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PostSubject: 39 Tue May 26, 2015 6:27 am

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The loss of God is a seminal point in a Modern’s psyche.
As traumatic as the loss of a parent is to a child, before it has had time to mature.
Maintained in a constant state of adolescence the Modern experiences the “death of god” as a traumatic event in his awakening to reality, if he ever reaches that stage of psychological development at all.
The natural progression from Judeo-Christianity towards secular humanism is a progression from God, as the mitigating will between Modern man and reality, the chaotic, uncertain, world of (inter)activity, towards the adolescent stage of clueless rebelliousness, cynicism, experimentation, careless abandonment, rejection of all external sources of determining power, which would include nature, as the sum of all nurturing, the endless search for identity, which settles on the convenient fashionable identity as self-creation.
Without a Creator God, the modern makes of himself his own Creator.

The loss of Divine protection, of man’s previous universal importance, is compensated for in different ways.
The magical power of words, once used in prayer to influence the chaotic unknown, is replaced with the magical power of numbers.
In both cases the utility remains that of mystical intervention upon reality.
Words/Symbols used not as tools but as incantations, offering an entry into the secret world of universal consciousness.
God is replaced by the concept Universe, and given no less a willful existence – numbers become insights into this God’s mind.
Numerical chants.

The loss of God also represents the loss of the go-between man and natural injustices; between man and the “cruel” indifference of reality.
To compensate, the Modern makes all injustice a product of social factors.
Despite the absence of a God the Modern insists on retaining a direct influence over himself, and the immutable, determining past.
For the Modern all unfair natural divergences are no more than by-products of society.
This is why rejection of the past/nature is the necessary path towards his salvation.
He retains the ability to correct these injustices, and return all to its uniform state, which is presupposed as the natural human condition.
Naturally occurring “injustice”, divergence, is correctable when it is reduced to a consequence of society, or human meddling.
Man has fallen into sin, as it were, and must find his way back to the divine path towards godliness – this is enlightenment for the Modern: the continuing eradication of all disparity, suffering, injustice, unfairness, which he himself created, presumably.
Everything from race to sex are placed upon the injustices of human social conventions, and in a remarkable ironic twist, the Modern imposes a social negation of what he has presupposed as being social constructs. He regains self-control, the ability to intervene upon nature by making it all a social construct, which he can then correct, heal.  
The social activist is a kind of holy man – a monk.
His mission is to return humanity back to its original sacred place: a state of uniform parity where divergence is but a dream, an illusion, and all is One = the Divine mind, in the Judeo-Christian paradigm.
The image of a Modern’s Utopia is no different than the image of a Christian Paradise.
 
Humanity becomes a stand-in for God.
Uniformity is the same as saying absolute order – the leveling of possibilities to a singular absolutely certain probability.
Loss of God’s order is replaced by a human one, where all humans find their place within this Divine concept of “humanity”.
Everything that stands in the way of this absolute harmony is the evil Satanic.  

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PostSubject: 40 Tue May 26, 2015 9:40 am

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The relationship the modern mind has to language is the decisive factor of his subsequent Nihilism; his disconnect from reality, the world, and his alienation from himself, his past, his nature is only possible through his application of language.
For the Modern language is not a reference to reality, it is not a tool, an artistic form representing the world.
For the Modern language is simply a way of connecting to an other Modern - a subjective to subjective merging to construct a shared Subjective within which both can find comfort.
This is why quantities of subjectivities are a form of strengthening of the shared Subjective, the inter-subjective, or communal memetic, "real".
All inclusion, governed by the rules of reciprocity (Golden Rule = you do not disturb my delusion and I shall do the same for you), is the herd psychology finding shelter, in the multiplicity which can then exclude the world.

Connecting the noumenon to the phenomenon has been replaced with the need to connect the noumenon with an other noumenon.
Representing the world is transformed into representing, presenting, self to otherness.
The art of depiction, representation, is transformed into seducing, selling self, impressing.
Engaging, connecting, to the world using the medium of metaphor, words, art, is transformed into an obsession with connecting self with other.

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PostSubject: 41 Tue May 26, 2015 10:01 am

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Social conventions, civility, morality, education, are all meant to preserve the sense of parity.
The confusion between knowing and understanding, and the easy access to data, and to narratives explaining their meaning, maintains the illusion of uniform potentials.
The Modern parrots information, most of the time unable to explain them, or offering a learned explanation, and believes he is part of a uniform humanity, having achieved the potential of an idealized, theoretical, human.
A shared knowledge base, interpreted by the experts who step in to conveniently translate any data which may prove socially disruptive, in socially acceptable ways, by covering up the essence of nature and diversity, also demands a common pool of acceptable ambitions.
The utility of the data is funnelled through socially acceptable applications.
What is not marketable to the masses is useless.

Civility and conventional modes of behaving is also meant to preserve the illusion of parity by restricting application of understanding to within what is called acceptable limits.
A shared behavioural standard harmonizes the superior with the inferior, since behaviour can be imitated, just as data can be regurgitated.
Training animals to behave human-like is no different than training/educating a Modern to limit his actions, his thinking his language use, his ambitions to within parameters that will include all as potential trainees.
Behavioural standards do more than inhibit the exposure of weakens to its own inferiority, it preserves and cultivates the illusion of genetic parity.
One is expected to treat the other with dignity, respect, no matter how absurd he might be.
One is also expected to contain his thinking, acting to within limits that will not hurt, insult, make someone else uncomfortable.
The weaker one begins to believe that this respect is due to his own qualities, and not because of this imposition of behavioural limits, which also include political-correctness.
In time the weaker ones demand to be taken seriously, to be heard, to be respected, and treated with dignity, believing he deserves this – the sense of entitlement.  
Having never experienced the viciousness of being exposed as a fool, as a weakling, as psychologically stunted, the Modern is captivated by arrogance founded on social conventions.  




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PostSubject: 42 Tue May 26, 2015 12:02 pm

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Emotion is how a Modern gauges his effect, his utility, his value within the community of like-minded - the herd.
Emotion is what he manipulates and tries to trigger, with every word he uses - words evoking imagery, or feelings, emotions, that have not yet been rationalized.

Emotion is what he builds upon, and always returns to when faced with conflict, or a world indifferent to his emotions.
Emotion is his greatest tool, his biggest weapon, and his greatest vulnerability.
Every resistance to his emoting is judged on emotional grounds, explored for emotional weakness to exploit.
Emotional effect is how he determines his own successes and failures.  

Emotion is where the noetic refers back to, as if it were some phenomenon out there, independent from human brains.
Emotion is how he is made malleable, and how he remains a manimal.

Emotion stimulated by sensations; sensational, impressive, primal triggering mechanisms.
His arguments are always emotive, just as his motives.  
He declares himself complex, enlightened, yet he can be summed up when the directing emotion is discovered.  

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PostSubject: 43 Tue May 26, 2015 3:07 pm

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When a particularly obtuse type of nihilist speaks of reality, of pragmatism, he means emotional.
His every concept must be connected to an emotional circumstance, brought down to an emotive level.
He is unable to understand what God, morality, human means, without an emotional connection.
He must mystify the words, so as to connect them to his emotions.  
He uses the terms "moral/immoral" as universal good/bad concepts, referring back to God/Satan dualism.
He demands a universal application for a human construct, after having dismissed the survival function which depends on the objective, and has no meaning without an objective.
He assumes that an act is, in and of itself, good or evil, without any reference to anything earthly, like a motive, a goal.
The reference would reduce the concepts to a reality from where these abstractions remain detached.
The only acceptable connection being back to the mind, and to emotion.  

Without a God how else can he find a Universal application for good/bad, the polar ends of his stunted mind.
He is obsessed with the concepts.
They are simple, clear, and literal, in his stunted mind.
The concepts of good/bad are pure noetic construct, abstractions of the highest degree – able to be applied mathematically, like one applies one and nil.
All actions are intrinsically good or evil, in his Christian brain.
No objective required…sort of like God.  

Intellectual discourse with him is an acceptance of his nonsensical premises, of either/or absolutes, which is a concession to begin with, and then endless rambling over a ridiculous presupposition.
It would be like debating a child as to whether Santa Claus can deliver presents to every boy and girl on Christmas, or how Santa determines which boy and girl has been good and which bad in the course of the preceding year.
Refusal to engage him on that level is taken as a victory, evidence of his formidable mind.
He is avoided like the intellectual plague that he is by everyone, including other Moderns.
 

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PostSubject: 44 Tue May 26, 2015 3:15 pm

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For the typical Modern nihilist, human nature is incomprehensible.
It is why he refuses to accept its existence, as a behavioural pattern.

He not only uses this rejection as a way of avoiding being seen as what he is, but he also uses it to explain why he is obtuse when it comes to other people, and why they surprise and baffle him on a consistent basis.
If there is no other purpose to promote universal behavioural standards then this single one would be enough for the Modern:
With a universal social behavioural norm his obtuseness need not concern itself with the inexplicable.
He expects a particular behaviour, calling it civility, goodness, healthy, normal, and what exceeds this expectation is considered ill.
In the past it was called demonic, or evil.


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PostSubject: 45 Wed May 27, 2015 1:21 pm

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There are two, general, types of Modern:

1- The one so simpleminded that he becomes ensconced within linguistic abstractions.
Literally understanding the words being used, and unable to think outside the dualistic premises inherent in human linguistics, as a reflection of human thinking.
The words, symbols, metaphors, acquired a literal substance, which immediately results in paradoxes, when this simple mind is forced to come into contact with the real world.

2- The other is the one whom, after detaching the word, referring to the abstraction, from the real world (noumenon detached from phenomenon), returns it back, but this time within human environments.
The noumenon detached, and instead of reattaching it to the phenomenon, the Modern reattaches it to the shared Subjectivity, which is the Meme.
A noumenon reconnected to a shared noumenon, or an abstraction attached to a shared, communal, abstraction.
If this shared abstraction has no reference outside their shared minds, then it indicated a shared solipsism, the Nihilistic meme.
In this case the modern is certain that it is dealing with the real world, when it has simply replaced its own subjectivity with a shared subjectivity.




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PostSubject: 46 Wed May 27, 2015 1:44 pm

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The Modern is so entrapped in linguistics; so mesmerized by abstractions, and their magical efficacy, that when he speaks of a famous figure, such as Nietzsche, he cannot connect him to a past, in Heraclitus, and he certainly cannot go further and connect both Nietzsche and Heraclitus to reality; when he thinks of Rand he cannot connect her to Aristotle, or further back to Parmenides and his monism.
These minds are his only reference point.
Noumenon referring to noumenon, with no exploration of phenomenon; abstracting abstraction with no engagement of world as that which is outside human abstractions.

The Modern’s shallowness is proportional to his reference points.
He chooses to tackle a figure he believes is on his intellectual level, but dares not engage the one who stands behind him, and he most certainly never considers the world directly, for he lacks both the courage and the talent to find any patterns in it, on his own, and he certainly has no courage to come to personal conclusions of his own.
He is entrapped in inter-Subjectivity.
Consider the intimate reference point of the typical Hedonist.
He cannot even go further than his own mind/body, and the sensations they produce, to engage the world outside of their distracting force.
His skin and skull represent the limit of his comprehension.

The others, the more typical ones, choose to enter the skin and skull of another, preferably a sufficiently infamous figure to cause intimidation in anyone who questions their understanding, or thinks of challenging their understanding.




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PostSubject: 47 Thu May 28, 2015 1:16 pm

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The average Modern, desperately has to believe that he is so complex, so mysterious that nobody can ever fathom who and what he is, or why he does what he does, so that even when he makes a stupid error in judgment this can be used to insinuate a profound objective.

The Modern wishes to disappear, and still be appreciated, for his whimsical nature
He wants to erase the apparent which he has no way of hiding, not even surgery, so as to invent himself, as if from scratch, and then later reinvent himself anew.
So, of course he would deny the relevance of appearances and how this exposes your past.
And of course his simplicity of mind can be hidden, because he thinks, you cannot see into his skull as you can see his body, right?

But he fails to understand that you can peer into an other's mind.
Every choice made, every option taken, every ideal valued is an exposition of mind.
You cannot just declare yourself genius when everything you've done, said, admired, speaks against this declaration.
Changing your mind continuously, other then the feminine qualities it reveal;s, does not indicate open-mindedness and a willingness to accept error, it also indicates poor judgment, a simplistic reasoning, which when coupled with other choices exposes the individual to an other.
The Modern cannot hide behind words to convincing others like him of something it is not.
You cannot levitate just because you say so, you believe it with a passion, and you've convinced others that you can.

This is the "Might is Right"delusion.
The modern can believe something with all his might, the world does not give a shit.

Would you trust someone who has a history of making the most stupidest mistakes?
He might admit he has made many stupid mistakes and claim that he has changed but what does precedent (past) say about him?
He will claim that you cannot objectively judge him, but you can, and all do - some more accurately, some less so.

What, for example, does it say about someone if in his history, after adolescence, he was convinced of the most absurd ideal?
Does it expose a tendency to emote, to surrender to desire?
Does it expose a gullible mind, and a poor judgment?

What does it say about someone who has been stuck under another man's shadow for decades?
Normal when you are young and looking for mentors, and heroes, but after thirty?
What does it say about another's mind when it has been convinced by its own word-game, and does not feel the bittiest degree of shame to repeat the absurdities it does?
What does it say about it that it simply changes the sequence of time, represented by words, and then declares itself a philosopher?
What does it say about its mind that it has tricked itself with the most infantile words-games?
Would you not seek and find some other boyish aspect of its life, its psychology, through its actions, to solidify the judgment about such a mind?



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PostSubject: 48 Fri May 29, 2015 11:16 am

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Another delusion being taken as self-evident amongst Moderns is this idea that nothing general can be said about humans, as there is no human nature, and so a special branch of philosophy has to be invented for every individual, otherwise it is all nonsense.
No category applies to the Modern, according to him.  
So desperate the Modern is to not be seen, to not be judged, by a hypothetical more aware mind, that he must deny all human commonality if it is not based on the immediate, the social: meme.
This is why the concept “human” has become a mystical concept – pure abstraction.
Genes are simply irrelevant.
They determine nothing, making each individual a self-referential, unit, of unique complexity, which nobody can ever decipher.

The idea is comforting, and useful as an escape tool, an excuse, to such a degree that it has become a staple in Nihilistic delusions.  
To truly understand the individual, according to Moderns, you must ask them, and they will declare what they are and what they think and why they think it.
It is the "I am what I say I am", and without an absolute authority, there is nobody that can disprove it – a "prove a negative" taunt.
It is why they project words into the other's mouth, to lower the other down to their level.
Philosophy, psychology, become non-applicable to them, though they often use it for their own evaluations, and for display.  
They have imagined themselves outside the species, outside behaviour, and have become pure noumenon: each individual an idea(l), defining itself – the essence of Modern pseudo-individuality, and democracy.
"I am what I say I am" and nobody can tell me otherwise.

This is what lies at the very heart of the noumenon/phenomenon detachment: the ideal/real divide – the word/world detachment.

It is why they brag, so easily, they declare, and then say no more, they deny, and offer no reasons, they display, using words, always using words to manipulate, as if success using words changes the real about them.
They do not realize that their actions betray them, making their words sound hollow, and them look ridiculous.
They do not realize that the data they are producing is not limited to what is coming from their mouth, and that, in fact, the words they use are the least relevant when judging them.
They do not realize that it is precisely this denial which makes them all the more transparent.
But even here, in the usage of word, the method, the quality, the structure of syntax; the meanings trying to be proposed, all participate in how the other evaluates them.
Not only what they say but every single detail of activity is part of how they reveal who they truly are.  
Not so complex and mysterious, after all.
Most of it happens on an intuitive level, and why women are masters at it.  



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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Tue Jun 09, 2015 5:38 pm

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The timeless words of a real philosopher...


Schopenhauer, Arhtur wrote:
Thus a man who thinks for himself only subsequently becomes acquainted with the authorities for his opinions when they serve merely to confirm him therein and to encourage him.
The book-philosopher, on the other hand, starts from those authorities in that he constructs for himself an entire system from the opinions of others which he has collected in the course of his reading.


Modern schools are full of philosophy students but few philosophers.
The subject of philosophy is the world, but for them the subject of philosophy is philosophy itself.
When they speak of "serious" and/or "stringent" philosophy they mean to remain disciplined to the concepts and jargon of another mind, which they have learned to quote verbatim, even using the terms in the same way the master uses them.
They may not understand the concepts, but they can repeat them precisely.

Evidence of their parroting, and non understanding is found in their inability to express the same concepts using their own words, or in relation to an others positions, because true understanding of a concept is discipled in the ability to say the same thing using different words, different metaphors, symbols, and similes; the ability to express the same concept using your own words.
Because the world is the subject being explored and words are tools to refer to it.

The Modern being simple and dumb, but pretentious and arrogant enough to not be disciplined by the risk of being exposed, can only regurgitate the concept in the exact same way he learned it - because it was not his own, and it still remains alien to him.
The mentor, the teacher, is the proxy which he defers and refers to, stringently remaining true to the words as they were taught to him.
He cannot divert from the text, because he has not made the concept his own. He repeats it, to press, to intimidate, to pretend, knowing that few will challenge him on it, and fewer will have the patience to go through the source material and find out how much of a hypocrite he truly is.


Schopenhauer, Arthur wrote:
Those who have spent their lives reading and have drawn their wisdom from books resemble men who have acquired precise information about a country from many descriptions of travel. They are able to give much information about things, but at bottom they have really no coherent, clear, and thorough knowledge of the nature of the country.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Sat Jun 13, 2015 10:25 pm

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When the honest man speaks of reality he speaks of the sum of all (inter)actions independent of all subjective interpretations of them, and evaluated by the quantity and quality of sensual references points each interpretation has with the world being interpreted.

When a Modern, and a Nihilists speaks of reality he either dismisses it as a fiction, or he speaks of the sum of all subjective interpretations of shared interpretations.
On the off chance that he dares to approach the world outside these shared interpretation, it is always via a proxy which he has evaluated as being interpreted in interpreting the world honestly - the motive of the proxy is rarely questioned particularly when it offers data and analysis which are always positive: remaining hopeful (full of potential interventions to be corrected), and neutral, if not flattering.

So, for the modern the world, if he admits that there is one outside human minds, is to be dealt with only via a proxy.
Philosophy discussing philosophy; art discussing art; words referring to other words, never connecting to anything perceptible; an (inter)action.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Thu Jun 18, 2015 3:44 pm

Either/Or, in the absolutist paradigm means if nothing "absolute" can be proven, then all is equally inferior.
The Hierarchy is avoided in the absence of an absolute authority.
The tragedy of determinism of an inheritance one cannot change but only endure, mask, compensate for, can no longer find relief in a coming after-life, which erases it all as if it were nothing but a test, so now it finds relief in the absence itself, in the negative - If there is no omniscience then gradation of consciousness is irrelevant; if there is no omnipotence then degrees of power is inconsequential, the modern tells himself.
If you cannot be God then you must be only human.

The fluidity of a standard against which all perspectives stand dependent is incomprehensible,; the idea of an indifferent world, is terrifying.

Either the absolute (God, order, quanta, thing, substance, one) is in the behind, the Creator, Primal One, manifesting in multiplicity (the illusion of existence), or it stands as a coming end, an immanent Being.
The in-between phase, of existing, becoming, is remedied, explained, rationalized...it is known in reflection upon this God of the past or of the coming future.
In this age of Modernity, Nihilism has become "progressive" - this is the essence of secular humanism, and Marxism, and Transhumanism.
Not a Being, commanding from behind, underneath, beyond, but a Being yet to be, inspiring, urging is to reach, to Become, to attain its end - Paradise is now Utopia.
The in-between is the illusion, the necessary stage, what has to occur, has to be endured, paid, for the rewards to matter.

Masculine/Feminine Nihilism has been defined in accordance to these binary psychological tendencies, corresponding to sexual perspectives, a intuitive relating, to life and existence, our of which life emerges.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Thu Jun 18, 2015 8:37 pm

The Modern could never understand a standard not attached to a will, to an order, to a consciousness.
In the "reality" of inter-subjectivity the "I say so, He says so, We say so" echoes the "Might is Right".

Subjectivity means someone says so, because there is no standard of evaluating what is more probable outside a human subjective opinion. No outside the mind method...no objective world against which all subjective opinions can be evaluated.

Therefore if the institution, such as the Catholic Church says  that God exists, and the majority are integrated into this belief, then God does indeed exist: Might is right....subjectivity of "I say so" translating into "We say so".
And if against this shared subjective view a Bruno says "Mmmm, excuse me....I don't think God exists" then they burn him, because the "We so so" outweigh the "He said so" since all is subjective and nobody can find an objective way of determining who is more probably correct - politics.
And if Galileo says "No the world is not the centre of the cosmos" it is because "He said so" and that contradicts "God's words", His "I say so".

We're coming close to chimpanzee territory now....because without God who will be the "I say so" everyone agrees with, or submits to?
Again...for these retards, there is no standard outside ALL subjective views to determine what is more, and what is less, probably so.
All is subjective, so all is determined by "I say so" or as it first began "The Word of God".

The Modern retard needs someone to tell him what to think.
To every opinion he asks: "Who says so?"
not a comparison to his own experiences of the world, but always in reference to another subjective opinion.

Is it a sanctioned authority, a God, a famous respected somebody, like a movie star, or an infamous guru with a huge following of imbeciles, or a nobody?
Has he the authority to speak on behalf of them all?
Has he the right to speak his mind, outside another subjective opinion, or contrary to the shared "We say so"?

Who has the "might" to determine what is "right"?
The majority....not the king, not the king of kings, no, nowadays it is the majority.
They have the quantity, the might...and there is no quality that can outweigh it.

In the past who could doubt that if the "expert" said that that strange spinster with the cats, living in a shack by the river, was a witch, then she was, most probably, a witch.
He even had tests to determine what a witch is, and how to recognize one.

A retard thinks..."Is it better to be a retard, ro smart?"
It has no way to decide what is better....
No God to tell him...
the world is kept from making his stupidity pay the price, so he wonders if there is any way to decide what is better and what is worse: stupidity or intelligence.
Either/or.
Is it better to be crippled or able bodied?
No God....who can say.

With God dead, his good/bad decrees hover up there...as it were.
Who can give meaning to these words now?
No god...no world outside subjective perspectives...so we have reached an impasse.
A very satisfying impasse.
with no way to decide what is more probable than not, and no God to declare it as Truth, all is equally ignorant....all equally retarded.
The retard finds salvation.
He's disappeared in a uniformity of stupidity...nothing to be ashamed of, nobody to call him sinner.




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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Tue Jun 23, 2015 11:50 am

Outcrops of Modern degradation...

Might is Right is rooted in Nihilistic subjectivity in that it implies that whomever has the power is automatically correct about everything he says and does.
The "I say so" of subjectivity, going back to the "Word of the ONE God"
In other words, his subjectivity overrides all others.
A reversal.


The objectivist, the Pagan realist, in touch with reality, places the standard of determining power outside himself.
He who is most correct, most right, about the world, or about a particular situation, gains the advantage, which is called power.



The Modern mistakes the interactivity of a phenomenon for an attribute, independent from it.
He presumes that all traits, characteristics, are add-ons to a secret hidden thing - a unity, a one.

A planet's mass, (inter)acting with a satellite's mass is something the planet does to the satellite.
The pattern planet is acting upon the pattern satellite, not that the planet's pattern is this acting with the satellite's pattern also acting, and so (inter)acting.
The acting is other than the pattern, not the acting IS the pattern.
The act is something other than the being, the presence.
This, in his mind, holds true for all appearances...which are superficial, meaning they are shallow representations of a deeper truth, a hidden core being, an immutable spirit.
Therefore all (inter)actions, all change, is illusionary, a game.
The kosmos is an immutable thing, a one, a Being.

Not that the appearance, the presence, IS the manifestation of the past/nature, but that the past happened to the present.
The present being the passive, static, thing, which is affected by the past, or by all other presences.
Need/suffering happens to the individual; time/change happens to the individual; flow happens to the particle, the thing; appearance is added to the phenomenon.
 
Consequently, for the Modern need/suffering are not the experience of existing, but something that the individual is forced to endure, implying that an existence minus need/suffering is a desirable ideal: paradise translated as utopia.
They are not interpretation of the individual awakening to his own existence, but traits independent from this existence, forced upon him, by some evil entity, or the product of this spirit's ignorance, sinfulness - salvation in gnosis (education), enlightenment.
In other words, there is a hidden core, a thing-in-itself which suffers, and acts, but is independent from this suffering and acting.


The Pagan knows that need/suffering IS the experience of his (inter)acting, and his (inter)acting is his existing.


The Modern always places the plan, his own objective outside his judgement.
for him the absolute is out there awaiting discovery, or the ideal is already decided and awaiting for him to find it, somewhere out there.
He makes of himself the priest, speaking on behalf of an absolute all will eventually discover for themselves. The Modern hides himself in fake humility, claiming only that he is the gifted one who has peered into the Godhead, and is now offering its message.
He is a coward trying to pretend he is only speaking on behalf of a truth he has no participation in constructing and maintaining.


For the Pagan the ideal is his own projection, and he says so openly.
He calls his own, to share, or who do share, in his projection and in his evaluation that it is a desirable objective.
The Pagan is honest about his motives, and does not mask them in priestly declaration of universal truths, and cosmic absolutes.
For the Pagan the absolute is what is absent, and he is the creator of all absolutes, each with its own agenda and its own collateral effects.



The Modern thinks in absolutes which only exist in his own mind.
All is, after all, subjective.
His nouemna ARE the cosmic absolute, and his brain is this absolute's conduit.
He is the priestly brain acting as means for a Divine power to appear. He is one of the chosen.
In his either/or universe the absolute either can only be replaced with an absolute or, where both either & or are abstractions detached from reality, or subjective.
Therefore, for him, all opinions are words, declarations, which only acquire value through popularity, or multiplicity, or numbers.
Numbers (symbolic values) are his only method of deciding what is superior and what is inferior.


The Pagan decides inferior/superior based on pragmatic application, and if this is not possible, through the quality of reference points his abstractions have to what is perceived, as phenomenon; to what appears.
By the quality of the arguments and the evidence, and not only the quantity.  



For the Modern the past is what happens to this spirit, implying a pure soul made evil, soiled, by existing.
What diverts form his ideal is ill. He always asks: "What happened to you?"


The Pagan does not separate the past/nature from the presence, the appearance.

To the Modern's question "What happened to you?"  he replies "I happened."
There is no "you" independent from happening.
The happening IS you.
The acting IS you.
There is no positive/negative relating, there IS relating, and it is positive/negative in relation to the ones participating, if they be conscious of this relating.
Every trait, observed/interpreted, by another IS you being interpreted, and in the interpretation lost.
All speak but not all speak clearly and wisely - all interpret, observe but not with the same clarity and sophistication.
All exist but not all are equal in existing.
All are ignorant and weak, but not to the same degree.
All are born, but not with the same potentials.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Wed Jun 24, 2015 12:47 pm

We begin from the phenomenon, the symptom, evaluating its appearance in all its variants separately and then connecting them, if possible, with a shared pattern.
We do the same in relation to being(s), as it relates to Being, beginning with the being of life, consciousness of Being, and then moving towards Being that precedes this emergence of consciousness, as self-consciousness proceeds from consciousness. and consciousness proceeds from existence, or Becoming, (inter)acting.

An evaluation of language must follow, as the logos, the reason explaining, understanding, how the symptom expresses a particular state of being, in relation to Being.

The symptom is apparent, it appears, in others.
It is accessible to all, in all its forms.
It appears as an opinion, a world-view, a presupposition in relation to Becoming.
It is an expression of mind in relation to world (noumenon relating to phenomena); a symptom requiring a diagnosis.
As all appearance sit is a manifestation of a past (nature) - the end result, the pinnacle, of a causal chain, just as nature is the word used to represent the sum of all preceding nurturing, or with regards to Becoming (Flux) outside being (life, self-ordering), the sum of all (inter)actions manifesting as presence.
Our work, out diagnosis, will be an uncovering, of this past, connecting the causal chain, finding patterns that lead to out understanding.

The diagnosis might be in error but the symptoms are apparent.
For the diagnosis to be accurate, or more probable, it must gather these symptoms under a common pattern and then connect it with other patterns not immediately relating to the apparent.


In this case, the symptoms have been connected to the pattern, the psychological disposition, expressed memetically, of Nihilism, the idea(l), and so are given the expression of "Signs & Symbols of Nihilism".  
To evaluate the probability of accuracy we must then proceed to define the Nihilism we speak of, before we analyze how the symptoms connect and are manifestations of this Idea(l).    
We have determined that the common usage of the conception "nihilism", its historical usage, is an inversion, and we've explained this inversion as rooted in the very essence of Nihilism which is to invert, to negate the real, the world.
The historical definition of nil, the negative, of world, is in relation to the human constructs of morality, meaning, purpose, which find no reference outside human brains.
This sets up the conflict between subjective (noumenon) and objective (phenomenon) which is the essence of Nihilism, as the negation of the real, and its description of ti as negative: lacking human morality, meaning, purpose.
We've described world as the positive, and its lacking human concepts being presented as necessary for this positive to be accepted as such is a symptom of the psychology of Nihilism.
World precedes life, and it lacks meaning, purpose, morality, but this lack results in the emergence of life that eventually creates these concepts as necessary to its continuance.
This implies a conflict between beings and Becoming, or between noumenon/phenomenon, or subjective/objective.
A conflict the Greeks called agon, and experience by an emergent consciousness as need/suffering.  
To use another metaphor, it is the conflict between a Fluctuating, entropic world, conflicting with an ordering, becoming organism, awakening to the world (consciousness) and to itself within the world (self-consciousness) - a conflict best reflected as the separation of ideal from real, or logos and existing, or intuition and counter-intuition resulting in mythology, mysticism, and Art, language (logos) being an art-form, a representational expression of nous in harmony with world or in conflict with it.

With Nihilism the fluidity, of phenomenon, is negated noetically with the symbol, the static representational form, acquiring its height in the abstracting language of numbers and geometric shapes.
The word, and its Religious constructs in Abrahamic religions, becomes the negating negative, the "positive" human concept, which was missing but now is found hidden or in the beyond, in the unreal.
God is the hidden word that gives meaning to what is meaningless and purpose to that with no telos, and morality to the amoral, the indifference of world.
This new definition, inverting the real with an ideal, is what continues to produce paradoxes, and these conflicting value-judgments with no reference point - pure noetic conflicts with no standard outside of them to decide.
The value of this conflict is to offer hope, as with the conflict, something becoming war and other times remaining on the level of dialogue, battle of words, over words, excludes the world lacking purpose, meaning, morality, and creates a noetic space, a Nihilistic paradigm with dueling dualistic poles, determined by the binary way the human brain works - a binary method based on simple cellular on/off processes - diastole/systole.
Some other expression of this binary paradigm are found in the scientific negative/positive, BigBang/BigCrunch, or in the religious God/Satan, Good/Evil, and the political Right/Left, Free/Unfree, Communism/Capitalism..



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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Wed Jun 24, 2015 1:58 pm

The Nihilistic inversion follows two directions, has two expressions, in relation to subjective/objective, I/other.

The first is in relation to world, the real, and its imposition of the idea(l), as a literal replacement of the real; the word replacing the act, the (inter)activity, the noumnon overriding the phenomenon, the static representation replacing the fluctuating apparent.
Already explored above.

The second is in relation to self, and its placement at the ambiguous "center" of a presumed whole, making man the measure of all things.
Man, as thing, represents the standard by which all things are evaluated.
The inter-subjective solipsistic self-referential world of man. The concept "world" is now elusively taken over by the concept man, through the idea()l) of "self".
Self is the "known" the absolute point of departure.
It's past can be negated, forgotten, projecting self only towards future, as a Becoming with a definite point of Being.

With "self" as the absolute one, the beginning, the past in inconsequential,. Self emerges as effect with no cause, and the future is the possible, the choices, opening up to this self with nothing to inhibit it, as the determining past/nature has been negated.
Self as human, as being with logos makes of logos, the word, the starting point...First comes the word, later to be replaced by the number (1)...
Man as the absolute Being, the one, the unity, with no cause and only effect - man as self-referential, self-creating.
Man replaces God, as the internal absolute, no longer requiring an external foundation.
Identity becomes a product of human choices, whims, fashions, and the only restriction is what preserves the illusion of the idea(l)from facing the real.
Man, suing words, declares himself to be whatever he wishes to be, if it does not affect the identity of the other.
A shared Nihilistic meme, with the internal freedom to detach, noetically, from past/nature, or the world.
Mass madness, schizophrenia, because the genes,a s the carriers of past, cannot be dismissed, but only repressed, corrected, forgotten and denied.
The Last Man stands as the man with no heritage, nothing inherited worth keeping, or selectively sampled - the sampling man, fragmented man.




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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Wed Jun 24, 2015 4:27 pm

An unexceptional consequence of the previous is that the individual assumes that all opinions concerning reality are self-serving. That the one proposing a position as superior to that of another is either channeling a external consciousness or is simply presenting a world of his liking, one that benefits him.
The conflicting views are conflicting self-interests (politics), or subjectivities with no external authority to declare one the victor over the other. The objective world already dismissed as n on-existent or only applicable when human nature is not involve - outside the human inter-subjective realm.
With the natural world excluded the dialogue, the conflict of word, becomes one of conflicting political views, within the environment of polis, the manmade world within cocooned subjectivities.

The modern can only deal with real as a rational willful act.
The idea of an indifferent (inter)acting, tending towards chaos, reality, is terrifying to him.

With no natural selection memetic selection takes on the form of debate, and seducing using rhetoric, to gain the numbers.
Convincing as many subjectivite minds to your self-interests, your perspective, validates it as "superior".
The possibility that an opinion may conflict with the opinion holder's self-interests is foreign to the Modern.
Subjectivity  made invulnerable to culling results in a subjectivity unconcerned about anything outside its premises, or with anything that cannot intervene upon its self-referential, self-serving abstractions.
This eliminates from the realm of relevance everything outside the premises of the polis, the inter-subjective realm of cooperative unities - the political realm of competing ideals.

With the natural world, the past, excluded and reality beyond the borders to human will, the city's edge, the rules of competing change.
creativity, in offering the masses a seductive idea(l) becomes a validation of self within the polis - within the SuperOrganism.
The external world is inconsequential because it is now dealt with through the cooperative unity, indirectly, and never personally.
Philosophy is reduced to political-philosophy, and only deals with reality as it applies within the human constructs, and through human abstractions, usually behind authorities, experts, popular idols.
Describing the world no longer means describing what is indifferent to human subjective interpretations of it, but is now a description of an internal reality, dealing with internal human (inter)actions.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Wed Jun 24, 2015 5:45 pm

Different standards for measuring ideals determine the variety and direction the ideals will take.

Using quantity, or inter-subjective popularity, or social utility, as your standard, will direct the multiplicity of ideals and how they are evaluated...and if this inter-subjectivity is self-referential and Nihilistic, in that it denies an objective reality and denounces the past/nature as inapplicable, then the multiplicity of ideals will only be limited by the the Golden Rule, preserving the other's "right" to live in his own subjective world, and the limits determined in the past/nature, containing the quality of creativity and of imagination.

Among those who use an external, to their preferences, their subjectivity, standards for evaluating an ideal, the world's patterns, related to by the individual's organic hierarchies, his/her psychology, will determine which ideals will be chosen as the guiding principle of their choices.

Each ideal will have an immediate affect in the one striving towards it, and the one on that path, if (s)he be honest and not a hypocritical coward, will measure himself against his progress towards it.

How connected to reality the ideal is will decide how in harmony the individual inspired by the ideal will feel.
A Nihilistic ideal will burden the individual with the necessity of an internal separation between mind/body; a schism, where innate drives are repressed and pure abstracted noetic ideals are idolized, creating an internal conflict, a dis-harmony.
This dis-harmony may produce neurosis, be expressed in dreams in sexual fetishism, sexual dysfunction, paraphilia, obesity, addiction to mind-numbing ideals and chemicals, escapism and so on.
The natural, denied, must be put to sleep for the noetic to continue living its self-referential abstraction, its delusion, but it canto be killed.
The past, as experiences/memories, are stored in the DNA...they are the organism itself, and only the mind, using words, can hope to detach itself from this determined inheritance.



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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Sat Jun 27, 2015 7:36 pm

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Inversion of nihilism: over-complicating the simple, and over-simplifying the complex.
When Nihilism morphed from its religious form to its Modern, secular, form, as any virus would, it retained many of its past structures, metaphors, methods, altering them only symbolically, changing the words they are expressed through.

For instance, when Marxism took over from Judeo-Christianity, it maintained the holy mysticism, the monistic hierarchy, and the propaganda, the linguistic imagery for passing on its message to the masses it infected.
Convoluting the simplicity of what is being proposed, with jargon, referring and deferring, to the point where if the participants lack the knowledge they can be dismissed as not worth listening to, the usage of flesh and blood idols, as if they had been sanctified by some god, turned into political saints whose mere naming would suffice to imply a point the speaker cannot clarify himself, obfuscation, avoiding clarification, trying to make what is being proposed appear so complex only the chosen, indoctrinated, and trained in the scripture, and part of the holy family tree, can dare to intrude upon.
The concepts are not complex, but trying to keep track of the noetic-strings connecting one definition, with another, a response to it; who said what about who, and what another responded, is the "complexity".
At its base this type of "philosophy" is gossip, remaining completely abstract, never connecting the noumena it is linking together into a webbing, to the real, not because it can and refuses to, but because it cannot, being involved in pure noetic discourse, pure Nihilistic word-games, with no reference to the world outside human contrivances.

If you listen to Communists speak it would seem like they were speaking about something profound, deep, intricate, when it has no more intricacy than Christian rituals, and chants.
Keeping track of the saintly interpretation of the shared Idea(l), it being nihilistic, is the only thing complex here.
You would have to study for a long period to grasp what each idol represented within the internet of Nihilism, and how each one participated within the noetic solar-system with the bright sun, in the middle, being the Nil, the life-negating energy of eros/thymos – the passion of construction/destruction.
The web of connections are exclusively noetic, never approaching the phenomenon directly.
An inter-subjective matrix of nouemna, words, definitions, redirecting back to other noumena, other abstractions, some stronger, hubs, from which more connections emerge, attaching to a nexus; the world itself skirted around, knitting a cover to enclose it and never touch it.
The inter-subjective cocoon is a shell hovering around the real, avoiding contact with it, because if it would come into contact with it the Nihilistic shell would shatter, like an empty rotting egg of idea(l)s with no substance, no appearance outside the human SuperOrganic world.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Sat Jun 27, 2015 9:33 pm

The word referring to an abstraction, is a representation of that abstraction that Noumenon.

The noumenon need not refer to a phenomenon, or what appears in space/time and is simplified/generalized into the abstraction, into a thing.
The word is a tool, a symbol, and it may very well refer back to itself and other abstractions, connected and integrated into a bigger abstraction, a larger idea(l), or, it may very well refer to an abstraction in an other's mind, transferred linguistically to one's own.

If the abstraction, the noumenon, and the word representing it, has no reference outside minds, to the apparent sensual world, the real, then it is ambiguous, and if taken literally, and not as a tool, a representation, it can function as a nullification of the real, the apparent.

The abstraction is a static, simplification/generalization, of a (inter)active, a dynamic phenomenon, and, as such, its effectiveness is determined by how well ti serves its function, how good of a tool it is, and how well it simplifies/generalizes the dynamic.

By understanding what the word is, and how it relates to what it is supposed to represent, and simplify/generalize, one is not dismissing its function, but one is clarifying, it, sharpening the tool, as it were, and one is also throwing away words that refer to nothing but back to human constructs with no reference outside minds, sharing, perhaps, a common definition, along with the imagery, to make the word functional within the human world of communication, exploitation, hierarchies.
Confusing the representation for the represented, is idolatry, and in this nihilism is a form of idolatry which with its representations annuls what is perceived and replaces it with symbols, numbers, concepts with no reference outside the mind, constructing an ideal, idealized, inter-subjective alternate "reality".
Once it assimilates, indoctrinates, enough minds into this alternate noetic universe, it can begin to self-refer, self-validate, relying, now, upon numbers, or popular appeal, referendum, to validate or to dismiss an idea(l).
These Nihilistic memes require a certain number of subjects, to inappropriate into its alternate universe, for it to become viable, and so population control and seduction, is its primary usage of words.

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This is why you will find in Nihilistic discourse, this endless chatter using words detached from reality, but continuously referring and deferring to others minds, from where the participants have adopted them, with little effort of their own.
They approach world not directly, as it appears, but via proxies, and working backwards.
Philosophy has become a continuous talk about someone else's talk, about someone else's talk.

The Modern is obsessed with politics, because here the inter-subjective chatter, reaches the apex of its self-referential dialogue, within a shared memetic context where the words need only remain true to a certain Book which lends them meaning.
Communism was the first secular form of this Nihilistic trait. A secularization of its Judeo-Christian inheritance, which then submitted to the superiority of method Capitalism offered.

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The mind's entrapment within its own abstractions, is what produces these linguistic paradoxes, these fools carry out o their mind's cave to expose how unable to think outside this binary system they are.
The Modern is unable to think in degrees, as the mind is a tool that fabricates absolutes to make them useful to the organism which need not think of anything beyond the simple satiation of needs.
Lacking any artistry, it relies on artists to feed it inspiration, but it can only appreciate them in a very simple/general literal way.

What makes abstractions useful in relation to world, survival, makes them useful when world, survival, is guaranteed, protected, ensured, and the mind can direct them, their usage, to escape world, and/or to masturbate, to pleasure himself using these abstractions, these detached from world idea(l)s.
hedonism is the quintessential foundation of Modernity. The sensation of satiation, of release of gathered energies, but with no outcome, no natural consequence.
Communism and then Capitalism takes these energies, these libidinal energies with no product, and redirects them towards other objectives, most based no abstractions with no reference point.
We can reduce the conflict of right/left, between the Nihilistic binary political poles of Communism/Capitalism, to a symbolic struggle; a fight over who decides where to direct libidinal energies toward abstractions which have to reference point outside human brains.
This exploitation of libidinal resources, taken away form the individual who is not neither female nor male, neither black nor white, but worker, or number/word, is how elites manipulate human resources to their own ends, while selling inter-subjective delusions, nihilistic constructs, internally.



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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:54 am

Mind = noumenon (abstraction)

Body = phenomenon (appearance, apparent, presence)

The Noetic (abstraction) can detach itself from the world, and be pure abstraction, such as the mathematical linguistic form.
The Body (physical) is (inter)activity. It cannot escape the Flux; it IS the Flux, or a part of it having reached a certain level of order.
The mind can combine its perceptions in any way its imagination/creativity permits....it is not bound by reality, by physical ordering. This is why the noumenon can become nihilistic, replacing the phenomenon with words totally disconnected from any phenomenon...from anything present, apparent.
Universal morals, meaning, purpose, and God as the anthropomorphic representative of all this human artificiality are examples of noetic constructs with no preference to anything outside the mind.

Abrahamic Religions = Judaism, Islam, Christianity - the modern triad of spiritual nihilism.
The worshipers of nil, proposing an alternate world, a world above, beyond, with all the human constructs "missing" from the world: universal morality, meaning, purpose, God, - a realm withing which the absolute is not absent - singularity, later to develop the "nil" to explain the sensually perceive, casting the world as the "negative" that which is to be escaped, denied, forgotten (lethe).
Worshipers of death - the death wish.
These religions usher in the age of Nihilism, in the west; age of inverted definitions for words, and their detachment from any reference to the apparent so as to accomplish the inversion.
Religions of the word, by the word, for the word..and the First Word is...GOD.

Modern = current, socioeconomic, cultural manifestation of the nihilistic psychology.
Secular Humanism = A characteristic of the Modern Age, the Last Man age of Nihilism.
It replaces the terms, flips them around, adjusts them to altering socioeconomic circumstances, due to advancement in techniques/technologies, and the capacity to bury away the world and repalce it with a manmade world.

Nihilism defining Nil - Modern = What lacks a universal morality, meaning, purpose, in other words a world lacking an absolute (absent absolute).
Nihilism (proper) = What denies reality, as it is, and projects human artifices, such as absolutes as the necessary correction for what is lacking, in reference to human needs (emotions).
God can be included in this absent absolute which is missing, for the Modern Nihilist to consider the world "positive".

World = Flux - ceaseless (inter)activity never settling upon a singularity/absolute.
World is "positive" in that it is what offers possibility, within which probability emerges.
This space/time of the possible, the (inter)active, is what makes life possible, and as a consequence consciousness, giving rise to mind, the noumenon.

World (Modern) = the inter-subjective world of man and all his artifices, including morality, universal meaning, purpose, truth, and his techniques/technologies manufacturing absolutes, and/or literally interpreting the words being used to represent the world.

Probability = a restriction of possibility, also called "order".
Order = the inter)active exhibiting a persistent, repeating, predictable, pattern.

Chaos (Modern) = complexity, that within which no pattern is perceived - the Alexandrian mind-set, expressing the faith based Judeo-Cristian past assumes a pattern behind, beneath, all dynamic (inter)actions.
The Christians assumed a God, of Order, of Absolute oneness.
The secular forms of the same psychology assume a particle, a substance, an order beneath all which exists.

Chaos (proper) = that (inter)activity which lacks all pattern - randomness.
Unpredictable, inconsistent, non-repeating.
chaos makes life impossible, since life is ordering - self-ordering as a reaction/resistance to the increasing entropy, chaos.
Life is (re)active. It begins by sustaining itself within the Flux - preserving what order it has attained, and then, with the excess energies it has appropriated in its need to self-preserve, it directs itself towards: growth, procreation, then becoming creation/creativity,.
Art is a product of excess...or leisure, as the Marxists/Capitalist duality of economic Nihilism have called it.

Real = That which refers to world.
The subjective approaching the objective...also called Truth in reference to a perspective of the real.
Idea(l) = A mental model (abstraction, noumenon) representing the world.
Used to orient the organism and to direct it towards an object/objective.
An (idea(l)s objectivity is gauged by the quantity and quality of reference point the abstraction, the noumenon, has to the apparent, the phenomenon.
The cost/price and the benefit will only affect the organism using the noumenon to orient and direct itself within the world of (inter)activity.
The idea(l) for a non-nihilist is a signpost, a direction, an objective to focus upon so as to direct its aggregate energies (synergy), in relation to what is valued, what is most desirable, appreciated in self and in otherness. It is not something to be attained, but only moved towards, struggled for - agon.
For the nihilist, obsessed with escaping a world of no absolutes, and wanting to escape the immutability, the determining indifference, of past/nature, the "Idea(l)" is always world negating, world denying, self-hating, forever detaching self from world suing words: noetic detachment, self-retardation, self-narcosis etc. This is only able to sustain itself if there is a mechanism, an institutionalized cocooning world of man protecting such minds from a world indifferent to their methods of self-medication.
For the Pagan the Idea(s) is to be known (know Thyself), accepted, coped with, because it will not be pleasant, and used. The Idea(l), for him, is the incorporation of past/nature, sharped and tested in the immediate, presence/present, outside human artifices, outside the socioeconomic cultural realm of inter-subjectivity, so as to achieve clarity, lucidity, objectivity.
The ability to restrict the effect of corrupting elements in thinking (emotion, ego, self-interest, the death-wish) will determine the quality of the outcome in relation to world. then, the Pagan moves towards incorporating into his Idea(l)s manmade constructs, which are no more than parts of nature, not nature itself, and with Nihilistic socioeconomic cultures they may even be contrary to nature.
This is the Bottom<>Up method of thinking.
The nihilist, the modern, is obsessed with the Top<>Down method...where one begins with the Idea(l) and then works backwards trying to justify and maintain it, preserve it within a world indifferent to his tricks.

Subjective = the interpretation of the (inter)active - the simplification/generalization of the Flux into a form the brain can process and use; a form to incorporate into an abstraction, a mental model, a noumenon so as to orient and direct its aggregate energies.
Objective = Another word for world - the world made as a destination, a desirable contact between the subjective interpretation and that which is interpreted - harmony.

Objective (Modern) = A socioeconomic cultural objective - ambition.
Within manmade inter-subjective "realities" the objective only has a Nihilistic definition of finality, singularity, an absolute: happiness, love, wealth, life, God, status, materialism, hedonism.
When Moderns speak of an objective, in reference to philosophy science or religion, they always mean an absolute which is missing, but is "possible" within the realm of inter-subjective nihilism.
A final solution would be omnipotence, absolute power...omniscience, a final knowledge of ALL, absolute morality, a universal rule of behavior, purpose, a universal cosmic telos, end, singularity.
meaning ceases being a (inter)action of fluctuating patterns and become the absolute defining Word of God.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Fri Jul 03, 2015 9:55 am

Another way to understand the Subjective/objective relationship as it pertains to Real/Ideal.

Objective = world, as in past/nature.
The past is immutable, in that it cannot be altered only uncovered, known and if patterns are perceived in this past/nature, understood.
All absolutes are description of this past/nature which is immutable, unalterable, and so "absolute" in a noetic sense...as memeory, recall.

Subjective = that which is interpreting what manifest as present, and is the past/nature becoming apparent.
The past does not exist in the sense of being a thing, or a sum of things in a previous time/space, but it existed in the sense of presence, appearance, phenomenon.
Past/Nature does exist as presence....that which appears IS this past/nature manifesting as presence.

The amount of time require to perceive, using a medium, and then process (convert to bio-energy, and then abstract, convert the data to a nouemnon), makes the mind lag behind the existing.
The noumenon is a step behind the phenomenon, the (inter)acting, and this is is why intelligence/imagination are so fundamental and dominant in reality, because they find patterns in the past/nature to use so as to predict, project probabilities, into the future overcoming this lag.  

The Idea(l) is this projection, where if it is dismissive of the past/nature, or rejects it or is ignorant of it, it is a projection of the nonsensical, the absurd.
To Know Thyself is to know this past/nature so that the subjective interpretation of the objective world is in harmony, accurate, or as close as possible.
Truth, Reality are words denoting the bridging of this gap between subjective and objective.

The more in harmony the interpretation, the subjective, is to the fluctuating, the objective world, the more accurate the projection, the more noble the idea(l), used to direct the aggregate energies of the organism.
Identity has to do with this projected Idea(l) and how it compares to the past/nature. The intent of the organism to move towards an object/objective, an Idea(l), is what identifies it, and its mind/body relationship.
Here, in this mind/body dichotomy relationship is where psychology/personality is determined, and how this relates to the past/nature and its projected objective is what determines this personality's character...its essence.  

Words/number are, therefore, symbols of noetic abstractions - artistic tools, representing the past/nature and the projected Idea(l), depending how the organism uses them at any given time.
a tool has no meaning outside its utility, without a mind to use it, direct it.
So, numbers and words are meaningless if there is no mind present to apply them towards an object/objective...they have no innate meaning.
A hammer with no hand to yield it is not a hammer; without a purpose, given to it by the mind using it, the tool hammer is not a tool, it is a stick and a head of metal: a configuration of elements, (inter)acting with no telos, like every other (inter)action.

It is the mind, the organism which gives meaning, purpose, within a world with no meaning and/or purpose.
It is a noumenon projecting an objective which gives the world a telos, an end, a universal order.
Numbers/Words are tools used to represent...they are not what is represented.
There are no particles, no ones, no nils, no things, no quanta, no substance outside the mind that reduces the (inter)active to an abstraction: simplification/generalization.
If these tools are taken literally then the mind is entrapped within its own artifices, its own noetic devices...it is caged within its noetic universe...solipsism, or inter-subjective reality. It, then, exists within manmade construct, where all is equally subjective and no superior perspective is admitted.
Though, how subjectivity can reach this level without the evolutionary rule of 'survival of the fittest" is a paradox these stunted minds are trapped in.
If superior intelligence, superior judgment, was not selected for, then what does Natural Selection mean, and how did intelligence evolve at all?
does evolution work only on the body, leaving the mind at peace, at rest, in perpetual repose?
If stress, the stress of an (inter)active objective world challenging the subjective interpreting mind, does not participate in evolution then, without God, what determines species and which ones will survive as others go extinct?
What role would sex have without the imperative of selecting for the fittest?

Before we advance up to the level of man and his social economic strictures and hierarchies, we must begin at the foundations of existence, then work ourselves up to life, of which man is simply a part of.
From the bottom upwards we must find patterns that remain true for longer periods of time.
Only then do we proceed to analyze human social, economic political relationships as these were determined by this past, this natural past.
our analysis, in every stage, should not be dominated by our emotions, our desires, how we can apply what we perceive, but first we must appraise it independent of all application, all need, desire, emotion.
Only then can the mind find an application, if at all possible, a utility in what it has perceived objectively, by excluding its hopes, and desires and needs.
But data is not always useful, it has no solution...one cannot correct the world.
It may be useful and only in relation to self...man changes himself in relation to world, not world in relation to himself
His civilization is a microcosm of self, expanded into a artificial reality, which may be Nihilistic or Realistic, more or less objective in comparison to another.


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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Fri Jul 03, 2015 11:26 am

Nihilism...
as noted, the modern invention of the concept was in relation to an undesirable wold, one void of meaning, purpose, morality, absolutes. The definition expresses the Russian spirit's seeped in Judeo-Christian dis-ease, explaining, also, why they took to Marxism.

Marxism is the quintessential secularization of Judaism and its daughters Christianity/Islam: both western expressions of a dis-ease also emerging in the east as Buddhism, in relation to Aryan Hinduism.
Marxism creates an inter-subjective, noetic space-time alternative, rejecting the world.
it cancels race, sex, and identity as sum of your past, reinventing man as "human" or "worker", in relation to state.
Man as (inter)active phenomenon, the sum of nurturing appearing as presence, becomes worker. Activity is transformed to labor, and identity goes through others, belonging to the same SuperOrganic body, the Communist State.
A worker's only identity is in how useful he is to others. The connection between himself and past/nature, outside human artificial environments (nihilistic space/time continuum), is severed, and it is replaced with a prosthesis.

In Judaism, and Christianity/Islam the same process severs the individual form his family - see Jesus and how he seduces the Apostles - the prosthesis, the identifier, is sinfulness, chosen to suffer no behalf of God, for being born human.
death is the gateway to an alternate "reality", a Supernatural World = Paradise.
With Marxism and later Trasnhumanism Paradise is placed "in the space/time" continuum of experience, but as either immanent future...Utopia.
Capitalism also adopts the Marxist identifiers, but only applies them using more "natural" methods. it retains hierarchies but determines them via service, utility, the erotic principle: seduction, marketing, selling your work, your talents, your services to those you share nothing but the same space/time continuum and the values Idea(l) the market supplies for you...now called ambitions.

Marxism retains the same Christian ritualization of relationships. It has its priestly class, its believers, and saints emerging from this communion of body, beneath the Church of State.
It also has its sacrificial rites, which are the sacrifice of blood-ties, freedom, natural identifiers, ancestry as manifested presence. They wear uniforms to pretend the past/nature has been buried, forgotten.
It fails for this reason.
Retaining the populations in infancy, with no sense of self, and no way of knowing self other than through parent/State and others, the population becomes lethargic, irresponsible, childlike...remedied only by a steady as enforcement of State violence.
The outcome is that of a State run orphanage, where the orphans with no biological parent cling to the teachers, seeking approval, love, from their harshness.
In Capitalism the orphans, having been taken away from their family's are allowed to run free - divide and conquer, providing them with distractions, and goals that direct their infantile play.
If not from the state, or some church Father, the orphans seeks approval from each other.
The other validating their self-worth...popularity, marketability.

Mixing, "melting pot" ensures that this condition is made permanent.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Fri Jul 03, 2015 2:16 pm

Tridimensional Nature of Nihilism: Intellectual/Spiritual/Physical corresponding to Mind/Nervous System/Body.
State/Institution/ideal

All three as One = singularity in three parts; manifesting in three dimensional space with the fourth being the movement of the absolute within them, transmutation.
The monad, the absolute particle, shifts essence as it moves through the three states.

Satan representing the five-dimensional space/time of (inter)active Flux = nature.
In the Nihilistic paradigm Satan, the real, plays the role of dividing partitioning, place holding, nil.
The triad of nihilism is subdivided into three by the satanic.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Sun Jul 05, 2015 10:28 pm

A tactic I'be observed among the Modern Nihilists, the most recent, most obvious, example being shit-Stain, now off enjoying the lifestyle of the world's most interesting man:

>>First you declare yourself genius, or something approaching it.
An expert, you mention your credentials, your stuff, how much money you make...etc.
The tactic is a first intimidation attempt. An attempt to impress...to imprint in the other. . 

>>Then, if challenged, defer and refer to a famous thinker, considered by the majority as a genius, or, at lest, a notable intellectual.
This step will intimidate those who find such famous names challenging to understand. 

>>Then, if challenged, refer to a non-famous intellectual, implying that you know of his work inside and out and that you have proceeded out of the mundane, mainstream and are now in uncharted waters, where the many do not follow. 
This step will give out homework, thusly breaking the exchange until the other reads-up, understands, and, if still interested, returns to challenge once more. 

Each step preserves the facade of superiority without having to prove it.
See, for the Modern having read a famous intellectual means you immediately are his mouthpiece. 
Then, the debate might become a struggle over who understood the famous thinker the best...this is typical among Marxist who spend hours debating over who is the best representative of Trotsky, or Bakunin or some such Communist Saint....just as communists spend hours debating who got the world of Aquinas, or Jesus, precisely.
The conversation settles on interpreting the Biblical, or Manifesto text, the best...or upon which version of the interpretation should be the official version, setting up the splintering-off of factions, and/or denominations.
The fact that each reader of an author immediately becomes a representative of his understanding of said author, and any subject, consequently dealt with, need not refer to the original author, because each reader IS the interpreted, and the understood, applied. 

For example, each reader of Kant has understood Kant in his own way, or has adopted a more popular interpretation of Kant, found in many books dealing with interpreting Kant.
Same goes for Hume, Spinoza, Nietzsche, Schopenhauer etc.
Most are too cowardly to posit their interpretation directly, and so they will defer to the original as if to imply they and the author of like mind, or that in whatever way the other understood Kant, that is what is meant, without having to display an equal understanding. 

Now, in the case of referring and deferring to relatively unknown thinkers the one referring is using the author's obscure work as a reason to dismiss the other, as in "you are not on my level of knowledge...understanding" when the one using this method may not even understand the author cited himself.

The fact that if the one proposing a source as evidence in support of an  argument should also be able to apply the reasoning directly, does not register.
The one trying to evade will use this ruse to break-off from the other, dismissively.
If personA, for instance has read Nietzsche and has understood his reasoning and arguments, then personaA when faced with a challenger personB, would apply said reasoning and arguments directly himself, without having to refer, or to defer, but only as an acknowledged mentor, or a source.  
 

Having read an author, the author and the manner in which you've interpreted him, understood him, become part of you, and your thinking in relation to any subject. 
If this is not the case, then you will refer to him, trying to present the author as intimidation, or implying that the author's reasoning, as understood by the other, is also your own. 
A sly trick.
If you defer to the author you are simply avoiding the challenger, the other, by forcing him to debate the famous author directly, while you hide behind him.  

Referring to an author as a supporting element, is natural, doing so without any accompanying arguments of your own, in reference to the subject being discussed, is hypocritical, and cowardly.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Mon Jul 06, 2015 7:08 pm

In the realm of Moderns inversions, the idea(l) becomes real, and the artificial becomes natural.
This is the inter-subjective "world" of man: supernatural, and surreal.

Within its man-made, and maintained, boundaries, organs are tools; not self manifested, but extensions of self, add-ons, a covering...

Anus, vagina, penis, lungs, eyes, ears, all parts of a cyborg.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Tue Jul 07, 2015 7:30 am

Nihilistic Inversions
Cosmopolitanism

Hellenic cosmopolitanism was polyglotic, multiplicity of expressions rooted in a shared identity.
When Judaism came into contact with Hellenism the birth of Christianity inverted the expression of cosmopolitanism turning it into a Monistic idea(l) rooted in a multiplicity, polyglotic, identity.
For the Pagans identity found in the past, and self was its product.
For the Nihilists the past/nature is a multifarious “evil”, directed towards a singular future.
Hellenic cosmopolitanism was polyglotic, multiplicity of expressions rooted in a shared identity.
When Judaism came into contact with Hellenism the birth of Christianity inverted the expression of cosmopolitanism turning it into a Monistic idea(l) rooted in a multiplicity, polyglotic, identity.

For the Pagans identity was found in the past, and self (ego) was its product, its presence.
For the Nihilists the past/nature is a multifarious “evil”, directed towards a singular future. Identity, for the Modern is “coming”, a immanent event for which he must work by stripping himself nude of all past/nature to reinvent himself as something new.

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For the ancient-Greeks that world [kosmos] was a jewel, and they the appreciating mind.
Living on the shores of a sea-basin populated by different peoples, with different cultures, turned them into harvesters of idea(l)s.
These they assimilated into their shared heritage, their identity which was in their common past/nature, turning them resistant to dilution.
The Greeks never lost their sense of self, and never confused barbarian for Greek.
Modernity offers an inverted Cosmopolitanism, as one would expect from the culmination of the nihilistic meme.
Its identifier is always beyond, immanent, in the future, and it can take the form of an absolute, a Utopia/Paradise. The past is the multifarious converging upon a singularity, a monad: God, Idea(l), Humanity.

The Greeks produced a multiplicity of ideas, based on their shared past/nature, harvesting, assimilating alien elements; absorbing them in their common heritage.
The Jews were spiritual elitists, a closed cult of “chosen” by God, and when they were affected by Hellenism the Christian outcome became a reflection of Judaism, inverting Hellenism into Nihilism.
The Christian/Islamic spiritual Cosmopolitanism began with multiplicity of sinners, of the “fallen” funneled towards a singular salvation, a one path.
Marxism, Humanism, by eliminating the God element had to replace it with an alternate mono-Idea(l).
The numerical value of One, became the perfect mathematical replacement of God, where the anthropic representation was lost in abstraction. The mathematical value of one, was accompanied by its Satanic opposite, the Nil, and geometrically it was converted to the point that could be connected with lines to produce shapes of orientation.
The Marxists, being the intervening stage towards this mathematical point in space/time, had found the concept of Human to be its perfect replacement for the God who was overcome.
Human as an abstraction of the species type, the reproductive type. The abstraction, stripped of its past/nature, was expressed in the concept of Party/State, and sin became work, converting the evil world into a Paradise on Earth, a coming Utopia.  
“Workers of the world Unite!!!” expressed the Christian idea(l) of sinners finding salvation in God, in whom their sins, their busy hands, were put to productive work.  
Christians found salvation in Jesus; Communists found it in Marx.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Tue Jul 07, 2015 7:59 am

Inversion is the symptom of Nihilism; it is the calling-card of Modernity.
A world inverted is a world annulled.
The absence of universal meaning, purpose, telos, and morality is translated, in Nihilistic mindsets, into a negative, when it is the very definition of positive, in that it makes life possible.
The Nihilist inverts identity placing it ahead, rather than behind, as a coming, a future, rather than a determining past/nature.
The Nihilist inverts the process from gene to meme, converting it to meme to gene.
The Nihilist inverts the timeline, beginning with the word, rather than the action described, represented by words; symbols of reality become reality of symbols.
The Nihilist inverts reality, converting it into subjective, rather than objective interested, understood, engaged with subjectively.
The Nihilist inverts interventions, claiming he is intervening to return the world to how it is, which, for him, means how it “ought to be”. He deludes himself that sexual roles, race, organs were manufactured by human systems, when it is he who is trying to erase the function so as to replace it with utility, with social conventions, with cultural eugenics.
The Nihilist inverts abstractions, absolutes, mental models, placing them ahead, outside, immanent, when it is he who is producing them in relation to the outside, ahead, immanent, as a (re)action to it.
The Nihilist inverts the relationship of noumenon with phenomenon. Instead of the noumenon representing the phenomenon, the idea(l) imposing itself upon the real, the opposite is so, for him.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Fri Jul 10, 2015 9:39 pm

OnLine Etymology Dictionary wrote:
moral (adj.) Look up moral at Dictionary.com
mid-14c., "pertaining to character or temperament" (good or bad), from Old French moral (14c.) and directly from Latin moralis "proper behavior of a person in society," literally "pertaining to manners," coined by Cicero ("De Fato," II.i) to translate Greek ethikos (see ethics) from Latin mos (genitive moris) "one's disposition," in plural, "mores, customs, manners, morals," of uncertain origin. Perhaps sharing a PIE root with English mood (n.1).

Morals/Ethos pertain to a social behaviour.
A naturally selected behaviour facilitating social cooperative unities.

These, in time, become codified, spiritualized, translated into a social code of conduct, enforced by threat/promise, first from a hypothetical "superior authority" and then by the power of the group - peer pressure.
These behaviours, if proven to facilitate group cohesion, resulting in group synergy, become ritualized.
The individual born within the group, inculcated with the group's morals, and the relating ideals/values, perform the behaviour in a ritualistic manner, in time becoming automatic.
Along with the ritualized behaviours words also acquire a magical aura. They are repeated, in relation to a shared concept, which few fully comprehend but all consider self-evident.
The behaviour and the words connected to the ritual are repeated so often, from birth, that they become part of the social dynamic within the group; all members immediately recognize someone belonging to their culture by the performance of these rituals, and the words spoken in association with them.
A ritual is part of a shared tradition. A tradition repeated consistently and consecutively automatically, without thought, without comprehension.  

An example of ritualized behaviour and the words associated with it is sex, and sexual relationships within the group.

Rituals are meant to direct an organism's energies, particularly its libidinal energies, towards "appropriate" outcomes.
The individual need not understand the words repeated, as part of he ritual's chant, nor understand the symbolism of the actions it is automatically performing, just as long as it repeats it loyally, consistently and as close to how it has been trained to perform them as possible.
Withing Nihilistic memes, and the subsequent "civilization/culture, traditions, morals" that it produces, the behaviours are in contradiction to evolved behaviours, forcing a psychic schism, resulting in a form of social neurosis ([You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], and the private/public divide of personae and character.
Behaviours are repeated, as one performs a dance, moving the body in sometimes unnatural ways...but whereas in a dance the act is supposed to display self-control, grace, a power, when ti becomes habitual the action is meant to stifle the body's natural inclinations, flushing away the nervous energy this produces, towards innocuous directions, or forcing the individual to repress it within self, resulting in a perpetual state of stress.
Words, chants, ritualized within Nihilistic systems, or human groups using Nihilism as a means of internal, control, are repeated in their detached form reality form, without any understanding of them, or by referring them to the mind of another, essentially connecting the words being used back to a collective Subjectivity. A community of self-referential minds using words disconnected from anything experienced, or anything real, outside human inter-subjective "realities".
This direct the behaviour to the other, and not to nature which has originally produced it.
The individual is forced to compare his behaviour, his performance, to that of another, as a dancer would compare his dancing to that of another who is dancing the same dance.
The words, also connecting to other minds - noumneon to noumenon, the phenomenon excluded - are also continuously juxtaposed with the official definition, which may not refer to anything outside this inter-subjective community.
Political conflict, in this situation becomes a competition over the word's best definition, compared to the utility, or the the word's best application. In this context "values" become the measure of the behaviour/word rituals social utility.
It's utility outside the community space, the Polis boundary, is of secondary important, if the group's well-being is ensured in relation to phenomenon that contradict the inter-subjective reality's internal alternate "reality".

Those who break the ritual, disturbing its performance, are accused of evil...blasphemy.  


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Rights
Rights are another human noetic construct with no reference outside the human minds participating in the inter-subjective rituals.
It's peak enforces a limit where the "rights of another" begin.
The enforcing of these limits is performed by the State, and not the individual, as in nature, who imposes his Will as the limit of the other's Will.
Within Modern, inter-subjective, Nihilistic, "realities", the Communal Idea(l) of Humanity, replacing the authority of God, imposes and enforces this limit, forcing each individual to come up with creative ways to go beyond them.  

The ritualization of behaviour and the words used in their performance, as well as the "rights" imposed in regards to individuality are most evident when it comes to the most primal of all human behaviours, sexuality.
The sexual dance of seduction is performed in multiple creative ways, all of which are forced to remain true to specific, community, moves/steps/vocalizations.

Nihilistic detachment is also most evident with sex, and sexual behaviour, because intercourse, among mammals, can be witnessed in it many forms outside of human traditions and standards.
The function of sex is only denied by the most stringent nihilists, and the most indoctrinated by modernity, minds, therefore its evolution within social mammals to serve an additional function can also be appreciated more clearly.
Among social mammals, but also other [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], the sexual/seduction game has also evolved some rudimentary ritualized behaviours and vocalizations, but only man has evolved the capacity to contradict this original genetic function using ritualized behaviour and words.
The size and sophistication of human social structures enable behaviours and the words associated with them, to detach from the world they evolved within, acquiring an "independence" from nature/past; social/psychological introversion.
The behaviour may have no relationship, no relation, to anything outside human inter-subjective structures, but may retain some vague connection to its original, natural function.

As an example...the relationship of value judgments having been disconnected from their natural survival function, are reconnected to inter-subjective relationships, describing no more than personal taste, and/or preference.
Similarly the word "gender", as in gender roles, having been detached from its original reference to sexual roles, as in reproductive functions, are now reattached to human noetic constructs, making the word "gender" nothing more but a social construct inhibiting individual tastes/preferences.

Traditions connecting man to his nature/past are converted to superficial performances of individual tastes/preferences, usually performed by individuals in a socially produced and maintained state of neurosis.

To have "rights" it to perform the required sacrifices, to the proper "authority", to appease the God/State, which will, in turn, proffer upon the individual its Divine graces.
Taxes are a form of sacrificial performance, ritualized behaviour, towards the God-Head – an offering to the institutionalized deity what is "rightfully" its own, so as to protect the individual from the “evil" beyond the individual’s understanding, or ability to deal with.
To appease the God-Head is to acquire its power, to channel its magic, therefore the homosexual by remaining a good citizen, buys, from the State, the “right” to do as he pleases, if he does not disturb the other’s right to do the same.
Each individual’s “rights”, are an intimate relationship between him/her and the God-Head, reaffirmed daily, yearly, with a sacrificial offering; a ritualized performance.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Sat Jul 11, 2015 8:58 pm

Negating the positive, to maintain the nullification of the world:
The fool believes that if he kills the one who tells him he will die, that he will, somehow, live forever.
He convinces himself that it was merely that single man's opinion, and nothing more, and that by eliminating that man he has eliminated the insights he offered, despite the costs and risks to himself.

And so it was with Nihilism, first baptized in the land of Orthodox dis-ease, shifting to Marxist levelling.
The spirit of a people that would be seduced by both these viruses, declared the world void of meaning, purpose, morality a nil, when they, and their noble ancestors were the product of this absence awaiting to be given shape and form.

From then on the world, described as such, became the "nil", and the world of words, idea(l)s that filled it with human contraption the "one" to be fought over, and to be defined.

Nihilistic bipolarity was born of this positive/negative duality.

But the world knows of no such absolute poles.
In every (inter)action the patterns are pulling and pulling to varying degrees, establishing ephemeral unities which are never absolutely stable, not complete, but are being stresses externally, by other patterns and non-pattern (inter)actions but also by internal contradiction to its imperfect harmony.

Consider a drop of oil in a stream.
The congruence is the product of their similarities, their pattern harmonies, but the flows are not completely in tune. the oil, due to its pattern, also resist the water's flow, as it is swept away in the congruence, along the paths-of-least-resistance.
To make the discrepancy more vivid, consider a twig floating upon a water stream down a slope, or by the street-side toward the sewer.
Both twig and water, though different element, different patterns, are in relative congruence, related to the concrete, or the rocks and soil of the hill.
The sum of their mass flows along the path-of-least resistance, and yet twig does not strive to remain floating on the stream, nor does stream care for the twigs participation in its flow.
Their "positive" relating is only in relation to the other patterns, while, simultaneously they also have a "negative" relationship with each other; the twig resisting the flow of water, and the water pushing upon the twig's resistance, neither fully belonging to this twig/water congruence.

And so it is with biological processes.
Although, in time, natural selection have filtered out what is most resistant to the aggregate congruence of flow we call organism, the elements, the particular patterns participating in this congruence, still remain out-of-tune with each other.
As the organism resists patterns external to its aggregate congruence it struggles to deal with internal incongruities.

Life is agon, and all is ordering, not ordered.  
Becoming, not Being.
Towards the Idea(l), the object/objective, never attaining it.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Mon Jul 13, 2015 2:08 pm

To make the above more specific....in every relating, in every (inter)action between patterns and/or aggregate patterns of relative, not absolute, congruence, there is, entailed in their "harmony" a contradiction.

The atom is a study in balance between pushing and pulling, the congruence is partial, and if it were not sufficient the electron, the proton, the neutron, would not (inter)act in the manner that they do.
All patterns, given a name, by humans, (inter)act as only their patterns can (inter)act....not requiring a grand plan, a telos, a motive.
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If their patterns harmonize, find a congruence of fluidity, as this has been determined by the patterns as they are, then they fall into place, as it were....and they not completely in harmony.
There is no will to remain as one, as some have claimed, inserting the God particle as the fabric....now called universal order.
Electron is flowing along-the-path-of-least-resistance, pulling and pushing, in relating to the other pattern flowing along its own path-of-least-resistance; the two, relating as a flow with its own path-of-least-resistance, as this is determined by their combined patterns, in relation to patterns excluded form their relationship.
This partnership, this momentary congruence, is not intentional. It has no motive - it does not care if it remains intact or not.
There is no direction, no will, no self, on this level of congruity.

Only no the level of life, of directed congruence, can we speak of Will, of a motive to remain intact, as one....and still this congruence, even on that level is not in complete, absolute, harmony.
The contradiction in living organisms, expressed as psychology, as the death and life wish, or as mutations that contradict the existence of itself, are a product of this incomplete congruence.
The balance can be tilted by external factors and what was in congruence, remaining stable for millions of years, becoming unstable, the pushing the disharmony, in relation to what is not part of its congruence, reaching a point where the unity breaks.

This is true for all relationships. We love our mate, our child, our friend, and at the same time a part of us hate him/her.
We enjoy an event and at the same time we are bored with it.
We want life, and we abhor it - resentiment, related to Nietzsche's ubermench.
We are strong and weak, simultaneously - our strength a measure of our weakness in relation to otherness.
We are knowing and ignorant simultaneously, our knowledge not reaching the level of understanding or, when shallow, soon obsolete and requiring a change, a reaffirmation.    
We are healthy and at the same time ill, mutations present, awaiting a trigger to set them loose towards a path of destruction.

Every cell in our body is both a part of a organization, an organism, and, at the same time, separate from it - both one and not one....as the oneness is always a noetic construct and never absolute.

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Symbols, like numbers/words, are human representations of pattern in relation to the organism, the human observer's aggregate pattern.
The (+)(-) indicating spin, relating to the dominant spin of the observer's own atoms, experienced as psyche, as intuition, as emotion, sensation on a sub-conscious level, at first, and then, as in man, raised to the level of consciousness, of lucidity, where categories are formed.
The designations of value are not absolutes, but symbols of relationship, of relation, indicating dominance.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Mon Jul 13, 2015 5:56 pm

Nihilist/Modern Rule:
If you offer a well-crafted, carefully thought out, full of arguments and examples position all the Nihilist has to do is offer his/her opinion.
Equality dictates that all subjective opinions are equally valid, and so his/her declarations, based no emotion and noumenon detached from phenomena (reality) are just as worthy of respect and consideration as everything else.

An imbecile's dream.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Mon Jul 13, 2015 6:01 pm

Nihilist/Modern Rule:
No matter how smart you are, how well you argue your positions, how meticulously you've tried to cover all the angles, the modern imbecile can simply call you names, imply shit about you, mostly sexual shit, and then smirk in a self-gratifying way.....like when (s)he finishes masturbating, and is taken by the feeling of gratification, and before the realization that nobody is there to share it will dawn upon him/her.

Next step:
Find master's at bating to share in the experience, each from his own private cubicle.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Mon Jul 13, 2015 6:05 pm

Nihilist/Modern Rule:
Nothing brings two cynics together than a cold-shower.
The warmth of their internal heat will help them bond, against the cold, harsh world.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Mon Jul 13, 2015 6:20 pm

Nihilist/Modern Rule:
No matter how degenerate, retarded, clueless, you are, how much your life and your choices expose a feeble mind, if you can jazz it up, make a joke, charm the females, with boyish naivete, and offer hope to the men-children who will want to be just like you, helping them escape the reality of their daily, hum-drum, routines, of quiet destitution, then you are fabulous.

The secret?
Seduction.
Flirting, innuendo, a suave confidence, and the chicks, dicks, and dim-wits, are swept away.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Mon Jul 13, 2015 6:28 pm

Nihilist/Modern Rule:
If it feels "good" it is "good", and "good" can be adjusted temporally...sometimes pushed forwards into the future, sometimes allowed to be present in the immediate.

No matter how obtuse and simple you are, you can feel, and feelings/emotions are your fast-track to genius.
The body knows what the mind denies.
Surrendering to the innate, spontaneity, of automatic (re)actions, requires zero forethought and analysis.
Perfect for the pseudo-intellectual git, with a large vocabulary, wanting to excuse his/her appetites by turning them divine.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Mon Jul 13, 2015 6:35 pm

Nihilist/Modern Rule:
All is One is not all is God.
Progress demands a change in symbols, marketing, in packaging and labels.
All old Nihilistic positions must be Modernized, brought up to speed, made to feel new, unique, trendy.
New minds, brought up in new circumstances, need new words, new symbols, new metaphors, associated with that same-old stale and ancient decay - but, still, effective.
All must be useful, applicable, pragmatic within the shared artificiality.

Do not teach history, so as to not connect the current Modern with an earlier "modern" variant.
The Nihilists wants to feel as if (s)he is making progress, advancing, growing, even when he is standing still or slipping back, regressing.
The Nihilists want to feel Modern, up-to-date, the latest thing, up-gradable, current, cutting-edge.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Mon Jul 13, 2015 6:43 pm

Nihilist/Modern Rule:
Credentials, credentials, credentials.
no mater how stupid you are, how clueless you might be, if you refer and defer to the commonly acceptable authorities, or if you've been sanctioned by the appropriate institutions, you will merit respect and consideration. If not, even if you make valid points, you will be dismissed, piecemeal, as another quack.

With a judgment left to atrophy, the modern needs an external source of validation to evaluate what is in front of him/her.
As always, quantities usurp qualities, and so the quantity of mass appreciation is enough for a final decisive decree.
As a consequence, no matter how simple you may be, if you gain popularity, you are raised to the post of "human value".
Again, seduction is the key...the sexual component.
Flatter offer hope, be "positive", happy, be all-inclusive, soothing, charming, funny, releasing what bottled up stress exists, and you will be worshipped.

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