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PostSubject: Re: A Wake-up Call Wed Aug 05, 2015 2:20 am

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PostSubject: Re: A Wake-up Call Wed Aug 05, 2015 11:26 am

I forgot li'l Erik gets appreciation for one video and that means it locked forever for anything else he does from then on... its not like, anybody could be totally unemotional and indept. abt. what they are saying. Image matters to him, and so he thinks it matters to everybody else,,, typically pathetic.

Yea, I am a wannabe in front of Perpetual... whatever.

Meanwhile, nooooooooo, Jihad is a f----ed up shitty concept that is Totally embedded in semitic history. Knowledge is abt. Increased discrimination, not all-inclusive lcds in the name of poetic license, such that we conclude because Vikings eat food, and Pygmies eat food,,, Vikings and Pygmies are the same!

Noooo. And Never.

Anyways. An 'equivalent' to Jihad in the I.E. culture would amount to Maintaining your form in the sense of never forgetting your niche. Who you are, where you come from, what you owe your ancestors requires a constant Remembrance. A Mindfulness.

Jihad is basically to maintain your structure... the com-position of your soul in constant remembrance of what it is, where it is, and its duty... and never deviating from this.

Heidegger called such Remembrance "sorge".

In Sanskrit, such a remembrance is called "smaran" parallel to the Greek verbal conjugation of "Mnemosyne". In Buddhist Pali, it is "samadhi" - the 8 path is the very discipline to such perfect self com-position.

Among the Anglo-Irish and Nordic, the word "wyrd" covered notions of "worth" from self to universal destiny, literally re-Membering yourself to the primordial "orlog".

Some culture memes cannot and should not be translated. Find your own roots.

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PostSubject: Re: A Wake-up Call Wed Aug 05, 2015 11:36 am

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Glory-porn; like that American Psycho character who filmed himself in full ''glory'' fucking a prostitue from behind and making poses while doing so?

Tony's hypermasculine display in scarface and the suicide bombers have something in common - the fetishizing of a "cause" or in the name of a "cause", your glory turns graphic.

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PostSubject: Re: A Wake-up Call Wed Aug 05, 2015 11:41 am

Sacredness stretched to a limit, turns on its own limit and becomes profane.

This is what Baudrillard was talking about when he said how things become porn-ish when pushed to the limit... everything becomes an orgy;

Baudrillard wrote:
""Ecstasy of the social: the masses. More social than the social.
Ecstasy of the body: obesity. Fatter than fat.
Ecstasy of information: simulation. Truer than true.
Ecstasy of time: real time, instantaneity. More present than the present.
Ecstasy of the real: the hyperreal. More real than the real.
Ecstasy of sex: porn. More sexual than sex.
Ecstasy of violence: terror. More violent than violence. . . .

All this describes, by a kind of potentiation, a raising to the second power, a pushing to the limit, a state of unconditional realization, of total positivity (every negative sign raised to the second power produces a positive), from which all utopia, all death, and all negativity have been expunged. A state of ex-termination, cleansing of the negative, as corollary to all the other actual forms of purification and discrimination. Thus, freedom has been obliterated, liquidated by liberation; truth has been supplanted by verification; the community has been liquidated and absorbed by communication; form gives way to information and performance. Everywhere we see a paradoxical logic: the idea is destroyed by its own realization, by its own excess. And in this way history itself comes to an end, finds itself obliterated by the instantaneity and omnipresence of the event." [Vital Illusion]

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PostSubject: Re: A Wake-up Call Wed Aug 05, 2015 11:54 am

The word vigil meaning Wake or Awakened state has its roots in the word "vigour", "vitality", memory...

"to become awake," a Middle English merger of Old English wacan "to become awake, arise, be born, originate," and Old English wacian "to be or remain awake," both from Proto-Germanic *waken (cognates: Old Saxon wakon, Old Norse vaka, Danish vaage, Old Frisian waka, Dutch waken, Old High German wahhen, German wachen "to be awake," Gothic wakan "to watch"), from PIE root *weg- (2) "to be strong, be lively" (cognates: Sanskrit vajah "force, strength; swiftness, speed," vajayati "drives on;" Latin vigil "watchful, awake," vigere "be lively, thrive," velox "fast, lively," vegere "to enliven;" vigil "awake, wakeful," vigor "liveliness, activity"). Causative sense "to rouse from sleep" is attested from c. 1300. Related: Waked; waking.

Maintaining structure is a perpetual vigilance, a state of ever-vital, mind-full-ness.


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PostSubject: Re: A Wake-up Call Wed Aug 05, 2015 12:28 pm

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He's after heroism, not release, is my understanding.
He needs that.

First you start off by stating that I'm after heroism, not release - then, all of a sudden, you switch to claiming that I am just after release, just after "glory-porn". You did this for reasons I already stated.


ADD.

I said he's after heroism... and then his idea of heroism is like that of Tony and the Cartels.

The Hedonist is always quick to assume the positive and self-flattering in everything.

The one who is still twaddling in between pleasure and pain needs to work on that before leaping to caverns and mountains.

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PostSubject: Re: A Wake-up Call Wed Aug 05, 2015 1:09 pm

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The White race is being systematically assaulted genetically and memetically, and you guys are merely content with talking. Like I said, this forum is great; but more can be done.

Like what? Be specific.
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PostSubject: Re: A Wake-up Call Wed Aug 05, 2015 1:21 pm

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Lys; you're f-cked.

He wishes.

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You were claiming I was after heroism, a heroism distinct from that of what the American military and French foreign legion have to offer, a heroism that has a higher purpose.

And he shows what that Tonyesque higher purpose is:

"Are you guys void of passion? Where is your thymos? If people were to break into your homes and assault your family, would you just sit in a corner and intellectualize it, or would you pick up a sword and kill?

You guys are emotionally dead, empty; unable to feel strong passions."

Its Tony's glory-porn.

The mindless splattering of bullets in all direction and killing yourself in a blaze of glory as a consequence of your stupidity and poor-assessment of your enemy and your environment is called being "passionate and heroic".

Has anything changed since those white rebels shot and opened fire at govt. institutions or churches or whatever?
Their going to prison only raised awareness its not individuals who must be killed, but ideas that need to be overpowered and dismantled.

Building is as Thymotic as destroying... the only enemy is ignorance.. and even there, not everybody should be awakened.
The best heroism in some respects is to let the many carry on exactly as they are.

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PostSubject: Re: A Wake-up Call Wed Aug 05, 2015 1:28 pm

That church shooter did change something which had not yet been propagated as evil in White consciousness - I am curious how it will go with all this pressuring on the Southerners to take down their flag and heritage; how much they take of mob violence for presenting their flag in their front yards.
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PostSubject: Re: A Wake-up Call Wed Aug 05, 2015 2:01 pm

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perpetualburn wrote:
Nightmare wrote:

The White race is being systematically assaulted genetically and memetically, and you guys are merely content with talking. Like I said, this forum is great; but more can be done.

Like what?  Be specific.

Create youtube channels, leave pamphlets places, make documentaries, speak at lectures, and other things, which I'm sure you already know by now, things I can't say in public or else heat will be drawn here.

We're not afraid of the heat. Go forth. But send only your best self.

Don't pretend like you're protecting anyone here.
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PostSubject: Re: A Wake-up Call Wed Aug 05, 2015 2:07 pm

I can agree on the pamphlets though; initially that was why I bought my printer which I haven't used beside for a few lyrics and plane tickets.
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PostSubject: Re: A Wake-up Call Wed Aug 05, 2015 2:14 pm

I tried to set up an interview between Greg Johnson [counter-currents] and Satyr.. and sent him one of Satyr's books from the scribd links; we talked a couple of times, but then he didn't get back.
(Arktos publishers said they had a backlog with other issues they wanted to cover.)

It would be better if someone else asked/introduced him or counter-currents to WLNO for the second time, else it would look like I'm the only one.

Its the most widely-covering and balanced decent journal out there now.

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PostSubject: Re: A Wake-up Call Wed Aug 05, 2015 2:23 pm

Handing out pamphlets and speaking in public isn't a bad a idea necessarily. It's just that the standards to be received well are so high now. There are a lot of very clever people that can spin what you say and make a mockery of you. You have to be able to speak almost artistically but clearly and honestly. To be able to speak the truth without it coming out flat and dead (like David Duke).
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PostSubject: Re: A Wake-up Call Wed Aug 05, 2015 2:27 pm

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That church shooter did change something which had not yet been propagated as evil in White consciousness - I am curious how it will go with all this pressuring on the Southerners to take down their flag and heritage; how much they take of mob violence for presenting their flag in their front yards.

A shared identity already has volume... and here the fight is to even make someone conscious of their real identity.

So far all the ones who have committed violence have been for the wrong reasons - mostly Xt. reactionaries angered against modernity, nwo, etc.
I think the "werewolf" who hasn't yet adapted into the system is like Satyr describes only intuitively aware that something is wrong and off, but still doesnt know what it is. Like a fever he needs to unleash to cleanse himself more than anything.

The irony is, any government representation like one of those senators who contested against "jewish evil" would naturally be ignored as red neck quacks; there's more legitimacy when a common individual does it.

But stupid violence and getting innocents injured is not the answer... not even what we should stand for.


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PostSubject: Re: A Wake-up Call Wed Aug 05, 2015 2:28 pm

When I was in Wales I gave some ''speeches'' of my writings (which reflect Satyr in regards to memetic culling who introduced me to it) and that of Satyr himself. They liked it very much, though you have to be able to orate, passion in expression.
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PostSubject: Re: A Wake-up Call Wed Aug 05, 2015 2:41 pm

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OhFortunae wrote:
That church shooter did change something which had not yet been propagated as evil in White consciousness - I am curious how it will go with all this pressuring on the Southerners to take down their flag and heritage; how much they take of mob violence for presenting their flag in their front yards.

A shared identity already has volume... and here the fight is to even make someone conscious of their real identity.

So far all the ones who have committed violence have been for the wrong reasons - mostly Xt. reactionaries angered against modernity, nwo, etc.
I think the "werewolf" who hasn't yet adapted into the system is like Satyr describes only intuitively aware that something is wrong and off, but still doesnt know what it is. Like a fever he needs to unleash to cleanse himself more than anything.

The irony is, any government representation like one of those senators who contested against "jewish evil" would naturally be ignored as red neck quacks; there's more legitimacy when a common individual does it.

But stupid violence and getting innocents injured is not the answer... not even what we should stand for.


What to do but make people gradually aware - to (spontaneously) lecture and leave pamphlets, I agree with. Once you go violent you will attract a lot of people but also leave behind censorship and those who cannot see beyond their goodness, who would have had potential, turn their backs on you; I don't believe that much in innocence though.
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PostSubject: Re: A Wake-up Call Wed Aug 05, 2015 2:45 pm

The best thing to do is to leave behind the seeds to grow and leave them to stay as they are for those who cannot grasp (have no fertile earth), and at the same time distance yourself as much as you can from societal dependency like Varg. The sword has no fertility in our age yet.
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PostSubject: Re: A Wake-up Call Wed Aug 05, 2015 2:50 pm

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Lyssa wrote:
OhFortunae wrote:
That church shooter did change something which had not yet been propagated as evil in White consciousness - I am curious how it will go with all this pressuring on the Southerners to take down their flag and heritage; how much they take of mob violence for presenting their flag in their front yards.

A shared identity already has volume... and here the fight is to even make someone conscious of their real identity.

So far all the ones who have committed violence have been for the wrong reasons - mostly Xt. reactionaries angered against modernity, nwo, etc.
I think the "werewolf" who hasn't yet adapted into the system is like Satyr describes only intuitively aware that something is wrong and off, but still doesnt know what it is. Like a fever he needs to unleash to cleanse himself more than anything.

The irony is, any government representation like one of those senators who contested against "jewish evil" would naturally be ignored as red neck quacks; there's more legitimacy when a common individual does it.

But stupid violence and getting innocents injured is not the answer... not even what we should stand for.


What to do but make people gradually aware - to (spontaneously) lecture and leave pamphlets, I agree with. Once you go violent you will attract a lot of people but also leave behind censorship and those who cannot see beyond their goodness, who would have had potential, turn their backs on you; I don't believe that much in innocence though.

For every church that is burned down, there'll be 10 more that will quickly get funded and set up. That's why its called the Culture of Victims. Its making things worse.

And li'l Erik here finds intellectual efforts feeble, but what do you wake people upto without any substance? What do you have to show them? Years of customs, traditions, wisdom, proverbial and otherwise, and religious and other cultural aesthetics have to be recovered... you have no edifice without it.

Heroic generations may need to be preceeded by very silent ones... but doesnt mean we are lacking in passion or rage. Its sublime.

As for innocence, killing a Jew or Xt. individual does nothing and involves no big deal, a piece of blunt brutality; killing a J.-Xt. mindset needs more sophistry... transforming a j.-Xt. mindset, even more artistry.

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PostSubject: Re: A Wake-up Call Wed Aug 05, 2015 2:58 pm

I agree on all of it; but I don't like the word ''innocence'' to much even though most people are essentially what they are. It just baffles me that things have gotten to this point with almost no resistance.

The only thing I hope to do is to absorb a lot of cultural elements and pass it on, if I decide so, to my children, which I doubt I will ever have; at least to pass it on through folk stories.
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PostSubject: Re: A Wake-up Call Wed Aug 05, 2015 3:06 pm

Politics are not viable at present. Politics follow culture and value systems. The value infrastructure does not exist in order for there to be whatever you guys are talking about here.
The other side has the moral authority. For most people, a liberal is the gatekeeper of moral righteousness and has the capacity to reprimand a deviant if they go off-script. This is what needs to be taken from them.

If it ever comes to violence, then that violence will only be the final culmination of the real struggle, which will have been a struggle for the revaluation of values in this culture. Lashing out stupidly will achieve nothing.

The war is like no other because the weapons are ideas and the battleground is the human mind. Actual physical violence is irrelevant.

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PostSubject: Re: A Wake-up Call Wed Aug 05, 2015 3:08 pm

You tell them they are pagan, and they ask you what is being pagan, and if you do not have the most discriminate answer ready - something more than telling them of worshipping the earth and stars and burning incense, you wont achieve much.

You are more effective attacking a problem, if you have an alternate solution to put in its place.

I personally have not managed that yet; the form of the political structure for the future has not taken shape yet for me. I am willing to procrastinate than jump in blindly hoping we'll sort and solve things along the way. That style can succeed, but its too American for my taste.

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PostSubject: Re: A Wake-up Call Wed Aug 05, 2015 3:08 pm

''As for innocence, killing a Jew or Xt. individual does nothing and involves no big deal, a piece of blunt brutality; killing a J.-Xt. mindset needs more sophistry... transforming a j.-Xt. mindset, even more artistry.''

Not even the elites will have an impact that much, eventually they are all replaced by their universal copies. That is why I think, as you say greatly, artistry is of such importance to transform them. Prose and poetry, resurrection of myths - story telling, folk songs.

Why has Islam such a great impact upon the minds who are attracted to it beside hyper-masculinity, why is it that the Quran and Hadith are so easily spread orally - poetry. Before entering battle they literally can recite in rhyme, their ideals, for what they stand, what their history is, what their memetic-ancestors did and should live up to. It gives strength, it re-affirms their stand.
Why have we these pop-songs with their catchy tunes; it is a frequency of values the State propagates to keep the people numb and occasionally aware what their values are such as that gay song ''take me to church''.


Hence I see poetry and prose stories with our values, our ancestors - to be of great importance. As did Niezsche with his Zarathustra.

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PostSubject: Re: A Wake-up Call Wed Aug 05, 2015 3:09 pm

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Politics are not viable at present. Politics follow culture and value systems. The value infrastructure does not exist in order for there to be whatever you guys are talking about here.
The other side has the moral authority. For most people, a liberal is the gatekeeper of moral righteousness and has the capacity to reprimand a deviant if they go off-script. This is what needs to be taken from them.

If it ever comes to violence, then that violence will only be the final culmination of the real struggle, which will have been a struggle for the revaluation of values in this culture. Lashing out stupidly will achieve nothing.

The war is like no other because the weapons are ideas and the battleground is the human mind. Actual physical violence is irrelevant.

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PostSubject: Re: A Wake-up Call Wed Aug 05, 2015 3:17 pm

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You tell them they are pagan, and they ask you what is being pagan, and if you do not have the most discriminate answer ready - something more than telling them of worshipping the earth and stars and burning incense, you wont achieve much.


Satyr wrote:
This is a spiritual war, not a religious one, and certainly not a materialistic one.
What we struggle to preserve is our ancestry, our past, our nature, and this is the only meaning to the word “spirit” we can give, because when we say “spirit”, or “soul,” we mean the continuum of circumstances that made our appearance possible; we hold the spirit of our ancestors not as something external to ourselves, but as the most intimate aspect of what we call “I”.
When we use these words properly we take them away from those who have despoiled them with their life-hating mysticism, and we return them to their rightful place within our very becoming.
We, individually, are each the manifestation of this spirit of Becoming, this organic soul that struggles in time and for time.
In this regard we must receive guidance from our spiritual brother in arms, Julius Evola, and his analysis of war – in his treatise The Metaphysics of War.
We know now that this many-times declared war, increasing in intensity to become “hot” and then decreasing to become “cold”; sometimes a war using blades but most often one using no more than words; sometimes turning civil, and then uncivil, is more than a war for survival and over land and wealth.
This war is a war over our hearts and minds.
It is a war of integrity, honor, and spiritual continuity.
We fight not only for ourselves but for our blood.


Satyr wrote:
For Pagans it is nobility, the connection of self to ancestry, to reality, the spirit that refuses to go on living without dignity, honesty, honor.
God, the gods, for the pagans are not some vague abstraction detached from reality, and their morals reflect this.
Pagan gods begin as a worshiping of dead ancestors, manifesting as self.
When a pagan preyed to his ancestors it was to himself, for they participate in his becoming as genetic memory, as DNA.
When he honored his ancestors he honored himself, and when he respected himself he respected his ancestors.
So when he did not want to shame his ancestry he was holding himself accountable in relation to them.
And what are ancestors but past?

Then gods became anthropomorphic representations of natural processes, and those the pagan worshiped because they made him possible.
The past took on a broader perspective, because past = nature - the sum of all previous nurturing.

Nobility finds its meaning here.
To be true to self is to be true to your past.
True to your past is to hold yourself accountable before nature, the sum of all nurturing.
True to your past means your object/objective will not dishonor, or detach from it, nor will this object/objective negate, ignore, forget, this past/nature.

Nobility means to refuse to live without your core principles: honor, dignity, freedom, awareness, honesty...and to hold yourself accountable.
It is refine and discriminate, sharpening your sense of self, your identity.
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PostSubject: Re: A Wake-up Call Wed Aug 05, 2015 3:18 pm

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''As for innocence, killing a Jew or Xt. individual does nothing and involves no big deal, a piece of blunt brutality; killing a J.-Xt. mindset needs more sophistry... transforming a j.-Xt. mindset, even more artistry.''

Not even the elites will have an impact that much, eventually they are all replaced by their universal copies. That is why I think, as you say greatly, artistry is of such importance to transform them. Prose and poetry, resurrection of myths - story telling, folk songs.

Why has Islam such a great impact upon the minds who are attracted to it beside hyper-masculinity, why is it that the Quran and Hadith are so easily spread orally - poetry. Before entering battle they literally can recite in rhyme, their ideals, for what they stand, what their history is, what their memetic-ancestors did and should live up to. It gives strength, it re-affirms their stand.
Why have we these pop-songs with their catchy tunes; it is a frequency of values the State propagates to keep the people numb and occasionally aware what their values are such as that gay song ''take me to church''.


Hence I see poetry and prose stories with our values, our ancestors - to be of great importance. As did Niezsche with his Zarathustra.



Islam's success is because it had already understood a religion with fewer theocratic bureuacracy and simple commands will get more people converted than those religions at the time that had meaningful rituals.
Even protestantism is because of this... to do away with unnecessary catholic pomposity.

Simpl'ified' ideas emotionally propagated - ideals of 'heroism' that people cannot shirk from and top that with promise of rewards, whether esoetrically or literally... and you have created a mass identity amongst those original people of the lowest class who had no family customs anyway... discounting family-trade skills.

No need to understand the natural world, when you give their reptilian brains soothing faith.

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PostSubject: Re: A Wake-up Call Wed Aug 05, 2015 3:24 pm

More inclusivity, lowering the lat, degenerate promises.. Anybody can understand the commands of an allah, fewer the words of Zarathustra if they don't take them already out of context to serve their own judeo-xtian needs.

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PostSubject: Re: A Wake-up Call Wed Aug 05, 2015 3:28 pm

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If it ever comes to violence, then that violence will only be the final culmination of the real struggle, which will have been a struggle for the revaluation of values in this culture. Lashing out stupidly will achieve nothing.

The war is like no other because the weapons are ideas and the battleground is the human mind. Actual physical violence is irrelevant.

Thinking more on that, I think at some point physical violence is going to be inevitable... because like Heisman and Strauss pointed out, the very jewish example stands for the fact, without territory [schools, courts, taken over by the PC machine now], memes alone cannot survive for long... making us the new jews...

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PostSubject: Re: A Wake-up Call Wed Aug 05, 2015 3:29 pm

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More inclusivity, lowering the lat, degenerate promises.. Anybody can understand the commands of an allah, fewer the words of Zarathustra if they don't take them already out of context to serve their own judeo-xtian needs.


Right.

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PostSubject: Re: A Wake-up Call Wed Aug 05, 2015 3:36 pm

I've always thought 'revolution' needs to start at the level of architecture... mass-gathering temples to bind people with common aesthetic perspectives on the cosmos...

Iceland to build first temple to Norse gods since Viking age

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PostSubject: Re: A Wake-up Call Wed Aug 05, 2015 3:50 pm

Of course violence will be inevitable as it has always been, tribalism is the instinctive fundament of consciousness, but what tribe do they identify with through training and exposure; racial-appearance, memetic ‘’ought to be / has always been this way’’, Pepsi vs. coke..
Eventually it is a minority fighting another minority and the masses will adjust to their new masters.


That Icelandic temple is State approved and the ones who will take care of ‘’official’’ organizing, have already had ‘’hate mail’’ from pagans across Europa because they are LGTB-tolerant (or just gay?) and all-race friendly.

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PostSubject: Re: A Wake-up Call Wed Aug 05, 2015 4:17 pm

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Of course violence will be inevitable as it has always been, tribalism is the instinctive fundament of consciousness, but what tribe do they identify with through training and exposure; racial-appearance, memetic ‘’ought to be / has always been this way’’, Pepsi vs. coke..
Eventually it is a minority fighting another minority and the masses will adjust to their new masters.


That Icelandic temple is State approved and the ones who will take care of ‘’official’’ organizing, have already had ‘’hate mail’’ from pagans across Europa because they are LGTB-tolerant (or just gay?) and all-race friendly.

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They argue that being intolerant to homosexuals is Christian morality, which I agree with to an extent; but aversion is also biologically rooted.

So much for that then!

See what I mean... pagan now can mean any new-ageism if you leave definitions indiscriminate... and just seeing now a gay marriage apparently by an asatru priest? or a priest simply conducting it in asatru style?...



You personally are on a good path fortunae... inspiring people with remembrance of your land, your heroes, your epics, your achievements is maybe as good as it can get now.

At the political level, there needs to be a massive change in regulating immigrants and maybe other European countries will follow suit after that article Drome posted on the Dutch acknowledging the failure of multiculturalism...

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PostSubject: Re: A Wake-up Call Wed Aug 05, 2015 4:50 pm

It is not about multiculturalism in general but specifically from Islamic countries; as long you accept our way of living (tolerating men fucking each other in the ass), you are welcome. Though this contrast in ideals may create conflict much sooner than if they were alike to the Mexicans, different in genes though easy to integrate within shared ideals.

But the change in mind-set among the Dutch is easy to follow from PC extreme to admitting they like Wilders (the controlled opposition though more straight forward then the right of other countries).
Especially with the pressuring from non-Whites; non-negro muslims as well as the negroes themselves, to ban Sinterklaas and our slave parades, will ignite tribalism in their hearts; I could feel the tension last year already.

Not sure what you mean by inspiring and my heroes; I don't consider myself Dutch nor are their heroes mine to build upon (to an extent maybe).
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PostSubject: Re: A Wake-up Call Wed Aug 05, 2015 5:05 pm

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It is not about multiculturalism in general but specifically from Islamic countries; as long you accept our way of living (tolerating men fucking each other in the ass), you are welcome. Though this contrast in ideals may create conflict much sooner than if they were alike to the Mexicans, different in genes though easy to integrate within shared ideals.

But the change in mind-set among the Dutch is easy to follow from PC extreme to admitting they like Wilders (the controlled opposition though more straight forward then the right of other countries).
Especially with the pressuring from non-Whites; non-negro muslims as well as the negroes themselves, to ban Sinterklaas and our slave parades, will ignite tribalism in their hearts; I could feel the tension last year already.

Not sure what you mean by inspiring and my heroes; I don't consider myself Dutch nor are their heroes mine to build upon (to an extent maybe).

Multiculturalism - as we have it now, the false "diversity" is systemic erasure of history and identity. Egalitarianism and anything goes of the cultural marxists, as long as the machinary is running smooth.

America outsources and buys out IQ merchandise - the best brains money and speech can buy from japan, china, india and wherever... the idea is to show diversity can create the most powerful nation. The Nobel prize is a massive PC market machinary to implanting that ideal.
This is the level you are competing.
For any European country to acknowledge the failure of MC is a big deal, I'd think.
That too, at this time, when what genius worthy of checkmating the american hegemony on that idea and cultural homogeneity can produce, has not been demonstrated.
So on the critical side, I'd say, its not enough to show multiculturalism has failed - its only half the pic., but you are yet to demonstrate what a homogenous nation can produce at shoulders "despite" the resources available to the US.
Else you'd be living in past glory. And the war against eradicating roots and history is to make sure you have no future and you are unable to demonstrate.

As to heroes, I meant in general.
Remembering your [general 'your', not you] epics and your heroes and keeping your history alive is as good as it can get at the individual level.

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PostSubject: Re: A Wake-up Call Wed Aug 05, 2015 5:35 pm

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I forgot li'l Erik gets appreciation for one video and that means it locked forever for anything else he does from then on... its not like, anybody could be totally unemotional and indept. abt. what they are saying. Image matters to him, and so he thinks it matters to everybody else,,, typically pathetic.

No, no.

Lyssa wrote:
He's after heroism, not release, is my understanding.
He needs that.

First you start off by stating that I'm after heroism, not release - then, all of a sudden, you switch to claiming that I am just after release, just after "glory-porn". You did this for reasons I already stated.

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Yea, I am a wannabe in front of Perpetual... whatever.

No, you need to pay better attention; I never claimed you are a " wannabe ".


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Meanwhile, nooooooooo, Jihad is a f----ed up shitty concept that is Totally embedded in semitic history. Knowledge is abt. Increased discrimination, not all-inclusive lcds in the name of poetic license, such that we conclude because Vikings eat food, and Pygmies eat food,,, Vikings and Pygmies are the same!

Noooo. And Never.
No, you are now just acting like Arc; being a petty nitpicker, because you are too cowardly to acknowledge you were wrong.

The White race is being systematically assaulted genetically and memetically, and you guys are merely content with talking. Like I said, this forum is great; but more can be done.

I'm not trying to say we need to imitate exactly what the Jihadists do, but we surely can learn a thing or two about their commitment to their people and ideology.

Are you guys void of passion? Where is your thymos? If people were to break into your homes and assault your family, would you just sit in a corner and intellectualize it, or would you pick up a sword and kill?

You guys are emotionally dead, empty; unable to feel strong passions.

Whatever

All or nothing!

You're still doing this insecurity thing, a crisis shame tactic and unsettlement for industriousness, which is a motif among social media users and disgruntled parents, especially the younger and older generations, with the former as gamers and memers and the latter as a life working a meaningless job: you assume that because you aren't satisfied with your position then others must then be positioned underneath you because they uphold an elusive complacency in what they are doing, whereas you and they have to slogan and amplify your alleged importance by dispersion of your life ideals into universal affairs. It's the image of importance posing as active with the projector as passive.
It's these assumptions which expose you and the rest.

Etiquette: it's none of your business to get up in Someone's Business. First order of social dissociation.
Do you want an offensive, then approachment by encroachment, will lend to unnecessary defensive against you.
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PostSubject: Re: A Wake-up Call Thu Aug 06, 2015 7:49 am

You assume others don't understand a phenomenon because they don't institutionalize it in the way to which you want them.  
The battle is immured as always and only yours: you create the battle and you battle this battle, whether you are superimposed in antiquity or some other place and time agreeable or disagreeable. You were born at your period, neither at the right period nor wrong period: you make the period or else the period makes you.
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PostSubject: Re: A Wake-up Call Sat Aug 08, 2015 3:47 pm

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We're not afraid of the heat. Go forth. But send only your best self.

Don't pretend like you're protecting anyone here.

Some things are best said in private.

Maybe, but not the best things.
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PostSubject: Re: A Wake-up Call Sat Aug 08, 2015 3:51 pm

Coaching others to be heroes is no less heroic than being a hero oneself.

If one cant make it being a boxer or a somebody at the MMA or wherever, one can always train oneself to be fit to train another.
Poets and Novelists who can create heroes and worthy visions - worlds with words are no less heroic.
The Olympic relay of life... passing the flame and keeping it ever burning.

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PostSubject: Re: A Wake-up Call Sat Aug 08, 2015 4:16 pm

It seems to be the pas de deux that the heroes which reach a mass congregation of influenced do not churn out a concomitant proportionality of heroes, as these followers are complacent with a validation and crutch to their positional coping; just enough to suchlike get by.

It, en bloc, doesn't take but at least one carrier for continuity.
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PostSubject: Re: A Wake-up Call Sat Aug 08, 2015 4:40 pm

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It seems to be the pas de deux that the heroes which reach a mass congregation of influenced do not churn out a concomitant proportionality of heroes, as these followers are complacent with a validation and crutch to their positional coping; just enough to suchlike get by.

It, en bloc, doesn't take but at least one carrier for continuity.


1. That's as bad as everyone thinking they are heroes.

2. Isn't that something we also see about the Capitalist phenomemon?

The competitive market creates too many innovators... so myriad, they fall apart. Satyr called this the Idiot Savant trend:

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"Idiot Savants.

A byproduct of increasing specialization.
An individual becomes an "expert" in one field, knowing all there is to know about it (a collector of information he accepts from the "appropriate" sources and regurgitates as a matter of fact); his entire life is taken over, with brief breaks to replenish his energies and to recreate, with keeping up to date with the information he requires to maintain his expert status.

As a consequence his performances in all other areas and his knowledge of any other field of knowledge, suffer.
He may even become socially inept having not cultivated the social aspects of his behavior.
Common terms for such types are: nerd, geek, dweeb etc.

He increasingly becomes dependent upon other experts in other fields, in this way also reinforcing his own status as a specialist they too depend upon.
This increasing interdependence results in the opposite of freedom and uniqueness. His inadequacies in all areas except the area of his expertise makes him more dependent on imitating and simply accepting popular trends or fashions coming from other "specialists" in the fields of behavior or sexualtiy or comedy or charm.
The source leads to a uniformity because it is itself trained by an institution wanting to produce a particular mindset and to reinforce the value of a particular behavior and a particular way of thinking. The institution, after all, wishes to preserve its own relevance and so it both promotes an attitude which does so and it also glorifies those who adhere to its principles.

In the sexual game this type becomes antipathetic to the opposite sex. it lacks the charm and knowhow, the contact with its own essence as male or female to be attractive...yet its social success makes resources accessible to him. What he or she lacks in charm and sexual energy he makes up with social status.
His special skills and techniques make him valuable to the other experts who need him to take care of the aspects of social living they cannot dedicate but little time to, thusly freeing their own time to dedicate to their own specialty.

This codependency is defended vehemently, as the years pass by and more investments in time and resources have been made and more dependencies have been nurtured.
The individual becomes conservative to preserve this inter-relationship making himself viable within it.

As a side-effect these individuals become less and less able to perceive any grand picture or to challenge the status quo. Their entire intellectual capacity is taken over with the finer details of their craft, submerging themselves in the particular, loosing view of the universal."

3. Evolution takes long periods of inculcation and digestion... so values dont just stay as memes in the head, but to become embodied - epigenetic, takes generations. At the end of every 7th or 10th, an atavism is thrown up, a genius and a hero appear.

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PostSubject: Re: A Wake-up Call Sat Aug 08, 2015 5:29 pm

1. What is?

2. I suppose in many ways.

Where's the threshold at which congenital talents are disciplined into a concordant discipline?

A strength in one area is at the cost to weakness in another area, whereby limitations or incapabilities or without a focus of strengths grants an even distribution of weakness.
It's a rarity to be a jack of all trades and master of them all, which is not to say that subspeciality upon subspeciality is a strengthening.

Isn't that what a PhD boils down to: knowing everything about nothing.
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