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PostSubject: Re: Immigration Issues Sat Jan 09, 2016 1:36 pm

Everytime you mess this much with Europa, we drag the whole world into wars, conflict, crisis and genocides (WW1 and 2 were created by the same Globalist elements).
This time however, the Global Elites have messed too much, this will be, in Semetic terms, our ''Samson solution''; you are going to take us out - fine, but we shall drag the whole world with us and no people, no race, no culture, no-one will be spared. Especially since practically the whole third rate world depends on our stability, you will die off.

No leaders, just the survival of the most Noble, the most ''sociopathic'' (thus those out of touch with your ''normative'' standards and institutional Morality).

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PostSubject: Re: Immigration Issues Sun Jan 10, 2016 2:55 pm

Sweden covered up a similar attack that happened back in August:
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PostSubject: Re: Immigration Issues Mon Jan 11, 2016 2:29 pm



Time to get angry.

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PostSubject: Re: Immigration Issues Tue Jan 12, 2016 4:13 am

German campaign against "sexual violence and racism", that "you shouldn't only talk about sexual violence when it's done by foreigners."

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News article was in spiegel magazine

We had a similar campaign here called #lääpijä which came after the Köln incident, and there was a "social media scandal" where this ex-pornstar named Rakel Liekki wrote a story about "sexual harassment" where someone tried to take a picture under her skirt when she was giving a public speech or something, then some politician commented on it "you should keep your mouth shut, ex-pornstar" and obviously like typical LGBT she responded " you have no right to tell what I can do with my body!" " That was my past!".

And obviously she is one of the "celebrities" who were invited (by president) to independence day celebration last year.

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PostSubject: Re: Immigration Issues Tue Jan 12, 2016 12:45 pm

Some right wing israeli facebook:

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PostSubject: Re: Immigration Issues Tue Jan 12, 2016 3:13 pm

As in the [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] thread, the argument goes, mass imigration today is only fair karma/consequence for/of past colonial plunder -



And while this old debate doesn't touch it properly when Muray was asked the question and he drifted onto "how long shall we bear the punishment?", etc. -





On the one hand it should be noted that current immigrant integration is a continuation of the Same liberal current that went to "civilize" the world in god's image, etc.

And on the other,
I think there should be a difference made between colonial domestication and taming down through civility and education, etc.,  and current immigrant integration through pure parasitism and gradual discarding off the host, while the former wanted accumulation of satellites for prestige, power, and status.

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PostSubject: Re: Immigration Issues Tue Jan 12, 2016 4:17 pm

The conflicts in the ME that created the refugees were the work of USA, not Europe.

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PostSubject: Re: Immigration Issues Tue Jan 12, 2016 6:43 pm

Even if we created them; did Alexander the Great, when plundering (and building) his way through the ME; give a damn about ''refugees'', or did he massacre whole towns occasionally, sold women and children into slavery. Or as in the Iliad, where they killed the children of Troy even in the belly of their mothers.

We have no guilt nor obligations. In stead of ''muh Indians'' mentality - one should say: ''I have pride that 627 White men conquered and destroyed an empire of millions.
Kill them all off, and those who think they can have a safe place here, it should be the belly of the beast - who do they think they are; it is only since recently that the war mongers take ''care'' of those they presumably did ''wrong'' - a longer time ago it would be ridiculous to even think of.
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PostSubject: Re: Immigration Issues Tue Jan 12, 2016 6:54 pm

Not to speak that the actual colonization in Africa started roughly 200 years ago, on locations not inhabited with Bantus, pygmees, bushmen (though in SA they made agreements sometimes to trade land for goods). We built the infrastructure, economy, exposed the resources, built schools, hosipitables, roads, water pipes, cured diseases, made deserts into blooming agricultural living places.

They came TO US, especially in SA, where the Bantus, when the Dutch and some other (fucking English scum) European tribes settled 400 years ago, arrived around 200 years ago, enslaving and massacring other native populations and it took them around 6500 years to migrate from central Africa to the South where we settled, built and lived in peace (except for the English who put the Dutch into concentration camps each time they found gold etc., even though they just farmed, hence they call themselves Boer which means farmer, or Afrikaner, because we named Afrika and set the borders). Funny how the nigger needs our given name and our set borders to define themselves.

Oke, some countries where under full control, but still, why the guilt; the Turks did it worse and the Berber/Arab slave trade lasted longer and was more brutal.

200 years ago, what was before those 200 years? Nothing but a shit people on rich lands.

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PostSubject: Re: Immigration Issues Wed Jan 13, 2016 7:23 am

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The conflicts in the ME that created the refugees were the work of USA, not Europe.

I'm seeing with the belief the US is the United Nations for all anyone cares, and has been for a long time.

If the universe aged a 100-200 years forward and BBC did a documentary, the way I see it, the whole period of the J.-Xt. fundamentalism that led to the discovery of the Americas and the J.-Xt. fundamentalism that "exports democracy" to the ME. with the support of the "united nations" today, would be cramped together as one single thread of continuity. It would be One story, one Same episode a century or two from now. That's how it would get summarized.

Meanwhile, in the time we live in now, I see how best I can distinguish the three "zealots" as Sloterdijk calls the semitic fundamentalist globalism.
Jew-sponsored exploitations had colonial interests motivated by status owing to their victim history, Xt. globalization has a missionary motive to tame and civilize down every kind of excitation, and Islamic integration amounts to rape, breeding, plundering or laying waste. All three driven by the same need to realize paradise on earth, and supported by fundamentalists and liberal strains alike.

Jews say they are Europeans because they defended Europe from the Crusaders, and Xts. say they are Europeans because they defended it from the Jihadists, and Islamists say they defended it from the Jews.
If one wants to be clear about the identity of Europe, we should be countering such claims by noting how anyone could be saying they were guarding 'Europe', when the very borders of Europe was being defined by their intra-wars, and for another, there is a past history defining the kernel of what is or is not European…
And that's where thinkers like Evola become relevant, when they differentiate between First function viking and roman conquests, and Mercantile 3rd function conquests like the Spanish-Portugese explorations, and the modern 5th estate Media conquests, redefining memes and ideologies down to its level of vapid communication and information consumption.

We cant disown our history, when pagans have to pay for the J.-Xt. colonial 'European' policies, but we can high-define and deepen our history with bolder contours, the remaining look like "intervals" in a more essential historicism.

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PostSubject: Re: Immigration Issues Wed Jan 13, 2016 9:12 am

That's just masochistic nonsense.

Europe was conquered and occupied by the USA and Soviet Union. After the 90s, most of it came under US influence. The EU was an attempt to extricate the continent from this influence, but it still has a subordinate role. Europe is not in charge of it's destiny and has not been since before the world wars. I view it as an occupied territory. You view it as a collection of satellites or client states, whatever.

The Arab Spring which disrupted the entire ME, the Iraq war, the various other interventions, have nothing to do with Europe and were not instigated by Europe. Yet the flow of refugees goes directly through other countries like Turkey in order to move as many foreign muslim people into Europe as quickly as possible. Like the Hungarian guy said, this is to cause as much disruption and chaos in Europe as possible, hopefully indefinitely.

It's completely retarded to say that this is some price to pay for colonialism: the price that is being payed is the shift in power relations resulting from hosting 2 world wars on this continent, and the consequent devastation that resulted towards the European people and civilisation.

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PostSubject: Re: Immigration Issues Wed Jan 13, 2016 10:20 am

I am not the one saying what is happening today is rightful colonial aftermath, but when it is argued that way, I am noting there is a continuous strand of fundamental Xt. in the mercantilism of those church backed-up colonialists and the US "exporting democracy and bringing stability" to the world. Whether and how much it has merit is another matter.
And when it is argued that way, in distinguishing J.-Xt.  colonial impact and Islamic immigration impact, motives play a role. I am noting, while formerly one wanted to have flourishing subject nations, the agenda today is total parasitism and wiping out of host nations.

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PostSubject: Re: Immigration Issues Wed Jan 13, 2016 4:34 pm

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"What happens on the right-wing platforms and in chatrooms is at least as awful as the acts of those assaulting the women," he said. "This is poisoning the climate of our society."

"What happens"...i.e. telling the truth and exercising free speech....is, at the very least, as bad as the planned sexual assault of women... and at most... the the evil of all evils...
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PostSubject: Re: Immigration Issues Wed Jan 13, 2016 4:44 pm

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"What happens on the right-wing platforms and in chatrooms is at least as awful as the acts of those assaulting the women," he said. "This is poisoning the climate of our society."

"What happens"...i.e. telling the truth and exercising free speech....is, at the very least, as bad as the planned sexual assault of women... and at most... the the evil of all evils...


When you are being outraged, somebody else is implied to hold a responsibility to comply and make the outrage go away.
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PostSubject: Re: Immigration Issues Wed Jan 13, 2016 5:20 pm

The anger of the refugee is something that the European must bear... but he can't bear his own anger... His own anger is somehow more unsightly than the anger of the refugee (despite crime statistics)...

Why does the state come down so hard and quick on white anger? Because it has darker implications (for them).
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PostSubject: Re: Immigration Issues Wed Jan 13, 2016 5:38 pm

Forty per cent of Moroccan, Algerian and Tunisian migrants registered in Cologne have been arrested for crimes, police figures reveal

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On another note, something like a 16 year old son with his father also counts as a family in those statistics about the rapfugees composition. And how do we know that he's 16? Since he probably got rid of his passport and papers to avoid being sent back in the future it's because he said so.
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PostSubject: Re: Immigration Issues Thu Jan 14, 2016 1:02 am

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The alleged incident took place after Norway announced it was offering non-European asylum-seekers classes in Western sexual norms, in an attempt to prevent violence against women.

Rapes children, LOL..
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PostSubject: Re: Immigration Issues Thu Jan 14, 2016 1:16 am

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The alleged incident took place after Norway announced it was offering non-European asylum-seekers classes in Western sexual norms, in an attempt to prevent violence against women.

Rapes children, LOL..
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"There's no single cultural code to say what is good or bad behaviour because we want a free society.

"There has to be tolerance for attitudes that may be seen as immoral by some traditional or religious norms."

Straight from the apologist's mouth. Free yourselves from any norms that are considered "bad". Be as racist, sexist, whatever.. as you want. Oh, and rape children, too.. If you're into that. Disgusting.
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PostSubject: Re: Immigration Issues Thu Jan 14, 2016 7:00 am

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PostSubject: Re: Immigration Issues Thu Jan 14, 2016 7:25 am

Sex Scandal in Finnish red cross, they suspect one of the workers is having sexual relations with a refugee (red cross customers). This is just a tip of an iceberg, so much cover up.
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PostSubject: Re: Immigration Issues Thu Jan 14, 2016 7:20 pm

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One element of the basic law of Germany that has aroused attention among the growing body of individuals who are dissatisfied with the Chancellor’s migrant policies is article 20(4), which gives a right to “resist” any individual attempting to violate the constitutional order, “if no other remedy is available”.

Some have argued they now have the right to invoke this clause, as Chancellor Merkel apparently side-steps the elected parliament to enact her own policy. Breitbart London reported in October on the Federal prosecutors office being flooded with letters calling for legal proceedings to be opened against the Chancellor, accusing her of high treason.

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PostSubject: Re: Immigration Issues Fri Jan 15, 2016 7:18 am

Now the news are saying that some older woman (one woman or few, not a phenomenon) was trying to buy sex from the refugees (underaged?), which is weird because these kind of suggestions doesn't even come for regular groups of boys in public. Let's see how this thing turns out in the end.
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PostSubject: Re: Immigration Issues Fri Jan 15, 2016 8:13 am

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PostSubject: Re: Immigration Issues Fri Jan 15, 2016 1:47 pm

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New video circling around facebook, some woman put unconscious in a nightclub using knockout drops and some dude (refugee, foreign origin) pulls down her pants. I don't have any info on this yet, maybe tomorrow.

EDIT: It turned out the woman undressed herself before that video was filmed, so she was a whore and she was with her boyfriend.
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PostSubject: Re: Immigration Issues Sat Jan 16, 2016 1:05 pm

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Refugees goes to females shower area in swimming hall in Oulu , laughing at the nude females taking shower, again. There was a mother with her daughters in the showers at that time.

Now they banned all refugees from the swimming hall. They had to explain that " this ban is because we want to show them that we don't tolerate this kind of behavior"....
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PostSubject: Re: Immigration Issues Sun Jan 17, 2016 6:08 am

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Our police was earlier last year telling women to wave their keys if they got into trouble. No joke.

" If you have keys in your hands when someone is trying to assault you, you can scare them away. You must also make loud noises. " - Police
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PostSubject: Re: Immigration Issues Sun Jan 17, 2016 12:41 pm

It is not like that they are alike to animals; they are below that.
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PostSubject: Re: Immigration Issues Sun Jan 17, 2016 6:58 pm

This has to be the biggest case of denial that has ever taken place in human history..surely..
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PostSubject: Re: Immigration Issues Sun Jan 17, 2016 7:57 pm

Not as big as the denial of Galileo's astronomical findings by the church, or Hitler's denial of the loss of the eastern front to the red army. No f**kin way.
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PostSubject: Re: Immigration Issues Mon Jan 18, 2016 2:03 am

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"I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE"

A woman from Hamburg works at a preliminary reception centre for refugees. The woman in her mid-30s recounts how she goes through her day - and why she thinking of quitting at the moment. A report:

The refugee crisis is becoming more and more critical. It is evident that the situation in the Hamburg lodgings is extraordinarily difficult - a female staff member provides a report in the "Welt on Sunday" about her daily experience.

"I have been working full-time and fully employed at a preliminary reception centre for refugees in Hamburg since the autumn of 2015. I had applied for this job with enthusiasm, as it was precisely what I had wanted to do. When I had finally received the green-light in the mail, I was over the moon; I could finally help not only abstractly, but also do something practical for the refugees.

As such, I stepped into the reception centre on my first working day with the best of moods; naturally, I was excited, yes, anyone would be on their first day in a new job, but this was particularly pleasing to me. My colleagues were dedicated and very nice, and although I had had no direct contact with the refugees then, I greeted those I came across with great enthusiasm and found them all very wonderful people.

"It's going to be really great here," I thought to myself. I threw myself into work with absolute motivation over the next few days. I was to handle up to 1,500 refugees, who were to be sheltered there. I was responsible for their social counselling and was to be the person of contact for all of the refugees' social problems, to support them with asylum applications, or to make medical appointments if they should need any.

Well, then came the first few refugees into my office, where I wanted to provide the social counselling - and after their first few consultations, I had already begun to notice that my very positive and idealistic notion of them and their behaviour differed signficantly and clearly from reality. Of course, one can't tar all refugees with the same brush, there are many among them who are very kind, very grateful, very willing to integrate and very happy to be here. However, if I was to be honest, then working with 90 percent of those whom I have met has been rather unpleasant, and unfortunately not as I had previously thought.

First of all, many of them are extremely demanding. They come to me and demand that I immediately provide them with an apartment and a nice car on the spot, and that I preferably get them a nice proper job as well, all because I was supposed to do so, since I was seated there anyway and they had only come because of all those. If I refused and instead tried to explain to them that that was out of the question, they would raise their voices and sometimes get really aggressive. An Afghan man had recently threatened to kill himself. And a pair of Syrians and a group of Afghans declared that they would carry out a hunger strike until I had helped them move to another place. They once screamed to a female colleague of mine who had originally come from the Arab region, "We'll cut off your head!" Due to such and also other cases, the police had come to us multiple times during the week.

Secondly, they frequently provide very faulty data [NOTE: about themselves]. They come to me with their papers in hand, and then tell a story which absolutely does not ring true at all. But they hold fast to that, and I can only be certain when I have spoken with my colleagues, and the latter often say that this person had already been with them on the previous day and that everything had been narrated a little differently. There was, for instance, an occupant, who came to me with his deportation notice and wanted to know what would happen then. I explained it to him, then he left. Soon after he came to my female colleague and suddenly showed completely new identification papers with a different name and said that he was that person with the other name. He was then no longer deported, but transfered to another camp.

Thirdly, they seldom follow arrangements. I also make doctor's appointments for the refugees. All of them must undergo a basic medical examination, i.e. taking an X-ray, a vaccination and a general check-up. Yet many of them wanted to see other doctors, in particular the dentist or the orthopaedic doctor. I then make appointments for these, but when the appointment comes around, they simply do not turn up. This happens so frequently that the doctors have by now already requested that not so many appointments should be made - but what am I supposed to do then? I can't just turn down a request for an appointment just because I assume that the one requesting would not show up.

And fourthly, and this is the worst for me: some of the refugees behave outrageously towards women. It is well-known that mostly single men are coming to us, approximately 65 percent or maybe even 70 percent, that's what I would personally estimate. They are all still young, from 20 to at most 25 years old.

And a section of these have completely no respect for us women. They tolerate us being here, which they would have to anyway, but they do not take us seriously at all. When I, as a woman, tell them something or provide them with an instruction, they hardly even listen to me, treat it as something unimportant and simply turn to one of my male colleagues. They often only have contemptuous looks left for us women - or even predatory [NOTE: the vocab she uses here is weird. The first word is actually stronger than the second.] They blow wolf whistles after us, then call out to another in a foreign language, which most of my female colleagues and I do not understand, and they laugh. This is really very unpleasant. It's even happened where they took photographs of a colleague with a smartphone. Just like that, with no permission, even when one had protested it. And most recently as I was climbing a flight of rather steep steps, some of the men walked and climbed the steps behind me, and they laughed the whole time, and - I suppose - spoke about me and called me a particular name.

Female colleagues have told me that similar things have already happened to them. They said, however, that there was nothing to be done against such things. That it simply was part of the job. This has happened so often that if you were to file a police report each time or transfer that person away, the facility would be significantly emptier. So they ifnore it and try to not let it get to them - and I just did so afterwards. I just kept walking and looking forward whenever they whistled at or called out to me. I said nothing and did not show it on my face in order not to encourage them, in order to not give them the feeling that they were getting to me or that they could influence me.

And yet, this did not help; it even got worse, to be honest, especially in the past few weeks, as many more men from North Africa, from Morocco, Tunisia or Libya have come into the facility. They were even more aggressive. I then could not ignore it any longer - and reacted. I no longer wanted to be exposed to them.

To put it concretely: I've started to dress differently. I'm honestly someone who likes to wear more fitting clothing at times - but no more. I now exclusively wear wide-cut pants and high-necked tops. I've also never really put on very much make-up anyway, at most a layer of concealer. I've also not only changed myself externally in order to protect myself from these insults, I've begun to behave differently. For example, I avoid going to those places on the premises where these single men often hang out. And when I do have to pass through, then I try to press through very quickly and smile to no one, such that no one can misunderstand it. However, I mostly stay in my small office, and when possible, for even the whole day. I also no longer travel by train to work or back home, as a female colleague of mine had recently been followed by some of the young men to the metro station and was even stalked in the train. I desire to avoid this and hence travel by car.

I know this is all very heavy stuff: dressing differently, avoiding certain rooms and only travelling by car. I myself too find it terrible that I have to do all this and that I have to consider it necessary. But what should I do then, what is the alternative? To simply let myself be ogled at and be teased, that's not the right thing to do. I cannot expect any much help from the officials, neither with this matter, nor with the other problems we're having, not from the regional authories nor from the Federal Office for Migration and Refugees. When one tries to call them, the telephone often simply goes unanswered.

The only thing that's really left for me is quitting. I had up till now considered it out of the question; I really like my colleagues and also the refugee children. And I had been previously so convicted of the job and of the whole matter - it was very difficult to admit to myself that the whole thing was a little different from how it had been imagined. My quitting would thus be this admission. In the meantime, I am thinking in concrete terms about this. Many male and female colleagues also wish to quit, because they can no longer take it, because they can no longer look at how everything here is going pear-shaped and that they can't do anything about that. And if I was to be honest: I too can no longer take it."

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PostSubject: Re: Immigration Issues Tue Jan 19, 2016 6:11 am

Related to the previous shower scenario in Oulu...Now the swimming hall cancelled the refugee ban saying " we shouldn't judge everyone, they are individuals "

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PostSubject: Re: Immigration Issues Tue Jan 19, 2016 8:02 am

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Swedish Government issues new sex education manual for all migrants. 224 pages...

These people actually think that this was the problem, these people having fucking smart phones with internet connection and these people think they have never seen a vagina.
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PostSubject: Re: Immigration Issues Wed Jan 20, 2016 4:11 pm

An even greater flood of refugees is building on Greek island of Lesbos

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PostSubject: Re: Immigration Issues Wed Jan 20, 2016 4:12 pm

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Last January (whole month): 5.550

This January (until) now: 31.381

31.381/18 = 1743 per day.

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PostSubject: Re: Immigration Issues Wed Jan 20, 2016 11:47 pm

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Anti-Mass Migration Party (Alternative für Deutschland) Barred from TV Debates Ahead of German Elections

The anti-mass immigration Eurosceptic ‘Alternative for Deutschland’ (AfD) party is being banned from televised debates ahead of Germany’s local elections in March.

Peter Boudgoust, director of TV station SWR, said his company had taken the decision to exclude the party “through gritted teeth” after the top candidates for the establishment parties had threatened to boycott any debate involving AfD.

Instead, only the top candidates of parties already represented in the local parliaments will be allowed to take part, according to Der Spiegel.

Three German states, Baden-Württemberg, Rhineland-Palatinate and Saxony-Anhalt, are holding elections to their parliaments in March, with AfD expected to make inroads as the backlash against the migrant influx continues.

The party’s co-chairman and leading candidate for Baden-Württemberg, Jörg Meuthen, called the exclusion an “attempt at blackmail” by the state’s governing parties, saying they have a “strange understanding of democracy”.

However, Mr Boudgoust said the main parties left his TV channel with no choice. “Blackmail is only possible if you have several options, but we did not,” he said.

The controversy comes amid falling support for Angela Merkel and Germany’s traditional parties, with one poll even indicating that Angela Merkel’s party has lost nearly half its support since the start of the migrant crisis.

According to a poll for Stern, 44 per cent of voters who backed Mrs Merkel’s Christian Democrats in the last election said they would not do so today, and only 55 per cent of her party’s supporters would vote for her if the chancellorship were directly elected.

In a general election, 37 per cent would vote CDU/CSU (down one since last week), 23 per cent would vote Social Democrat, while Alternativ für Deutschland and the Greens are on 10 per cent each.

Breitbart London reported in October how AfD supporters have popularised the term “Lügenpresse” (liar press) to describe Germany’s mainstream media, especially after newspapers from across the political spectrum feigned outrage when an AfD politician displayed the German flag in a TV debate.

Björn Höcker held up the flag while declaring a “deep love of my country”, leading to media outlets describing him as “confused”, “crazed” and “disgusting”. The German edition of the Huffington Post even compared him to Hitler.

The term “Lügenpresse” eventually gathered so much attention that a panel of linguists voted it ‘non-word of the year’ in Germany.

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PostSubject: Re: Immigration Issues Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:14 am

And 3 years imprisonment for a Hitler salute; how much the Germans are being raped daily by lies, censorship, policies to have them castrated; 70 years of occupation already, massacred, pushed out of their lands, raped, shattered, blamed..

Europa, in so far they deny Germany's right, and keep on blaming them for the past of which too many lies and parasitical motives to have ''compensations'' - deserves to rot away in a grave made of mongrels.
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