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PostSubject: Re: Satyrnalium Wed Sep 20, 2017 9:40 pm

Why need, why suffering?
Life evolves a nervous system to experience existence more.
A plant lacks it, so suffers less.
But higher organisms, or organisms with a more sophisticated nervous system, including a brain, experience more of existence, which means they need more, and they suffer more.

But what is need and suffering as need left unsatisfied for a period of time, dependent on the organism's metabolic rates and its biological requirements and its access to them.

What is need, and what is suffering.

Need is the experience of (inter)activity, which is what existence is.
Continuous (inter)activity produces attrition, depleting an organisms's energies, and damaging the organs, encases in a membrane, called skin, or in an exoskeleton.
Tome as a measure of change is also another way of describing (inter)activity.
An organism is order-ing, and attrition challenge this order-ing.
Therefore an organism needs to heal the damage done to it, by (inter)activity, or the attrition of time, in order to continue being aware of existing.
So, existence has a cost.
If the cost is met easily, we call this well-being, or being happy, strength, health, or comfortable.
If we struggle, we call this weakness, pain, suffering, deterioration etc.

If the energies in our possession are not enough to correct the damage done upon us by the passing of time, by change, by (inter)activity, or if we are unable to correct the accumulating damage, we call this suffering.
So need that cannot be satisfied is experienced as pain, as suffering.

Old age is a gradual decline due to accumulating damage done to our body/mind.


Why is there violence, why killing?
Because life is indifferent to individual life.
Life must be tested, continuously, to keep it healthy, strong.
Because weakness must pass on so as to not contaminate all life.
This is why life replicates itself.
In primitive organisms by splitting into two copies, not exactly the same, never the same, because even during mitosis (inter)activity continues, affecting the two dividing parts differently.

Why heterosexual reproduction?
Because this speeds up the rate of adaptation to changing environments.
mitosis simply makes copies of itself, and relies on mutations caused by (inter)activity, or during the splitting, to evolve...but heterosexuality combines, synthesizes two different organisms, their DNA, in other words two different pasts.
The combination is not necessarily advantageous, the recombination does not mean something better, more fit, is produced, but with continuous combinations the odds of a more fit combination to emerge is multiplied.

Beauty is a signal, a symptom of resistance to environment attrition....more symmetry, and reproductive virility, signaled by an organism's organ proportionality, is attractive because it displays a higher resistance to attrition, to (inter)activity, and to parasites, to environmental threats.
Physical symmetry and proportionality is not the same as mental, or psychological, symmetry and proportionality.
Mental symmetry and proportionality we experience through (inter)action, as charm, humor, control, eloquence, creativity etc = intelligence.

More stress necessitates more resistance to it...ergo it either destroys or corrupts the mind/body, or it produces something more virile, stronger.
Less stress eventually results in atrophying, in degradation - dullness, dim-wittiness, no creativity, no charm, no humour, no symmetry, and no proportionality.
Unlike human systems where wealth is inherited, in nature the organism is tested continuously, and its offspring are not guaranteed anything.
When and if the individual is strong and healthy, its potential to reproduce goes up....but if later it declines and is no longer as virile and healthy it no longer can reproduce.
Life is cruel, I know.


This is basic stuff.





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PostSubject: Re: Satyrnalium Thu Sep 21, 2017 3:01 pm

Need/suffering = absence of absolute.
Flux - (inter)activity, change measured as time; increasing possibilities, expanding space.
Need as the experience of temporal attrition, resulting in loss of energies requiring constant replacement.

Desire/suffering = superfluous libidinal energies.
Successful appropriation of needed energies results in a surplus that if not directed to growth, reproduction, accumulates, producing stress in the organism that must contain them.
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PostSubject: Re: Satyrnalium Sat Sep 23, 2017 11:34 am

The typical degenerate practices duplicity motivated by cowardice.
When faced with a threat, he projects upon it his own deficiencies, his own emotional reactions, and then attacks it.
He cuts the threat into convenient pieces, takes them out of context, and then sues them to accuse the source, without one dealing with the content of the threat.
He attacks the person behind the idea, and if it is reciprocated cries foul, or claims to be the victim of verbal assault.

Unable to respond to the ideas, he attacks himself, projected as other, hoping that by slandering the source, the ideas he exposed him to, will also go away.
Unable to offer an alternative to the threatening ideas, he is content to leave a void, which he hopes will reduce all to his idiocy, his duplicity, his cowardice, so finally his own cowardly position will become the only one left, or just as good as any other.

Other than that it has nothing more to offer, compensating for its incompetence with repetition. A constant reaffirmation of its own convictions, hoping to wear the other down in a world where even imbeciles are to be respected, where even retardation has a right to be taken into consideration.
Wearing the other down is its only hope for self-esteem. A womanly 'victory' using nagging, when the argument is lost, or she cannot compete with a man.

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PostSubject: Re: Satyrnalium Sun Sep 24, 2017 9:09 pm

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Addendum, predator of predators...
The wolf whimpers to make the fox come running, but not because it is in pain.

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PostSubject: Re: Satyrnalium Thu Sep 28, 2017 8:11 am

Laws of Nature are manmade laws describing a repeating, consistent, predictable pattern, in conjunction with others - order, interacting.
M-Theory refers to a synthesis of laws, rules, that can encompass, explain, every phenomenon man has become aware of.
This has, yet, to be accomplished as the various laws man has constructed as describing observable phenomena, do not harmonize but contradict such a absolute synthesis.
Random Energies are the disharmonious component, just as increasing possibility, due to Flux - continuous change.
Laws must keep up with these continuous changes demanding more complex laws to explain their fragmentation.
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...have fragmented from two, and will continue to fragment into eight, sixteen etc.

They were never united in a singularity, for this would have meant non-existence, something assumed by scientists when they look for it in the Big Bang.
Abrahamic nihilism still governs their psyche.
Science seeks what it has assumed exists, and does not seek for what it cannot fathom.
Scientific inquiry begins with a presumption, a theory, which is then validated or contradicted by the world.
As theory it remains 'perfect' if it is self-consistent, as many popular theories are.  All of them having made a presumption that they cannot validate externally, ans so refuse to apply the theory in practice, or to refer, or seek validation externally.
This is the case with Nihilistic presumptive theories. If they also lack integrity they compensate for their cowardice, their refusal to test their theories externally, by seeking like-minded hypocrites to stand in for the external validation.
Natural laws are not eternal, no more than man's understanding is absolute, is complete.
Flux implies that as time passes and space expands, these laws must be adjusted to changing circumstances, to increasing complexity, to increasing randomness/chaos, and to increasing understanding, trying to keep-up, trying to remain in contact with reality.

Natural laws deal with order, in other words with patterns, and not with chaos.
Chaos, defined as random energy, lies outside the purview of law, because law describes order, or it imposes it.
In the case of Nihilism law is imposed, as a mental fabrication the world must adhere to.
The methods used to force nature to abide by these subjective rules vary from nihilistic convention to nihilistic convention.
What they all share is a distaste for a world that remain indifferent and contrary to their hypothetical laws.   

Expansion is occurring at a rate where laws remain valid for huge time/space expanses, relative to human lifespans and human metabolic rates.
To man they seem eternal.
Scientific laws refer to human understanding, referring to phenomena that validate human understanding or rather   human understanding is the perception of patterns within the (inter)activity of patterns.

Nihilism makes these internal, esoteric, so the pattern is referring to its own understanding.
A pattern validated by referring by its inclusion in a larger pattern - a world-view.
This method requires no external phenomenon, but in fact avoids referring to such an uncertainty, as it may contradict the desirable outcome, or the minds self-consistent "understanding".  
The world, beyond the mind, or a collectivity of minds, becomes evil, destructive to human desired self-consistent fabrications.
In this case, one mind validates the other, or a shared understanding that has no external reference.

The world is undesirable, because of randomness, and of its indifference to all human theories concerning it.
It becomes a source of disappointment, contradiction to the established laws, need/suffering.
it therefore prefers esoteric, subjective laws that can be shared and validated by referring to other minds that belong to a collective - a religion, starting as a cult, is such a collectivity of minds that have agreed upon a law that refers to no external phenomena.

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Forces refer to the attraction/repulsion (inter)activity, or how patterned and non-patterned Energies relate, or the degree of their relative harmony.

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PostSubject: Re: Satyrnalium Thu Sep 28, 2017 9:10 am

The nihilist begins with a presumption, redefining words to accord with it, and then refuses to validate it externally, to refer it to phenomena, so as to test its quality.

for example...
he begins by presupposing that gender is a social construct, implying that sexual identity is a subjective construct.
He then refuses to validate it using precedent, empiricism, reality, and how sexual identity emerges, how it functions or dysfunctions and what role it plays in natural election.
He then compensates for this refusal, this inadequacy, failure, by finding like-minded individuals to act as 'external; validations for his esoteric presumption, his theory with no external reference.
Lacking precedent, trying to disconnect from past, from nature as it manifested before man emerged and before man creates memes, cultures, civilization, he substitutes world as the totality of phenomena, including man and his development, his evolution, with humanity as a tautology for world.
World now becomes humanity, or it is conscious, has a motive, is a manmade construct. the world as a reflection of man - man seeing himself everywhere...but not himself, an idealized self.
He surrounds himself with sycophants, or those who need this twist to remain sane, to remain comfortable, to not feel vulnerable within world.
Then he strives to increase his range of self-referential validation, by proselytizing, by converting other humans, in the hope that humanity will become a world in itself.
Having established that world = humanity, the mission becomes one of integrating humanity into a variant invented by him.
What remains outside the definition of 'human' as ideal, will be converted to a version of humanity, as anthropomorphic, pan-psychic.
The world as humanity is humanity as world.
Assimilate humanity into a particular mindset, make them zombies repeating the same theory as if it were self-evident, and you've "changed" the world. This is what the degenerate Nihilist believes.

But the world is threatening, insulting, unflattering, to those he hopes to seduce, or to coerce, or to convince with his delusions, so the theory must detach from world, to make it malleable, but also less indifferent, less uncertain, less contradicting, less resistant to the theory.

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PostSubject: Re: Satyrnalium Fri Sep 29, 2017 3:36 pm

Common sense is the basis from where one begins.
An animal has common sense, since its sense is common, as it is with all organism.
Different sensual acuity, or methods of translating sensual data, does not differentiate the basic method of using sensual data.
Each translation is not equal to any other.
Here is where natural selection takes place.

How accurate the approximation, we call abstraction, is to the phenomenon, itself and how said phenomenon relates to all others, determines the success or failure of the individual organism...resulting in natural selection.

Common sense, as it refers to what is common in the species homo sapient, refers to the shared distinctions, discrimination, perceived and interpreted sensually.
The organism does not have to understand or know the reason for why something appears different form something else, because nature has evolved a simple, automatic process of interpreting divergence.
Only later, in human beings, does one question, and contradict such perceptions.

So, when a human perceives an orange being different from a banana, he does not have to know why or how, or have a chemistry degree to decide....no more than a chimpanzee needs such things.
He does not have to have a Ph.D. to know that a yellow banana means it is ripe and a green one that it is not, nor that a brown bear is different from a brown cow.
This is common sense.
We perceive divergence and not knowing how or why we understand this as indicating a difference in essence.

Common sense becomes "radical' when the brain is infected with self-doubt, or a memetic virus that informs it that what it perceives is not as it naturally interprets it, but hides something that contradicts what it perceives.
The virus exploits a weakens in the mind that wants to dismiss appearances and differences, to accommodate its feeble spirit.
It offers the dis-eases, needy organism, a justification for its desire....and easily convinces it what what it perceives as different is not so, but is the same, ro that all sensual perceptions are equally false.
This theory is welcomed by a desperate, cowardly, mind.
It accepts it with no question, and holds onto it no matter what knowledge is given to it.
It becomes dependent, addicted, to the ideology, that negates what is perceived.
It does not matter what it sees, because it doubts its own senses.
The theory, the ideal, takes precedence.

All that it perceives will be forced into the ideal's premises, or ignored, or denounced.
Top<>Down reasoning.

The idea(l) is like a blanket to warm and cover the world, to make it go away, or to selectively appear, through the matrices of the weave.

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PostSubject: Re: Satyrnalium Sat Sep 30, 2017 1:24 pm

A strange thing about experience, and experiencing....
It appears to be inversely proportional to itself.
The more experiences you have, the less experiences you desire to have repeated, until, at some point in time, there are few experiences you look forward to, and less of the ones you cannot foresee are expected to be positive.

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PostSubject: Re: Satyrnalium Wed Oct 04, 2017 8:36 am

Deciphering Dreams
Each dream exposes the individual's internal hierarchy, his/her organic state, in relation to the world, or a particular event, phenomenon, in the world - an external hierarchy.

There are some primal symbolism, representing an evolutionary past, of the particular species - in this case homo sapient.
We have the common themes of drowning, or of predation, expressing insecurity before the unknown or the known.
The theme of falling, of running and not crossing a distance.
All of these are part of, what Jung would say, a collective unconscious, used by the mind to represents an anxiety which is present in its life.

Then we have symbolism derived from culture - memetic.
We live in an environment of semiotics. Our lives are immersed in symbols, words, creating metaphors drilled into us to be connected to particular products, ideas, concepts, feelings images.

Therefore, the dreamer is the only one who can decipher his own dreams, with the help, perhaps, of another who is adept in allowing him/her to explain his own dream, by guiding him out of pitfalls of misunderstanding.
Each symbol, may have a particular shared context, but it also has a personal context.
The metaphor may be shared with others that grew up in the same environments, withing the same semiotic culture, but it also varies in each individual, in the manner he relates, or reacts to it.
A wolf may have specific meanings, may carry a specific metaphorical context, but how it is understood, the degree of this effect, varies from individual to individual.
The individual may not understand, but only he can understand, because only he can explain his reaction to the particular metaphor - its implications, and connections to other metaphors, based on his genetic inheritance and his life experiences.

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PostSubject: Re: Satyrnalium Wed Oct 04, 2017 4:41 pm

The circle is a concept that could only have evolved in species that were predators or prey, on a planet which is spherical.
The organism is the center of the circle, a theoretical point in space/time, and the circle is a projection outwards, to the furthest point, on the horizon.
Connecting these infinite points creates a circle.


Now, the reason why in no-gravity environments patterns tend towards circularity, without ever forming a perfect circle/sphere, but only seeming to from a distance, where all detail tends to fade into ambiguity, is predicted by the way patterns (inter)act, in my  [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.],
In short, (inter)acting pattern merge, harmonize into a hot magma, at the center, if the pressure is sufficient - if patterns are continuously being attracted.
if not the magma, core, solidifies, into a uniform element, pattern.
The sphere is the shape of the projected attraction/repulsion field of effect, where repulsion is overcompensated by attraction, because of the continuing harmonization of patterns - all patterns not part of the core end towards its attractive force, overcoming what resistance of repulsion is present.
If the process continues, mass builds to the point where no repulsion can liberate patterns, or what remains of them, and not even chaotic/random Energies can escape.
A black hole. A star being an intermediate stage, where the mass is not large enough to restrict the escape fo patterns, and non-patterned energies.
a great big sphere of churning patterns, cooling and heating, in cycles - falling into the center and then pushed towards the surface, releasing vasts amounts of Energies.
We can also think of the circle as 4 triangles (quadrants), whose two sides are equal and shared and the third can be projected outward, to where all points are equidistant form the point of their connection - middle of the circle.
The brain must have evolved this method to determine direction, in relation to its head, or the eye, and distance, when the two eyes triangulate to determine distance, on a three-dimensional plane.
But organisms had to do it on a four-dimensional plane, so the circle is really a sphere.
The circle is simply the projection of quadrants level to the eye of the organism.
The sides are always stable, but the distant size is always ambiguous, shifting, so the curve encompasses possibilities, to the furthest extent of vision.

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PostSubject: Re: Satyrnalium Fri Oct 06, 2017 8:41 am

Fortunately, for me, most people do not understand what I am saying, or do not understand the implications of what I am saying, and of the rest most do not agree with what i am saying, and do not understand the implications of this disagreement.

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PostSubject: Re: Satyrnalium Fri Oct 06, 2017 10:06 am

No extended families. No generational representation, where great-grand parents, live close, or in the same house, with grandparents, and parents and their children, giving them a sense of continuity, of identity as tangible memories, narrative, genes as flesh and blood.

Modernism has fragmented man, into tiny little insignificant piece, looking for an identity, and finding it in ideologies, in materialism, in hedonism, in fantasies, in wealth, abstractions with no substance, and when these prove to be insufficient, seeking relief in narcotics, in entertainment, in distractions of any kind.
A world of urbanized disillusionment, and cynical self-comforting.
A world of insanity, looking for self in words, in symbols, in icons, in the intangible, the ideology, the noetic construct.

Common sense?
How can there be sense, common, or not, that denies its own senses. A sense the simplest organism accepts as self-evident.
A psychotic species is emerging.
Groundless, with no anchoring, with no past, denying all attempts to come down from the noetic, fantastic skies of mental creativity.
Minds addicted to imagination unhindered by an indifferent, challenging reality.

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PostSubject: Re: Satyrnalium Fri Oct 06, 2017 11:22 am

God being pronounced dead, was shocking to many family structures that had placed the male as god's representative on earth - a male by proxy, when god was the only true alpha and omega.
Then the family became nuclear and slowly disintegrated, reinventing itself as homosexual political unions, or pets in a household considered family buy their detached and disillusioned 'owners"...no companions,. caretakers.
God became State, the only true alpha and omega. He morphed, took on a new substantiality.
For those who could not make the leap form one submission to the next, there was a void, an absence.
No father figure to overcome, to surpass, and become a man, no mother to emulate and surpass to become a mother, a woman, what was left but a new transfiguration of God, into pure idea(l) - number, word, symbol, the concept of order, whole, one.
Before the idea(l) boys could feel less shamed for submitting to a incorporeal institution, usually represented by inferior, effete, males and increasingly by women.
Boys so lost and arrogant, that any deference to any living, corporeal entity felt embarrassing, demeaning, especially when there was no blood shared, no common identity.
To worship the idea(l), or a dead icon, representing the idea(l) masculine entity, absolute order, absolute masculinity, is easier on the ego.
It's hard-enough on a growing boy to challenge and overcome his own flesh and blood father, so you can imagine how difficult it would be to accept another man, as a figure to surpass.
If it were an abstraction, an idea(l) then there's no mind to feel submissive to.
Male ego is saved, but the rites of ascension are never finalized.
The boy remains stuck in a perpetual state of adolescence, under the shadow of an absolute idea(l), representing masculinity: order, authority, creativity, cruel...hard.

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PostSubject: Re: Satyrnalium Sat Oct 07, 2017 10:03 am

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The point is the product of binocular triangulation.
Two eyes focusing into the endless distance, meeting at some shifting point in space/time.
This is the point, from which lines of shifting distances, due to fluctuating existence – all is dynamic - are drawn, creating the geometric shapes.
The point is also the root of the concept of 'one' and its later negation 'nil' producing the abstract language of mathematics.
These shapes are "perfect" in theory... in the mind, as noetic ideals. Outside the brain there is no perfect shape.
Its theoretical perfection is due to sensual limitations, and distance from the theoretical shape... as one comes closer the shape dissipates into further shapes... fragmentation.
Like the numerical idea of 'one' the shape is a human abstraction, that cannot be found outside the mind.
Useful interpretations, projection, but if taken literally it can result in the psychosis many moderns suffer from.
All language is art – representational.
Misunderstanding it as being literal, is psychotic – narcissistic, egotistic arrogance, trying to deal with an innate anxiety/fear.
Language is an externalization of mental abstractions, the nervous system projected outward, which helps the organism orient itself within a fluctuating world.
Later it develops into a code, a method of externalizing man's understanding of himself, and the world he awakens to – techniques/technologies.
This projection of internal constructs is then confused for a world being conscious, or the esoteric becomes the exoteric, in a classic inversion of psychosis.
Man's internal world, becomes externalized - all is conscious, alive, thinking, judging, feeling....in whatever manner the individual desires - desire expressing a private need.
Man sees himself, as he understand himself, in everything, everywhere.

Nihilism = inversion.
Man's internal abstractions, hopes, feelings, processes made external, negating the external, covering it up in projected symbols/words.
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Memetic parasitical virus - dis-ease.
Modernity as sickness - madness.

Logic is the study of language and its consistency with math/geometry.
It is the method of establishing a semiotic self-consistency, once the point/one is taken for granted.
The arc is not a straight line because of fluctuating distances in a fluid environment.

If we look at the diagram and the extending distance between the two lines, we see the beginning of a circle.
Every point on the arc an ambiguous point of equal distance form the projected point, itself a product of triangulation.

There is no point in space/time as there is no one, no absolute.
It is a projection of a theoretical ambiguous, shifting noetic projection, being constantly reaffirmed, adjusted, recalculated.
Geometry is the theoretical static point, in a theoretical unchanging plane, of a theoretical perfect point in a three-dimensional plane.
It is noetic. So abstract as to refer to anything, at any time, that meets the theoretical criteria.
As is the number one, and its negation the nil - setting up binary logic 1/0, and then dualism of either/or which Nihilism is trapped in, willfully (Hypocrisy, cowardice) and often not willfully but due to a genetic limitation (idiocy).

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PostSubject: Re: Satyrnalium Sat Oct 07, 2017 12:59 pm

Randomness/chaos does not mean there is no causality, but only that the effect is never consistent, never predictable.
Energies - patterned/non-patterned, (inter)act.
The patterned, ordered, with consistent, predictability, and the random with inconsistent unpredictability.

Energies = Order/Chaos, or pattern/non-pattern (inter)acting.
Interacting means - attraction/repulsion, producing friction - fragmentation, adding to space/time and to chaos.
Attraction/Repulsion are measurements of harmony between patterns and non-patterns, which in the latter case are always disharmonious - so attraction/repulsion is am measure of patterns and how in harmony they are - how their vibrations relate.
No will, no intent, no consciousness required.

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PostSubject: Re: Satyrnalium Sat Oct 07, 2017 1:05 pm

Why does everything appear ordered to an organic brain?
Because the brain, being an organ within an organism, is a forager of patterns.
It finds patterns attractive, because it is dependent no them....life eats life.
This is old news. Ancient, in fact.

Second factor...brain processes data, often entering it via the nervous system and via a medium, such as air or light.
This means that the phenomenon is processed after-the-fact...there's a lag between the phenomenon agitating the medium, and the medium agitating the sensory cells, and the data being translated and transmitted to the brain, and the data being processed there.
so we are experienced reality in the past - looking back.
This experience is subjective...it is in our brains.
Therefore, randomness is assimilated into the final outcome, as appearance.
We can only perceive order of a certain level, degree, where it manifests as phenomenon, but not only that but the phenomenon is translated twice, by the time it reached the brain, so randomness is excluded or not processed, or it is integrated in the final result.

Randomness is a very distressing thing for an organism dependent on order.
It is terrifying.
The mind would rather believe in an evil order, than to believe in randomness, because randomness cannot be dealt with, cannot be reasoned with, tricked, rationalized, bartered with...it is entirely non-correctable.
That is why nihilistic spirituality begins...and in the west this is where Judaism starts, and then becomes Christianity and Islam, and then forms into secular Marxism, Humanism and so on.
It is this existential angst it exploits, and the weaker ones covet. This is salvation, from the woes of an indifferent, somewhat unpredictable reality.
No matter how strong, smart, you are, you remain vulnerable to randomness.
You can only increase your odds, to be in your favour, you cannot guarantee anything.

This is the resentiment Nietzsche spoke of in relation to the overman.
A future man that has overcome the bitterness towards existence that both concerns him to the unforeseeable, and also makes him possible.
Chaos making order possible...giving it value, if and when it becomes conscious.

For lifeless Energies there is only attraction/repulsion based on their patterns.

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PostSubject: Re: Satyrnalium Sat Oct 07, 2017 1:19 pm

Mythologies, the occult are ways of comforting the human mind.
Mostly they are a way to dumb-down reality for the mediocre, average mind.
It integrates complexity and randomness in narratives the average mind can relate to, and by relating to it feel it to be more intimate and therefore less distressing.

The occult insinuates order, known order, that it does not have. It exploit idiocy, by claiming something the average mind wants to be so.
The more mystifying it is, the more comforted it feels...as if it were being exposed to a certainty that higher mind comprehend, even if it does not, but can only feel its truth.
it is always delivered in convoluting language, and pseudo-intellectual rhetoric, pretending to be specialized and deep secret codes, because it is in fact clueless, and only interested in self-medication and mass exploitation of mediocrity, to make existence pleasing until the end.
The more obscure the lingo, the more full of shit it is.
This is why it usually rearranges words, to imply something profound.

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PostSubject: Re: Satyrnalium Sat Oct 07, 2017 6:40 pm

Two basic types of words, other than the ones used for grammar, syntax, sentence structure, linguistic conventions.  

Brain, Noumenon <> Word <> Phenomenon
Here dictionary definitions connect the mind via the symbol/word, to the apparent, the observable, phenomenon.
Most meaningful words.
The usage of the word may not give pleasure to the user, but this is not its utility.

Brain, Noumenon <> Word <> Back to Brain, connecting to another abstraction.
Self-referential

The word may connect to an abstraction in another brain, giving the impression that it has an external reference.
Nihilistic words, Self-Referential
Another way to make a word self-referential is to detach it from its reference to reality, its proper use, and then place it within a sequence of words, in an an entirely arbitrary place.
Mystery, Mysticism.

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PostSubject: Re: Satyrnalium Sun Oct 08, 2017 8:00 pm

Chaos and Order are not opposites.
They are both Energies, vibrations, dynamic possibility, exiting and (inter)active.
they differ only in that one has a order,, a pattern of repeating, predictable sequences, different tones, rhythms to be interpreted as different kinds of matter, energy...and the other has an inconsistent, unpredictable, erratic vibration, that still (inter)acts, and may become apparent for a short time/space distance, and so can never be categorize not form into more complex, intricate balanced unities, to make them perceptible to an organism like man.
Chaos remains minuscule, and it is continuously fragmenting, expanding time/space and increasing entropy.

There is no consistency to form a balance of attraction/repulsion, no stable harmonics to harmonize with other vibrations, Energies.
It can only be found on what man calls the quantum level.

Chaos/Order are opposites for an organism dependent on order, and evaluating all in relation to itself.

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PostSubject: Re: Satyrnalium Sun Oct 08, 2017 8:10 pm

Three general types of abstractions, represented by symbols/words, or by a combination of them.

1-Concepts referring to observable phenomena: behaviors, interactions.

2-Concept that refer to other concepts, or combination of abstractions referring to other abstractions, existing in the mind - (solipsism, self-referential), or referring to minds other than the one thinking them (adopted and shared).

3- Concepts that are a synthesis of 1 & 2.
These are the most hypocritical and confusing.
an observable concept can be combined with a purely noetic abstraction, so that the two are considered inseparable by the mind.
I called this piggy-backing, or Trojan horse method, to describe a strategy of inserting into a mind an absurd concept, that seems logical because it is associated with an observable phenomenon.

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PostSubject: Re: Satyrnalium Mon Oct 09, 2017 6:39 am

Some things to keep in mind in relation to Satyr's metaphysical positions as these have been laid-out in brief in [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.].

1- Random Energies (vibrations = ocsillations of possibility/space) can only remain on the quantum level, because randomness cannot harmonize, therefore it cannot create ephemeral balanced unities, like particles, and then cells and larger perceptible phenomena.  
On the level where man can perceive phenomena chaos never reaches.
The smallest quanta is fragmenting constantly as time/space expands, and dimensions multiply.
So, chaos is shrinking within the four-dimensional plane while expanding its effect into multiplicity of dimensions.

2- Lag time of processing.
The human brain requires a certain length of time/space to collect and process data from (inter)activity. Even using light, there is a time period required for the medium to (inter)act with phenomenon, and then the sensory cell, the eye, be translated, converted into neural pulse, transmitted to the brain and then processed as abstraction.
We are always perceiving the world in the past.
Now, this lag is tiny, making brain speed crucial to survival, but it is inescapable.
What does this mean in relation to patterned and non-patterned Energies, or order/chaos.
It means we can only perceive the consequences of (inter)actions, not the (inter)actions as they occur. Because we can only perceive order, patterns, we can only witness the effects of chaos-randomness upon order - patterns.  We can only witness chaos indirectly.
Randomness is integrated into pattern, in other words, when the stimuli is translated into a neural pulse, which is a type of order, a type of pattern.
Out interpretations of phenomena assimilate patterns and randomness into a different pattern - codified.
So, of course the mind believes it exists within order, or some mind are convinced that they create reality, or that reality is knowable, and understandable.

3- The shift from brain to mind is what is partially represented allegorically by Plato's cave.
Think of brain (matter, body) as the movie reel, with representations, frozen space/time, placed in sequence, and , after projecting light through this sequence the image on the movie screen as the mind (energy - representational).
We experience reality as abstractions (pictures on a reel), placed in temporal sequence, projected as mind, imitating, translating existence into a form we can comprehend and has proven effective, useful.
The theater is the allegorical cave. The firelight is the will, and the light outside, sunlight is reality, the world.
We can only experience reality in our subjective cranium, the proverbial cave.
For many the outside the cave is too hurtful, too distressing, too blinding.
So, we only perceive an interpretation of stimuli which is validated by application, or by techniques, called reasoning, logic, which have developed to avoid the costs of a trial/error approach, a primitive basic methodology.
The third-logical-principle of the [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] is an imposition of a restriction upon the mind, where absurdity is infinitely possible.
In nature such a law need not be articulated. Natural order needs no such human law to impose a limit on its interactivity, but the human mind does, because in the human mind no natural order applies. In the mind frozen fire, and the absolute, can be contemplated, imagined, verbally stated, because there stimuli are translated into a simplified/generalized form (abstraction), so vague that they can be combined in any way imaginable. The mind is not restricted by natural order - it has no space/time restrictions, and so can place sequences in any way it pleases....it can rearrange the pictures to run backwards or in a strange surreal combination, just as we can edit a movie reel, splice the pictures into any sequence, projecting upon the screen a mess we can then declare to be profound insight.
We can mix pictures from different sequences, sample different movies, we can isolate a sequence and alter it with graphics....there is no end to what we can do in the mind.
Taking the end product seriously, literally, is where modernity goes mad.
The mind, if it is protected from the consequences, then begins to believe it can create its own world, its own experiences, by manipulated abstractions.
Movie editing is a god-like process where an entire world, a reality, can be altered with subtle changes in the reels sequences.

Man had to devise a law, principles, to limit what combinations were to be considered seriously, to restrict the minds creative imagination, its fluidity, so that the thought adjusts to natural order, or reflects it accurately.
The mind can easily be taken over by absurdity, especially if the body it is a manifestation of, is protected from the real world - from the risks and costs. Culling is a limit, which weeds out errors in judgments and delusions taken seriously and acted upon...but in modern systems this is not the case.
In Modern systems error, absurdity, is protected from the consequences...and we get ILP, or the everyday world of insanity.

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PostSubject: Re: Satyrnalium Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:20 am

Using the human body, the nervous, skeletal system, wrapped in a membrane/skin,as a metaphor for human ideas, we can see that where spinal column meets cranium is where body becomes mind - exoteric becomes esoteric.
The skeleton is the core of a theory that requires fleshing out.
If reality contradicts it, this fleshing out is impossible when exposed to real natural forces, and can only grow if placed in a quarantined, controlled, sheltering environments, where the conditioned can be adjusted to accommodate it.

If exposed to reality the flesh hangs in a haphazard decaying way, like a Zombie.

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PostSubject: Re: Satyrnalium Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:25 am

Only life, living organisms, have will, because only living organisms can feel flux, or interactivity producing need/suffering; only living organism have choice because only life has memory, intuitive, instinctive, or conscious.
Ergo only life can be described as having an ego, a self.
Ego being the same as self, in Greek, but used here, by me, to differentiate consciousness of self, from unconscious, unknown, self, as the connection of memories, DNA, to past.
Memories can be lucid or stored as code, DNA, but they are necessary to differentiate life from non-living phenomena.
Memory is the binding mechanism creating the continuum of self, of identity.

All else functions on patterns and non-patterns interacting in the only way they can interact: as the pattern, with a particular rhythm, tone, range of effect, that they are relative to other.
Their patterns relating to other patterns as attractive, in harmony, or repulsive, not in harmony.
Since random Energies are what they are, they are always repulsive, making the expansion of time/space, we call Big Bang, possible.

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PostSubject: Re: Satyrnalium Mon Oct 09, 2017 2:31 pm

Rejection of the other, or of the world can take two forms:

One, on the grounds that it is too much, and the second on the grounds that it is not enough.
Both are convinced they deserve more, or other, or less, but never this.
Both negate the world as it is, as it is experienced.
The first reducing it in complexity, all the way down to dualism, denying its own senses, and the other exaggerating it by projecting it as a secret occult depth, not trusting its own senses.

The first deflates, the second inflates.
Both reject the world as it is, entirely, or selectively.

This is where pure nihilism disagrees with positive nihilism.  

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PostSubject: Re: Satyrnalium Mon Oct 09, 2017 7:36 pm

The clearest indication of understanding is the ability to simplify what is complex, so that individuals with a lower IQ can understand.
Understanding is expressed in an ability to describe what is understand in multiple ways, clearly and honestly.

Understanding itself, is the discovery of a pattern governing all patterns involved in a unity, or in an interactivity.
Knowing is the reduction of phenomenon to an abstraction = simplification/generalization.
Understanding is the reduction of said abstractions to a unifying concept.

This simplification/generalization is not a loss but a gain.
By simplifying/generalizing one can connect multiple such simplification/generalizations into larger mental models.

Such abstractions can be tested, against the world using the three methods I described elsewhere.

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PostSubject: Re: Satyrnalium Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:46 pm

One can only admire the tenacity and resilience of the feminine mind, using the same psychological manipulation we first experienced in high-school, the years of painful awakening to the social restrictions upon our natural drives.
Females never advance beyond this stage, having progressed faster towards it, compared to males.
Feminization stops boys there, forcing them to remain immature men-children, stunted males....feminine.
They use the same methods, the same adolescent tactics, expecting the same results.

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PostSubject: Re: Satyrnalium Thu Oct 12, 2017 4:10 pm

Think of philosophy, as it is approached by degenerate moderns, like a return to teenage angst and like you're back in high-school.
Who is more popular, who is more cool, who has the best drugs, has the best image; who knows people that know people, who gets the most pussy, who has the nicest car, who has the best rep, who goes to the best and most parties, and has street cred; who uses slang or invented a new cool word that went viral; who's a nerd, a loner with no friends, or belongs to the cool clique....
That's all it is.

If you think about it most of these psychotics did not come to philosophy because they were interested in reality, they came to it because they were looking for solutions, for direction, for meaning, for something they could not pinpoint but felt like an ache; they were looking for a way to stand-out form the same ideals they promoted.
They all had a motive other than seeing the world as it is.
So, they assume that because this is so for them, that this is so for everyone.  

Going to forums, especially the popular ones, is like visiting a medical institution, or a penitentiary for troubled teens.
All presumably 'adults' that think and act like teenagers. All stunted, by something or other, and stuck in a perpetual state of puberty.
Know what that's called?
Feminization.

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PostSubject: Re: Satyrnalium Fri Oct 13, 2017 6:26 am

The issue is not why individuals existing in the same world, raised in generally similar cultures, with generally the same level of intelligence agree on the common sense fundamentals, but why, given the similarities, they do not agree.
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Are we go further into the past we will find a fundamental agreement in basic things, like appearances means something, males and females are not the same, and they are not the same both in physical and in mental potentials, that race is a fundamental part of evolution, about what is sex..and so on.
Peoples isolated geographically came to similar conclusions, using different metaphors, symbols, but agreeing on the basics...but as we come forward into Modernity this agreement is not a given, other than the agreement to disagree.
We are now at a point of disagreeing with our own body, our own past....we claim to be other than what we appear, or females trapped in male bodies, and are confused about the meaning of words like 'value', 'sex', 'human', and so on.

Degenerates, taking it for granted that there is no shared, objective reality, assume that all agreement is a result of some kind of force, to validate their starting position.
But the opposite is the case, in a inverted realism, called nihilism.

How can it be that individuals of the same species, existing in the same world, fail to agree on basic facts?
You will not find other species debating the validity of their sensual perceptions.
You will not find them questioning their sex, or the differences between breeds within the same species.

Only man is a psychotic.
Only man can look into world and dismiss his own senses as superficial, his own symbols as insufficient, reality as insufficient or far too much to bear, choosing an alternate one.

The only explanation is self-domestication.
Domestication of man, Feminization.
Domestication involves.
1- Quarantine - separation of environment from nature, from the wild - ignorance and/or denial of objective world - reality beyond the walls/fences.
2- Selection according to specific production value, not genetic qualities - rearranging values and judging standards.
3- Cultivation of docility, amicability, tolerance within confined controlled environments - taming.
4- An inability to return to the wild - dependence on the quarantined environment.
5- Regimentation - Specific periods and places for eating, defecating, playing, working, copulating, waking/sleeping; not following circadian rhythms, or planetary cycles - detachment from natural cycles - training.

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PostSubject: Re: Satyrnalium Fri Oct 13, 2017 8:34 am

The reason for this intellectual confusion is man's immersion within symbolic linguistic worlds,. constructing alternate, internal realities.
Only man by willfully making words meaningless can create issues where there are none, making once self-evident common sense facts debatable concepts, and only man by misusing language, by manipulating symbols for their emotional triggering powers, can claim that some philosophical problem has been resolved, by simply altering the meaning of a word, to accommodate a mystification that permits the illusion, the feeling, that real intellectual problems are solved.

How easy it is to solve the mind/body issue by changing the meaning of words, or using them in a way that implies a solution, without doing so?
How easy to produce an issue where none exists, as in the case with mind/body, where the mind can reject the appearance of the body, by using the ambiguity of the term spirit/soul.
How easy to resolve naturally produced inequality, a product of natural selection, by altering the definition of the term 'human'.

Word juggling is what clowns are good at.
Children love clowns.
A natural symbiotic relationship between clowns, pretending to be serious by painting frowns on their faces, and men-children, wanting to feel happy, to laugh, to feel joy, to surrender to fantasy, to make the world more fascinating.  
 
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Clowns attract men-children by the dozen.
Men-Children love clowns, and secretly fear them. They love how clowns make them feel, with their antics, their extraordinary talents with word-juggling, their acrobatics, their participation in a circus atmosphere, full of all kinds of wonders - bizarre freaks, manimals doing tricks, performers spreading joy, and of course clowns.

Clowns take their clown-craft seriously. It's hard work making men-children jump for joy.
You have to learn all kinds of tricks, other than word-juggling.
There's hot-air blowing and twisting into funny manimals, and the talent of falling without getting hurt, and performing before a large audience full of men-children wanting to be entertained.
You have to keep your performance fresh and exciting, with new tricks, like balancing on tight-ropes, or pie in the face routines, or riding on mono-cycles, or using confetti and bubbles, or little puppies in the act.
It's a full time job being a clown.
It required a vivid infantile imagination. You have to know what immature, little girls, and still developing men-children want, how they think,and then give it to them.
You can't pretend to be a clown. The kids will see right through it. You must embody clownishness. You actually have to become a clown, not act like a clown.
You have to believe in the performance.  

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The attraction of a circus is that it offers a magical alternate reality the audience can enter and leave behind the real world, full of their real problems - a welcomed relief.
Men-children adore clowns and the strange world of the circus, because it triggers their childish fantasies.
Clowns juggle words, and symbolic things....they blow-up colourful balloons with hot air from their bright-red mouths.
Men-Children laugh and clap when they watch big, bright, hot-air rising into the air....going higher, higher and higher, floating up with them in their heads - magical stuff.  
It's well known that the real men, under all the clown makeup and the clown baggy uniforms and floppy shoes, hiding the body, are usually miserable people, acting happy to earn a living, and enjoying the attention - evaluating themselves by the quantity of people that came to watch them, and by the applause their antics produce.
All clowns really want is to be loved by men-children, and by little girls....to be adored and acknowledged by an audience. That's the only standard the clown has.
All the clown really wants is to make men-children happy, because a clown is a man-child himself, under all that clown makeup, and his asexual, non-human, getup.

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As long as there are men-children, and little girls, in the world, wanting to be taken away into magical lands, there will be clowns to be found, in and out of a circus.

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PostSubject: Re: Satyrnalium Fri Oct 13, 2017 1:46 pm

There are, of course, as with everything gradations of clownishness.
There are clowns aiming at a infant audience, those aiming at a boyish crowd, and there are clowns who want to attract older men-children, around the teenage years.
These clowns have their own paraphernalia.
Instead of balloons, they have bongs, to help the adolescents watch one another get high - the usual giggling and laughing, and mirth is to be expected, as joy is the target of the clowns inflation of reality, to a hyper-reality.

A adolescent audience requires adolescent cloning around.
Word-juggling becomes slang, Ebonics, to sound cool and to differentiate the group from the others, whoever they might be...those that are not high, or having fun, or enjoying deep insights in their narcotic joy.
Some are more health oriented, demanding magic mushrooms to get their magic fix.
A nice natural way to get wasted.
Magic visions, the world turns to a kaleidoscope of distractions.

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Lost men-children, and teenage girls, need a higher level of clown to bring them out of their insecurity shells...to let go, and be themselves in a crowd.
The clown is always sexually oriented. Directly or through insinuations.
The magic gets you what you most desire...money, pussy, love, cars, deep insights into the nature of reality...anything.
You just have to keep an open-mind and be brave enough to let go.

The clown has the role of performing hypnotist, cultivating a certain ambience to bring out the adolescent anxiety - to release itself.
Symbols/words, sturgeons it's all part of the act, of making teenagers comfortable enough to become receptive to suggestion.
Then it's a party...and what teenager does not love to party?

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PostSubject: Re: Satyrnalium Fri Oct 13, 2017 3:32 pm

Nihilism is an idea which negates reality, by proposing a concept that is not only void of meaning, outside the human mind, but it contradicts the experienced world.

It usually proposes an occult, hidden realm, in the beyond - above or below perception - or an ideal that has never, been witnessed, and attempts to justify this concept using symbols/words.
In other words it proposes an absolute, has no evidence of it, justifies it as hidden in the metaphysical or the idealistic hidden world, and then uses words to validate it, because it is unable to point to an example that does not require a symbol/word.

This is what makes it entirely dependent on symbols/words, and the esoteric, or some beyond time/space, alternate world, that is more real, than the real..

Its methods are psychological.
It implies that to understand it you must be of a certain quality....like those fArtists who splash paint on canvas, and sell it as profound to gullible imbeciles.
Talent is replaced by salesmanship.
You can sell anything to a fool, if you determine his weakness.
Using something as simple as peer-pressure, and the desire to fit-in and to not be excluded, and to feel special, the salesman sells you a shit-box, and calls it a Jaguar.
All it takes is product sexiness, using the right name.

If our ideas cannot be shown, but only spoken, or written, then they are not real, they are representations of the real, and exist in the mid, and only in the mind, as a neurological pattern, energy: vague, emotional, sensational, arbitrary.
It is only useful as a psychological tool to manipulate others, to seduce, to convince, to coerce them.
It is like the #1, or the concept of a circle...it is an idea, a concept, that can apply to anything that is approximately like the perfection in our heads.

If you cannot point to a one, a perfect circle...an absolute - indivisible, immutable, complete, perfect - then you only have a theoretical idea(l), and nothing more.
if you believe in it literally, then you are a nihilist.
It's not the world, it's YOU.
You are the problem.

If you cannot point to a behavior, a pattern, as evidence of the concept the word 'absolute' refers to, then what is it?
Why can't you find the word, as you define it, anywhere outside your skull, and the skulls of those who understand it in the same way?

Take the word 'love'.
It refers to particular behaviors, and feelings, we as social animals, have experienced.
But in the minds of romantic idealists it means something divine, extraordinary, supernatural....and their repeated failure to possess it, and their inability to show it, proves that it only exists in their mind, as a vague idea(l) they, theseelves, cannot fully comprehend....justifying it using mysticism, pretending that only the worthy know it, is bullshyte.
Any absurdity can be "proven' in this way.

I can declare goat-men as being more than metaphorical, but that ti takes a special language, special qualities, a worthiness to find one in reality.
I can say that goat-men are for the few, special, ones, because it requires a higher logic, and that this logic is too sophisticated for me to get into.
I can say that the language i apply usurps common language...it revolutionizes human understanding.
I can say that goat-men exist out there, somewhere above or below, and it has yet to be discovered but it will, one day, in the future when humanity is ready to accept this magical creature.

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PostSubject: Re: Satyrnalium Fri Oct 13, 2017 4:15 pm

Objectivity means you attempt, when possible, to connect the dictionary definition of a word, the conventional meaning ascribed to a symbol, with a phenomenon, in the world.
You connect, using semiotics, the noumenon with the phenomenon.  
You relate, the subjective interpretation of reality, with the object of interest, the objective, the world.

This is what I mean by bringing it 'down to earth' and objectivity.  

The desire to dismiss all such attempts, because you prefer that those particular words remain vague, idealistic, and easily ridiculed, or to use this detachment to justify any hypothesis, is founded on an ulterior motive, and a lack of integrity - cowardice, and shameless hypocrisy.

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PostSubject: Re: Satyrnalium Sun Oct 15, 2017 1:42 pm

The simplest things allude the idealistic mind of the degenerate.
They imagine primal human as being nice, pacifistic, non-violent.
The myth of the 'noble savage' has become an ideal they cannot let go of.

No tribe, in the history of man has ever not been pacifist.

Simple exercise...
Imagine a tribe that is pacifist....does not kill, is against violence, would rather die than fight.
Their ideal is peace, cooperation, compromising, sacrificing self to other.
Imagine a tribe that is violent....kills to survive and to expand its power.

What will happen when the first tribe comes across the second?
How long will it take for tribe #2 to slaughter and/or enslave tribe #1?

Romantic idealism belongs to nihilism.
It is rooted in a mind that has refused to confront itself and the world ti is born into, thrown into.

In its ill mind it begins to believe violence is learned and not part of nature, or that if it is part of nature, man is excluded.
Such a degenerate imagines an idealized primitive man - kind, docile, loving, cooperative....This is the crap he was told in Abrahamism, to convince him that all this was because man sinned...that Adam was this ideal primitive, or it is brain washed by Marxism to believe that selfishness is a product of Capitalism, and that before that system was invented, out of thin air, all humans were communist.
It confuses blood relations, and tribal instincts for a passive, sharing, egalitarianism.

Man was made violent, and selfish....he learned this behaviour.

Such retards have never read a single book on evolution, the selfish gene, for example, or Evolutionary psychology...they dismiss all animal behaviour because it contradicts the delusion that man is born a blank slate and has all its nastiness put in him, by some evil will.
They romanticize man....like all retarded naive imbecile do.
Because it feels good, it gives them hope, it is comforting.
It's a way to avoid facing their own feebleness, and need for self-evaluation, and action, adaptation.
they insist that it is the world that must change to accommodate them...and that this world exists behind, below, up there, down there, somewhere.
This ideal keeps them sane.
They giggle nervously when it is contradicted...having nothing but this expression of release to answer the arguments and the evidence their own eyes are exposed to.

They've inverted reality to accommodate their inadequacies, and have invested a lifetime to preserving these delusions.

Natural selection works on competitiveness, violence, injustice, cruelty.
Some are born sexy, others are not.
Some are born strong, others are not.  
Some are born smart, others are not.

Nature works on differences, not on similarities.

How can you have a serious conversation with someone who does not even accept the fundamental principles of natural selection?
Better to discuss Peter Pan with a ten-year-old.

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PostSubject: Re: Satyrnalium Yesterday at 9:59 am

---A theory has to be observable by all. It has to be available to everyone for validation, testing.
Placing the justification in an internal, esoteric, private realm, is an easy way to evade this necessity.
Then all you are bound by is self-consistency and, if you wish to add external validation, it must be seductive, pleasing, promising, hopeful....positive, to as many minds as possible.
The theory compensates for a lack of external references with a multiplicity of followers, believers, creating an echo-chamber of inter-subjectivity. Each believer using his own personal feelings, interests to justify the same theory independently from all others.
The theory, the ideal, becomes a focal point - a world on its own. It replaces the observable, indifferent, shared world with a web of internally self-consistent abstractions, once a few basic presumptions have been establishes as self-evident.

---A theory must provide the possibility for prediction, or it has to have a utility - it has to be applied.
This is in correlation to the previous.
It is a reaction to the first.
The theory may or may not offer its own implied reactions, methods of dealing with what is exposed as common, as observable by all.
This is not necessary because each individual is unique in his attributes, and motives.
What works for one, may not work as well for another, and what one desires may be a secondary desire for another.
The theory provides the framework within which individuals, or categories of psychologies, can determine and place into action their own reaction to what is revealed.

---A theory must be independent from any one individual.
The most objective theories are the ones that would hold true even if there were nobody present to know and understand them.
A theory's dependence of minds to be convinced, to follow, to appreciate, to acknowledge, to believe, are not objective.
The standard is external to the particular individual, so that each holds himself accountable to it, independently from everyone else.  
A theory describing something that can be ignored, or dismissed with no consequences, demanding that one acknowledge it before it has an effect, is not philosophy...it is sophistry.

---A theory ought not to require specialized language, or experts to be understood and validated by an average mind.
If it describes and defines something in a shared reality, an average intelligence can comprehend and validate it on its own.
The term 'revealing', or the Greek term 'aletheia', -un-forget...implies something all can see, and know, but have forgotten.
It is not the world that has concealed itself but they have concealed the world from themselves, or it is some other mind, or collective, that has placed it in concealment. The un-covering, is experienced as a revelation, a clarity, unveiling, of what has always been present.
The awakening mind feels like he or she has always known what it is being exposed to.
Understanding is finding patterns in the patterns, data - connecting relationships.
A teacher may reveal these connections to a student that could not, but when the connections are revealed the student wonders why it could not see what was always before its eyes.

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PostSubject: Re: Satyrnalium Yesterday at 10:47 am


Infinite number of interpretations, competing in the real world, is the natural selection of ideologies.
An interpretation has to refer to refer to phenomena in the real-world, outside the brain, otherwise it is pure noetic abstraction - theoretical ideology.
This would include all negations of ideologies, because it\'s easy to reject, deny, declare something wrong, using symbols/words, just as it is to create something, a theory, which is self-consistent and declare it right.
In both cases there is no application, or no negation based on observable, testable, shared phenomena.
There are only declarative affirmations and negations, using symbols words rooted in personal interests, emotions, or some synthesis of abstractions that have no external reference.
Those I named positive Nihilists, compensate for this absence by hijacking words, pulling them out of the world and converting them to noetic constructs, and then redefining them in accordance with their private, esoteric, self-referential, self-flattering, self-preserving, consistencies, and by substituting an indifferent world with a collective of minds, full of cares - needs, desires, prejudices.
This is their 'external validation': followers, believers, peers, quantities, popularity. Majority is the absolute validation of their theories.

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PostSubject: Re: Satyrnalium Yesterday at 4:34 pm

Philosophy is to symbols/words what a painter is to shapes and colours.
A philosopher is an artist using language.

A painter, when he wants to paint a tree, sits down in a park, or a forest, and paints one directly, or uses his vast experience with trees, in their many forms and hues, to then represent one, from memory, sitting in his den.
His talent, his eye for details, is represented in the painting, which all can appreciate, given that all have experienced, have personally seen trees.

A nihilist, splashes some random colours on a canvas and calls it "a tree", daring anyone to say that it isn't, because he wishes he were an artist but has no talent for it...or he copies a painting of a tree that was once highly appreciated, and often mentioned as a beautiful depiction of a tree, by a very talented artist, only altering the shapes, and colours, to hide his forgery, or he combines two, or three different paintings of trees, altering, again, their shapes and colours to hide his forgery.
The outcome looks surreal, not real, because in his haste to replicate the appreciation, the fame and fortune, the accolades and acknowledgement, he copied and presented a caricature of a tree, that looks nothing like any tree ever experienced, by anyone.
He then gathers his cronies, who he has sold on the depth of meaning his painting has, and cultivates the myth of his own talent, by implying that whoever does not see the perfect depiction of treeness in his caricature is unsophisticated, or not worthy of his "art".
He may even claim that trees are internal concepts, and that his painting of a caricature of a tree promises far more than any real tree can ever promise. The idea of a tree being preferable to an actual tree.

Then, there's the cynic, who seeing a realistic painting of a tree, questions its veracity by asking for evidence that green is the colour most trees have, or demanding a definition of 'greeness', and why we see green when colour is subjective.  
He wants to hide his lack of talent, or his fear of reality, in an unending pseudo-intellectual skepticism that can never go anywhere because it does not even begin from the observed, from the obvious.
He becomes, conveniently, stuck in semantics and doubting his own senses.
He wants to settle on there being no such thing as trees, and so no way to know if they are really green or not.
He does not want to discuss a general greeness most trees have, and then proceed as to why and how, but demands to begin with trees that may not be green at all, but red....or purple....or orange.
A ploy, for he doesn't really want to know why most trees are green, he only wants to not validate any depiction of trees, and their treeness, fearing he will also be so easily perceived and depicted.
He declares trees to be more than their appearance....and that any painting of a tree cannot possibly hope to depict the essence of treeness...nothing can compare to the idealized tree, the perfect, absolute tree.
What's the value of a tree anyhow?
Who's to say which painting of a tree is more accurate?
Maybe a line with some dots on paper is better.
Who's to know?

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