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PostSubject: Modern psychology - a joke? Wed Jul 08, 2015 2:30 pm

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Antisocial (or dissocial) personality disorder is characterized by a pervasive pattern of disregard for, or violation of, the rights of others. There may be an impoverished moral sense or conscience and a history of crime, legal problems, and impulsive and aggressive behavior.

The same definition is used in the DSM.

A psychology, a science, uses the contingent social construct of 'rights' as a basis for a diagnosis of a personality disorder. This implies that whatever the current, mainstream society regards as right and wrong, and thus bases the concept of rights on, is always correct and on the basis of this social construct certain behaviors are to be judged as having a sick, unfit biological basis.

Let's say I live in Sweden, and Sweden decides that it is the right of immigrants to rape Swedish women. So if I disregard their right to do that, and stop them, I am antisocial and have a personality disorder?
If the movie Braveheart is to be trusted as somewhat historically accurate, did not the English noblemen claim to have a similar right?

How is this definition not a total joke, when you can have a personality disorder one moment, and the next moment, when the law changes, you're suddenly all healthy? Shouldn't sciences base their diagnoses on something more resistant to change, more rigid, than simply whatever are the social norms and laws of the current society?
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PostSubject: Re: Modern psychology - a joke? Wed Jul 08, 2015 9:13 pm

Aren't most psychology students/graduates female today?
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PostSubject: Re: Modern psychology - a joke? Fri Jul 10, 2015 11:32 am

Mind-Body Dualism.
Either/or.
Is the mind distinct from the body or is the mind bodily processes?

Modern social sciences are based on ideal-monism.
The mind is unaffected by physical reality, it is distinct from its body.
Therefore to measure health is to define it as following the current social laws and conventions.
The fight against traditionalism is about this severing of the mind from the body.

Traditionalism is about building on the past and the manifestation of the past is the body and its inherited potential.
To master ones' destiny, not to deny it.
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PostSubject: Re: Modern psychology - a joke? Fri Jul 10, 2015 11:36 am

Totalitarianism is about mind-control.
You are what Big Brother says you are.
No reality outside the commandments.
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PostSubject: Re: Modern psychology - a joke? Fri Jul 10, 2015 12:31 pm

Yes, to a degree. All of the social sciences have been infected with the same Marxist Nihilist ethic from Sociology and Anthropology to Psychology.

Using sociality as the standard by which health is determined effectively allows emotion and cohesion to be placed above logic and reason, undermining all intellectual endeavours if they refuse to wholeheartedly engage in modern social norms. One can imagine biologists being diagnosed in this fashion for their inability to produce egalitarian, all-inclusive models.

Other major problems exist such as the democratic means by which psychological disorders are agreed upon. Not scientific, being based upon rigourous interpretation of replicable data, but rather democratic, a popular vote amongst 12 leading psychologists. The most obvious example is homosexuality, which was taken out of the DSM due to pressures of a political nature and not due to any sound evidence.

Psychologists also refer to chemical imbalances on a purely theoretical level without any way of actually measuring them. Then they prescribe medication based on these whimsical evaluations.

No coincidence that women are the majority of students/graduates in this field as is the case with almost all fields which are politically charged ('please tell me how to think..'). Basically anything which propagates and facilitates hive-minded docility and mindless functionality is exalted as science whether or not it bears any relation to observable reality.

A great example posted (by Lyssa I think?) elsewhere in the forum. Compare and contrast:

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PostSubject: Re: Modern psychology - a joke? Fri Jul 10, 2015 12:54 pm

Just to clarify I do believe the designations are useful as templates. But they have to be juxtaposed against reality and scanned for traces of modern communitarian trends. Another criticism is that many of the disorders have overlapping boundaries making acute distinctions very difficult to attain.
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PostSubject: Re: Modern psychology - a joke? Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:04 pm

Skimming through those two takes on Group Selection, I am thinking that the group must establish and maintain itself dynamically.
What does the 'altruistic' person call his/her group?
Groups form and they also split up into sub-groups and so on. It's individuals who are participating in those processes.

Sympathy can develop just as well as resentment which becomes ressentiment if the individual isn't able to split or leave a circle for some reason (external and internal).

All besides that I don't like the term altruism because it implies some sort of selflessness, which is a strange idea to begin with because what did those people do to not be them-selves? Just because I help someone else doesn't mean that it's a selfless act. Making it into a virtue is even more confusing. Suddenly being self-less (whatever that means*) is a good thing.

*Less conscious perhaps?
Less self-aware...
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PostSubject: Re: Modern psychology - a joke? Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:59 pm

Anfang wrote:
*Less conscious perhaps?
Less self-aware...

Yes it would seems so: unthinking, automatic, totally accepting of ones expendable existence for some nebulous higher principle.
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PostSubject: Re: Modern psychology - a joke? Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:18 pm

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Uh oh, Dr. Shlomo says masculinity is bad.

EDIT: Haha, this is just too good. A fat sheboon and two white skanks will tell us all about how masculinity is harmful.

Check out the first page of the document, too. It's precious. Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: Modern psychology - a joke? Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:50 pm

when whites do it its toxic masculinity, when niggers do it its mystic primality
OK, BOSS lol! lol! lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Modern psychology - a joke? Tue Jan 15, 2019 6:38 pm

Notice also how instead of identifying these various made-up genders and orientations as mental disorders, they accept them as reality.

Instead of curing these diseases, they perpetuate them while working on exterminating the last bits of healthy masculine behavior in society.
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PostSubject: Re: Modern psychology - a joke? Tue Jan 15, 2019 6:48 pm



It'll get worse.
We haven't hit rock-bottom yet.
The end will come when this dis-ese begins showing symptoms so that even a moron, a retard, finally sees.
It will be right before the collapse of the system that birthed it.

The virus cycle ends when the infected host dies, and the virus returns to its original crystalline state....awaiting a new host.

This memetic virus, carried by a specific parasite, will return to its original form: as words on a page, tucked away in some library....awaiting a vulnerable, desperate weakling to come along and read the text....beginning the cycle.

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PostSubject: Re: Modern psychology - a joke? Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:43 pm

Satyr wrote:
The virus cycle ends when the infected host dies, and the virus returns to its original crystalline state....awaiting a new host.

This memetic virus, carried by a specific parasite, will return to its original form: as words on a page, tucked away in some library....awaiting a vulnerable, desperate weakling to come along and read the text....beginning the cycle.

Many such stories; Pandora's box, reading 'forbidden literature', 'speaking and thus unleashing a great evil'.
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PostSubject: Re: Modern psychology - a joke? Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:47 pm

Yes...the metaphors refer to real phenomena.
But not always directly and clearly.

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PostSubject: Re: Modern psychology - a joke? Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:41 pm

Satyr wrote:
This memetic virus, carried by a specific parasite, will return to its original form: as words on a page, tucked away in some library....awaiting a vulnerable, desperate weakling to come along and read the text....beginning the cycle

The virus is genetic though.

Even if you destroy all memes containing the virus, instead of tucking them away in a library, a weakling would eventually create almost the same memes.

The only solution is eternal vigilance.
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PostSubject: Re: Modern psychology - a joke? Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:07 pm

True.

Agon....life is war.

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PostSubject: Re: Modern psychology - a joke? Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:15 pm

There is no ability to disconnect the possible confusion of the ideal and real unless one wants to nihilistically disconnect the ideal from everything real, or everything real from the ideal (making it a spandrel of evolution that, when utilized with reason, would otherwise give some competitive benefit).
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PostSubject: Re: Modern psychology - a joke? Thu Jan 17, 2019 8:13 pm

The system creates an environment in which healthy expressions of masculinity are outlawed and socially stigmatized, especially in specific environments. As a result, some men get depressed and start having psychological issues. Instead of pointing out the problems at the systematic level which are causing this and attempting to fix them, psychologists just give these men drugs to turn them into apathetic pussies. They don't solve the problem, they drug the men into accepting their situation or even try to brainwash them to start liking it. Getting to the actual cause and addressing it would require questioning the system itself and thinking outside of the box, and they're not interested in doing that because their goal isn't to help anybody. Their goal is to preserve the system which they are a part of. Most of the "psychologist" clowns barely possess a higher level of awareness than their patients.
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