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PostSubject: Psychoanalyzing Music and Dance Psychoanalyzing Music and Dance EmptySat Sep 05, 2015 12:27 pm

Death-metal


Death metal represents the return to primal urges, animality; becoming werewolf.
The style is aggressive, dark, vehement, and carnal. The lyrics are usually centered
around gore and brutality - bloodlust.
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Melancholic


Typically, those who enjoy melancholic music are suffering from nostalgia and masochism.
That longing to return to a time of bliss, a time long gone and that can never return.
Attempts to make it back, but never reachable, as if the foreground moves farther away with every passing stride.
The sadness turns into a pleasure, pleasure in the suffering, in the brooding and sulking.
A delight in sadness, in gloom, in emotional suffering - masochism.
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So in the end loving oneself and his existence is a masochism since all life is suffering?
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you'd better as a porn star than a philosopher IMHO
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polishyouth wrote:
So in the end loving oneself and his existence is a masochism since all life is suffering?

Yes, there is a veiled masochism in the Nietzschean embrace of Life.

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A holy YES to life is a holy YES to suffering; life is suffering.
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you have stated that they are suffering so i presumed it to be the illness variant of masochism, but thank you for clarification
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polishyouth wrote:
you have stated that they are suffering so i presumed it to be the illness variant of masochism, but thank you for clarification  

Well, the ones who listen to sad music a lot are, I would say, suffering from the illness variant.
Your question about life, though, was somewhat unrelated.
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Rap and Hip-Hop

Rap and Hip-Hop are very base and primitive forms of music. They represent the return to the jungle. Low bass drums, chimp eeking and ooking, and monkey shenanigans in general.
Usually, the people who enjoy this type of music have very disorganized, chaotic minds. A turning away ( from civilized life), regression towards a more wild, chaotic state of being; becoming chimpanzee.
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Peaceful/Fantasy Music

A great amount of order but low amount of earthly activity. After battle, the conquered territory becomes part of self, expanding your own awareness. More is introduced to your influence,  your ordering (being at your restful state). The low amount of sharp and intrusive tones, the lack of the earthy/feminine drums/beats, making it ascend the earthly and into "air", oxygen or impetus (will). Will unrestricted by the earthly (potential).
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I'll just leave this here...
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Looks like Fergie is getting old and she knows it, so adopting the MILF label is a way for her to present herself as (still) attractive. It is somewhat unfitting that almost none of these women actually look old enough to be considered MILF, but maybe that's just the makeup covering up the signs of ageing, which is stupid because it kind of defeats the entire point of a MILF.

I managed to guess what the video will be about: Some handsome guy drooling over "MILF" women, and a bunch of women in skimpy outfits dancing. Not a major feat of prediction though, given that most pop videos have a similar general theme.

I can't for the life of me listen to such... "music".

A gem from Paul Joseph Watson on popular music:

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Riastradh wrote:
I'll just leave this here...

Mother's milk, suckling on breasts (even called those two at the first shot with the giant milk bottle and all being shot with this clean and soft look.

The video doesn't sexualise a woman who happens to be with children (MILF). Are there even her kids in the video? It sexualises the mother-boychild relationship.

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As part of the feminization of man, masculinization of women is the behaviour that enters to fill the gap.
As real masculinity declines all becomes an act, a pretense.
Females with an innate desire for masculinity, will be distressed by the decline, turning to the abstraction of Institution to fill in, or to males displaying hyper-masculine behaviour to hide their own emasculation.
The most obvious expression of maleness will be highlighted, and the more subtle ones will be neglected, creating a caricature of what it means to be and to think like a man.    
We see its in the association of masculinity with in-discriminant violence, with unjustifiable certainty called "confidence" building a macho character that, in the end, belittles masculinity, sometimes intentionally but most of the time simply because the ones imitating it have no way of relating with what is completely alien to them.
What does an actor do when he wishes to get into a role?
He studies the outer manifestations of the personality, and constructs a character.
Some practising a more serious form of acting called "method acting", involves "getting into the skin" of personae by imitating his external expressions of this internal personae.
It is a way of moving backwards into a role.
Imitating the personae outer manifestations creates in the actor a sympathetic connection - mirroring slowly builds a physical framework that then sends signals to the brain, reflecting the original.
In conversation between two individuals absorbed in the topic, or in one another, mirroring also takes the form of imitating posture, gestures, facial expressions.
In couples living together fro decades this can also produce similar appearances, over time.

In the video we see some other aspect of feminization.
Here feminization is a reduction or stunting of the male psyche so that it remains in an adolescent stage, or even regress further towards infancy.
In the past it was a fact that femininity was a immature form of masculinity - a woman's appearance points to a child-like roundness, softness, large yes, a adolescent demeanour, which was supposed to ignite the instincts of protection in the male.
Here the roles are reversed, because the role of alpha, the protector provider, is monopolized by the faceless institution - a faceless institution which can wear any face: black, white, male, female, child... any face that remains loyal to the institution's power and its core principles - its idea(l)s.

The biological male has been demoted to the role of corporeality, with no spiritual content - body with no mind, since mind is taken over by the institutional central idea(l), and disseminated in the form of education.
Biological males, other than being sperm detonators, because the institution developed a method of passing on genetic data but has yet to develop a method to bridge the psychological barrier in females, who require a warm body, a living being, as a support...a husband, a mate.
usually a beta-male, as in all primate social structures, is required - one to offer support in a female's inter-group rivalries, vying for top female position, beneath the alpha male, which in this case is the institution. Females obsessing over careers is illuminated.

The biological male is a surrogate female, but before that he is a potential sperm donor, and pleasure body.
His mind is no longer that important to a female, who has access to data, support, institutional protection, and so on.
What she has not overcome is her own psychology's need for sexual validation.
A woman's greatest source of identity is as sexual means to an end.
This is why having a child, and being attractive is central to her psychology....more so for average or below average females.
So, they need a social support in their competition with other females, a sperm donor, although increasingly this is not so, and a organ with no connection to a being - a penis to gratify her sexual desires.

We can see a caricature building... a man-child with fully developed sex organs, a muscular body, and no brain to challenge or dominate, or exceed that of the institution.
A teenager..
Female as mother/lover, completely dominated by institution with no face, giving her the sense that she is top-dog, or can rise, like Hillary, to be the prime representation of this masculine institution...but having no understanding of what it means to be a man, a woman seeks guidance from inside herself, and finds it in her motherly instincts, where, as dominant over child, she is for it protector/provider, almost as a man is to her.  
The idea(l) or the "good enough" man is the man-child.
Sexually developed but not too overly mentally, psychologically developed, preserving him in a perpetual adolescent state where she can hold sway and manipulate.

She, once agency of nature, becomes agency of system... genes to memes.
Through her the institution, the meme, finds expression.
She remains means to an end.
The "milk" is a metaphor for her potency - what her physical body produces to nourish an infantile male.
She is, for him, the protector/provider, with the backing of the true alpha, the institution, which she serves and surrenders to, as all females need to surrender to the superior.
In a world of sheltering, the "real-deal" is less relevant, since all can now "fake it".
Inter-subjectivity.
There is no severity to judgment, because there is no high cost to the benefit.
Muscles are not to be formed for usage, but for display, often inhibiting movement, utility - intelligence can be faked when you have the internet, and you mistake data/knowledge for understanding... being fully lucid is not necessary when no judgment ever results in a consequence too severe to handle.
The institution, preferring malleable, docile, minds protects poor judgment form the worse consequences, permitting them to remain as they are.

Females develop earlier than males, therefore returning to a perpetual state of adolescence places females at an advantage.
Restricting male options means that the only options applicable are the ones females exceed at.
Thinking within the box, for instance, genius in recognizing and manipulating other psychologically, is another: all part of the gender that thrives within groups, within social situations.
What need is there for a intelligent male when specialization, and data accessibility, takes care of things?
All that is left is humour, to display mental flexibility, or enough brains to ascend the social ladder, acquiring access to resources - which even a female can do.
What need for philosophy when we can simply discuss about philosophy?
Google options abound.
Collect, memorize, or not, and regurgitate, offering a clever quip, once in a while, to show how "comfortable" you are with the material.
Seduce, impress, wipe.... done.

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No woman should take comfort in a ethic which talks of rationality and not beauty, which talks of depths of intelligence and not emotionality. It is the care with which the man dances around the woman, freeing her spirit to become playful, generous and loving, which is the appeal of man to her. It is the austere conditions with which his playfulness survives that makes her flutter in turn. Evil or not, she is not inclined to make these distinctions because all she cares for is her own empowerment, that is achieved by her sampling of cultures and humans all over. It is through the man's security that she will think of him before gorging on what was only to her a sampling platter, treating men and cultures like toys, that demonstrates to her his own power. A man who does not dance is, to her, a boy. And a man who dances makes her feel young and in that moment he is more mature than her, but just as lively, young and equal - provided he is not terrible at it. In that moment, there is an egalitarianism within her own eyes.

It is this reason that emotion itself is treated as dirty coins, pennies-per-view, by think-tanks that spend their time best trying to keep their wallets secured against stampede of dancing and lively persons. It is not the seriousness with which they obsess over remaining alive, but in remaining undead for their coming utopia. They know, all that is alive must some day die, so if they never live they will never die - and death is what they fear most of all. Their minds have been hijacked by their instinct. They exploit compassion but give none of their own. Vampires, feeding on the lifeblood of a species constantly trying to dance. Every one of the hedonists take rank and are allies with them, and every liar who hatefully exclaims the ones who are lively to be oppressors as they stomp all over their plans.

While the lower races commence with their sexual gyrating, the higher dance with all meaning, of self-conscious ownership. Every step danced is an assertion of ownership over themselves and a declaration of their own person. All poundings of the feet are the battle cry against accountants and tyrants. Chained up, no man would dance, for his movements would become little but mocking entertainment for his masters. It would be the height of shame that one dance free while knowing they are chained.

And, this is the poison and indignity of modern America, that there are dancers out there whom women believe are declaring themselves, that it's not a circus as the moneylenders scheme to buy up the farms which grew the food for this man and the house he even lives under. Dancing, to these usurers, are reserved for shadows - and their pride hide in the shadows, along with their dancing that they perform in their synagogues. And those dances are always ones of victory - declarations without any work - in a space where no enemies can challenge them as they challenge those who dance openly.
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TL;DR Any state of affairs that is not the tunnel vision of visceral (hedonistic) unfiltered, unthinking, expression -> this is evil to the liberal. The liberal's distaste for this characterization is because whenever they 'think', they accept unquestioningly the first deduction which occurs to them, without consideration of objections. [Excepted are inauthentic liberals.]
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The liberal mind accepts nothing less than an open field of flowers and sets itself up in antagonism with any idea of 'exploitation'. It does not think about how it might achieve that - and the discipline required. It only looks, likened with newborn eyes, at the destruction and think about its ugliness. Whenever there is a period of anarchy, they would content themselves with the primitivism of mere hippy existence. They demand everything be done in love, so simultaneously demand a blindness to evil itself - unless with base oppositionalism. From there, with a great perception of evil, they set forth to totally destroy it and bring back equilibrium.

This involves no self-reflection, no self-consciousness. Whenever they do acquire that, they mock the impositions of order that knowledge brings - knowledge of self - by accusing it of oppression. The ideal of universal love brings about their hatred of thymos itself. When they are not being primitive and casually aggressing against sensitive forward-thinking souls, they become absorbed in anger. They ignore masculine aggression and competition, preferring instead to take advantage of their natural advantages.

If they were to be the future of man, then knowledge would vanish from the world; providing no challenge and no benefit. Every 'excellent human' in their societies which did more work out of 'love' would hide, like in all nature there exists, a hidden cruelty of them exercising their naturally superior talents - and accusing other of resentment for questioning them.

While this could be true, those who utilize knowledge to know this of themselves would be (pervertedly, in the liberal's view) able to artificially raise or lower themselves or another. The demonization of artificiality, treating it as perverse and ugly is the attempt at cleaning oneself, as hygiene, of others' characters, or 'false characters' because one cannot be considered doing something 'authentic' if it is not done out of inclusive love.

This is my impression of Kurt Cobain. Every time he would think, he would instead scream or relent. He loved innocence - and so was opposed to Christian thinking about 'original sin'. Eventually, unable to handle the requirements of adulthood, the demands of future generations and that sort of love which is shown from a parent to a child - he left. When one starts sacrificing their own selves for another, they have to have some sort of concept that they do not deserve naivety, continual 'authenticity'. One has to engage with ideals when they're not around a kid, take responsibility for insidious and aggressive environment which would sooner kill you than be vulnerable/open - authentic.

Whatever Kurt's condition, I think he sought someone able to reciprocate his love and found none. The blindness of love is quickly sobered when it comes to the uncaring nature of the planet. We evolved through struggle, platformed by this planet and we developed an easiness only through that struggle. There is a nihilistic 'innocence' to being 'created', irresponsible. Attempting to hold onto that, while navigating the world is (to some, almost understandably) unbearable. That innocence, purified, (Garden of Eden) is the contrast which enables sight of the existential abyss.

The proper approach is holding oneself responsible for that innocence: discipline. Not raging (at least, undisciplinedly) against impositions against it. There is a nihilistic conceit to the woman who tells herself that she is superior while she is being raped - mocking the rapists; as Kurt does in his song "Rape Me". Because of Kurt's condition, he was turning what was a worldly (however 'un-Christian') process into something ugly. One might argue that it is ugly, truly, because of the civilization protecting possibly protecting those degenerates. And that would align with anti-artificiality - even to a degree agreeable by me. However, the nihilism shows itself in the intensity of the conceit in 'Rape Me', which is an idea(l) elevating women, perhaps too much. It is a masculine expression, not a feminine one. Yes, a woman should have dignity - but relying on herself without consideration to reality is actually hurtful to her, rather than beneficial.

Kurt was certainly a great "lover" of things, but being unsatisfied with anything less than innocence took its toll. Certainly sad but not inexplicable. These are just my passing impressions of the man, and not really so much about attacking him, but grasping the idealism of his or those inspired by him - and its destructive character - without doing it injustice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOhaVYHiPfo

EDIT later: The above post was written without having read the following: https://kurtcobainssuicidenote.com/kurt_cobains_suicide_note.html
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Some of the music videos I link are of the witch house genre. Its main theme is anti-Christianity, and can be summarized in an image like this:



It is a reaction against perverted Christian nature-hatred and denial and absurd standards of purity. Covering up young fertile women in clothes from head to toe and indoctrinating them to be sexless and childless is indeed perverted in its own way. The problem is that similar to satanism, witch house just inverts Christianity and ends up being perverted and nature-hating in the other extreme. As usual, nature as a standard is ignored, as in nature there exist naturally optimal/profitable/superior behaviors, and inferior (perverted/degenerate).

Most of the music in the genre is shit and has degenerate, feminist (witches, magical/sexual female power) undertones, but I like some of it, just like I like some Christian music.

The very idea of magic is somewhat feminine. Men obtain power by scientifically analyzing reality and finding ways to become powerful. Women are generally incapable of doing so, and even the best of them aren't even close to being as good at that as the best of men. So they have to resort to lies about non-existent powers that just "magically" (aka with no possible rational explanation) exist. You don't have to do anything to deserve them, like most super-heroes. You just have it by default, maybe have to say a few words to cast a spell.

Lies to baffle and intimidate the stupid.
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