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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Wed Dec 20, 2017 11:07 pm

How do Abrahamics symbolize their ideological liberation from the physical world that binds them and damns them to need/suffering?
Where do they place the point of their distinction from other organisms, including humans who have not been chosen to be freed, or have not found their liberation?

In the symbol/word.
Logos.
The animal that speaks is the animal with a soul, meaning the words outlive the body, the meme outlives the gene, the idea in the mind, outlives the body.
The animal that speaks is the animal that can be saved from the physical, the corporeal....and they are willing to sacrifice body to gain a symbolic eternity.

But what is speaking through the hosts?
The parasite, the memetic virus, the dis-ease, putting the body in a feverish frenzy, in a narcosis, full of delusions, dreams....
How numb the body feels to the mind that becomes detached from it.
A feeling of liberation. The mind soaring into fantasy unhindered by the physical, the tangible, the real, all too real.
In the fever the mind can dream of being king, emperor, god, as it slowly rots in its self-induced  coma.
Misery loves company.
The ill ones will want to make all ill, and then redefine the meaning of the word 'health'.
What does 'health' mean, when all are sick - in an infirmary?
It means the same as 'beauty' and 'love' to the ugly and the desperately lonely...to those willing to sacrifice intellectual integrity just in the hopes of finding a lifetime of mind-numbing bliss.

If you can say it, it is so.
If you can speak the words, write them down, make them tangible on paper, as art, then the inside is placed outside....the ideal is converted to the physical.
If you can convince a few desperate, cowards, then popularity becomes the external validation.
The lie becomes the truth if enough believe it.
What did the Jews learn from the Nazis?
Goebbels, Joseph wrote:
If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.
A nice Hebrew name for a good Christian socialist.

Shelter the people from the costs, repeat a pleasing, a positive, lie, and they will be your minions.
Watch the transsexuals and the women.
Sheltered, they repeat a pleasant lie, not fearing the consequences, demanding the State intervenes on their behalf, when reality comes too close for comfort.
Shelter the Negroes, tell them a pleasant lie, free them from their genetic past - the sum of all their past nurturing - and then intervene when they fail to measure up to the standards....or lower the standards to accommodate their lower performances.

The nihilist believes that if he can fool the world for long enough, then his lie will become truth.
Why is he so naive?
Because of his lack of talent regarding language, and art in general.
Because of his cowardice and desperation.
Because of his NEED.
Having been conveniently convinced that all hurtful categories are really social constructs; having been given a world detached from reality and made mystical, idealistic, theoretical; having associated humanity with world, he believes that by changing the minds of men, he is changing reality itself, and that if he convinces enough of them he is altering reality.
He is trapped in the comforting embrace of his linguistically supported subjectivity. A warm womb of naive idealism.
If he awakens to find himself in the cocooning cubicle, in his noetic pod, surrounded by sleepers like himself, he may want to fall asleep again, and to return to his dreams, or he may desire to destroy the world, meaning humanity, because he cannot endure the real world, beyond the simulations and simulacrum.
How can he live in a world where he is a constant reminder of how weak and cowardly he is; how unable to endure it?
How can he look at himself when his appearance reminds him of his shameful past, and all the mistakes he made trying to escape its determinations?
How can he hope to compete?
He would rather destroy competition, and conflict, or destroy the entire world, than risk being exposed as what he truly is.
How can a boy raised in a sheltered world, believing he is extraordinary and special, endure waking up to a world where he is barely mediocre?
How much money would he need to compensate?
How much self-deceit could he purchase?

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Thu Dec 21, 2017 6:48 pm

Top<>Down thinking, begins with the goal, the idea(l).
Presented as utopia, paradise, solution - as singularity, one, whole.
With nihilism it begins with a symbol/word.
It then works backwards integrating phenomena into the already established noumenon.
Its 'creativity' resides in how it can redefine and rename reality so as to fit it into the 'given'.
For such minds the world is only a problem in as much as it resists integration into the starting, self-referential, cohesive, idea(l).
Everything, including that which contradicts it, is re-formed and baptized, to integrate it.
The idea(l) remains unchallenged. All is eventually renamed and reshaped.
This is why the starting symbol/word is always vague, and mystical.
If it were not then the process would be impossible, and futile.
The starting premises, placed on the pinnacle, remains as obscure as required for the slow integration, towards the base, spreading to encompass all reality - a pyramid.
In Nihilism the pyramid is inverted, placing the point of departure in the individual. In his mind (subjectivity) - as idea(l), upon which the entire cosmos is to be balanced, in an ever-expanding arc.
A feat impossible, in reality, but entirely plausible in theory, because all this is occurring in the mind.
The individual is the focal point, out of which the entire universe is created; seemingly 'upward' when it is inverted downward; seemingly outward when it is inverted inward.

The individual is convinced he is exploring reality hen he is expressing his reaction to it.
The symbol/word is usually what the individual feels most vulnerable and anxious about.
It represents his greatest need.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Fri Dec 22, 2017 4:53 pm

I enjoy watching nihilists in dialogue.

Their point of contention is a word, is the word, and how to define it internally, making a final agreement impossible.
They all detach it from world and then mystify it - which means to convert the word from a reference to a phenomenon into one that refers only to a noumenon, an ideal.
The tangible, experienced is converted to a theoretical abstraction that can only be shared linguistically, and not shared as an experience outside the mind.
If it were outside the mind a final agreement would be possible.

Then the issue becomes one of determining which version is more pleasing, is more hopeful and emotionally rewarding, and which is most believable, or is self-consistent, has a coherence that even a man-child can appreciate and embrace, having matured out of his earlier infancy.
He needs more believable fairy-tales. Same themes, only housed in more mature-sounding rhetoric.
Debates can continue forever, because there is no external, independent, standard to hold both accountable to it.
It becomes political, and politics is marketing, and marketing is about emotional manipulation and selling dreams to needy feeble fucks.

But there's a different manimal to be found in all this.
He appears rational, skeptical, until you realize he is averse to nihilistic idealism because he's fallen head over heals for it, in the past; has been its 'sucker', and is now cynical to all positive sounding propositions, using language.
What is his maturation process in lieu of his incapacity to trust his own judgment, and having been disillusioned, has become weary of all opinions and all judgments - his own and those of others?
His 'solution' is akin to that used by a heart-broken old maid that, in her dying spinster years, has decided that all men are liars, cheats, and savage exploiters of innocent girls.
He decides that having no mind to judge, because his mind has let him down repeatedly, that the easy solution is similar to that which evolves into a fear of darkness - fear of what cannot be justified, erring on the side of caution, so as to save self from possible, unforeseeable, damage.
Self-protective tactic.
Fear of darkness evolves in diurnal species that are essentially 'blind' when the sun falls and the moonlight is insufficient.
This Modern creature feels 'blind' to the world, because he has fallen into traps only social sheltering has prevented from becoming physically permanent. All that remains is the psychological scarring that is expressed in an automatic wincing....like when you've been struck so many times that the slightest movement causes an automatic, exaggerated, reaction.
This creature has a similar uncomfortable reaction to words.
He is so reluctant to trust them that he must seek popular judgment to appease his anxiety. He defers to popular judgment, because his has failed him.
He cannot trust words, especially those referring to his wounds.
So, how does this creature deal with his fear?
He sides on the side of caution, and dismisses all words, except those that are trivial and harmless, as being meaningless.
Innocuous platitudes.
Unlike the more macho manly 'positive' nihilist, overcompensating for his emasculation with bravado and the esoteric mystification of language, by disconnecting them from reality and making them tools to exploit and be exploited, this more feminine psyche rejects all language, like a jilted lover.
'Hell has no wrath like that of a spurned female'.
He, now a she, refuses to reconnect words to their rightful place, fearing that her exposure to the real world will be worse than the hurt she suffered when she fell in love with pretty words, spoken by charming boys.
Words that were proven to be empty of all substance.
She disarms others of the power words had over her.
Our girl has grown-up into a bitter woman who cynically denies all substance to words, and like all aging minds places her last hopes on the social netting, hoping to live-out her last days, trying to forget and to forgive.

On and on they will go....back and forth, debating the word 'god' for instance, when both have defined it by first detaching it from reality, and not as the Aryans defined the word.  
The dialogues happens within the nihilistic paradigm - ping pong for imbeciles.
Positive Nihilism, contra pure Nihilist - one/nil....Binary dualism.
Absolute one, or absolute nil.
An abrahamic battle of nit-wits...only one side now identities with secular nihilism, Marxism, or some version of the Frankfurt School.  
A meaningless debate over a meaningless word - a word purposefully made meaningless.
A word that refers only to abstractions in the mind....and has no reference in the world, as it did for the Indo-Europeans.

Then, when ping-pond with one ball tires....a new ball replaces it....a new meaningless word.
They mistake the back and forth for open-minded intellectual debate, when its the back and forth of idiots playing with words.
Pick a toy....a word. Make it plastic, artificial.
Make it meaningless, by disconnecting it from reality, from the earth.
Make the word into an idea that cannot be exposed as being wrong because it is entirely subjective - divine they call it.
Divine or magical.

Shall we play with the word 'love' or will it be 'morality' just to pretend we have complicated interests?
Take the word that refers to a behaviour, an observable, testable, perceived interaction, and make it divine - mystify it, by cleaning the earthy mud away.
Make it mystical, magical, subjective.
It must be subjective because in this game, everyone plays and nobody wins and so nobody loses....so nobody has to improve their game-play.
All will 'agree to disagree' in time....and nobody is keeping score, except that of the crescendo of cheers and jeers.
See, this game is not about rules and lines and points, or determining who is best, but it's about style, form....
Doesn't matter if you hit the ball with talent and accurately strike a point within the game space, but only that you swing with charm and a bit of feminine elegance....maybe with a pirouette, or an impressive leap and cry.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Sat Dec 23, 2017 6:35 am

It's interesting to analyze the progression of this mental dis-ease over the centuries.
Early Abrahamism had dissociated god and self from the corporal realm – their brain was partially detached from the body.
They believed they were 'spirits' trapped in the mundane world, spirits trapped in the body.
Spirits, is a metaphor for mind.
But they still maintained contact with the world via the words male/female and race and so on.
The dis-ease has progressed, for the ones proud of this progression calling themselves progressives.
These days even words like race and sex are no longer connected to body.
Men claim to be trapped in female bodies and women in male bodies.
The body, as a manifestation of past, is an entrapment, because it is not as easily denied and ignored, or not as flexible as the mind is.
Mind is more malleable.
Brain does not feel pain, for one.
It is an organ encased in a skull, like fetus in a womb.
It processes data, including pain, via the nervous system, through the spinal cord.
Moderns are essentially dreaming of becoming mobile paraplegics.
Their mind, now trapped by a body they do not accept, do not identify with, wanting to go rogue – desiring to liberate itself from the limitations imposed upon it by this cumbersome 'vehicle', wanting to soar free from its earthly roots.
Metaphor for salvation, and eternal life is this dream of mind being transferred to a more durable, less limiting, vehicle, to become whatever the dram dreams of becoming, no longer hindered and reminded of its past by the dreadful body.
Entrapment is common with nihilists.
The physical is what the body represents.
Appearance is how the mind experiences the body – visually, sensually.
Everything apparent must be denied by the nihilist, and then replaced by sensations, fantasies, ideas.
Mind wants to go to heaven – wants to go to an ideological realm... a spiritual world, where mind can be anything, dream of being anything.
In paradise there is no need, no suffering... meaning the brain is detached from the body's pain, its physical needs.
Like a dying man slowly loses contact with the world around him, as he slips away, towards death, we can recognize this progression, this passing-away, by his gradual sensual disconnection from reality, from the corporeal world.
We can also see this progression of the dis-ease we name nihilism, and can trace back to ancient times, in Abrahamic spiritualism.
Desire to self-numb, begins with the disconnection from the forces of nature, via the word 'god', and the disconnection from past, from ancestry, through the words 'spirit/soul'.
The words are the real point of detachment in the nervous system.
Christians added the word 'love' to their repertoire of detachments.
With them emotions could also be disconnected from, and converted to external deities - made divine or malicious – God/Satan. This represents their conversion from physical reactions to mental constructs – and this made them more malleable by the mind.
Hate and love no longer visceral, an automatic physical reaction to stimuli, but a matter of choice.
Now, the disease has progressed to also include disconnection from biology, from the apparent, via the words race and sex, male and female.
Gradually words are used to disconnect from world.
This is why both positive and pure nihilists agree on the magical power of words, and that language ought not to be reconnected to phenomena, but be further spiritualized, mystified.
They do not seek clarity, but relish confusion.
Confusion is a symptom of inebriation, of numbness... they want to remain 'high', and avoid the sobering weight of words.
Philosophy replaces religion for the secular nihilist.
In philosophy he can get his 'high', because there words are found in abundance.
It's the perfect discipline to find and detach words from reality, making his numbness more profound, his disconnected deeper.
A spiritual journey towards salvation, with the slow snipping away of mind from body, the noetic from the apparent, the real from the ideal, at the point of connection - the nervous system, represented by language.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Sat Dec 23, 2017 1:24 pm

'truth' another misinterpreted word.
Among the degenerate it is a tautology with reality, rather than a perspective of it.
What this implies is static, whole, complete knowledge of reality, rather than an ongoing adjustment of mental interpretations to constantly changing circumstances....with only the perception of patterns governing the interaction of patterns.
For the degenerates it means absolute perspective, or omniscience, or Godly knowledge.
When they use the term it means, whether they know it or not, that they are in contact with divine knowledge - the indivisible, immutable, singularity, that shifts but does not alter its completeness.
It's a noetic perspective of the entire whole uni-verse., reduced down to a formula, or a symbol, or a word.
M-theory where 'm' stands for myth.

To know the 'truth' is to know god, the divine, for the degenerate...or to know of its existence.
The degenerate may offer a humble admission that he does not know the truth, but only knows of its existence.
Truth is now dependent on faith, and it also promises salvation.
The select few can know of the occult presence of 'truth' and have proven worthy of its secrets.

In Aryanism 'truth' means opinion and/or interpretation of interactivity, in other words existence.
To know truth is to know of a superior interpretation of a fluctuating existence. It is to understand, what is known - to perceive a pattern within the interacting patterns.
but this is not static, final, complete...it is forever falling away, demanding continuous readjustments - this is why consciousness is ongoing and not a final destination.
To perceive patterns in the patterns is to make the immediate less surprising, more predictable.

This implies levels of cognition.
Animals perceive patterns interacting; humans can perceive patterns governing the behaviour of these patterns (we call these natural laws when dealing with phenomena, or logic when dealing with noumena), therefore the next step up is the perception of patterns governing the patterns that govern the interacting patterns.
Patterns are by no means eternal, immutable, final....because interactivity produces attrition, and what we experience as change and measure as time.
Expanding universe is the perception of fragmenting possibilities, produced by (inter)activity.
The process is not so fast as to prevent the emergence of life, but it is continuous.
Dimensions fragment, chaos increases creating a movement toward absolute chaos which is never finalized - we call this linear time.
Now there are two possibilities, at this point....1- either there is an equal and opposite movement toward ordering, creating a universe where life is localized or 2- the movement towards chaos produces the possibility of a new universe emerging, as the expansion of space means an increase in possibility, because space=possibility, therefore the possibility that a near-perfect singularity will emerge becomes increasingly probable.
The second theory implies multi-verses and our own but a link in a chain of endless creation.
The first implies a temporal looping where life is but unaware of ordering and can only experience disordering - emerging as a reaction to it - therefore life=need/suffering.
I'm more inclined to accept #2 as more probable.

Whatever the case may be, 'truth' means no more than interpretation of reality, and interpretations are judged by how accurately they represent what is commonly perceived or experienced.
Truth is another way of saying 'subjective perspective', and these are more or less accurate, never absolute, never final, never complete, whole...because the cosmos is not so.
Absolute truth is another way of saying God in the abrahamic sense of the word....in other words within the nihilistic paradigm.
Secular Abrahamics pretend to have overcome Abrahamic superposition, and to have matured, but they have only altered the words they use to describe the same absurd concepts.
they, for example rename 'god' their one god, using a mathematical abstraction = #1, and think they are advanced and rational, because the symbol is part of scientific jargon.
But if the symbol 1 is understood literally as an absolute, a singularity, then they have replaced God with this secular symbol. They've only changed languages, but remain as childish and obtuse as ever.
Like when they replace English terms with Greek or Latin ones to pretend they are speaking of something intellectual and profound, when all they are doing is translating the same absurdities into another linguistic form.
Their usage of symbols/words is not meant to clarify, to bring forward into the light, into lucidity, but used to mask their hypocrisy and their lies, resting upon the same psychological anxieties.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Sun Dec 24, 2017 5:59 am

The idealization and mystification of symbols/words can only result in contradictions when applied in reality.
Modern cynicism is the outcome of mystifying concepts and idealizing words.
The child grows up expecting to experience 'love' in the manner it has been described to it, as something unreal and magical, only to be faced with its pragmatic and primal nature.
Three ways to react to such an awakening.

1- The child blames itself for the failure, leading to a lifetime of guilt and insecurity.
2- The child blames the world for the failure. The ideal is not questioned, but some 'evil' power is preventing it from being fully realized - conspiracy of others.
Child does not question the definition and its own romantic, idealistic understanding of the word - its divine mystification - but only those who cannot understand it, as it does. It's not him, nor his understanding and usage of the word, but others and their inability to understand and apply the word as it does.
3- The child blames the word itself. All words, in fact.
It's not how it understood it, but the word itself is a trick, a lie, a symbol of deceit. It distrusts all symbols/words, especially those that refer to its vulnerabilities, its wounds.

The proper usage of words is their placement as connectors between noumenenon, and interpretations of world, and the phenomenon, the world of inter-activity.
The word 'love' is not a mystical magical word, referring to a divine, occult force.
It is a word referring to a particular behaviour, an interactivity, with specific functions.
You can feel but more importantly perceive, see love in action.
The word refers to a behaviour, and not to a unreal, hidden force, entity.

We can say the same for words like 'morality', 'human', 'race', 'sex'....and so on.  


I've said this before, but I'll say it again.

Mind connects with body via the nervous system.
Nervous system manufactures abstractions by translating stimulation from inside and outside.
In more sophisticated organisms, with a large brain part of this nervous system, the stimuli are interpreted and given a symbol (word/number).
Language is the nervous system reacting to stimuli and translating them into a form the organism can use.
We can now see that language is the product of the nervous system.  
Therefore language is the link between noumenon and phenomenon.
A lot can go wrong in this process.
The fact that nervous system can be corrupted to detach rather than attach, makes language crucial in this effort.
Language is the point where the mind is disconnected from body, or the ideal is detached from the real, or the noumenon is disassociated from the phenomenon.
The degree to which this occurs determined the degree to which nihilism has infected the organism, via its nervous system, using language as a viral way into its internal processes.  

The memetic dis-ease, I've called nihilism, by properly defining the term that has been appropriated by the dis-ease itself, can now be diagnosed as a linguistic one.
Nihilism is a linguistically based and propagated mental disorder that gradually detached mind from body, the abstraction from the real.
For many of the infected this disconnection is pleasant, because, for them, reality is not flattering, nor acceptable.
The dis-ease spreads within the feeble and desperate, and by exploiting weakness in the organism.

Cynicism is the growing distrust in the organism's own nervous system.
Since misery loves company, the individual spreads this distrust as a way to compensate for its presence.
Romantic idealism is the distrust of the nervous systems of others.
It's not the fault of the symbols/words, nor of its application and usage of them, but it is the fault of someone or everyone else who fail to use and apply the words as it does, or purposefully reject their proper usage.
No matter how many times the word fails to in a successful experience, the individual does not alter its understanding and application of it.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Sun Dec 24, 2017 6:33 am

By placing the nervous system at the centre, or in-between mind/body - a nexus connecting or disconnecting - we may say that Moderns comprehension of 'spirit/soul' refers to this organic network.
They call spirit what is rightfully called mind, and they ascribe to it eternal life, when they ascribe to it symbols/words.
Language outlive the organism, and memes outlive genes.
You cannot kill an idea... you can only discredit and forget it.
Bury it.
The idea, converted to its crystalline form, can remain inert for as long as the material used to encode it endures.
Nihilism can remain in books, as text, for thousands of years, awaiting a host to infect.
Nihilism being entirely and completely noetic, abstract, and existing and reproducing, spreading, through language.
Now we know that nihilism is a neurological dis-ease – a severe reaction to reality.
Turning inward onto itself. Enveloping, cocooning itself in language, suing symbols/words.
Its multiple manifestations, its memes, are how the virus expresses itself outward.
Its primary effect is a disassociation of the physical from the mental – body from mind is alienated.
We see this in anti-racism, anti-sexism dogmas.
Appearance is not essence, for them.
The body is an illusion, or a superficial enveloping of a divine, occult, idealized essence... called 'spirit', or a 'soul'.
Notice how only humans have these mystical constructs... because only humans use language.
Language, or the ability to apply and use symbols, referring to emulate abstractions, is how spirit and soul are defined – logos.
Abrahamism converts logos to the disassociation of mind from body – body being the carrier of primordial sin, and mind the only escape.
Essentially it is a severing of the body from the mind, at the point of their merger – the nervous system.
Moderns express this psychosis in the current identity crisis - man trapped in woman's body, woman trapped in man's body... a demand to control the adjective....
Controlling the adjective is the control over value judgments.
Controlling these result in controlling verbs, and nouns.
The War like no Other takes on its linguistic, semiotic form.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Sun Dec 24, 2017 9:14 am

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Greek intellectual revolution is rooted in their contribution of vowels. Physically, to form vowels you must open the mouth, in comparison to the closed, or tightness of the mouth required to form consonants. This symbolic gesture represents their intellectual openness, reflected in their cosmopolitanism. In contradiction to Abrahamic exclusivity. Christianity and Islam adopted this openness, Islam in its aggressive assimilation of world, and Christianity in its cosmopolitan salvation, or redemption, of world. Contact with Hellenism produced the Christian ideal of universal salvation, but it kept the nihilistic aspects of its original spirituality - anti-life, anti-world, anti-reality.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Thu Dec 28, 2017 3:44 pm

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Yet, the unwise contradict her, and call themselves wise, or do not listen and call themselves aware.
Are you going to agree with nature, or are you expecting her to agree with you?
Nature speaks but Moderns are humming an internal song, and do not heed.
Nature speaks clearly, openly, directly, but Moderns sing louder their own tune, annulling her, burying her voice in their noise.
They prefer their internal voice....singing to themselves a wonderful, soothing, flattering lullaby.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Thu Dec 28, 2017 5:00 pm

Proper definition of words is not only to adhere to the dictionary conventions of a language, and it certainty does not mean to define a word is whatever manner I prefer....it means connecting the word to an apparent phenomena all can perceive.
It is not an arbitrary, subjective, definition based no socioeconomic power... it is the connection of the symbol/word to the real world interactivity, so that when I say 'dog' and another says 'chien' it does not matter that we use different words, except in that we cannot communicate our thoughts to each other,  because what matters is that both words refer to the same phenomenon, the same interactivity of patterns, the same behaviour, appearance...
We may use a different symbol/word but we cannot help, if we are honest and have integrity, but agree about the reference.
Our agreement is not accidental nor based on a power balance....it is based no our sharing the same reality, the same environment, the same world.
If one was raised to call it 'chien', and I was raised to call it 'dog'  is irrelevant, because we both refer to the same phenomenon, the same organism with specific behaviours.
Our evaluation of the dog is also not accidental. We may agree on the benefits or usefulness of a dog because of traits the dog possesses and not because we were raised in a particular way, or use different words to refer to it.
But what if a third calls the chien and dog, a cat...or some other words like 'door' and then justifies this by either claiming the cat is trapped in the body of a dog, or that 'door' can be mystically defined as the esoteric essence of a dog, using poetics to validate this mystification, like a dog pens doors into new possibilities, or opens the human heart to its unity with all organisms so 'door' is the proper name for dog?
Well, you can't reason with such imbeciles, and it is a waste of time to even try.
The first wishes he were not human, or not the human that he is, so he sues the 'cat trapped in a dog's form' as a indirect way to imply his own entrapment...and the moron who uses prose and mystical linguistics to make of the dog a profound concept,, justifying his usage of 'door' is really unable to distinguish himself in any other way but by the convolution of words and then finding gullible imbeciles to buy into his stories.
It's easier to exploit feebleness, and manipulate idiocy, than to distinguish yourself within the confines of natural order. the first is dependent on human genetic inferiority, while the latter is faced with an indifferent hard world that is not swayed by human word juggling.

Just think about how much easier it is to convince a fool that an ass is a car, to actually building a car.
About as easy as rearranging and replacing words to fool a moron that you are inventing a new philosophy, than to actually perceive something new, and offer a insight all can appreciate and share....and test for themselves.
Esoteric is a cop-out....a trick, an excuse for... "I cannot show you, but only tell you, because my truth is 'in here', or 'under there' or 'out there'".  
Renaming a chimpanzee 'Sasquatch' may convince an imbecile that you found a new species, but it will not change the truth about you and your need to do so.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Thu Dec 28, 2017 5:26 pm

harmony and disharmony are juxtapositions of self with an-other...not with self.
It's pointless to say harmonious with self, as if you can be other than yourself, or contrary to it.
A pattern can contradict itself....but only a unity where multiple patterns have achieved a balance we call ;unity' can we say that one pattern is more or less in harmony, or disharmony with another pattern within the same organism.
A pattern on its own cannot contradict itself...and it is superfluous and absurd to even consider it.

A pattern is a rhythm, that can only be in harmony with another rhythm, not with itself.
Self does not apply, outside complex combinations of multiple patterns participating in iterating unities that have found balance in their attraction/repulsion, or their harmony/disharmony with one another.
Such unities are not eternal, and only as strong as the excess attraction, overpowering the internal repulsion.

'Self' has a very specific reference = it refers to the unconscious, or what remain unaware of its unity, while still participating in the same unity.
It is the non-lucid part of consciousness.
Animals, for example, have no concept of 'self' even though they are it, because there is no self-awareness to juxtapose to awareness.
On a metaphysical level, ;self' refers to the sum of all past nurturing...the chain of events, of causation, of memories participating in the emergence of presence.
Therefore, a animal cannot know what preceded its birth, and a human can know little of it...so know thyself, is a command to explore your 'self' your past.
Self is this continuum of memories we have to become aware of, to awaken to, to un-cover., to re-call, to un-forget.
It only applies to organisms, because only organisms can juxtapose, compare, judge...choose.
All other patterns or conjunctions of patterns, such as an atom, have no choice...they have no memory, no self....they cannot juxtapose and choose...they simply interact in the only way their pattern can with other patterns.
All else is mythology and superstition.
The improper use of words exposes deceit, or a motive other than clarity.

Choosing the word 'effect' or 'affect' for example attempts to discount causality by focusing on the effect, like when hedonists choose to focus on the sensation of pleasure and not what caused it and why...or like when Nihilists of all types choose to focus on the abstraction, the noumenon, and the words/symbol that represents it, and they refuse to delve into how this abstraction was constructed and how it can result in a mistake.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Thu Dec 28, 2017 5:34 pm

Intentionally choosing a conventional word and then redefining it is a method of pretending to be more profound and creative than you actually are.
It's a method used to confuse and to then justify this confusion, this dizziness, turmoil in the mind, with mystification.
When a thinker is unhappy with a word he invents his own....like dasein.
But the word must refer to something experienced...in the case of dasien it refers to an awakening in world - as though we were thrown, out of nowhere, into this existence...and finding yourself 'there'...as opposed to 'here' which is never present.
There because man is a looking back, due to the time/space required to process data and to become conscious.
Consciousness is a 'looking back'.
The smaller the distance the quicker your mind and your nervous system....and so light, the fastest medium, is a metaphor for clarity.
The shorter the distance the closer you are to the present...the moment.




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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Sat Dec 30, 2017 7:40 am

Organisms seek in other what most reminds them of themselves.
Reducing self-awareness, teaching the individual not to trust his own senses, converting 'self' to a theoretical, abstraction, an ideal, is how nihilism reduces self-awareness and awareness in general, to a point where the lowest-common-denominator is the ideal.

Consciousness leads to finer and finer details being perceived....more stringent standards of sameness, a more refined self-awareness makes the finding of 'sameness' increasingly difficult, the mid becomes more discriminating as it becomes more aware.
Light exposes differences, darkness hides them in uniform black.

That's why genius is mostly seeking isolation, has a difficult time finding friends and mates; has a hard time identifying with the zeitgeist, with the popular, the common.
It is more anti-social, in comparison to the more social mediocre mind, because it cannot relate and cannot make compromises equal to the differences it must tolerate.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Mon Jan 01, 2018 8:20 am

A noumenon that is never converted back to action, remains an untested theory.
The subjective that does not apply its perspective in the objective wold, remain convinced of its perfection.
Some, when they apply and fail, do not blame the perspective, but the world.
The perspective remains perfect, awaiting a perfect world to validate it.

The degenerate always blames other for its failings, or it pretends they were part of the expected.
He never questions himself or his loved ideology.
He needs it to remain sane.
The clever ones never apply their theories not wanting to face failure, forcing them to make excuses or find the reasons in a conspiracy of other. They prefer to safeguard their ideals in thir head, sharing them with those that agree, only debating them, theoretically, because words can be manipulated and theoretical consequences can be spin-doctored.

For the naive idealist purity and his innocence is preserved by placing the ideal in a beyond paradise or an immanent utopia, or he keeps it safe inside where the evilness of the world cannot contradict it.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Tue Feb 06, 2018 6:21 am

Again....
Nihilism is essentially inverting the perceived and experienced.
It inverts the meaningful to meaningless and the meaningless to meaningful.
It inverts sequences, placing the effect before the cause - so mind exists before life, and the word exists before the world, and consciousness exists before the brain or existence, and being exists before existence and love exists before there's a mind to love, or the noumenon, the idea, precedes the phenomenon,
the existent, mind emerges before body, the thought before the physical
....and so on.
It is an expression of dissatisfaction with existence with natural order.

This inversion is a characteristic of all nihilistic versions of the same memetic dis-ease.
It cannot invert reality so it can only do so noetically, theoretically, linguistically.
This is a very 'powerful' idea to those who are desperate, ill, and afraid of existence - those who are dissatisfied with life.
But it cannot support these inversions because it has no reference outside the mind. It is entirely theoretical, abstract.
It's forced to become solipsistic, and self-referential.
Mind referring back to itself to support an inversion of what appears and ti cannot escape.
It's a 'turning inward'.

How do Christian explain their 'one god' creating the world?
He made man in his image - the inversion of the truth that this idea named 'god' is a projection of an idealized version of man.
Then they say that God 'loves man', expressing their desire to convert their private self-contempt to a self-love via a proxy.
Their god loves them loving him....in essence he is a masturbating narcissist.
Existentialism of self-loving love.
He punishes them if they do not love him, but they are free to not do so at their own peril.
Here we see the mind-games being played.

They claim god is everywhere, in everything.....as everything is of god.
So stones, clouds, water molecules are all god loving himself.
He is omnipresent as a occult love.
This is the basic framework of the Christian version of the mental virus.

It is seductive.
Its circular 'emoting', not reasoning, attracts the needy, the desperate, the feeble, the cowardly.
It has a huge potential followers base to draw from.
There are three such versions competing over the hearts and minds of the feeble in the west.
But they've fallen into ill repute, since their circular reasoning and their self-aggrandizement is too childish for a more sophisticated, educated fan base.
They have to adapt or die.
They have to adjust their concepts to a different kind of needy, feeble, desperation.
They have to update themselves to accommodate knowledge and understanding that has accumulated over the centuries.
An upgrade was Marxism and its brain-child post-modernity.
These attract the same types of minds - those that cannot return to Abrahamic narratives but need something more modern, more abstract, more scientific sounding.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Tue Feb 06, 2018 6:34 am

If people do not understand what I posted before they will never understand Nihilism, nor be able to make sense of how Transsexuals can then claim to be the opposite sex - a sexual inversion.

Nihilism inverts perception, declaring it superficial, or illusory, and declaring tees own thoughts as more real than the real.
This is a a way of declaring that noumena usurp phenomena, or the subjective replaces the objective world.
If there is no objective world all is subjective, or a mental fabrication, and all mental fabrications can ignore the empirical and construct, using language, alternate realities.

Then the criterion becomes one of popularity.
The number, quantities, of minds can the noetic fabrication attracts determines its quality, its veracity.
Majority wins....or is considered real.
Then ti is replaced with a new product, a new repackaged version of what was already successful.

Why else would they want to reinvent Christianity by hiding it in verbal acrobatics?
It was successful, popular...effective.
This is the same reason they covet Nietzsche's effect.
They envy his impact on young males, and want to repeat it for themselves.
Like cRap....the 'fArtists sample melodies that were once hits, they add a jungle beat to trigger sexual processes, they add a word-association in the middle, all dealing with self (me, me, look at me self-referential narcissistic solipsism) and then resell it, over and over and over again to the same dim-wits.
Nihilistic 'art' or fArt.

Same process occurs in what is called, by them, 'philosophy'.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Tue Feb 06, 2018 4:47 pm

The war is happening in subtle ways.
Plagiarism, propaganda, economic sabotage and espionage, lies....a war of words exploiting the average Modern moron's idiocy and atrophying, after decades of sheltering and brainwashing.

When you hold a slave, and his family for generations, you teach him to not think, to be confused linguistically, to be superstitious, and to fear being free, then yo have a salve that you need not chain.
You have a slave imprisoned in his own mind.
A slave that may even intervene when other slaves try to flee or when they secretly conspire against the master.
You have a slave that does not want o be free.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Tue Feb 06, 2018 4:51 pm

There is no slave more reliable than the one who is convinced there is no 'outside', no objective world.
The slave that is convinced he is free because he can freely declare himself so, and because he can name himself master.
There is no slave more loyal than the one tied-up by his own language, words twisting his thoughts into prison bars, grateful for them, because they keep the objective uncertain, indifferent world outside, while he walks free because he can call the prison of his own mind his subjective, private 'world'.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Tue Feb 06, 2018 5:40 pm

When you disconnect a mind from nature, you make it dependent no human contrivances.
It can no longer engage the world directly, using his mind and language, but must go through proxies that have warped language to make it incomprehensible and toed up in human emotions, theories, concepts.
These can be manipulated unlike the world itself.

The mind may become addicted to the alternate reality presented to him verbally.He will find in it a promise the real world cannot offer, without blood,s sweat and tears.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:02 am



Listen to how Nihilism produces jargon of nonsense....like fArt is nonsense sold to retards as deep and profound.
Nihilism detaches noumenon from phenomenon along the nervous system using....language, or art.

Art, and language is art, can connect mind to world, the idea(l) to the real or it can invert and connect it back to itself, or to another mind, bypassing the world altogether.
The fArtist and the audience are on a community project of supporting a lie....because world is too hard, too uncertain, too indifferent.
Linguistic nonsense, is the same are surrealism.
It pretends to be saying something but is saying nothing, but presenting an reflective image, to projects upon it each individual's personal psychosis.
Language is convoluted, sentences synthesized in strange meaningless ways, but that trigger using [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] feelings, imagery, sensations as if they did so intentionally.
The sentences are meaningless. They have no utility in the real world. They only serve as psychological life-rafts, or stimulating devices, masturbating tools, for each individual to use to pleasure himself/herself.
This utility is what makes it appealing, and seductive....and why slaves run to it, the lost grasp upon it, the coward hides behind it, the degenerates uses it to invert his shame into pride, his weakness into strength.
The old Abrahamic ploy.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:13 pm



Another explores nihilism and how it works by corrupting language.
Notice how words are used to trigger and to imply but if considered carefully they mean nothing.
Like modern fArt it implies and then uses psychology to prevent the audience from calling it nonsense.
Language, like a painting of fArt is mental feces, mind-farts...and the talent is found in promoting this nonsense to a gullible, audience, a needy mind primed and ready for anything that can offer it what it lacks and cannot receive from the world so easily.
Easier to project upon the nonsense your own perspective, than to seek insights directly from world, or empowerment in the world.

Sprinkle the sentences with some allusions to icons and idols, to make the commercial more impressive to impressionable psychologies.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:47 pm


Listen to Saad's testimony on how post-moderns manipulate and corrupt language.

Post-modernity replaces insight with novelty.
It takes successful philosophies and manipulates the jargon to imply insight, so as to repeat the effect.
It exposes its coveted effect by the icon/idol it uses to reinterpret and to corrupt.
The effect is desired, not the work, the effort, because effort is suffering....so the benefits, as it appreciates them is envied, but the costs, are evaded.






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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:40 pm



Professor Hicks neglects to mention the side-effects.
For instance, in philosophy subjectivity becomes the idea(l) that man can create his/her own private reality, and his/her own private philosophy using his/her own private jargon.
Subjectivity means man is now god - creator of his own reality.
The lie enters when they refuse to live by the consequences of this ideology, or who refuse to become vulnerable to its application.
They say one thing and act in opposition, or they refuse to be unprotected from the consequences of their won principles.

Language manipulation helps.  
It's all innuendo, so nothing that happens can ever be unexpected - they can never be wrong.
Remaining vague offers plausible deniability.
The more obscure and convoluted the rhetoric the less they can be exposed as frauds, or exposed as plagiarizing another ideology by replacing the terminology.

Second stage, I believe, is where the idea that all perspectives are "equal" can become the ideology of the 'superior ideology is the one that is most all-inclusive, or the most positive to the many'.
So, the one that gains merit is the one that attracts the most into its principles - gains a popularity, a following.
It has no other use, it is impotent, other than declarations and declaring every event as a validation of their 'truths', so they must compensate for this impotence with quantities.
They engage reality indirectly, through proxies. idols, icons, or through other humans and their manipulation, converting them into zombies or mindless agencies.
Their ideologies/philosophies are nonsense, but this does not matter if they can convince some that there is a meaning.....a powerful insight reserved only for the worthy, those that can suspend doubt, and replace reasoning with emoting.  
The most convincing lie is the one that makes the most extraordinary claims, as Goebbels told us.
The post-modern declares the fantastic to attract the millions of feeble-minded, lost, desperate minds, desperate for something to guide them, to give purpose to their lives to save them from an unflattering genetic and memetic inheritance.

As I've noted in the thread [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] there is no reasoning with the brain-dead.
Their infection, if it has progressed, overpowers every aspect of their thinking.
They do not connect words to phenomena, but to emotions, sensations, to their own or to another's abstractions, creating a noetic self-referential loop.
In time they atrophy, becoming less able than they were, to cope with the real world.
What brought them into nihilism, what made them vulnerable to its 'call' is reinforced by the decay of their faculties.



Conventional language is despised because ti inhibits the creative madness of the post-modern.
The entire seductive promise of nihilism is that ti offers a way out of natural order, and the determinations of the past.
Remaining linguistically clear would prevent liberation, and it would expose the underlying motive.
Circular self-referential linguistics replaces one vague term with another and then another...and so on.
At no point is the chain connected to something outside the mind - the world, the phenomenon.
If it is it is only selectively applied, or it is applied to usurp the phenomenon with  the noumenon.
Noumenon must always usurp the phenomenon - the ideal replace the real...the world must overturn what it refers to - invert.



Hicks,. once more, forget the other option left to the post-modernist.
Take a successful work, change the words, and present it as your own ground-breaking work...ridiculing talent, insight, and reasoning.
If a degenerate can plagiarize and dupe imbeciles with a copy, perhaps sampling and combining it with another work, to cover himself, then art is nothing but trickery requiring no talent, but only shamelessness and good marketing.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:19 pm

Link to the Sokal hoax - the article that exposed post-modernity:
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How emotion, the will to believe, leads to error and delusion.
The will to believe leads to pretending that gibberish makes sense.
Desire corrupts reasoning.
Words need not make sense, but only offer an emotional reward, even if it to be among the few who 'get it'.

It's the old marketing insight....the more unapproachable the price the more unique, special, you feel, and so the more willing to pay it you are.
Christianity's gibberish makes it all the more appealing to its followers.

Psychology pretending to be philosophy.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:55 pm

Modern philosophy begins with an irrational question, demanding an irrational answer.
It pretends to be seeking, but that it posits a question, in the way that it forms it, implies a particular presumption.

The question of a one-god is an example.
To put it into post-modern context, the idea of equality, or the presumption that everything is a social construct.

A true explorer does not begin with a destination, expecting to find it.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:01 pm



You just rename the categories of oppressor and oppressed...demonizing natural order with its predators and its prey.

Chosen victims became universal victims, sinners became the bourgeoisie, the saved became the party members, paradise became utopia, equality became Abrahamism, parity beneath the Lord, became equality beneath the State.
Universal suffrage and equality became universal salvation.
The old religion was reborn as a political ideology, became Marxism, by renaming itself and its categories.
Marxism became post-modernity.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Wed Feb 14, 2018 6:07 am

Moderns confuse the cause for the effect and the effect for the cause.
Hedonists, for example, place the sensation as the reason.

Philosophy for a Modern is about knowing all there is to know about a school of thought, or of a particular philosopher's views.
The objective is not the world but the proxy, the mediating script that says something about it.
When they call themselves 'philosopher's they mean followers of a particular philosophy.
They have nothing to say about the world, no insight to offer, other than their opinion on the opinions of a specific iconic figure, or philosophical idol, or a school of thought.
They compete with other minds on who best knows and understand the idol's mind....like believers debate on who reads God's thoughts most accurately.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Wed Feb 14, 2018 3:10 pm

In case someone missed it....
Hicks divides German philosophy into two branches, one including Hegel and Marx, and the other he calls romantic, and includes Schopenhauer, Nietzsche and.....Kierkegaard.
Romantics....indeed. Idealization, connected to Abrahamism is present....at least in the last two...perhaps an overbearing father can explain Schopenhauer.
Their Romanticism is discernible in the words they chose - metaphorical poetic, prose. A distinctly feminine idealism that also placed women on a pedestal.
Trying to imitate Hellenic traditions.
Metaphors that can then be taken literally.  
Schopenhauer's use of 'will' as a metaphor he implies literally. Nietzsche adopts it but changes its definition, its meaning. The imagery, feelings, associated with the metaphor.
Will only applies to living organisms and yet it is applied to describe cosmology.
The metaphor becomes a synthetic that deluded men-children can then grasp and connect to Abrahamism.
Metaphors are useful for this purpose.
They allude and imply. In the vagueness any connection can be made to any hypothesis....even to contrary ones.  
In the twilight or dim light, forms meld, distinctions melt into one another....what is distinct appears similar.
Vagueness is where synthesis of opposites occurs, because the light, clarity, reason, distinguishes, separates, perceives differences.
Consciousness is the perception of divergence ...it is to discriminate.

The reason why fluidity is divided, and how fractions compensate for fluidity, is explained in my other posts.
This does not make it incorrect, only that the method converts the gradual, the vibration, into distinct wholes, into things such as particles.
Consciousness juxtaposes one moment with the other....and the difference it interprets as movement, or change.
Man connects this in his own memory, and gives the process a singular name...a symbol a word.
He then assumes that his own memory is found in the other....which is not always the case.
In fact it is never the case when it comes to non-living patterned (ordered) and non-patterned (random -
chaotic) energies.  
Only life has innate memory...a self.
A cloud, a river, does not.
But romantics project themselves into all...so they see themselves reflected back
Now this offers a romantic and quite pleasing world-view, yet not a completely honest one.

Philosophers, the lovers of wisdom, ought to know this, but laymen, the average mind cannot be permitted to know this.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Wed Feb 14, 2018 3:23 pm

Keeping the above in mind we may connect the idolization of Nietzsche, in an age of declining paternalism, with perpetual adolescence....males never mature, they remain womanly, immature males - men-children...or retarded, stunted males.
We can see the psychological reasons beneath this worship.
Only masculine females show similar reverence.

Will to Power is interested by them as a will to life...survival presented as a cosmic force.
Will to self-, Will to love - love, reconnecting the antagonist of Abrahamism back to an Abrahamic sentiment.
love is also redefined by detaching it form its pragmatic reality, the function is evolved to facilitate.
It becomes abstracted, and detached, which is how all concepts are sanctified.....cleansed of their earthly, worldly 'filth' and made sacred.

The easiest way to seduce a woman is to flower her with praise, to adore her with words, to liberate her from her sexual promiscuity, her worldly sacrifice and submissions - romanticize her.
Then she loses interest in you.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Wed Feb 21, 2018 9:28 am

Philosophy refers to world.
Begins and ends in world.
Man is the mediator. He acts as the consciousness of ordering.
The individual is the link in a causality chain we call 'self'.

Words, symbols, act as connectors of this self to an ongoing interactivity we call flux.
Memories are the links.
Genetically and memetically man is linked to the past. The individual is this past (self) made present (appearance). Ego is the lucid part of the self.
Know Thyself is the command, the reminder, to make the unconscious self conscious.
There are some risks and costs involved, which I will not go into.

Nihilism wants to detach from this past - it calls it freedom.
By doing so it disconnects from reality, and makes it vulnerable to manipulation.
Positive Nihilism seeks an alternative in others...adopting a new past, or attempting to begin a new past.
It can do so only because it can convince itself that the past can be surpassed, or overcome.
This is like seeking for a new parent because your own are too limiting, unflattering, authoritarian and so on.
It's a teenager's rebelliousness.
Pure Nihilists replace this lost parent with the State, or humanity...redefined as world....and ego as a important pat within this redefinition....or they replace it with nothing.
They lose all sense of self, so as to make self whatever they like. This makes them entirely memetic, as they cannot escape the past....it is manifesting as presence all the time. What they do is they adopt memetic symbols, language, products, social markers to compensate for the lost past....because they need a self. Their ego becomes the determiner of self.
They construct a new self from the immediate, from socioeconomic symbols, from redefining language to accommodate ego....but ego is not free. It is the tip of a continuum. It is prone to emotion, self-serving fabrications, and so on.
Inevitably such creatures construct a very self-flattering delusion.
The current nihilistic system permits such contrivances, as long as one delusion does not disturb anthers.
This facilitates control....system exploitation.
All the system has to do is feed into its socioeconomic semiology symbols and connect them to specific imagery, feelings, sensations, to direct the minds of those who feel free from their past.


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