it; all must confess to the same guilt, to bring about the 'good world' - Utopia: paradise on earth.

Although the definition of the word 'god' is nonsense, it is now the endless topic of debate, forcing all into a shared state of ridiculousness.
Just like the word 'absolute'.
How do some attempt to deny the Abrahamic definition of 'god'?
Well by constructing an equal, to it, word - just as ridiculous and absurd.
The atheist is pulled into the theist's delusions, and dialogue is over a word that is nonsensical -  'truth is there is no truth' and 'there is a absolutely no absolute' expresses this nonsensical state of being trapped in Nihilistic rhetoric.

The nihilist has only the word to show as evidence, and his usage of it to express conviction, certainty, emotional vigour, ego, and so on...
He cannot show an absolute - an indivisible, immutable, perfect, whole, singularity - but he can speak the word associated with his feeling, emotion, sensation, abstraction.
Same goes for the words, god, beauty, love, truth, race, sex, and so on....
They all describe an internal process, because they are intentionally defined in ways that have no external reference.
They are purposefully made subjective, to escape objective reality....which cares not.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Wed Dec 20, 2017 1:20 pm

If you are trying to use words to self-gratify, to comfort yourself,t o flatter yourself,, to masturbate then ti si an easy affair.
Of course those who masturbate know that some form of external stimuli makes the experience more enjoyable, so how do Nihilists compensate for the absence of an external reference?
They place their delusions, their definitions and references in another's mind - usually a dead icon....or in some beyond, or beneath alternate universe.
Fantasy becomes more enjoyable with such projections.

Obsession and addiction to other, to an-other, is the outcome.
Icon is idealized, and if gone, if discredited, it is quickly replaced with a new one.


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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Wed Dec 20, 2017 1:23 pm

Abrahamic, made secular humanist - Nihilist - absolves himself of shame by adopting guilt, and then absolves himself of guilt by accusing an-other, or by accusing all of his own guilt.
Decreasing its effect by sharing it.
Neurosis is shame that cannot be expunged by the admission of guilt, and by this method of projecting.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Wed Dec 20, 2017 6:09 pm

Evaluations of degrees, of a cost/benefit analysis, is simplified to the simpler binary either/or absolutism.
If not all, then nothing.
If, for me, nothing, then nothing for all.
If all for everyone, then all for me.

It's simple, quick and very intuitive.

On/Off switching....dualities, binary.
1/0 - One/Nil
Either/Or...good/evil....Good/Bad...God/Satan....friend/foe....
Conscious/Unconscious.
Sympathy/Antipathy
Love/Hate

Love = perfect, good, absolute positive.
Hate is the negation of it - its inversion.

No gradations, no degrees, no superior/inferior.
It would be like mathematical language minus fractions.

If you love life then life is perfect, whole, complete.
If you show the slightest negative them you negate its love....you hate life.
if you love your family, then they can only be loved if they are perfect, whole, ideal.
If you love your children and wife, they are perfect - they ought to be, at least in your mind.
You must not admit to an imperfection otherwise its a blemish that negates the absolute perfect love.
Subjectivity helps...it's all in the 'eye of the beholder'.
If you love your wife, she must be beautiful, smart, perfect in every ways, otherwise you are admitting a blemish that spoils the ideal, the perfect, the absolutely divine.

Erotic blindness...frenzy of passion.
Not rational agape where the friend, the loved one is loved despite his imperfections and in relation to others and their blemishes.
Either/Or...it all is pure, or it is all tainted.
In the state of lust/love, erotic frenzy, your lover can do no wrong. Everything he or she does is perfect, cute, amazing.....and as passion dissipates over time what was amazing is mundane, and what was a cute quirk becomes an annoying habit.
Now the ex-lover can do no right.

The enemy is always void of all virtues, and the friend always void of vices.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Wed Dec 20, 2017 6:20 pm

Immunizing against a virus has to be adjusted to the degree the virus has taken hold of the host's processes; how much of its original biology has been corrupted and infected.
First diagnosis is whether the patient can be saved, or if he is too far gone to be returned to his original state.
Second is what parts of its organization can be salvaged and how much has to be amputated - surgically removed.
Third is an evaluation of the patient's constitution, and if its body can take the interventional surgery - how well it can endure the trauma.
Then the doctor has to map out the infected areas with meticulous precision, and keep a steady hand.

The easiest method is to immunize the child before it is infected - preventative medicine.
All other methods are desperate measures.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Wed Dec 20, 2017 6:25 pm

Cosmetic surgery is always about covering-up, and hiding the accumulated trauma of dis-eases, and/or event(s).
We can include the accumulated effects of interactivity, and the friction, upon the body, leaving behind traces and weakening its ability to repair the damage.

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