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Indeed...because applied philosophy is not as good as theortics, and endless talk about hypotheticals.
Why connect sociology, and psychology, to real living people, when we can believe in theories about how humans are complex, and all races and sexes are social constructs?
If I were studying cattle, I would never go out, into the field, to study bovines, directly.
I would stay indoors, where I can imagine how these creatures think and behave, in the imaginary fields of my mind, and then create fabulous fantastic depictions of how bovines are, or might be, or could be.
Not so different from humans.
How obsessive primatologists are about primates.
How obsessed with plants, botanists can be.
How obsessed with sex, sexologists remain.
So, if the human animal interests someone, he ought not to pay attention to it, unless he wishes to be accused of being obsessed.

But, after all this time I'm glad Kovacs is back to tell us how he is above it all.
I bet he's walking among the cattle, trying to pretend he's not there...or he is only passing through.
I'll pretend I do not see him.

Oh, and ignore the multiple post not about ILP.
Find one or two, and try to get noticed.
I'm lucky the mule is still bringing traffic my way from the den-of-dimwits.
It's her job, and she does it well.

Applied, philosophy, dear boy, is not ONLY about discussing abstractions and theories, like Transhumanism, but, also, about studying, primarily, the source of this philosophy, which is always human.
Not a theoretical human, but actual humans.
ILP is simply the most convenient forum, and the most diverse in specimens of Modernity, and Nihilistic thinking.
It is a common reference point, for many on KT....like when discussing acquaintances, with friends, or fellow workers, at work.
You discuss the known, what all can relate to because they know the individuals you are speaking of.
It's about petri dish convenience.


When I speak of Nihilistic thinking, I can then use one example from the specimen jar, called ILP, so all can see it think and behaving in real-time, in the real world, over a long period of time...not in a theoretical realm, in our heads.
To observe patterns in the patterns one must study the same specimens, for a sufficient period of time.

The entire gamut of Modern specimens is found on ILP, because of Carleas and his simplicity of motive and mind.
There are, even, examples of the extreme - insane crazies, like iambiguoos and ecmandu.
Also interesting insight into what happens when culling is curbed, permitting unfit genetic combinations to multiply.
On that forum you can also observe the games, the word-games, the mind-games, Moderns play with each other....without being accused of being a peeping Tom.
But the majority are average Modern types, displaying what nihilism and sheltering has done, in the west, after generations of infection.
My interest is the human species...and ILP is the perfect place to study it socializing, thinking, interacting, intercoursing, pretending, lying, manipulating etc.

If this is 'beneath you' then do not indulge...remain in the theoretical, the abstract.
We accommodate that, as well, in case you didn't notice.

Kovacs wrote:

And the whole Lyssa thing is still funny also.

It is, isn't it?
How so?

What "thing"?
The answer might be funny.
Tell me what is so funny, so that I can laugh with you, and not at you.
Show me the quality of your judgment, the sharpness of your mind.

If we, once again, use ILP as our specimen jar, then other than ecmandu, and iambiguous as being the more clearly psychotic examples, we can notice lower grade psychotics, representing the full gamut of Modern degeneracy.
In natural environments such mental disorders would either face an inevitable and predictable end, or they would be routinely and consistently exuded from the gene pool, via the female filtering mechanism.  
But we live in sick times....infected by a memetic virus.

Nature is denied its self-correcting mechanisms and females are now agents of the very same memetic dis-ease, essentially filtering out genetic/memetic health instead of disease: memetic "health" chosen over genetic health, creating the feminine mystique of confusion - internal conflict between the ideal and the real, or her inherited, genetic filtering instincts, versus her pragmatic socially engineered, ideals, filtering out the anti-social, the socioeconomically dysfunctional etc.

Some of the symptoms of this particular dis-ease have been explored in the thread [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], but much more can be explored because each case can be analyzed separately.

Psychosis is not always as overt as in the case of Ecmandu, or Iambiguous, where their insanity is momentarily disturbed by lucidity, and their psychosis by brilliant sparks of reasoning.  
It can be low-grade, subtle, slow to express itself fully, or on a level the average mind cannot fully perceive.
A certain degree of self-knowledge may intuitively attempt to hide madness beneath logic and reasoning, stability, humility, and a balanced demeanour.
But in times of stress, or when the psyche feels uninhibited, it will reveal itself openly and clearly, after a period of defensive scouting the environment.
Many will recognize their own madness in others, like ecmandu, and only perceive it as exaggerated, considering their own low-grade psychosis healthy, by comparison.
His self-aggrandizing "humility", his detachment from reality, his existence in theoretical superiority, his intent to offer a solution, an escape from suffering, an alternate reality, presenting themselves as some kind of reluctant hero, with a mission to raise humanity and save it from itself, the insinuation of personal status standing above the norm, the acceptance of resistance, rejection, as a validation of one's own delusions, the usage of words to disconnect and to promote a desirable conclusion already established as a given, may be pronounced in psychotics, but they are part of many, so called, normal psychologies.  
 
---Messiah Complex - God's Mind, humbling itself before mankind. God as the power derived from the masses that worship, that offer faith - collective spirit, of synergy.
---[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] - lost in ego, dividing self from it: public/private identity - separation of the Ideal from the Real. Meme over(coming) gene - buried past/nature.
---Megalomania - Marketing Intentional Image - power of the declared word, used metaphorically so as to evade detection, or to preserve plausible deniabiltiy- magic of the symbol: psychosomatic effect. Image as the power to gather weakness, ignorance, need, stupidity.
---Institutionalized Autism - Specialization. Superiority of focused Will. Master of one trade - promoted codependency. Multiple wrongs make a right: multiplicity of the singularity, the whole. All is order, awaiting to be channeled, discovered, revealed - omnipresence of God.  
---Google Geniuses - Hive Mind - Collective Intelligence - Equality in the shared - information altruism. Quality lost in quantities: all is uniformity, and ought to be accessible to all. Imitation, regurgitation, of confusing knowing for understanding. Power of collective Subjectivity: there is no objective standard, all is a popularity contest - equality through ignorance (all are equally guilty - sinners), salvation in gnosis.

All consequences of shrinking spaces and growing populations, left un-culled, protected and sheltered from themselves.
A desire to stand-out, from the myriads, with hyperbole, with craziness.

Female's, born to be impressed by masculine bravado, are naturally seduced by linguistic posturing, when physical conflicts are strictly regulated, and prohibited. The male's prowess is, now,measured by how many it can seduce, using feminine reproduction methods - mental epiphanies, substituting for physical orgasms.  
Hunter turns to poet, his spear traded in for a pen, his penis for a marker.
His ability to empathically feel his prey, converted to sympathy seeking nutrition in his prey's psychic energies: validation, confirmation, acknowledgment to feed his hungry emptiness.
All who hunger gather to feast on his scraps.
Madmen feel sane when the world of "sanity" pays them heed; the coward feels brave when the world, governed by morals, and social conventions, pays them respect; the slave feels free when he is paid.

Does anyone recognize detachment?
Nihilistic psychology, connecting to the world via symbols and words.

The text acquires magical properties, as it exposes the mind to noetic depths, it cannot attain directly engaging reality.

Why is a philosophy professor not necessarily a philosopher?
Why is an art critic not, necessarily, an artist?

More than the intellectual daemon, what is missing is courage - the spirit of facing reality head-on, using yourself.
Miserly spirit cowering in academic caverns surrounded by text, where dust never settles for long.
proxies, mediating between them and an incomprehensible, to him, world outside the walls.
There is more to be found in noetic constructs, inside, than in an unforgiving, indifferent, obvious world, outside.
What can compete with the fantasies of a child's mind? Not nature, but the supernatural.
The obvious is cruel, but in the text all is forgiven with a turn of a page.

The idol, like a god, is continually deciphered.
Changing circumstances forcing a new reinterpretation - the work never ends.
To want to see through his eyes, think his thoughts, be him, through the words he wrote, the symbols he scribbled on a once blank slate, transferring his spirit through the ages.
Unable to act, to crate, without his guidance, his direction, his approval.
Effete mind wishes to be written upon - penetrated and fertilized by what he lacks in himself.
He wants to be used, be made a means for the idol's end - give birth to the eternally valuable.

Book smarts are not street smarts.
Too much of one, diminishes the other.
Parable of a nerd....to be a pool of knowledge, and unable to apply it, or to collect it on your own - to be eternally dependent; to be a idiot savant, completely inept in pragmatism, and yet to display a genius in data processing, or in one particular talent.

What an imbecile [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] is....but he's part of the van-clan, so it's to be expected.
"race is a derivative of individual/family"...classic Nihilistic inverted "emoter".
So, the individual is not an expression of a race, just as a individual dog is not an expression of a species.
And family precedes race...so it must also precede species, because race, or breed, is a sub-category of species...it is an intermediate stage towards speciation.
Species with no families are not species?
Individual members of a species are not that species?

And species magically emerge, out of nowhere, they do not gradually detach from common ancestry.

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], on the other hand, the man who once declared that he had solved EVERYTHING, and now does not know what to call a Caucasian/Negroid mix....he calls it "grey race", because in knowing EVERYTHING, he still thinks race means colour.

What would he call a hybrid, ass/horse....if not mule then....a colour combination?
What of a Grizzly and Polar bear mix....an off-white bear?
What of a lion/tiger mix...a brown-striped cat?
Once again, James reminds us why he is still part of ILP.
He fits in, with Ecmandu, and his claim that he's an ancient spirit, who is here to save mankind, from hell.
Any kind of crazy is on display there.
All you have to do is wait and watch.
Some are shy, having been shamed in the past. They are the crypto-crazies.

Some wish to create a warm family, to hug themselves with there adulations - a herd, a school of fish, in a confused chaotic swirl, engulfing them in the center.
Others wish to create warriors, free-spirits, that can fight on their own - wanting only to watch them destroy and create.

A few want both.

When a bird-brained parrot "speaks" it repeats what has echoed in the house ti was born and raised....from when ti was a tiny chick
"Racist"
"You bore me"
"Sexist"
"I find you amusing"
"You do not interest me"

Females tend to go for the genitalia.
"You never satisfied me"
"You have a small penis"
"You aren't man enough, for me"

Children always repeat what they hear around the house.
When they get angry they shout it out, as a defence, to deal with how small and helpless they are.

Unable to pull himself from other's teet, the baby adopts his father's toys, seeing the camel, the lion, as things it has surpassed, and finding, in the image of a child, an image he ascribes to himself.
Is the baby a new beginning, or a suckle on old teets, replacing them for a penis to milk, like a bitch.
Is he a 'god' or a stunted camel, that could not become a lion, so he hid in the sand, until darkness fell, and then he emerged, pretending he was reborn.

What has the lion cub rebelled against when he's never left his father's shadow, nor strayed too far from mother's breast?

What does the camel labour towards, but a distant oasis in the desert?
What does a lion destroy and consume, but weakness and degeneracy?
What is the child reborn as? Indifference to what no longer affects it.

Schopenhauer, Arthur wrote:

Scholars are those who have read in books, but thinkers, men of genius,
world-enlighteners, and reformers of the human race are those who have read
directly in the book of the world.

...words on pages.
Blank pages to be written on, or erased.
Words to arrange and rearrange.

Bible wrote:

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Scholars, can be miserable misers, bent over the page, ignoring world all about them, seeking in words what they fail to see in world...a deeper reality, an alternative to this which frightens and insults them.
Academics of the worse order, arranging and rearranging words on pages, creating books with thousands of words....all trying to comfort, and please, and sell themselves.

Changing words, the Modern God's claim to greatness.
Replace the word 'love' with the word 'god', or 'value'.
Replace the word 'soul' with the word 'self' or 'ego' to make it seem more profound.
Words upon words, pages upon pages, and all of it meaningless gibberish, only triggering emotions, feelings, fantasies, anything to escape a reality where the common man, lacking common sense, can live-out his/her life, untroubled, safe, a master of his domain.

Words as mind-candy, words as toys, for little girls and boys.
Best we reference an "adult" to legitimize our play.
Words referring to more...words.
The freedom from natural order which would limit the child's imagination, forcing it to abide by reality's rule(s).

How pathetic, how desperate and cowardly, do you have to be to seek justifications for race, in social constructs when Evolution Theory has already provided you with a framework?

Anxiety, concerning the issues of race and sex, and homosexuality is expressed in the form of a obsession with how one is to treat this information.
For the Modern, to admit that there are differences between men and women, or the races, si the same as advocating some kind of violence, which they try to stop by denying these differences...essentially lying, or covering up the issue, or obscuring it, so that nobody is hurt.

The topic of what IS, is different form the topic of what "ought to be done about it".
One is ontological, the other moral.

Saul-Well-Ios wrote:

'God' will be called the 'Primordial One'. I want to interpret this Primordial One as both Nietzsche and Spinoza do- an eternal and infinite form or 'being' which has expressed itself through the interactions and activities (or modes) of time, space and energy.

Struggling with his self-deception.
How to remake Christianity in a way that can incorporate Nietzsche's attack on it?
How to merge his messiah's anti-life, anti-real, with pre-Socratic pro-life, pro-real spirituality.
How to bridge Judaism and Hellenism, Nietzsche, his paternal, masculine idol, and Spinoza, his maternal, feminine, spirit.

You know...when someone tells me he is smart, and has measured his IQ and that it is !$), or !^)...i believe him. Because there is no way to determine how smart someone is, except by what he claims, using words.
So I apply this to all areas. When someone tells me he is strong, I cannot judge for myself how strong he is, but how much he lifts, or how he looks....he must tell me, otherwise I am lost in darkness.
When a moron tells me he is smart, declares it, or tells me his intelligence has been measured and he scored high, I am affected by his verbal statement. Because his performance, his ideas and how he presents and defends and rationalizes them, cannot help me to determine his intelligence, unless he tells me himself.
See, words over actions.
it goes back to Judeo-Christianity....the word, the idea, comes before the phenomenon, the act.
If he has an idea that he is smart, then this must usurp any activities.

So, when a moron from ILP tells me he is genius, MENSA material, I cannot judge his/her performance by how he thinks, posts his thinking, argues his/her positions...his/her assertion, takes precedence.
Words are first.
following the same genius 'logic' if someone tells me he is strong, I have no other way to judge the validity of this verbal claim...words preceded actions, and appearances are superficial.
If he says he can bench 400 lbs, I accept it as fact.
If he defines strength as love, and claims to be strong because he loves mass, then that is also a fact I must accept, despite my perception of actions and appearances.

In the end all that matter sis that we love and comfort one another....because that's true philosophy.
Are we not all strong and lovable, and precious, simply because we exist?
yes...even you crippled half-wit....despite living no life-support, and being protected and taken care of and protected from your own feebleness.....you too are precious because you exit...and you too, fat ugly chick are sexy, because you exist...and you too retarded schizophrenic are valuable because you exist, and you too pedophile and necrophiliac, defended by a system, from a certain violent death...you too are worthy of praise...because you exist...and if one day e place a brain in a vat, and tend to it...it too will be good and valuable, because it will be existing.

Those who profess to be 'beyond good and evil' have replaced it with the secular good and bad, and the Abrahamic god with a Primordial "one".
They remain as Judeo-Christian as they ever were...dreaming of reinventing Christianity in a post-Nietzsche world.

Existence is neither good or bad.
Neither.
Good/Bad only mean something in relation to an intent, conscious or otherwise.
All value judgments are meaningless without a goal, a motive, an objective.
If Saully wishes to imply that existence intends human life, then he should stop pretending to not be an Abrahamic Nihilist.....worshiping an icon that contradicts him.  
If this reality, void of good/bad, or a one anything, is considered 'negative' by him, then Saully is exposing how fragile and still stuck in Abrahamic Nihilism he truly is.
What a hypocrite.
The entire van clan are a band of actors, circus of clowns - pretenders.

As I've noted before, and Saully refuses to acknowledge, preferring to reduce me to an absurdity he can compete against with his "130+ IQ".......existence can only be considered positive, for a living organism that is made possible within it.
Void of absolutes, including a ONE by any name, it still remains positive...in that it is interactive, dynamic.
That feeble spirits still need the absolute to make existence tolerable, hints at the reason why they've made Nietzsche an icon, corrupting him by making him a shadow of Spinoza.
Such effete spirits latch onto anything that seems more masculine than themselves. So, from icon they go to idol, replacing it with a shamanic leader...like bitches looking for the top bull in the cow herd, to fertilize their vacant mind-womb.
Emasculated males, men-children, have the psychology of females...they need a superior masculine entity to stand behind, to belong to, to gain power by association, through.

Again, for Saully, the new Messiah's new Saul...
Existence is neither good or bad, neither good or evil....neither positive or negative.
Objectively speaking.
It is so only for life, for living organism who care about surviving, at all costs, and have now declared survival of anything a universal 'good'.

It is so only in relation to a goal, an intent, an ideal, a motive, an end.
Only conscious living organisms have those.
Cosmos has no end, no intent, no motive, no goal, no care...no self...only momentum.

So, yes, for living organisms who are not cowards and nit-wits or, to use his idol's language, are not herd manimals, reality, void of absolutes, including God, One, whole...is positive.
That weakling need a oneness, a god, a deus, a conatus, to make it positive, only exposes how feeble they are, and why they are nihilists, following around degenerate charlatan, repackaging an old dis-ease, and renaming an ancient mental illness...replacing 'love' with 'value'....to love loving love...and circular self-referential bullshyte of that Abrahamic kind.

No absolute means...no one.
No whole.
No Perfect, no Absolute.
One is an abstraction, a noumenon, a mental construct, helping the organism conceptualize fluidity, Flux.

The van clan is now accepting and permitting imbeciles to wear their sacred hoodies - a symbolic foreskin for the one they've chopped off.
It is because they measure quality with quantities...and their "philosophy" requires diseased minds to exist, having no existence in the exoteric...like a virus.

To a naive romantic idealist, the real world seems a negative place...and those who remind him of it, are considered agencies of negation. The negation of his delusions.
Those who burst his pseudo-intellectual bubbles, are bigots and angry vindictive bastards, who refuse to comfort and flatter him with soothing words and lies.  

To a liar, all truth is a negative.

To a hypocrite, integrity is a negative.

To a coward, courage is a negative.

To the ill, health is a negative, because being ill is all he knows, is all he can do to receive sympathy, kindness, love. His sickness get him tender attention - acknowledgment, so it must be good, it must be positive, because illness help him survive.

To an imbecile, intelligence is a negative.

To a boy, the father's tough love is cruel and negative.
He wants mammas forgiving, warm embrace....her soft bosom, her fairy-tales.

To a creature living in darkness, all light is intolerably negative. He's inverted reality, and now calls his darkness a superior, esoteric light.

When a mind is unable to make sense of the world directly, incapable of tolerating the light, he buries his head in books, or engages world through a proxy, a mediating, icon, a worshiped deified icon.
He finds representations of this icon, blowhard pretenders, bad imitations...to make it real.
He calls his darkness an esoteric light....his glowing spirit, fed by sycophants who comfort, and flatter his feeble essence.
His little candle light burns brightest when air is blown into it, having no great internal source of energy, but a small wick, flickering delicately in the winds, behind sturdy idealized walls.
He calls those who tell him nice things, who comfort and tell him how smart and creative he is...good...and those who expose him to himself, and what he truly is....bad...negative...cruel....

Dolarhyde...cleft-palate, split lip...speaking from both sides of his mouth - splintered mind.
Cleft tongue - the reptile, the snake slithering under cover.
Cold Blood, lacking internal fire...seeking it from external sources - sun, fire in the proverbial Platonic cave.
Wanting to see himself reflected in the eyes of others not in pieces but complete, whole, one.
Blind girlfriend, who does not see what he is - innocence.  

Wants to kill Hannibal, because he cannot be the Red Dragon with his presence in the world.
Works in darkness, prefers the night, not wanting to be seen before his transformation is completed.
Weakness dreaming of becoming something powerful - fragility wanting to become menacing, strong, durable.

Symbols he wears, thinking they transform his body.
He consumes art, symbols, words, wanting to absorb their essence - their power.

One more time, because retardation is increasing by the minute:
There are no absolutes, other than noetic, linguistic, because language is a representation of noetic construct.
Facts are not absolutes...they are representations of relationships in world.

All value judgments are juxtapositions, expressions of relationships.
Value judgments are either successful or unsuccessful, more or less accurate.
There is no one, no whole, no God, no absolute.
There is only process, interacting, inter-relating.
There is no positive/negative, no good/bad, but only in relation to an organism - a life.  

Self only means something when there is memory - it refers to a continuum of memory. DNA is a form of memory.
Stones, clouds, water, particles have no memory, ego to use the word 'self' is a linguistic convention - a metaphor, not a description of an actual fact.
With no memory there is no Self, in the proper application of the word/symbol.

Value, Love are meaningless outside living organic relating - outside consciousness.
They describe a relationship, in relation to an intent, a goal, an objective, a goal, a motive.

Power , strength, is a measure of weakness - not omnipotence.
Objectivity is a measure of objectivity - not absolute awareness.
Knowing/Understanding is a measure of ignorance - not omniscience
Freedom/Independence is a measure of contingency, dependence.
Everything is degrees, not absolutes.
Only in the abstracting mind that reduces all to mental models, noetic constructs, is the absolute created/constructed by simplifying/generalizing, or imploding flux into an ambiguous thing, a singularity.
Because, just like the body needs a skin, a membrane, an exoskeleton, to differentiates its organizing from fluctuating disorganizing world, so does the mind need wholes to process a fluctuating, dynamic existence.

Values refer to ideals.
Ideals are either more or less realistic.
Not all values, judgment, ideals are equally realistic.
The word 'value' like the word 'self' is meaningless outside living contexts.
Value refers to a measurement, a judgment, a standard, referring to a goal, an objective.
Since world has none of this, only in relation to a conscious, living, organism can the word 'value' be applied.

It's funny how the one who wishes cancer on others, at the slightest hint of resistance, is now using insult to pretend he is the one who can appreciate existence.
Tolerating means, to the half-breed, deluding himself.
Using words not to clarify but to bury existence under heaps of lies, and delusions, to make it go away...and on top of the burial mound build fantasy alternatives, suing words arranged in whatever manner he pleases.
Using his method, even a retard can build the most appealing monument to his stupidity, and then invite his retarded friends to live in their special, private, universe, where all worship him.
For someone who claims to be able to take a challenge, he sure runs away fast.
I was banned from ILP otherwise he would be running away form there, as he did from KT.
Never pulled a tantrum...made others have fits, forcing them to banish me.

Maybe all he needs are simpletons, lost desperate boys, to flatter and pretend he's a wise man, calling this "productive"...a true heir of Nietzsche, and not expose him as what he truly is: another Abrahamic wannabe Messiah...with a huge chip on his narrow shoulders.
A miser.
Misinterpreting Nietzsche comes easier than misinterpreting Satyr...because Satyr lives and can and will correct their sorry arses, whereas the other doesn't....so they can put any meaning to his words they want....like the Primordial One, or now interpreting him in a new Abrahamic way.

Run away little obtuse bunny.
Run every time your nature is exposed...and be grateful to ILP's moderating tram protecting you from the likes of me.
At least Saully has the courage to admit that he visits and reads every post made on KT.
His hypocrisy lies in how he intentionally or because of a mental inadequacy, despite his reported 130 IQ, misinterprets of fails to comprehend what is being posted....Jakoff's hypocrisy is worse...because it's rooted in his essence.

He pulls a hissy-fit, and stomps-off, screaming that it will be a dark day in hell before he returns to where he isn't loved and appreciated.
After a few days with the boys healing his wounds, he returns wearing the same masks, he shares with his support group. He shares everything, even his love of self, even his masks, with the 'boys', which he calls 'friends'.
He pays them to be friends....with gifts of praise, like a father, not wanting to stifle his baby boys development...so fragile and sweet, like daddy.  

...bring your own drugs to get the full experience.
We, certainly, have not had that 'spirit' here, since...1969.

God must be Greek because the bible, his word, was written in that language.

Some delusional "failosophies' are language specific.
They only make 'sense' in that language, and are nonsense in every other.
Perhaps the uni-verse, is versed in Dutch, or German, and losing its meaning in Mandarin, or Greek.
Perhaps a word centered delusion, using self-referential dim-tit methodology, is only comprehensible among the dim-witted, and those desperate enough to believe in any absurdity, because last I checked, world is common, and speaks no language.....but language emerged to refer to it.
Sure, different tribes, different races, display their attitude to nature, their relationship to world, through language, but that describing world, philosophically, can make sense only in some languages and be self-referential bullshyte in every other is, I admit a justification I had not encountered before.

We must invent a special kind of mathematics, I hear, to make delusional crap appear or be deep and meaningful.
The math we are using now, it being a language that the universe does not speak, seems to be inadequate when trying to grasp the profound insanity of these not-wits.  
Christianity never thought of claiming that the math science uses is not good enough to prove the existence of God, and that a new kind of 'spiritual' math and geometryy had to be invented to describe and prove their God,

1= love
0=hate

1=good
0=bad

Something like that.

You know, when need is placed before perception, then it is like Plato's metaphor of the charioteer psyche - the horses hold the reigns attached to the rider, who is pulling the chariot.
Inversion, through and through

Word before deed.
Cause before effect.
Life before existence.
Subjective before objective.
Art before world.
Superiority, before merit.
Value before judgment.

And on and on....down the degenerating path of this memetic, mental dis-ease.

Douche-bag, degenerates can only talk about other people\s thoughts, or what they think these thoughts are.  
They never talk about the world, directly, they only discuss about what some other said about world, or what they think some other said about world.
This other is usually some iconic figure, such as Jesus, Marx, Nietzsche, Freud...or whomever is popular among the crowd douche-bags seek approval, or to rise in status.
They exist within world, the world surrounds them and continuously engages them, but they cannot engage back without some mediating go-between, a proxy they stand BEHIND', so as to not stand forth.
The icon is some famous figure who must be dead, otherwise what these douche-bags think he said would be challenged by the icon himself...so the idol, has to be dead, so that degenerates can claim they understood best, or they represent the icon's ideas the best.
The world, of course, has no place, so whether what they, or the icon is saying about it, cannot be validated directly..
The dialogue is between interpretations of interpretations of world., and every interpretation is as likely as any other if it remain consistent and has a few quotes, by the icon, that seem to support a particular translation, or that are ambiguous, metaphorical enough, to lend themselves to some artistic leeway.
This is academic philosophy, if it can even be called philosophy.
It's a debate over who represents the particular icon/idol perfectly.
The world itself is insignificant, or enters the scene indirectly, like background noise.
It's a posturing challenge over knowledge, because most douche-bags haven't come to their interpretations of their own, but have read some analysis by a third-party, which sounded good, and they've adopted.

We're getting the picture now....a conflict over who translated, or adopted the most accurate translation, of an interpretation of the world by an icon and/or idol, who is popular among a specific crowed.
Direct perception of world is not in play. no conflict over who interpreted the world, directly, and accurately.

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Morality is an evolved method of relating, Evolved to facilitate heterosexual reproduction, which then evolved into social behavior, facilitating cooperative survival strategies.
Reason is defined as...

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Reason is the capacity for consciously making sense of things, applying logic, establishing and verifying facts, and changing or justifying practices, institutions, and beliefs based on new or existing information.

...so to say that Nietzsche was anti-reason would contradict his attempt to make sense of reality.
There is no truth...I agree, for 'truth' refers to a perspective which is more or less accurate. I guess that also makes me a post-modernist.
'Will to power' sounds awful lot like a 'truth'.

But why perspectivism?
Because existence is fluid, always changing - because all perspectives are incomplete, partial, superior or inferior - in other words because there is no absolute.
No absolute does not mean no superior/inferior.
The desire to incorporate Nietzsche into Abrahamic post-modernism follows the attempt to disassociate Judaism from Christianity.
This is how they want to reinvent Abrahamism by incorporating Nietzsche...just as Judaism was reinvented by incorporating a selective reading, and interpretation, of the Greeks.
He was against the modern scientific notion that all had an order, a rational explanation - Apollonian.
Alexandrian: all that exists can be known and understood, because chaos is complexity hiding a deeper order.

I call chaos the counter-intuitive nature of existence - randomness, lacking all order. Not complexity, as many degenerates define chaos.
I guess this makes me a post-modernist, for these clowns, because now they can claim that all is subjective and all is a human construct.
Wrong!

Of course the offspring of Judaism would come in conflict with the mother.
Daughters always do.
Marxism was against Christianity when they were the same dogma disagreeing on the existence of an absolute one god.
The same virus can have conflicting strains.
Jesus - Semite. Not a Jew. He rebelled against Judaism and its spiritual elitism.
Marx - Semite. A secular Jew.
Christianity wanted to incorporate segments of Hellenism, namely Plato, to become cosmopolitan, the other was more esoteric, restrictive, did not even proselytize, wanted a closed-clan of the chosen - only they would be saved.
This is why Judaism was hated, and why Christianity had to remedy this and make Judaism more inclusive by adopting some Hellenism - whatever was Parmenides based, as opposed to Heraclitus based .
But what's even more interesting is how the name Nietzsche seems to be an argument on its own.
The douche-bag, on ILP, gives us no quotes where Nietzsche is anti-reason, but feels that if he mentions the name, he's made an argument, because even if he has expressed anti-reason sentiments then that he did is like Jesus saying it.
The weight of the name, among degenerates of a specific kind, is astounding.

I am reminded of how Saul reinterpreted the world of another icon, Jesus, to create an antithesis to his teachings, by claiming it was what the icon/idol had meant.
Why do you think Nietzsche was so understanding of the Jesus figure?
He was a Dostoevskean romantic rebel, a fool, who would be abused after death, as he was in life - his words twisted to construct a Church with a new Pharisee elite.  
Nietzsche's words are twisted, by degenerates, associating him with leftist, with Marx, to create a new Abrahamic religion.

Christianity's failure to synthesize the contradictions between Judaism and Hellenism, exposed it to the critique of Nietzsche.
It is outdated, and must be replaced with a new version of Christianity that might incorporate segments or a reinterpretation of Nietzsche to make it more durable, at least to his kind of critique.
The virus adapts - evolves.
The reasons Nietzsche was anti-anti-Semitic, are: you do not hate something for being what it is, or what it can ever be; those who adopt a perspective to cope, to survive....you do not hate those who identify with being hated - playing into their victim-psychology...you do not hate a virus, you analyze, study it, and protect yourself from it - you immunize yourself to it. Hating it will do you no good, and it will invigorate it, if it identifies with being the ones chosen to suffer on behalf of God....Semite is a tribal category, genetics. Jewish in not. Judaism is, like Christianity, an idea(l), that wants to become tribal - memetics.
You do not hate the tribe infected by the dis-ease Judaism, no more than you hate the Germans for being infected by Christianity, or for being presently infected by post-modernism - Nihilism is the name of the memetic virus.
Whether it manifests in variations like Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Marxism, Humanism, post-modernity, Transhumanism is a separate issue.

Yet...from the idol's pen this...

Nietzsche wrote:

Could one count such dilettantes and old spinsters as that mawkish apostle of virginity, Mainlander, as a genuine German? In the last analysis he probably was a Jew (all Jews become mawkish when they moralize)(TGS 357).

A clear distinction between being a "genuine German" and a Jew.

This blatant attempt to distance Judaism from Christianity, and Marxism, is necessary for them to then dismiss Nietzsche devastating critique of Christianity.
How could they synthesize into Judaism the one who destroyed a variant of Judaism, and since they are idol worshipers, they believe this synthesis will inject Judaism with Pagan power, to convert it into a stronger Zionism virus.
Nietzsche is the key, in thir mind, to remake a secular Christianity - not Marxism, because that failed to materialize, but a post-modern humanism, to be given a makeover, and a fresh exciting new name.
Venus project failed.
Humanism is too confusing, because it sounds too much like 'human' with its biological connotations, and references to natural order.

This new form of secular degenerate uses the name Nietzsche as a show-stopper - a 'this conversation is done', piece, an exclamation point.
As if Nietzsche said it, so end of conversation.
It's typical of emasculated men-boys.
The Marxist used to use Marx in the same way, or Lenin.
Christian degenerates used Scripture, and Jesus.

It seems the announcement of God's death, took them by surprise.
Like little duckling, emerging out of their egg, they imprinted on the first one they saw - which was The one that cracked the egg shell to help them be reborn as a secular douche-bag.
The death of God seems to have created much anxiety in the herd. The shepherd is dead, where shall the bovines sleep, tonight, where shall they find food and water?

They look around and there stands the one who appears to have killed him...a dude with a rather large moustache.
So, they begin to follow him, having no place to go.

For me, so and so said it is not an end in the conversation but a beginning, or a short pause.
See, I don't give a shit who said what....because world is my standard and my guide, and I have direct and immediate access to the world.
I may consult a guide to help me determine what the hell I am looking at, but I do not need eyes to see for me, or a brain to think for me, or a consciousness to judge and discern patterns  
I listen to my guide with rapt attention, and am grateful for his help, but then I compare what he said with what I see...or sense.

I never needed a god, or an idol, or a hero, or a leader....so god's death, and his subsequent absence did not leave any void in my life.
Nobody broke me out of my egg-shell, my cocoon....I broke through, and there was nobody there...so I explored on my own.  
In time I met some companions, some mentors, some guides, and a whole lot of morons, douche-bags and degenerates.

Sure, I respect the judgment of a wise man, or a man who has proven himself by the accuracy of his insights, more than I respect, or pay attention to morons and imbeciles....but I do not accept all his judgments, and insights as a given.
I test them. I validate them on my own.
I make them my own.
I even do so with morons and imbeciles, because I've found that a retard can say something smart, once in a while.
You just never know when this will happen.
I listen to morons and only dismiss them when I've heard their idiocies before.

Again....Why I am not an anti-Semite.

1- You cannot be against something, or someone, for being what it is.
You cannot be anti-bacteria, or anti-lion, or anti-Indo-European, or anti-virus without being anti-nature.
You do not hate something or someone for being what it evolved to be.
you may combat it, study it to deal with its existence, and to prevent from being harmed by it, but you do not hate it.
Hate, like love, like all emotions are automatic reactions to stimuli - they cloud reason, they do not clarify it.
Emotions can be used to take advantage of millions of years of evolution, and genetically stored knowledge/data, to be applied as intuition, as passion to motivate one against what threatens, but not to illuminate, and to understand.

2- Semite is a tribal, genetic designation.
Semite indicates a bloodline, which in this case is carried forth through matrillineally.
Semite is not the same as Jew...though the Semites invented Judaism to come with their lowly tribal status.
Being Christian is not the same as being of German blood, or Greek, or Italian.
Christian, like Judaism, or Marxism are ideologies - memes.
You can fight communism without being anti-Russian. Russians may have carried the meme, made it flourish, identified with it, but Russian is a genetic designation of a sub-category, a bloodline within the Indo-European genetic family, whereas Communism, Marxism, is an idea(l), invented by a Jew.
Fighting against communism does not mean you hate Russians, or all tribes infected by this variant of the Nihilistic dis-ease.

3- Victimizing Jews, plays into their self-identity.
Hating Jews invigorates their sense of self - their earthly mission, to be the designated victims for their mono-god's sake.
They are 'chosen' to suffer, so making them suffer reaffirms their identity.
Hating those who, according to their own dis-ease, were placed on the earth to be hated, is playing into their sickness.
Their identity is rooted in this role, to such a degree, that they deny it to all other degenerates.
This is why Christianity opposed Judaism, and was an adaptation of the same dis-ease. Christianity, like Islam proselytized, they gladly offered salvation to all sickly, feeble, desperate individuals across tribal, genetic lines...sometimes by force. Christianity in its early days, and Islam to the present.
Judaism is victim-psychotic elitism.
All tribes think of themselves as superior to all other tribes, but in this case the inversion attempts to evade testing this claim.
They find pride in humility, in humiliation, degradation, degeneration.
The more you humble, humiliate, degrade them, the more they bond with one another.

This [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] who is just the latest reincarnation of the same moron that follows the Messiah around for some self-loving, salvation, perceives Will to Power as the will to reinvent yourself, so as to escape your feebleness in a previous manifestation....that changing your name, pretending not to be who you were, somehow saves you, protects you from your own genetic inferiority.

This moron denies race, for this reason.
He follows a tending way of escaping past, trying to not be held accountable to centuries of nurturing = nature.
He simply declares race as a social construct, but cannot explain how, if this is the case,  species are produced.
if not gradually, producing intermediate genetic stages, then how?
Overnight...miraculously, magically?
And, if during these periods of genetic isolation that produced such obvious physical differences, how did environment affect the body, and left the mind, the brain, unaffected?
If this is what he is implying, because we have to speculate, since he does not dare expose the depths of his idiocy. He only knows he knows Nietzsche....and that he was another post-modernist, and because Nietzsche was critical of Darwin's theory, then this means that it is concluded, Evolution does not work.
How, then did intelligence evolve?
Magically?
Suddenly?
Spontaneously?
How did consciousness evolve?
Overnight?
One day there were plants everywhere and then poof, there appears an amoeba, and then a few centuries later, poof, overnight, a higher organism appears out of nowhere...no gradual process, but miraculous events distributing traits uniformly.
Then what exactly is naturally selected?
Pleasure, like some degenerates like to think.

For degenerates of this intellectual level race, like breeds, are not about inherited trait potentials, but social constructs....implying that species is also a social construct, because race/breeds or whatever name you give to the particular intermediate stage of speciation, is a human fabrication.
They hope.
They hope because if it is not so, then they are not as free to imagine themselves gods, as they like to feel that they are.
Will to power, for these desperate lowlifes is a will to Locke's tabula rasa....to wipe your genetic slate clean and then rebuild yourself a god, or just declare yourself one.  
Declare yourself anything, because words/symbols are powerful magical instruments the will uses.
Look at the powerful effect the word Nietzsche has over their pathetic minds...as the name/word Jesus, or Allah, has on a different strand of this degeneration.

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We exist to feel pleasure, or is pleasure a sensation of meeting needs?
Do we eat to survive, or because it feels good?
Why do we defalcate? Is it because ti feels good?
Why do we feel good when massaged? because our muscles evolved to be massaged?
Why does it feel good?

If practices take on additional functions over time, like food taking, preparation, displaying, evolved into a social ritual, a symbolism, from gene to meme, does this mean we evolved the orifices, the organs, the practice for these subsequent functions, or because eating felt good?
Does existence care for our pleasures?  Do we exist to pleasure ourselves?
Is the cosmos running on Hedonism?
Smoking crack feels good as well. Did we evolve to smoke crack?
Is our mouth the perfect shape for smoking?
To pedophiles it feels good to rape children.
Necrophiliacs feel pleasure fucking cadavers.

We evolved to drink water, did we then invent alcohol as an alternative way to drink liquids that felt good?

Religion = a cult that goes mainstream.
Postmodernity is becoming a religion, as Marxism is.
This is why it competed with Judeo-Christianity.

Religion = spirituality for the masses.
Philosophy dumbed-down so that the mediocre can participate, with a rudimentary, emotional understanding of the concepts.
Religion makes the ideal approachable by the average dumbass.
Religion = opium of the people....which was replaced by Marxism, now morphing into post-modernity
Class struggle expressed as identity crisis.
Religion = organized spirituality...using a central dogma...as did Marxism, Judaism, Christianity, Islam...but not paganism, never Hinduism.

Bond of True Philosophers across Time & Space

A pagan, a realist, will know that different perspectives will reach the same general conclusions, about the world, because world is common, whereas perspectives are not.
The degenerate, narcissist, will believe he has exclusive knowledge of the world, which only he, and his ilk, know, and that if others know it, independently, that they stole it, from him.
This is why Nietzsche is such an iconic figure for men-children of a particular kind of hyper-masculine, overcompensating, narcissistic psychosis.
The fact that Nietzsche did not say anything unique, but only took a ancient philosophy, attitude, and brought it up to date in a post-Christian, alludes them.
That Nietzsche just verbalized psychotic insights many shared, alludes them.

They think that before Nietzsche none of this was available.

This is how they approach all their own nihilistic detached from relativity, views.
Because their vies are nonsensical abstractions that have little, if anything to do with the real world, they can claim that their delusions are unique, because nobody else can be psychotic, in the same way - subjectivity.
Any view that speaks honestly, courageously, and clearly about a common existence, will expect to meet minds that share the same general views, having reached them independently.
The only thing they can claim is a deeper insight, perhaps. A view that connects phenomena in ways the common man cannot, or perceives details that the common mind cannot....but once verbalized the reaction is one of re-cognition....an un-covering of what was always right before their eyes.
Pagans speak of 'truth' as a raising of the veil of ignorance...a re-calling.  

The one who speaks clearly, truly, insightfully, produces re-cognition in those who intuitively knew, or felt what was going on but could not speak it, form it into a distinct and clear abstraction.
Nothing is coerced....nothing unique is spoken, nothing occult is revealed.
The one who hears something about the world which he can validate, has experienced, he can test....will not experience the revelation as something occult, new, unique, but will stand in awe at what was always before his eyes, always apparent, but he could not articulate, or illuminate.

I've been constructing my philosophical views since I was a boy. They came together, in my mind, during the late nineties. I wrote The Feminization of Man in the nineties.
Do I claim those who now speak of feminization stole the idea from me?
No....because what was evident, to me, early on, became clear for others later.
They reached the same conclusion, no their own.
I've thought the thoughts I later shared, going back to the nineties.
I read Nietzsche late nineties, and he put words to concepts I was already aware of, and articulated psychological insights using language I could not use, at the time.
He un-covered what I already knew was true...as did Schopenhauer, and all the intellectuals I read, each to a greater or lesser extent.
I, then, in turn did the same to others.  
Other will then do the same to others....and so on.

Nobody invents reality.
Each reports on it, to his own particular mental and physical ability, talent with language, honesty/integrity, courage, and intelligence.
are my metaphysical positions on patterns, and chaos/order unique/
No.
Others have used different imagery, metaphors, to express the same...perhaps with some subtle differences.
How could not different minds, with the same motive, the same talents, integrity, not reach the same conclusions when we all share the same world?
Subjectivity is about a common Objective world.

Only in Nihilism where detachment is the goal, can the surreal, the supernatural, the bizarre, the inventively cowardly, claim uniqueness, or originality, because only when the mind detaches from world can it create its own private reality, with its own private symbols/words/language others have to be trained, indoctrinated to decipher.
So, when you come across a douche-bag who claims to have invented something unique, or that knows of the absolute, you can rest assured that you've come across a narcissist, who is overcompensating for a deep secret self-doubt, and sense of inferiority.

Unique - a rearrangement of the perceived, which in the case of philosophy must follow a pre-exiting order - natural order.
What is unique in philosophy is the language, the imagery, the metaphors used to describe the same phenomena, each one implying an extra little something, that cannot be justified empirically.
What is extraordinarily unique is madness, schizophrenia, insanity, because detachment from natural order leaves the mind free to make any combinations it wishes to fabricate in order to cope, or to compensate for its its fragility, and its inadequacy.

True philosophers share a spirit that can recognize the other in a room full of lesser minds. A look of lonely commitment, that has spent years in the desert, finally finding the same oasis.
They may use different languages, different symbols, different metaphors, but what they are describing is the same watering hole, the same world; what is apparent to all.
They instantly recognize the pretender, who has been given a map to the oasis, or the one who wanting to raise his status, claims to have found a deeper well.

They also can smell a liar who has found nothing but sand in his own brain.
This is why it is important to use words precisely, and not to combine them in strange, nonsensical configurations, or to use an inappropriate word to describe a phenomena already named.

Ironic that those who disparage the SJW's, and their rejection of sex differences, use the same principles to reject race.