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PostSubject: Re: Satyrnalium Satyrnalium - Page 8 EmptySat Oct 01, 2016 8:08 pm

Hedonism can be so painful, when you talk about it, in theory, and you do not practice it.
But, even when you practice it, it can hurt, if you make it an end, and not see it as what it is....a momentary release from need/suffering, used as a motivator for base manimals who need not know what they do or why, but only feel it as being oh so goood.

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Like I've said before, when the mind detaches from reality, and the word is left in limbo, to then be reattached back to the mind, where does it attach first and most easily?
Feelings.

The delusional Nihilist settles for a loop.
A loop makes him feel powerful because his will is in control of both sides of the process.
Idea(l), in the brain (abstraction, noumenon) connecting, via symbol/word, back to mind, but this time to a feeling, a sensation, an emotion, or, in some sophisticated cases to another abstraction/noumenon.

What is excluded?
World....phenomena, the apparent, the present. All that is out of the will's control, and a source of anxiety.
Nihilism leads to solipsism, only inter-subjectivity, a collective of subjective minds, use each other to pretend they are engaging reality, when they are escaping into one another.
This is why Moderns need quantities, and when they say "world' they mean "humanity."

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Short list of Nihilistic, Modern, oh who are we kiddin' inanity's ways of "thinking".


Crazy Creative Rules

1) If reality gets in the way, ignore it, then change it using your attitude
Changing "your reality" will do, when all you are interested in is human validation

2) Make sensational, unbelievable claims, full of optimism, and then repeat them until someone bites
Follow through with flattery, increasing dependence - positive affirmation approach
Increase addiction, showing consistent care, in relation to a world that does not give a shit

3) Congratulate yourself because nobody else will
Say what others will never think about you

4) Feed the basest emotions with soothing treats, appeal to the lowest-common-denominator, and then wait
Lowest denominator is fear...manipulate it, comfort it, make it feel fearless
Masses will come

5) Declare yourself what you wish to be seen as - seed your own "greatness", claim your own "victroy"
Overcoming doubt by using impressions

6) Promise extraordinary goals (related to 2) to exploit extraordinary feebleness - gather the poor, the desperate, the ill, the weak, the meek, the stupid, the ignorant
Christian quantity over quality

7) Use confusion to your advantage
Shame and obfuscation - imply the mystical when reason fails, use reason when mysticism fails 
Imply something secret, something big, but never show it - or claim nobody sees it who is not worthy


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Being dominated by meme, approaching the genetic from the cultural, moral, standpoint, reduces human psychology to a cultural event, an ideal, an official narrative.

One can only approach the meme from the gene, seeing an inherited disposition unfold and become a culture, a school of thought, a moral rule.

From genes come memes.
The reverse refers all human nature to historical events, to socioeconomic systems.
Such minds can only make sense of others using some historical figurehead, some popular spirituality, some philosophical text written at a point in time - history.

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Prolonged need softens resolve.
Ego fatigues, reason dulls.
Given enough time the mind will believe anything, will convince itself of just about anything it desires.

Ego = muscle
Needs = suffering
Existence = mass
Reason = technique/talent

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Other Motive
If there's another reason to play the victim card, other than garnering sympathy in the form of pity, it is to avoid having to hurt another, more than you have to, and to evade the inevitability of forced justifications.
It's to ease transition, with minimal discomfort; it being absorbed entirely by you, and you get that extra buzz of feeling sorry for yourself, which does not last long, and is really useless energy.
An implosion left by an absence, momentarily deflating the ego.
Strong ego bounces back quickly, so there's no harm done to the instigator/victim.

It's utility is really in triggering what you sense the other wishes, but cannot follow through with.
Stimulating the process, mostly with rage, you quicken it, reducing what resistance is present, like doubt, still holding back.
Victimization is temporary, as you absorb the other's anger adding it to your own, and turn it inward, so the emotional blast does not extend outward.
The other feels relieved, anger changing to pity, after a brief period of sadness, which your abortion/implosion feeds into.
You act as the detonator and the chamber encompassing the blast zone.
Effective when time is of the essence.
It's quick, relatively harmless to other, and if you are aware and in control, minimally damaging to you.

A variant of the "It's not you, it's me" method, only sadness is converted to anger, and then pity directed outward.
In this way, anger resolves the issue in one quick event, and the other, who wishes to be released but does not know how, or procrastinates prolonging the inevitable, has his/her wishes satisfied.
The other is momentarily hurt, but is quickly relieved, because it was a movement towards he or she could not follow through with - some emotional, moral factor suppressing what was desired: release from an unwanted relationship, or cutting one's losses when the rewards are no longer valued.
Ego is never threatened, on either side, so recovery is fast.

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When trying to know and to understand world, what does it matter what words you use, what you ignore, what you reject, and what you accentuate?

What does it matter to world, what you like and dislike, how you try to spin it to your advantage, what word-games you play, how desperately you hide?

Sure, if you are lucky enough to be born into a protective system, and to be privileged within this sheltering system, you might postpone the consequences of your delusions, but can you escape them?
Call yourself "philosopher, or "god" or, "genius", who are you fooling but yourself and those desperate enough to swallow anything to fill that inner void?

Still, the world does not care.

Why do healthy people show interest in philosophers and philosophy?
When what is stated corresponds to what is experienced, making ti useful, applicable, not theory, possibility, emotional fix.
They may dabble ni abstract thinking and esoteric spirituality, but these have to connect to the pragmatic, or else of what use are they other than to do the opposite of engaging world on its terms, and not on the terms of a spoiled brat, or on the faithful terms of a lost soul looking for itself in so many faces, so many charlatans.






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What does the mask matter to eyes that can see through them, to the essence, remaining true to its past?

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Like all other words, "friend" means something different coming out of the mouth of Nihilists, or miserly ideals....friend as the front-man, the one who enters the minefield first, the scout...friend as announcer, the harbinger, the sacrificial lamb, the wayward son, an excuse to go after...friend as sidekick, and mule, friend as accentuating inferior, like the ugly girl the pretty one hangs around....friend to pick up the tab, for a smile and a joke...friend as networking go-between.



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Fatherless whiggers surrender to pleasure, and the primal noise, spilling, unrequited from within.
Lost, victims of degeneration; lost sheep for all to weep, calling out for the shepherd's shoulder - blade sheathed.
How many whiggers have been lost to the storm of African hyper-masculinity, wrapping their souls in words, spilling out their pain with no refrain?

How many waiting misers, connivers, rush to stop the cries, hamburger and fries.
No tomatoes please.
Supersize it.

"Healthy" dose of toxic fat, on meting bones.
Filling in the emptiness with song.
Promising it all, like a true friend.

Bridges over chasms of despair, as if they truly care, for more than their own supper.
For he who truly loves you makes you feel good, it's understood.
Raises you up high, and does not drop you.
Flying on his hands, the world seems closer than the sky.  

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PostSubject: Re: Satyrnalium Satyrnalium - Page 8 EmptyMon Oct 03, 2016 7:40 am

when a child has a temper tantrum it is usually when it has been denied something it considered its right to have, having experienced a time of pampering, the self-evident is what it has become accustomed to.
When this habituation is broken, the stress overwhelms a mind that has taken things for granted, and now cannot figure out why it is denied them, or how to deal with whatever intervened.


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PostSubject: Re: Satyrnalium Satyrnalium - Page 8 EmptyMon Oct 03, 2016 9:38 am

Nervous system is the organ evolved to store and direct energies produced by (inter)activity.
Either by assimilating, or by conflicting, producing friction, energies are dealt with.


Energies are patterned (order) or non-patterned (random) - oscillating/vibrating to a rhythm or lacking a rhythm (noise).

Only order can be processed and then only if it is below the limit the nervous system can deal with - if it rises above the excess is damaging, it leads to trauma, or to the need to expunge it quickly before it causes damage.

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Most Moderns associate imprinting with "love", thinking of how a baby imprints on the mother's face, or newborn duckling imprint on the first life forms present.
This si the most comforting form of it.


But imprinting is about all the emotions.
emotion is simply the vehicle through which the organism connects its immature, ignorant noumenon, to the first phenomenon it perceives - that it immediately recognizes organic from inorganic or can only imprint with organisms closest to its own genetic past, is part of the beauty of life.

Other emotions can also produce imprinting.
For example, a rape victim will see the face of his abuser in every experience with agression that follows.
Some will associate an entire sex, or race, with the traumatic event.

In this way young organisms learn to perceive patterns and associate them with experiences.
When still immature fox cubs have to learn to fear, or what to fear, or else they will die.
Innate anxiety is nurtured or allowed to atrophy.
A baby cries at a loud sound, and has to be habituated to it, as not meaning danger every time.

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Loss of control occurs when the mind has failed to foresee an event.
It's actions have collateral effects, which it cannot predict.

If reactions to its actions are mostly 'positive' it becomes arrogant, cocky.
Then, when the cost hit hard, its fear overflows into anger - a defensive mechanism.
It releases stress in fight/flight mode, going 'berserk", flailing and thrusting without focus, without control.
It's own failure is blamed on other.

If it survives the unforeseen, and it calms, then it may try to justify its loss of control, and why it failed to foresee.
Its humbling has to be returned to arrogance.
It "saves face" for all that saw its outbreak, its vulnerability.
It may try to convince itself, and others, that it was planned.


Loss of control, like 'hissy fits' and 'temper tantrums' are always evidence of a weakness.

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PostSubject: Re: Satyrnalium Satyrnalium - Page 8 EmptyMon Oct 03, 2016 5:45 pm

Seismologists study tectonic plate friction, we call earthquakes.

Tectonic plates move at a certain speed.
Tensions build up, over specific periods of time.
They have a pattern, which is not precise, due to the liquidity of magma, but they can be predicted and given a time and place.


To cause an earthquake, a distressing of tectonic plates, one intervenes with a massive explosion.
Instead of waiting for energies to build up, and be released, determined by the masses of the plates involved you can cause a lower grade earthquake.


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PostSubject: Re: Satyrnalium Satyrnalium - Page 8 EmptyMon Oct 03, 2016 6:00 pm

A fighter cannot predict every form of attack, but he can predict every direction, and train himself in preparation.
Is this paranoia?

One presupposes an attack from a particular direction and trains for particular forms, using past experiences, and also prepares for forms one cannot foresee by using personal memory or that of other fighters.
Because the exact force and direction cannot be predicted the fighter trains in fluidity, sweeping movements, dance-flexibility - waves rather than particles.
Waves cover larger expanses of space/time probability.
More skilled fighters depend on hand-eye coordination for a more precise parry and thrust.
Waves are shorter, more controlled, speed trying to outmaneuver the opponents own sweeping defences and evasive maneuvers.

Fighters unsure of their training and talents, will use subterfuge.
Throwing things to unbalance the opponent, dust, smoke screens, yells, trickery like feigning injury, using another as a block, using a shield - larger the shield more insecure the fighter.

In verbal warfare as in this War like No Other a favourite verbal shield are words like "hater", "racist", 'sexist", "Nazi".
Adopted phrases to unbalance the opponent when you can no longer trust your own skills.

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A man does not have a past, he IS his past.
Genetic past, inherited, memetic past, inherited, thrown into, and experienced past - gene/meme (inter)acting.

He exposes this past with actions.
Words are his intents, or his pretenses - his way of expressing what he knows and understands of his own past.
A desire to pronounce them or to hide them.
Actions are honest because they are manifestations of the individual (inter)acting within world, as presence.
Words expose his foresight, his motives, his intended direction, his goal.
If the two contradict then trust actions, and analyze the words.
Do the words hide intent, or do they expose inner turmoil when the intent has not been realized?



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It is true that a fox, unable to reach the grapes she craves will declare them inedible, but it is also true that a few rare foxes having tasted grapes, either because they did reach them or by sampling the ones that ripened and fell down, no longer desire to taste grapes, having no taste for them, unless they drop into their mouth - not wanting to put any effort in eating more grapes.

To the majority of foxes this will appear as an excuse, no different than the ones they use, but in evolution populations, belonging to the same species, sometimes gradually drift, altering their tastes, making cost/benefit different.
To the common fox this would seem absurd, another fox-ploy.
All the foxes, they know, love grapes.
How could a fox not like grapes and value them equally as any other?

But do they know all foxes?

What if the common foxes want all to be like the foxes they are, the foxes they know are are sued to?
What if they impose their taste for grapes as a natural consequence of being born a fox?

I'm not saying foxes do not like eating grapes, I'm saying do all of them like grapes so much as to jump at them until they have some, or leave making excuses, or do some foxes have different palate, only willing to spend the minimum of time and expend the minimum of energy for acquiring gapes, because they have a greater hunger for flesh?

Cost/Benefit, is balanced by degree of need.
One mind values one thing more than another, because of organ hierarchies, or psychology.
The amount of cost to be risked determined by the degree of benefit expected, measured by need/suffering.

If the fox is hungry her earlier indifference towards grapes is altered.
If the fox is not hungry, need is reduced, her desire for grapes alters.


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Extrovert = cultivates expectations in others, to motivate self, otherwise he cannot perform.
He needs an audience.
Expectations may also be cultivate to imply a performance that never materializes.

Introvert = is deterred by expectations, the pressure to perform in relation to the audience's standards inhibiting his focus.
He will cultivate ow expectations, because all are being judged.

Consciousness is a constant discrimination and evaluation of otherness, beginning with automatic sensual interpretation.


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A male thing

A warrior trains, repeating the same movements, until they become second-nature to him.
He, often, trains using other warriors, in a friendly mock battle, preparing for real thing.
If a technique has worked, in the past, it becomes part of his style.
He uses it against every opponent, having been given no reason to change it - natural selection.

The desire to dominant, whether on the battle field or on the sporting field or on the noetic fields of intellectual conflict, differs for men, sexual specialization establishing a slightly different motive, and a different range of traits to attain it.
A female's desire to attain harmony, stability and then be done with conflict, is not the male's desire to test himself, to prove himself, constantly, repeatedly.

Once sexuality is not a factor indifference towards the others performance, or judgments refocus the motive towards a different goal, beyond the personal.



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Shift in Perspective

In the wild man studied his environment.
He categorized, experienced, using memory to predict behaviour, or probabilities, he trained in the use of tools, and weapons, to hunt and to defend himself against threats.
In the wild species was the lowest-common-denominator, in a world full of variety of threats, and challenges.
In relation to others humans, a sexual designation, distinguished those who he could relate to and cooperate with.
Then it became a matter of establishing and defending a territory from others of the same species.

But nature has been paved over, pushed to the periphery, fenced into controlled, monitored, protective zones.
A paradigm shift - from genetic to memetic.
Now man studies his environment, and it is full of manmade artifices and humanity.
He studies sub-categories within the human species, finding his kind, among them.
He trains, educates himself, in techniques and technologies, to forage, and to earn resources.
He trains to recognize types of humans, the lowest-common-denominator adjusted to his self-knowledge - his self-consciousness - psychology
He distinguishes those of his own kind, from among those who look like him, but are not.
He studies human types as once he studies different species in the wild - categorizing according to behavior, to ideals, and principles - memes.

Tools have changed, weapons are restricted and have become noetic, which are now being dulled, regulated - political-correctness.

Reproductive categories of species have been changed to memetic reproduction - probability of ideological compatibility.

This is most true for Nihilists, or Moderns, who live in a absolute noetic world - a theoretical, ideological sphere.
For them nature, world, outside mamade artifices, are sources of inspiration - they forage, selectively, to fabricate new artifices.
For Nihilists "their kind" is now exclusively about ideals, shared principles, connections between subjective realities - an extension of Abrahamic dis-ease, where all is converted to the abstract, the noumenon, seeking to become phenomenon: inversion of process.
Not gene to meme, but meme to gene.

Their categories can become so esoteric, so abstract, so ambiguous, so emotionally based, that to engage them in their own paradigm would require you to think like them.
With no exoteric, real world, to measure and evaluate, conflict with such creatures becomes elusive.
A word-game of cat and mouse.
You cannot corner an abstraction, particularly when ti has no relation to the real, no contact with anything experienced.
They can only be trapped when they must exit their shared subjectivity, and deal with an objective world they cannot remain aloof to, or, in the final bid to convert their noetic artifices into phenomena, they plant their abstractions in the earth.
Like herbivores forced by thirst to visit a waterhole, it is at that moment they are vulnerable to a world they can escape in the jungles of their words.



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No Absolutes

Nothing is perfect.
Not being, not awareness, not life.
Skepticism is the expression of this imperfection.
Therefore, there can be o absolute intimacy, and no absolute trust.
We cannot trust our own selves, at times, if we do not know ourselves enough - overestimating or underestimating.
We, as becoming, are also constantly changing, making self-knowledge not a final destination, but a trip, a movement towards.
Have we not surprised ourselves?
Have you not disappointed ourselves?
Have we not pitied and hated who we are, discovering it as a contradiction to how we thought we were?

Memory, connecting mind to past/nature is the source of our returning.
The earth we push against to stand, every time we trip and fall, or are knocked down.



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Confidence Building

Building confidence is the foundation of precedent - we call this experience.
Precedent is how we, as an organism (past/nature) related with world,a s it is, informing us of our weakness and strength in relation to other.
Precedent (memory), kept clear of emotional corruption (objective), directs our excess energies.
The organism adjusts, based on memory/experiences, its own focus, behaviour, according to this pool of experiences.

The best way to know another is to fight them...means that when passion is at its highest, thymotic or erotic, adding a caveat...best way to know someone is to fuck them, the mind releases repressed energies, controlled dispositions.
Being stretched to its limit it expunges all energies kept in reserve, and under control.
Another way is to trigger emotional burst, or to inebriate them, allowing instinct to emerge from behind ego.
Like a cocoon, cracking, one can see the contained spirit within.

Ignoring precedent is foolish, if not impossible.
It would be a constant regression to a child-like state.

Precedent produces something similar - habituation.
The known, can be understood, and with understanding it becomes predictable, consistent.
This can be about other, the laient organism, the alien phenomenon, living and non-living, or it can be self, because self is also an unknown.
Exploring the unknown is not a choice.
Man is thrown into world and is confronted by it.
He is in a continuous state of discovery, becoming, whether he places himself within safe, ordered environments or not. He is in a continuous state of agon, war, whether he knows it or not.
Peace is what man calls a state where the aggregate energies in his possession are sufficient to deal with flux - need/suffering fall out of consciousness, or diminishes to the point of being tolerable, allowing the mind to focus elsewhere - towards play, or creativity, expunging excess energies, in another pleasing sensation of release (growth, expansion, creativity, pro-creativity).
Philosophy is an expression of leisure, once organic needs are satiated, and what has been attained is maintained within the constant attrition of flux - interactivity.

Excess is a sign of self-sufficiency - fitness.
Need/Suffering producing surplus.
Experience also increases or decreases self-confidence.
Confidence rises with every success, and diminishes with every failure.
Confidence produces indifference, generosity, when the organism after becoming confident of self, in relation to others, is relatively certain it can replenish whatever energies are lost - it gains confidence in its talents, its probability o attain what it requires.
Confidence can be manufactured within sheltering environments or relationships.
An other's protection, intervention, decreases costs and guarantees benefits, in time convincing the individual of its own abilities to replenish itself.
It forget that another is intervening on its behalf - Modernity.

Proxies are the intervening will of other.
During infancy larger brained species, requiring  period of maturity outside the womb - a limit of organ proportionality preventing an imbalance that would render a female unable to survive with disproportional organs like a womb and hip girth large enough to accommodate a fully developed organism to emerge ready to survive on it sown.
Self-Handicapping is only a strategy for the expendable male, a female may even kill her own offspring if conditions become so harsh as to threaten her and the group she depends upon.

Alpha-male confidence, attractive to females, as opposed to neediness, is founded on experiences, where he can attain what he desires (needs), with minimal effort.
Indifference towards the particular, when one has proven, to self, he can replenish.
This may then result in discrimination - no longer the sub-par will be tolerated.
Desperation is a settling. A hungry man will eat almost anything, a satiated man, or one possessing surplus, is more selective with what he consumes.

A lion confident that he can take down a buffalo, will not bother with a hare, unless the hare jumps into its mouth.

This indifference ought to not be confused with indifference based on organic particularities.
An organism disinterested in flesh eating, is so because of its particular biochemistry.
A fox disinterested in grapes may be so because of its particular organization, and will only show interest if its needs push it to make compromises.



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Because there are no absolute, there can be no absolute love, absolute intimacy, absolute satisfaction, absolute trust, absolute certainty.
All is a matter of degrees.

A mind need not seek certainty, since it is constantly aware.
It simply harvest environment, whether it wants to or not, and must make itself indifferent, blind, to signs, to behaviour, to sensual input, such as sex and race.
Confidence in self makes it indifferent to the particular, unless it rises in threat.
An organism is constantly sampling environment - consciousness is a continuous affirmation, and self is a constant reaffirmation of precedent in relation to what is sensed.


Senses are constantly collecting data, for the mind to process.
Sensual acuity, and mental quality, determines how much data it can sample and process.
Nothing goes unnoticed, unless one is castrated socially, raised in protective, predictable environments, and convinced that all is benevolent, harmless, safe...or it ought to be.
Even so, idealism cannot usurp realism - instincts are still irrepressible, no theory, no ideal can stifle evolved instincts.
A man raised to be a devout christian, thinking adultery is a sin, will not be able to control an erection when a beautiful woman passes by.
He may love his wife, and be convinced he want no other, and his body will betray him.

Body/Mind
Gene/Meme
Real/Ideal
Phenomenon/Noumenon
Objectivity/Subjectivity

Best method is to bring the ideal as close to the real as possible - eliminating all cultural, emotional, naive ideals.
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Expectations
Expectations are projected precedent.
The only advantage of a intelligence, over all other traits, is the ability to foresee.
To foresee using precedent, or patterns, connected into meanings.

Foreseeing what 'might be' based on what 'has been'.
Cost/Benefit evaluated on experience.
In Modern times experience can be second-hand, rather than first-hand, and sampled from non-intimate sources, whose trustworthiness can only be determined via popularity, or anecdotal accounts.
Best way to evaluate trustworthiness is to refer what is claimed to what is experienced - converting second-hand accounts into first-hand references.
When the source of data cannot be judged, using performance, behaviour, then the claims can be tested independent from the source.

Foresight is a projection of abstraction, it is noetic. This makes it the favourite tool of Nihilists, who are contained within the noumenon, fearing to apply their abstractions outside manmade structures, or within an indifferent world.
This is why Moderns are "progressive", dealing with future, the 'the to come' - utopia replacing paradise.
Everything is theoretical, esoteric, meaning it is noumenon.
One must feel its "truth".
It's power remains limited to those who share a semantic code, and a need, expressed as feeling.
Love, is important.
Binding minds into a shared project - a common ideal.
Reality has no effect, but is, as I said, only a source of sampling to manufacture newer, more novel abstractions - more pleasing word combinations.
Reality, nature/past, is kept fenced, on the periphery of a common inter-subjective matrix.
Circle of absolute trust...hiding a flaw. Doubt.
Doubt become Satan, the evil intruding into utopia, the brotherhood of trust, the cult, creating perfection in mind.
Christian Devil.
He who seeds doubt, shaking faith- reaffirming it.


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Insidious Nihilism

Brainwashed over so many centuries, our art repeating the codes, we have now been trained to associate certain words with Christianity, or any form of Nihilism....love, shame, guilt, doubt.
Speak of shame and you are referring to Christianity
Speak of guilt, and you can only understand it as Jewish.
speak of love, speak of doubt...the same
speak of ego and ou must mena it like Freud did.
Speak of autopoiesis and it is Mutarana you refer to.
Speak of morality, and it is Abrahamic, or Buddhist context.
Speak of humanity, and it is secular humanism.
speak of nobility, and it is within Marxist paradigms.
Speak of pleasure and you are a hedonist.
Speak of pain and need/suffering and you are a masochist or a sadist.  
Speak of any word, and out reference point is memetic.

Genes are excluded.
How do these words connect mind to world?
How did they connect noumenon to phenomenon before they were standardized and assimilated into a memetic dogma?
All has become culture, ideology.
All baptized, purified from a nasty, indifferent world.
Reborn clean, innocent.



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Premise
There are no absolutes.
What we call "absolute" can be called "perfect", "whole", "one", "god", "nil", "complete".
Sometimes we imply it when we use words like, "truth", "world", "now", "here", "I", "order", "chaos...etc.
We  imply it when our psychology is dominated by Nihilism and its binary, either/or logic - its dualism.
In other words, when we take literally what is always figurative; when we confuse our own mind's method of simplifying/generalizing the fluctuating, into abstractions (noumenon), referring to phenomena, with the actual phenomenon.
I ascribe this confusion to two reasons....either it is a product of an underdeveloped mind, and consciousness, referring us to the Bicameral Mind, or it is a willful attempt to escape reality, by selectively applying this method, or by totally dismissing phenomena, preferring the malleable noetic.
The last group prefers to imply because it can then claim to not mean what it implies, escaping any cognitive trap that would expose its motive.
Sometimes it used words literally, and at other times they return to being representations, metaphorical - intentional, and unnecessary, mystification.
Motive being other than clarity, or honesty.
It implies the literal with the representational - shifting from reason to emotion, and back and forth, arbitrarily, or as the circumstances demand.
Circumstances in relation to a motive, which can only be other than perceiving world as it is, because if this were the case the world, itself, would impose a restriction upon the words being used - the world would limit what meaning were possible for any combination of symbols, metaphors, etc.

We begin our exploration of world, with what Dawkins called "middle-world" - the phenomenal, perceptible, apparent world of patterns - (inter)acting patterned and non-patterned dynamics, producing congruity based as attraction/repulsion...which is interaction, and existence we define as this interaction.
What exists is Interactive, or activity relating.

We intuit a substratum to this middle-world, level we awaken to, we are "thrown" into.
We will a direction, having been thrown into momentum. we do not choose to live, we only choose how, or what direction our life will take - to a degree.
World is the environment we are thrown into. It offers choices, limiting our own.
Objective limits Subjectivity.

The sub-layer is the metaphysical upon which we place our experience of the physical.
Over the physical we project the intentional, the motive.

Attaining the third-level-of-cognition we already have a three level conceptualization of what we call reality, corresponding to body/nervous system/mind.
Triads are fundamental to human cognition and we see this reflected in mythologies.
The physical (phenomenal)....the underlying metaphysical (observable interactions, manifesting as phenomena) and the projection of the apparent into the "yet to be".

Past - Present - Future, corresponding to theory - reality - motive.
Metaphysics - Physics - Movement

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Top of pyramid {a} = future or ideal (motive, expectation)
Middle part {b} = present/presence or apparent (world, reality)
Bottom part {c} = past or metaphysics (theory, abstract)

Because all is imperfect, we approximate reality (possibilities), to evaluate probabilities.
We judge by evaluating what is more and what is less probable, in relation to what we perceive using our senses.
We are never absolutely certain, but neither are we unable to come to a conclusion of higher/lower.

We begin with {b} and deduce {c}.
Nihilism uses {a} as a reflection of {c}, and selectively integrates {b}.
Pyramid is inverted.
The ideal becomes the basis, and when reality does not fit they change it, using words, to then accommodate a projected outcome.    

If we use a more appropriate image like this...then core is the metaphysical, the esoteric, actual is what appears, the world we experience empirically, and augmented is the extension/projection of the actual based on the core.
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If there is no alignment there is disharmony - mental dissonance.
Moderns deal with this by fragmenting the parts to align them - schizophrenia, compartmentalization, or they blind themselves to parts of the actual, dimissing ti so as to make their cognitive models work.

A objective approach, a honest pragmatic and realistic mind, builds his base from the data he collect from the experienced, dismissing no part of it.
Such a philosopher builds his metaphysics on physics, or the actual world, of perception.
He then establishes his ideals as the intended, the top of his cognitive pyramid, in alignment with the preceding two levels.

{b} aligned, as perfectly as possible, with {c}, determining {a}
If the misalignment is severe corrections must be made, otherwise paradoxes emerge.
Paradoxes as symptoms of cognitive fragmentation, or disharmony.

Material (knowledge, understanding) for building {c} must be gather from environment, world, or {b}, and the ideal, the motive must be based on both, otherwise the structure is unstable.
Actual directs the exploration of core, and both direct the projection of the augmented, as it is called in the image.

In this model the word is what connects the different parts, like the nervous system connects brain, collecting external data, with body, which sends internal data to brain.
The two sources, combined and harmonized, direct the brain to project its goal, its ideal, its objective.

Objective here means both intent and world...the mind intends to reach world.
The journey never attains the destination.

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Children are not happy with the toys they are given.
They want to play with the tools adults use.
But those they find too confusing, or limiting, for them to fantasize and explore, not really interested in building something practical, yet.

Children will take a tool, like a hammer, created for a particular job, a specific function, and they will pretend it is a gun, Thor's hammer, or anything their minds come-up with.
They will take a tool like a blanket, with a simple and specific function, and use it to pretend they have wings, or that they are explorers living in a tent in the wild, or a pasha, with their harem in the desert....
Children love playing with adult tools.

Men-children, immature minds, born and raised within protective, manmade environments, feel the same towards words.
The utility of certain words do not satisfy the imagination of a pampered, protected, spoiled child, wanting to play, wanting to escape the boredom their privileged upbringing has forced upon a mind evolved for more challenges, more danger.

They take a word like "love", a very simple word. A word that can easily be connected to a biological function.
Connected in a way that the experience, of it, makes sense, adding to understanding.
This is not enough for children, with anxieties, and with ennui pushing them towards alternate realities, unusual methods to deal with all that unsatisfied mental energy; children inexperienced with need/suffering, or with real danger, dream of warfare; children born in abundance dream of hunger.

Children, like that, have to take a tool, like the word "love", or any other word that lends itself to their needy fantasy worlds, and use it in a way they prefer - a way that does not agree with the adult application.
They want to fantasize.
They use the tool, the word, as a toy with which they can gratify a still unconscious, unsatisfied, naive, psyche.

Christians used the word "love" as a representation for their dead parent, or a projection of their ideal self - what they most desired to have been born as.

Sheltered, children, or children exposed to trauma before they matured enough to cope, regressed...
They need to make the simplest tool into a magical device.
Reality is too dull for a sheltered child, or too frightening, for one who has been exposed to it too soon, or that has inherited a weak nervous system, a feeble mental constitution.
Reality has to be accentuated, for a dullard, unable to enjoy it sober, or one so bored it has to invent imaginary reality to deal with ennui.  
Reality so indifferent, that the child feels it deserves more.

World is a "problem" for such children, but not because it is challenging, but because it is too harsh, or much too safe, depending on the particular circumstances and motive.
Modern children need to make tools into toys - innovating new ways to play with tools fabricated for specific jobs.
Harmless, soft, plastic, toys. good for any child to play with.
Toys that trigger childish fantasies.
Toys to get away from a drab, adult, restricting world.
Children want to play, forever.


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It takes psychological stamina, and a strong constitution to be a philosopher.
Why have so many gone mad, or committed suicide?
Is it because reality is safe, and easy?
No, it takes a particular kind of mind to be a philosopher; honest, brave, putting his own interest away, wanting only to see the world, and self, as it is.

If philosophy only required intelligence, we would be surrounded by philosophers.

Philosophy is hard, not because of its basic requirements, but because of what it directs itself towards: world.

How many call themselves philosopher when all they are are priest, con-artist, rhetoricians, buyers and sellers, clowns?
How many survived first contact with reality, and did not regress to infancy, or did not go running back to their upbringing, their safety net, back to the same old myths, and comforting lies?

Socrates was dismayed, returning to Athens after a long time away, at war, to find the youngsters he had talked to, shared his ideas with, converted to tyrants and fools.
He realized, too late, that not all minds can take reality.
Brain did not evolve for existential clarity, but to help an organism survive, and if remain a fool and an idiot does this, then it regresses.

Most will selectively use it to discharge their own psychosis, their own emotional reactions to a world that simply does not care, choosing other humans instead, as their sounding-board.
Using other humans as agencies; representations of cosmos.  
Using other humans to avenge themselves, to love themselves, to comfort themselves, to...find themselves.
Philosophy as mirror.    

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When the world troubles us, and we cannot escape it, or find a detail others missed to stand apart, why not contradict it, and find a way to imply uniqueness, while repeating the same old stories using different words.
Have we not learned from recycled modernity, and their repeating "creativity"?
Have we not been taught by those "musicians" who sample, adding a few word-associations to make it "new"?
Have we not began to imitate word jugglers and rhetoricians, who speak with emotionally effective imagery and say nothing at all?

Have we not reverted back to a infantile stage where we copy adults, and enjoy their smiles?

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