Know Thyself

Nothing in Excess
 
HomePortalFAQMemberlistSearchRegisterLog in

Share | 
 

 Satyrnalium

View previous topic View next topic Go down 
Go to page : Previous  1 ... 16 ... 27, 28, 29
AuthorMessage
Satyr
Daemon
avatar

Gender : Male Pisces Posts : 17016
Join date : 2009-08-24
Age : 52
Location : Flux

PostSubject: Re: Satyrnalium Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:44 pm

When "The Tribe" got rid of the gold standard it made money a god on earth.
Utopia is the equalization of potentials using money to compensate and 'correct' inherited injustices.
They made themselves god's bankers – collecting taxes and investing in god’s will.
Money is another semiotics framework; language using representations.
In this case, they refer to ideas, concept... abstractions.
Money has become tangible idealism. The perfect abstraction for inter-subjectivity: it can mean anything to anyone, and its ‘value’ is determined by supply and demand – entirely determined by human interactions.
With it one can manufacture more than Chomsky’s consent. He can manufacture wants, incorporating needs and desires into a trendy product.

_________________
γνῶθι σεαυτόν
μηδέν άγαν
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://satyr.canadian-forum.com/
Satyr
Daemon
avatar

Gender : Male Pisces Posts : 17016
Join date : 2009-08-24
Age : 52
Location : Flux

PostSubject: Re: Satyrnalium Fri Jun 22, 2018 7:04 pm

When man scraped the images in his head upon a stone, and could then carry it around, and save it, and bury it, and then dig it up and find it still there, he thought he had come upon a magical power.
He showed it to his companions and explained what the scraping on the stone meant, making them smile, and admire him for his new invention.
The stone with the marking became a talisman of power.

He could keep it, or give it away. He could throw it, hide it, and wash it...and it would not fade.
He realized that even when he died this mark would remain behind. A thought made immortal.
Ideology was born.

_________________
γνῶθι σεαυτόν
μηδέν άγαν
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://satyr.canadian-forum.com/
Satyr
Daemon
avatar

Gender : Male Pisces Posts : 17016
Join date : 2009-08-24
Age : 52
Location : Flux

PostSubject: Re: Satyrnalium Sat Jun 23, 2018 11:32 am

Base morality uses the body to define itself.
What survives and what propagates is good.
Genes
Self - Subjective
PAST

Nihilistic morality uses mind to define itself.
The idea/ideal -  that survives and propagates is good.
Memes
Ideal - Ideology
FUTURE

Aryan, or noble spirits merge the two.
Genes extended as memes, in the PRESENT.
Morality is what produces the highest possibilities.
Past projected through the Present towards the Future.

Memes is limited by Gene, and its ability to overcome, without linguistic declarations and rejections, in the present, is deemed superior - good.

_________________
γνῶθι σεαυτόν
μηδέν άγαν
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://satyr.canadian-forum.com/
Satyr
Daemon
avatar

Gender : Male Pisces Posts : 17016
Join date : 2009-08-24
Age : 52
Location : Flux

PostSubject: Re: Satyrnalium Sat Jun 23, 2018 5:09 pm

Cause <> Effect.
No gap.There's a flow.

The momentum IS the existent.
Pattern IS the particle, matter/energy.
Movement is not what happens to the existent...it IS the existent.
There is no 'thing' that is affected and affects.
There is only process.
Interacting....cause/effect.

Existence = the dynamic, (inter)-active = Flux.
the dynamic can have a predictable repeating consistency (order) or it can lack a predictable, repeating, consistency (random).
Yin/Yang
Chaos/Order

Cause/Effect refers to the before (past) and after (present).
Past = cause - immutable, unchanging...
Present = effect - mutating, changing, interacting - Flux.
Future = projection of objective - ideal.

Cause = Memory
Effect = Experience

_________________
γνῶθι σεαυτόν
μηδέν άγαν
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://satyr.canadian-forum.com/
Satyr
Daemon
avatar

Gender : Male Pisces Posts : 17016
Join date : 2009-08-24
Age : 52
Location : Flux

PostSubject: Re: Satyrnalium Mon Jun 25, 2018 5:26 pm

When we say the 'gods are with us' we mean the forces of nature.
Nihilists may create a short-lived memetic bubble, maintained with numbers and words, creating a small noetic enclosure, an echo chamber supported by psychological energies, emotions and desperation.
But how long can such a noetic construct continue without contradicting itself; without lying to itself?
All we have to do is wait.
These things go in cycles, of ascent and descent.
At its most powerful the noetic bubble reigns supreme, but it cannot endure.
Its effect wanes and it tries to adjust its lie, as more reality seeps through its convoluted self-referential cracks.

History of nihilism, from religious spirituality, to its more recent secular forms, has been a series of adjustments to incoming new insights into reality and natural processes.
Their sacred books are being rewritten, having been written with this in-mind.
Obscure, vague, convoluted....so as to be able to maintain a secret lie, as their core ideal.
One pretence is replaced with a new translation, words replacing outdated words.
The lie is concealed when is is revealed. Guilt and shame inhibiting a sharp glance from noticing.  
Reality baptized, renamed, incorporating newly revealed insights, into its steady, absolute, unifying hypocrisy.  
The masses running from one farm to another, when the weather destroys the barn they huddled within.
Slaves casting one master's metal chains aside to wear gold necklaces; breaking iron neck-collars to put on debt; cutting the noose to wear the suit and tie.
Physical bars replaced by mental ones.

They cannot see what is before them.
They refuse to acknowledge patterns.
Self-lobotomy, pretending to be self-respect.

_________________
γνῶθι σεαυτόν
μηδέν άγαν
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://satyr.canadian-forum.com/
Satyr
Daemon
avatar

Gender : Male Pisces Posts : 17016
Join date : 2009-08-24
Age : 52
Location : Flux

PostSubject: Re: Satyrnalium Mon Jun 25, 2018 7:38 pm

Most prefer to see the 'forest' and ignore the 'trees'.
The forest becomes a mass of uniformity, with no details, no distinguishing marks.
A concept.

Like the concept 'river'.
It can be used to apply to any and all liquid flows.

Like humanity.
An idea(l).


_________________
γνῶθι σεαυτόν
μηδέν άγαν
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://satyr.canadian-forum.com/
Satyr
Daemon
avatar

Gender : Male Pisces Posts : 17016
Join date : 2009-08-24
Age : 52
Location : Flux

PostSubject: Re: Satyrnalium Tue Jun 26, 2018 7:40 am

Nature/Nurture, within the framework of world = Past/Present/Future -
Determined/Real/Ideal
Object/Subject/Objective

Past is determining of potentials = nature.
Past is immutable. One can either know it, or reject it, but not negate it.
Past manifests as presence - present.
The consequence of knowing or rejecting, ignoring, is suffered by the individual.
Group intervenes to mitigate and adjust the cost/benefits = socioeconomic ideologies, politics.  
Intervenes upon natural processes - causality.

Present is the indeterminate dynamic = nurture.
Present cultivates potentials, or lets them atrophy. In the present limits are slightly exceeded, or slightly regressed.
Present is interpreted as appearance.
Appearance is the interpretation of the past made present.

Self/self/Ego

Ego = conscious self: 'I' - Will. Mind
self = birth to death = sum of all becoming, dynamic (inter)active, experiences/knowledge, memories - Nurture. Appearance, Action, Choice
Self = sum of all determining (inter)actions: DNA - Nature. Body

_________________
γνῶθι σεαυτόν
μηδέν άγαν
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://satyr.canadian-forum.com/
Satyr
Daemon
avatar

Gender : Male Pisces Posts : 17016
Join date : 2009-08-24
Age : 52
Location : Flux

PostSubject: Re: Satyrnalium Tue Jun 26, 2018 10:48 pm

There are two kinds of moral standards...one is based on genetics which then develops into social moral rules.
Having sex with your child, or parent, for example.
This produces unwanted mutations, which severely hampers the infants ability to survive independently.
This evolves into an antipathy towards sexual encounters with first-degree relatives.
If it is broken severe genetic mutations are produced.
A second example is violence against your own group, which severely inhibits cohesion and risks the survival of the entire group. This develops into moral rules against killing members of your in-group.
Even primates exhibit this unstated rule against murdering a member of your own group, for no reason.

The second standard is memetic.
This is governed by a collective goal...an ideal.
Depending on the ideal a behaviour is deemed undesirable or desirable, which is then enforced by calling it moral or immoral.
In the case of monogamy the goal is male-inclusion, and group stability...so social rules against intercourse with a 'taken' mate ensures in-group harmony.
Rules against adultery inhibit promiscuity, and in-group conflicts.

For the sake of clarity I will call the first morality (genetic), and the second ethics (memetic)

Best way to discern one from the other is to ask yourself:
If there were no rule of law, what behaviours would persist, and which would not, because they do not require human rules and laws?
We can even study how our primate relatives behave in the wild, especially chimpanzees.

Immediately we realize that adultery, as a prohibitive moral rule, is not one that would persist...since the human species is not monogamous.
Monogamy developed later. Without it civilization, as we know it, would be impossible.

The first moral law is enforced by nature....because it produces detrimental, to the offspring, genetic consequences.
The second ethical law, is enforced by men, with specific ideals and goals. The act itself is not immoral, in any spiritual universal sense, but it does risk the cohesion of the group, so it is unethical because it challenges the group's rules and threatens its survival.

Morality has to do with behaviours that challenge survival, or conflict with a group's chosen ideal.
The first is indisputable.
The second is relative to the environment.
For example, if a group's ideal is hedonism and another's is power, the environment will determine which ideal will dominate...which ideal will offer an advantage to the members that use it to govern their lives.
If one group idealized idiocy, for whatever reason, and another idealized intelligence, then both ideals are not equal. The environment determines which one will succeed and which one will fail.

It is also possible to place an ideal above survival.
This does not mean that all who place an ideal above survival are equally noble.
Again, the environment, nature, will determine which one offers an advantage and which one is detrimental to the individual's well-being.

For example, let's say a pedophile places his ideal of having sex with five-year-olds above survival. He is willing to risk his life to do it.
This is not the same as the one who places dignity and pride above survival and is willing to die than lose either.
Both create a kind of man....a certain attitude, demeanour....essence.

In man-made environments the system intervenes, sheltering the inferior from the consequences of his own errors in judgments or his inferior ideals.
It does so for its own reasons.
As a consequence, morons believe that all morals are equal, or that all morals are manmade, and that all subjective judgments are the same, are equal.

In the past there was no law against killing a mate that was caught cheating. This was changed, protecting all cheaters from the consequences of their indiscretions.

Rules against 'fucking your friend's wife' evolved in Aryan tribes where fellowship was a necessary aspect of a group's success. A male invested, genetically, in the welfare of the tribe would fight like a warrior to protect his investment in blood.
In the wild, if we take chimpanzees as our example, a kind of polygamy is practiced. the dominant male has his pick of the group's females, and the other males sneak in a sperm or two, once in a while, in secret.

_________________
γνῶθι σεαυτόν
μηδέν άγαν
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://satyr.canadian-forum.com/
Satyr
Daemon
avatar

Gender : Male Pisces Posts : 17016
Join date : 2009-08-24
Age : 52
Location : Flux

PostSubject: Re: Satyrnalium Wed Jun 27, 2018 5:35 pm

Paganism has been corrupted by its association of corrupting dogmas, such as those found among many Satanists. Devil worship is an inversion of the same monotheism dualism found in Abrahamism, yet it is now referred to as ‘paganism’ because it uses the hexagon and declares itself so. Asian occultism is mixed in to ruin Olympian nectar.
The product is, almost always, gaudy and insincere. A performance the participants themselves do not fully believe in, aping gestures and rituals, parroting mantras.
The source goes back to Nihilism, and the power the cult of victimhood leads to.
At some point victimhood, meekness, gains so much power and influence over the masses that it begins to contradict itself.
We see hints of this in the Christian churches, and clergy who as representatives of ‘God’ are supposed to serve the poor and the downtrodden, adorning themselves with gold and living opulent lifestyles of comfort and privilege.
Marxism experienced a similar dissonance when it rose to power. Suddenly the 'leaders of the proletariat' had access to lavish lifestyles they became addicted to – amassing wealth by selling revolution to the impoverished. This is also called the Jewish Paradox.
Which brings me to the present state of affairs.
Power built on victimhood begins to contradict itself – it must lie to hide this conflict. At the same time what was once threatening, like Tribalism, Paternalism, Nature, becomes a new awakening, a new ideology.
To put it another way…
Nihilism detaches the mind from the body, the ideal from the real, and if this becomes popular and gains privileges and wealth, it seeks a return to the past it had detached from, but this time with newfound power.
Its victimhood makes it powerful enough to victimize. It suddenly realizes that it cannot prolong its hypocrisy, so it involves itself in the gradual reaffirmation of what it once despised.
But too much time has passed and the continuity has been broken. So it adopts the superficial disguise of paganism and tribalism, putting on gaudy shows, and lavish symbolic displays of its reawakening.
The slaves rise to the throne and hold control of the empire that enslaved them, and they begin acting like the masters they dethroned – wearing their clothes, eating their food, performing their rituals with such vindictive gusto that they go over the top. Exaggeration exposes their past.
Their words become hyperboles; ridiculous attempts to compensate for what they truly are. They wear the mask of the master they tore off his skull when all they wanted was to free themselves. But it does not fit well. They cannot pull it off. They can only convince the masses, the mediocre, and the average. But that’s enough, for them. They’ve always been about associating with the lowliest and the inferior, building strength on weakness, and pretending gnosis by exploiting ignorance.
Paganism is readopted but by those who worshipped the mono-god of their slavery: the emancipating redeemer, the messianic vengeful god of Abraham.
How can they now return to the gods they denounced, without exposing their hypocrisy?
The US, for example wears the symbols of Pax Romana, but the performance is so poor that it can only fool the simpletons. Its elites participate in secret organizations where they gather in secret locations to go through the rituals that imitate what was lost when they destroyed it as they rose to power.
They change their names to fit in, but they cannot change their spirit. They mate with the master's women to assimilate, to appear the same as those they hate, but the memories are never lost.
They use base races to destroy what they can never be – diluting blood that does not run through their veins; learning the master’s ways, hoping to be like him.
They are aliens wearing a crown that does not quit fit... and they look ridiculous when they try.
They call themselves 'illuminated' but they cannot escape the darkness they rose from.

_________________
γνῶθι σεαυτόν
μηδέν άγαν
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://satyr.canadian-forum.com/
Satyr
Daemon
avatar

Gender : Male Pisces Posts : 17016
Join date : 2009-08-24
Age : 52
Location : Flux

PostSubject: Re: Satyrnalium Thu Jun 28, 2018 9:40 am



Genetic/Memetic filters, hijacked to serve a new master.
The dis-ease corrupts the filtering, through the mind....as it only exists as a mental, noetic, construct - noumenon with no reference to phenomena.

_________________
γνῶθι σεαυτόν
μηδέν άγαν
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://satyr.canadian-forum.com/
Satyr
Daemon
avatar

Gender : Male Pisces Posts : 17016
Join date : 2009-08-24
Age : 52
Location : Flux

PostSubject: Re: Satyrnalium Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:44 am



Women 'despise' Paternalism but then feel its absence when it is no longer present.
They look for a cult, or indulge in this role playing kinky shit, Rogan speaks about.

This is the gene/meme conflict manifesting as sexual fantasy - fetishism.

_________________
γνῶθι σεαυτόν
μηδέν άγαν
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://satyr.canadian-forum.com/
Satyr
Daemon
avatar

Gender : Male Pisces Posts : 17016
Join date : 2009-08-24
Age : 52
Location : Flux

PostSubject: Re: Satyrnalium Fri Jun 29, 2018 2:11 pm

Our gods will not abandon us.
If we do not heal ourselves from this virus, this disease, they will takes us to Hades, where we will forget.

_________________
γνῶθι σεαυτόν
μηδέν άγαν
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://satyr.canadian-forum.com/
Satyr
Daemon
avatar

Gender : Male Pisces Posts : 17016
Join date : 2009-08-24
Age : 52
Location : Flux

PostSubject: Re: Satyrnalium Tue Jul 03, 2018 10:48 am




Guess what "born in NY" is code for.
The 'revolutionary spirit', as Jones calls it, is Nihilism.
Rebellion against reality, against the past...against natural order...a one-god symbol of rebellion against the gods.  
A revolution of words, because one cannot truly rebel against reality, but only lie about it, pretend he is free.

I've called it 'inverting'....noetic overturning.
Noumena usurping phenomena - ideal usurping the real - ideology.  

Communists are now renamed, as are Abrahamics in all their forms.

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] identified as Catholic, as was JFK.

_________________
γνῶθι σεαυτόν
μηδέν άγαν
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://satyr.canadian-forum.com/
Satyr
Daemon
avatar

Gender : Male Pisces Posts : 17016
Join date : 2009-08-24
Age : 52
Location : Flux

PostSubject: Re: Satyrnalium Wed Jul 04, 2018 10:23 am

The all or nothing, is the either/or binary logic of the simpleton...the nihilist.
Such a create assumes that if you agree with an individual's insight, in one area, that you must also agree with all his insights, or that you also accept his conclusion, his judgment of this insight.

_________________
γνῶθι σεαυτόν
μηδέν άγαν
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://satyr.canadian-forum.com/
Satyr
Daemon
avatar

Gender : Male Pisces Posts : 17016
Join date : 2009-08-24
Age : 52
Location : Flux

PostSubject: Re: Satyrnalium Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:37 pm

Animals do not sit around debating the morality of a choice, nor if it is good or bad.
They convert judgments to actions - their evaluations never remain theoretical.

Only man, who can shelter himself within a group, like no other species can, and who can fabricate and project theoretical actions, or construct theories that have nothing to do with the experienced world, can be come perplexed by their own noetic constructs, externalized in semiotics.
Only man can confuse himself because he can externalize abstractions in the form of symbols/words, or project theories in a theoretical beyond, or a forever coming future. only man can intentionally entrap himself in noetic constructs, using language to convince himself either that he is god-like, or that the world is an illusion, that it is irrelevant.

Every organism judges world and itself in relation to it, and then faces the consequences, but only man can cocoon himself in a social womb living out his life in isolation and in comfortable delusion, protected by the group.  
Democracy enforces communal sharing of burdens and then is confused by the false parity this produces, to the point where he demands ti as his 'right'.
Without it there would be no debate.
Right or wrong, every individual would suffer the costs, or enjoy the benefits of his judgment.
There would be no debate over the 'morality' of abortion, or euthanasia....because there would be no communal sharing that demands others are convinced to share the burden of an error in judgment.
It would not matter to anyone, other than those involved, if a underage female got an abortion, or if someone believed race was a social construct.
The consequences would be immediate and indisputable. Even the attempt to blame others would only harm the idiot who failed to acknowledge his, or her own culpability.
Post-modern liberals, or nihilists, want to share the costs and the benefits....fearing more the costs of their won idiocy, and naive idealism.
This is why they insist on socialism and sharing of costs, so as to evade the consequences of their own stupidity - they sell ti as an feel-good egalitarianism of parity and belonging and love, when all it is is a intuitive anxiety, a secret fear, concerning their own quality of mind and the feeble judgment it produces.
Moral dilemmas are, for them, a way of convincing others to share the byproducts of their mental feebleness.  
They do so by shaming, using altruism, or by convincing others that their judgments are worthless, offering the only solution: communal judgment - communism.

They want to be 'free' from consequences, from the past - free to be carefree sluts and careless adolescents, and then for the system, the community to pay for the consequences, either as welfare or by providing free abortions.
They want to experiment with their bodies, taking drugs, fornicating using other orifices, indulging in child-like exploratory behaviour, and then they demand others stand by to save them, or to pay for it all.
They want to absolve themselves of poor genes, and an inherited inferior mind, by using guilt to impose upon others  an obligation to protect them, furthering the illusion of equality.  
Their own insecurity they want to unload on others.

_________________
γνῶθι σεαυτόν
μηδέν άγαν
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://satyr.canadian-forum.com/
Satyr
Daemon
avatar

Gender : Male Pisces Posts : 17016
Join date : 2009-08-24
Age : 52
Location : Flux

PostSubject: Re: Satyrnalium Fri Jul 06, 2018 5:12 pm

The essence of morality is revealed in the manner in which it is applied.
For most there are a set of moral values to be applied internally, and another set of moral principles when dealing with the world outside the social unity.

Nihilism goes a step further, being entirely disconnected from reality, in one degree or another. It contradicts its own principles and then fabricates excuses, or ignores the fact.
With Christians, for example, they have set-up the perpetual excuse of primordial sin, allowing them to live in accordance to natural laws, throughout the week, and then on the last make amends and beg for forgiveness.
In this way the internal is harmonized with an external world which remains indifferent to human delusions and methods of escapism and self-comforting.
The ideal is continuously contradicted, in relation to the real, and then affirmed, in an act of contrition.
The ideal is pure, a noetic abstraction considered sacred, struggling to remain pure within the 'evil' real world.
Schizophrenia.
Mind is Divine God, and body is the Devil that seduces and leads the mind astray.

_________________
γνῶθι σεαυτόν
μηδέν άγαν
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://satyr.canadian-forum.com/
Satyr
Daemon
avatar

Gender : Male Pisces Posts : 17016
Join date : 2009-08-24
Age : 52
Location : Flux

PostSubject: Re: Satyrnalium Fri Jul 06, 2018 5:17 pm

One has to marvel at the level of idiocy displayed by moderns.
From where do they think 'morals' came from?
From God?
Did some proto-humans invent them, and then force them upon thousands of generations afterwards?
Why are there common principles in all moral systems, like altruism, compassion, tolerance, love?

Did god create love, or did man invent it out of the ether?
Their desperate need defines words in ways that mystify them...like the word 'love'. Then they are baffled by their own self-deceit.
The define the word in an supernatural, surreal, way and then are heartbroken when they never find it - some intentionally do so, so that they can excuse themselves from failing to find it.
A coward spends a lifetime looking for a concept he's defined, or accepted a definition, making it unreal....and then, because he has failed to find his own fabrication, he wants to infect others with his own delusion so they do not find it either - a last cowardly act of retribution against a world he could not accept, or understand.

Have they no intellectual integrity, or are they that stupid?
Evolution is enough.
Survival of the fittest applies to ideas, theories, morals, ideologies....scientific methodology practices it.

From genes to memes.

Sheltering warps the outcome, convincing the imbecile that his judgment is no different than that of a genius...because he demands to be protected form his own poor judgment - he considers it his 'right' to remain as stupid as he likes, until death finally takes him away.
He is, often, a socials advocate, because he knows that within sharing the costs of his bad judgments, he will surely die sooner, rather than later.
So, in love with his life, he is, that he would rather sacrifice integrity than risk death.

_________________
γνῶθι σεαυτόν
μηδέν άγαν
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://satyr.canadian-forum.com/
Satyr
Daemon
avatar

Gender : Male Pisces Posts : 17016
Join date : 2009-08-24
Age : 52
Location : Flux

PostSubject: Re: Satyrnalium Fri Jul 06, 2018 5:41 pm

Ideals that are contradicted by the real world are harder to remain loyal to.
Those few who reportedly managed to do so, for more than a few decades, or during the last part of their lives, we call saints.
Most of those so-called 'saints' are sanctified after death, when memory selectively recalls, and the individual himself is not present to contradict the narratives that have been built around his name.
To some degree this is also rue of all famous men and women, from pop-idols, to philosophers.
After death their legacy is purified, idealized, and used to promote a fable around their supposed exploits and writings.
This is easier if the individual remained obscure and mysterious, during his lifetime.
Gaps in knowledge allow worshippers to fill them in with their own fantasies.

_________________
γνῶθι σεαυτόν
μηδέν άγαν
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://satyr.canadian-forum.com/
Satyr
Daemon
avatar

Gender : Male Pisces Posts : 17016
Join date : 2009-08-24
Age : 52
Location : Flux

PostSubject: Re: Satyrnalium Fri Jul 06, 2018 5:50 pm

What is reduced to a noumenon, an abstraction, whether it be by detaching it from the world of phenomenon, or if it is purified after death, is always malleable.
After death a man can be vilified, or sanctified, his presence unable to contradict this narrative.

Like a word can be vilified or sanctified, by simply disconnecting it from its reference to a real world phenomenon.
This does not change the real, it only affects the believer, in a positive or a negative way. It's psychological.

Abrahamics projected their god in a 'beyond' or refused to depict him, or even utter his name, fearing this reduction of the noetic to a phenomenon, like a spoken word, or an image, would 'dirty' the idea itself.
Muslims refuse to portray their Abrahamic god, and so do the Jews.
Only the Christians, influenced by Hellenism, and after much bloodshed, portray the one God, dividing him in three to protect the divine from wordy corruption.

_________________
γνῶθι σεαυτόν
μηδέν άγαν
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://satyr.canadian-forum.com/
Satyr
Daemon
avatar

Gender : Male Pisces Posts : 17016
Join date : 2009-08-24
Age : 52
Location : Flux

PostSubject: Re: Satyrnalium Fri Jul 06, 2018 6:13 pm

Moderns think they are over Abrahamism....that they've surpassed its fairy-tale storylines and symbolism, but they are not.
They've secularized it.

They still believe man holds a distinct place in existence, and that anything that has to do with the human must be the product of a conscious mind. If not god, then man himself.
This reaches the level of insanity, as it has with post-modernity. It is the 'logic' of Abrahamism pushed to its limit.
If not God, then man, or men....imposing, by force, what they invented. Liberation, then, becomes a matter of breaking free from these imposed artifices...and become your own god.
Man as creator of himself.
Some, less confident ones, cannot deal with the pressure and the responsibility of what this implies so they want the community to decide for them: outsourcing their godly creativity.
But, at the root they all believe the same thing.
If not a one God, Divine Consciousness, then Man himself, or Mankind as part of a communal project inventing reality, creating the world.

_________________
γνῶθι σεαυτόν
μηδέν άγαν
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://satyr.canadian-forum.com/
Satyr
Daemon
avatar

Gender : Male Pisces Posts : 17016
Join date : 2009-08-24
Age : 52
Location : Flux

PostSubject: Re: Satyrnalium Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:36 pm

For post-modern Marxists nature is authoritarian, and fascistic.
They cannot hate a faceless entity so they have to personify it, anthropomorphize it.
So, most are attracted to Abrahamism, trying to cozy-up to the faceless power they are confronted and threatened by.
But then this Abrahamic construct proves to be just as authoritarian, so they rebel.
Nihilism is, essentially, a rebellion against natural order.  
Then they become individualists, declaring themselves a supreme authority, believing that by conviction alone they can liberate themselves from all external authorities...for faceless and those with faces. This is called 'subjectivity'.
That proves to be ineffective, and naive....some begin blaming nameless, faceless forces, or they flee into the collective, where they can manipulate by playing the victim, or by practicing reciprocity....mutual concessions. As if the collective can change the world just by collectively believing.
A few become pure nihilists, but they do not wish to go to death alone, but wish they can take the world with them.

Essentially they need a mind, a face to accuse, or seduce, or beg, or bargain with.
They need a consciousness.

The idea of a faceless unconscious authority, like nature, terrifies them most of all.
Who can they accuse and blame then, other than themselves?
Who can they grovel to, who can they beg for mercy and 'fairness', and justice?
From who can they demand their 'rights', on humanitarian grounds?

The Moderns needs someone other than themselves, to unload what burdens and shames the self.
They go so far as to deny 'self' an existence, defining the concept in ways that makes it absurd, then rejecting all rational definitions as being equally linguistic contraptions.
They do this with all concepts they wish to 'erase' from their consciousness, and in the collective-consciousness of the group they wish to be protected by, by immersing themselves into its uniform warmness, its all-embracing humanness.

_________________
γνῶθι σεαυτόν
μηδέν άγαν
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://satyr.canadian-forum.com/
Sponsored content




PostSubject: Re: Satyrnalium

Back to top Go down
 
Satyrnalium
View previous topic View next topic Back to top 
Page 29 of 29Go to page : Previous  1 ... 16 ... 27, 28, 29
 Similar topics
-
» Satyrnalium

Permissions in this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
Know Thyself :: AGORA-
Jump to: