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PostSubject: Suicide and the genetic underclass Suicide and the genetic underclass EmptyMon Feb 19, 2018 8:48 pm

I believe self-knowledge can lead to suicide, depending on the self that is being illuminated by that knowledge. My contempt for the psychiatric establishment is based in their unwarranted belief in the irrationality of self-destruction, and the negative self-image. In a system where our metric of comparison with other human beings now encapsulates echelons of success, charisma, beauty, and wealth that would have been practically non-existent in more tight-knit communities (and likely deified, throw a dolled up Angelina Jolie into a guinea village and watch 'em go) it astounds me that, say, the body dysmorphic or genetic failure who has no illusions about his place in the pecking order is the one being "irrational".

We've entered a period in world history where the disparity between human beings is now both impossible to ignore and embellished, accentuated, and absolutized in and through social media. The feminine conditioning is difficult to break for the male who has only the self-awareness of his deficiency to distinguish him from those who are truly lost. In what sense can suicide be an act of affirmation, of masculine rebellion against what is indissolubly feminine oneself? Can it at all? If not, what does the inferior male, groundlessly thrown into his mediocrity, owe the flux that indifferently births him? Does he instead owe it to his better angels? Does nothing matter, but fidelity to self, even if it entails self-annihilation? Can suicide be triumphant, a visceral rejection of a life stifled by fear and compromise, redeemed by a final act of self-deliverance? Or like Weil says, is all suicide imaginary, a last hail Mary for the ineffable lost Object, projected into the beyond of death or simply transposed onto the relief of not having to be oneself anymore? Is the only choice: struggle or die, and there are no transcendent imperatives that are violated or fulfilled by either path? What does conscious inferiority do in today's world?
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PostSubject: Re: Suicide and the genetic underclass Suicide and the genetic underclass EmptyMon Feb 19, 2018 9:00 pm

Suicide is a surrender.
Christianity had to invent a rule to prevent its cattle from quickening their stay in a world they despised, and entering the kingdom of their imagined god.

A warrior does not take his own life.
The end is inevitable, so why would you do so?
A warrior fights even in a lost war.
A warrior lives out his life the best he can, doing his duty to his family, dead and alive.

Inferiority rises....
Goes as far up as it can.

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PostSubject: Re: Suicide and the genetic underclass Suicide and the genetic underclass EmptyMon Feb 19, 2018 9:12 pm

Two ways to deal with inferiority:

1- Cultivate it, not expecting to make it superior but only more than it was.
Cultivate it to its fullest potential.

2- Compensate for it by cultivating what you do have a higher potential in.

Do so for yourself, not for anyone else.

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PostSubject: Re: Suicide and the genetic underclass Suicide and the genetic underclass EmptyTue Feb 20, 2018 12:22 pm

You thematize as a warrior-spirit only psycho-physical elements randomly allotted to you by blind chance. Though that's not to say it is invalidated for that, any more than a naturally cheerful person is faking it.

It offends my reason to think every face up on facesofsuicide.com is up there because they did not stoke this fire. Though I know that's not what you're saying, and fundamentally I don't even disagree with you. But some are born with innate loftiness of spirit and some only a shadow of it I guess I just wanted to commiserate with like-minded people about the infinite injustice of the universe. I guess my point is that sometimes it is life itself that denies itself to those more than willing to receive it. I do not know where my responsibility ends and the responsibility of the world to its creatures begins. Maybe there's only my responsibility, but in that case my surrender of it is registered only by a void, and I owe no one anything. Except for precisely this consciousness that forces my hand. I have no respect for people who have never felt despair in their lives, and it's only they I'll listen to if they tell me to quit bitching. I don't even want to debate. I agree with you. I just wanted to come here and get perspectives on a topic usually filled with inanities and the coddling of invertebrates.

Permanent solution to a temporary problem? There is nothing more permanent than the self the suicide wants to throw off.
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PostSubject: Re: Suicide and the genetic underclass Suicide and the genetic underclass EmptyTue Feb 20, 2018 1:15 pm

Despair is the fuel.
Despair breaks you or strengthens you.
I call it indifference....and it surprised me as it was perceived as confidence.
Indifference towards others and their necessity. Despair is usually associated with our dependence on others, who can only disappoint.

That's when I began exploring.

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PostSubject: Re: Suicide and the genetic underclass Suicide and the genetic underclass EmptyTue Feb 20, 2018 1:32 pm

I want to believe you're posting at the end of the long road I keep refusing to walk. But my pain is the most adaptable of creatures, and it will tell me you began with resources I can't even imagine.

But despair really is the most powerful of solvents. And it's only now called all these weasel-words like "depression" and "anxiety" so we can believe its psychology's equivalent of an rainy day, and not a real sickness of the self.

Maybe you underestimate how far this thirst for what is denied you can follow you even into despair. Maybe you did hit a rock bottom that's nothing compared to mine. Either way, we're alone with ourselves.
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It's been a looooong road.
What is denied to us is what we resent in others.
I realized all people live with secrets, unrequited hopes....dashed dreams.
I studied the human condition.....and through it I knew myself.
When you understand something you are not afraid of it.....no longer surprised by its uncertainties.

I have few hopes.
I have probabilities.
Educated risks...



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