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PostSubject: Re: Forums Mon Nov 02, 2015 4:13 pm

@Neon
Listen, deafened and copywriting thief, to you philosophy is a reactionary mode of inception (insemination as inseminated) exemplified by, in too much repetitivity, how your delimitation displayed as competitive/declarative/accusative insecurities (I see you are saying "small ego" among a lexicon of other terminology now after I described and named you as one) is endpointed at the baseline of proactionary conception (insemination as inseminating).
That is, you can provoke but not invoke; agitate but not instigate: then brilliance must be the possession of how loudly and aggressively (testosteronicly) and oftenly a challenge is professed.
Least resistance is in breaking down or disordering which is why you can't withstand/resist the most resistance in bringing up or ordering.
Perspectively [for you], it's plainly terse: since others aren't preoccupied with your revolution, which comprises reactions against the object of your preoccupations, then they must be cohorts, nay, followers, subservients or "mind-slaves." Now, this supplies the indications of your fundamental preoccupation of authority and positioning within it, hence how you always state proclamations of your placement in hierarchy as well as assuming the placement of others in it as responsiveness to their positioning and with others and with you.
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PostSubject: Re: Forums Mon Nov 02, 2015 4:36 pm

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@Neon
Listen, deafened and copywriting thief, to you philosophy is a reactionary mode of inception (insemination as inseminated) exemplified by, in too much repetitivity, how your delimitation displayed as competitive/declarative/accusative insecurities (I see you are saying "small ego" among a lexicon of other terminology now after I described and named you as one) is endpointed at the baseline of proactionary conception (insemination as inseminating).
That is, you can provoke but not invoke; agitate but not instigate: then brilliance must be the possession of how loudly and aggressively (testosteronicly) and oftenly a challenge is professed.
Least resistance is in breaking down or disordering which is why you can't withstand/resist the most resistance in bringing up or ordering.
Perspectively [for you], it's plainly terse: since others aren't preoccupied with your revolution, which comprises reactions against the object of your preoccupations, then they must be cohorts, nay, followers, subservients or "mind-slaves."
Interesting how in spite of your own projections, you do not disagree nor explain how I'm wrong even if you could disagree......

It's a simple challenge. What is the standard being used here, for change, for ideals, for virtue, for nobility, and how is your standard not based on subjective, personal, opinions?

Where is your so-called loyalty to reality? Where is your demonstration of any "noble" elements you, hypothetically, possess?

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PostSubject: Re: Forums Mon Nov 02, 2015 4:42 pm

Neon wrote:
It's a simple challenge.  What is the standard being used here, for change, for ideals, for virtue, for nobility, and how is your standard not based on subjective, personal, opinions?

Are you challenging that views are only ever based on personal pleasure, benefit, advantage?

Are you challenging its impossible to not live like neon-flashing memememe hedonistic animals?


Doubt yourself some.

Keep calm and be a 'philosopher'.

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PostSubject: Re: Forums Mon Nov 02, 2015 4:45 pm

After pages upon pages of text, of posts; essays explaining all of this in the simplest way possible, that someone would ask this.....incredible.

How many pages can I write, dealing with this subject matter, before it is enough?
On the subject of Nihilism alone I've made, at least, half a dozen threads.
Nobility has been dealt with, reality defined, explaining the method of determining what is more and what is less probable also described, in repetitive detail.....
Oh well, what more can one do?
And why would one care to do anything?

For the simpletons no amount will do.
The problem is in their brain...a mental limitation they've inherited, or is a product of nurturing.

Stupidity is its own defence.
Nothing to do with it but exploit it, if possible, or walk away listening to their declarations of victory.

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PostSubject: Re: Forums Mon Nov 02, 2015 4:49 pm

Neon's not serious. He wants to pretend to be a debater to console himself that he is doing something significant and testing himself with the most absurd claims.

A rock lives forever.

I say yes, definitely, and whatever.

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PostSubject: Re: Forums Mon Nov 02, 2015 4:51 pm

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Are you challenging that views are only ever based on personal pleasure, benefit, advantage?
No, I'm demonstrating that these so-called "realists", like satyr, cannot justify themselves in demonstrating their so-called "realistic standards". I'm challenging them to demonstrate how reality is other than their ideals, based upon their desires and opinions. So far they demonstrate nothing, as expected. Even satyr contradicts himself, claiming that "all is in flux", except when it's not. And what about these exceptions? I added context. If a rock is sitting on the ground, and no force applies to it, does it disappear about 1 billion years? Does it grow larger? No, nothing happens. It does not change. It is not "in flux". Because change requires context.


By challenging their standard, their judgment, they expose themselves, one by one.
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PostSubject: Re: Forums Mon Nov 02, 2015 4:56 pm

li'l Erik cannot endure her life-in-mono on her own forum, cannot endure her own self in solitude, that retard accuses others of being lonely… a classic troll.

Painting werewolves absurdly as feminine-killers, its almost as if she's dying to prove my case on effete hypermasculinity for me.

Its tragic when li'l infants can mimic, imitate, read books and excerpt without a clue abt. what it is to be a man. These days, its in vogue to call yourself a sufferer of OCD and such, just to feel special.. any attention is good to a primal slut.

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PostSubject: Re: Forums Mon Nov 02, 2015 4:58 pm

The rock is apart of the forces, it too can be eroded, change in shape, consistency in solidity, weight upon the earth. Only in your video games, on pause, the rock will never be pressured by other forces. But life is not like that, a rock without forces surrounding it.
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PostSubject: Re: Forums Mon Nov 02, 2015 4:58 pm

Æon wrote:
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Are you challenging that views are only ever based on personal pleasure, benefit, advantage?
No, I'm demonstrating that these so-called "realists", like satyr, cannot justify themselves in demonstrating their so-called "realistic standards".  I'm challenging them to demonstrate how reality is other than their ideals, based upon their desires and opinions.  So far they demonstrate nothing, as expected.  Even satyr contradicts himself, claiming that "all is in flux", except when it's not.  And what about these exceptions?  I added context.  If a rock is sitting on the ground, and no force applies to it, does it disappear about 1 billion years?  Does it grow larger?  No, nothing happens.  It does not change.  It is not "in flux".  Because change requires context.


By challenging their standard, their judgment, they expose themselves, one by one.



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Because of the absence of absolutes, all theories, all godlike visions, all revealing, are flawed.

To cope, therefore, becomes a matter of finding the exceptions, the flaws, so as to discredit the entire theory.
The one who sees must humble himself, show deference to this idea that since all theories are flawed, then all are equally possible...which means none are so.
The status quo is preserved...nothing is done....zero effort.

Any resistance on the part of the one who sees, who reveals, is to be considered hubris, arrogance, an ego wanting to dominate because it feels insecure - it is compensating.
No superior/inferior hierarchy is accepted - no survival of the strongest meme, the most probable possibility.
All must humble themselves to the negative, the absence of the absolute - which is presumed but never presented.
Before the unknown Absolute - out there awaiting discovery, like a coming messiah - all perspectives must bow - as equally flawed, equally sinful, equally weak.

The one who reveals must show deference to the collective who have already settled and want things to remain as they are, only debating on the minor details of what is shared - Biblical studies.
Philosophy as a debate over who saw what, where nothing is ever considered superior and all is mere perspective.
The one who exposes must be reminded of his humanity - he must be brought down to the lowest-common-denominator so that nobody is forced to adjust; nobody shamed, nobody hurt, nobody embarrassed, nobody exposed as a liar and a hypocrite.

To cope with a threatening perspective, the eyes that see, and then transmit what is seen, must be blinded, or slandered.
By reminding all that they are only human eyes, after all, the anxiety concerning what has been revealed by the processing of the data seen, is reduced.

The seen need not be addressed, only the one who sees.

The one who sees proposes what he sees as superior to what another does.
Otherwise he would not propose it.
The one who sees cannot claim he is the only one who does, or can see.
What is seen is accessible to all...and that's why those that do not, and cannot, must reject what is seen, and they cannot, by attacking him.

What is seen is so clear, so obvious, that they must blind themselves to it, or they must destroy the source that re-minds them of what they feel, intuitively, is so.

The one who sees does not invent what is seen, because then it would be easy to deal with, but he reveals it - he uncovers it from where it has been buried and forgotten by those who do not want to see anything other than what flatters and comforts them.
The one who reveals is the "evil" one, the "ill" one, not because of his motive - which is simply to expose, to uncover - but because of how the others (re)act to what is exposed; they cannot tolerate what is being revealed, and so the one who reveals it to them must be cruel to force them to look.

The feelings produced in them are transferred to the one stimulating these sensations/feelings in them.
He is the "scapegoat" of their own existential anxieties...
Slander him, discredit him, kill him, and you escape, you find salvation.

Others idolize him, because what has been revealed, to them, has been before their eyes all along.
It's, as if, a veil has been lifted, and what seemed murky begins to take shape, to come into focus - understanding is sparked - excitement giving way to fear then, if endured and not turned away from, giving way to possibilities.


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PostSubject: Re: Forums Mon Nov 02, 2015 5:03 pm

Who's next?!!

Orbie.

Another wannabe pseudo-psychoanalyst, etc.

To Satyr, he offers his insides, I mean insights lolz:

"Oh my, is it mere 'dizzy-ness', or something more profound, like an illness unto death?
It's power rests in negation. The will to power reversed. Reduce that, to Scopenhauer's idea of the will, and you get a differing representation."

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In translation:

"I dont like Satyr's views; they are too hurtful. He is a life-denier.

He calls others nihilists, because he is a nihilist."

Gargle and apply same logic back at ya...

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PostSubject: Re: Forums Mon Nov 02, 2015 5:11 pm

Satyr wrote:
Some pot should be part of the proceedings, to mystify...some mind-altering mushrooms, to make the experience seem more profound.


In the amoral view, ambition, the lust to rule, dominate, is natural, healthy, honest,, except some of us have foregone all that to an even higher ambition. Autokrator. Self-ruling rule.

FC's awe of the US, and to confuse it as an incarnation of Rome is unrelatable.

That whole love of ghettohood freestyle, ressentimental Tarantinoism would be alien to any true I.E.
This America is simply unimpressive.

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PostSubject: Re: Forums Mon Nov 02, 2015 5:12 pm

The reason why I am more of a "Realist" than anybody here on KT is this....

I am aware and observe something called "Balance" in the universe. Sometimes change does not occur, and rocks do not magically disappear or grow, due to "entropy" or "the big crunch" or whatever other spouts of nonsense idealists want to present. While it's true that existence is constantly in motion, balance does occur within. Just as a man can stand upon earth with the power of his own two legs.

Navigation through reality is that balance. And when objects, or people, are at balance, then "no change" is said to be had. Now some here will conjecture that "there is always change, even when unseen". Again this is true, but not absolutely of course. Thus there is just as much "unchange" and there is, change.

This is something the twerps cannot understand, balance, order within the chaos, and peace within a war.


Every change requires context. And so too does this apply to humanity and their "ideals".
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PostSubject: Re: Forums Mon Nov 02, 2015 5:14 pm

Lyssa wrote:
Satyr wrote:
Some pot should be part of the proceedings, to mystify...some mind-altering mushrooms, to make the experience seem more profound.


In the amoral view, ambition, the lust to rule, dominate, is natural, healthy, honest,, except some of us have foregone all that to an even higher ambition. Autokrator. Self-ruling rule.

FC's awe of the US, and to confuse it as an incarnation of Rome is unrelatable.

That whole love of ghettohood freestyle, ressentimental Tarantinoism would be alien to any true I.E.
This America is simply unimpressive.

I have a cousin who thinks the same thing.
Byzantium and the Holy Roman Empire are not Rome.

He feels awe before power based on money - money gathered by exploiting weakness, selling self, marketing your "product" to the masses - being popular.

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PostSubject: Re: Forums Mon Nov 02, 2015 5:15 pm

Also every change requires energy. Every change has a cost, an effect, a consequence.

People cause change, out of necessity. Usually these changes are inspired by ideals, but not always. Because consciousness is the highest trait of life, and of humanity.
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PostSubject: Re: Forums Mon Nov 02, 2015 5:18 pm

Æon wrote:
Navigation through reality is that balance.  And when objects, or people, are at balance, then "no change" is said to be had.

What's wrong with you?

He's already defined flow and flux in his definitions. Read.

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PostSubject: Re: Forums Mon Nov 02, 2015 5:20 pm

Peace within a war / a balance in between the chaos..
Is that not what we explained to the idiot relating to pattern consistency, predictability, degree of activity, ordering: LIMITATION.. What an idiot.
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PostSubject: Re: Forums Mon Nov 02, 2015 5:23 pm

I am not sure if Fixed called me or Satyr a liar, doing so for the sake of "social image."

Its most likely me.

The 'liar' part is predictable, but the "social image" is a secret only he knows, because its not known to me.

Come, tell it to my face Fixed. Say everything you want to say to me.

What social image am I trying to save?

Say it!


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PostSubject: Re: Forums Mon Nov 02, 2015 5:24 pm

@Neon
You keep arbitrarily assigning me to the middle of one of your poke tantrums or alleged challenges . You turn around, close your eyes, ball up your synthetic bouque of accusations and toss it backward into the air hoping that others hope to catch it, if not tagged by it.

Besides, as such, you are at a presupposition in a world reality of participation imposed as a confrontation to your virtual reality of spectatorship. As earlier, you can judge, but not be judged.
So all argumentation with you starts up and ends up as you starting and ending it by authoritative assumption (as opposed to explanation).









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PostSubject: Re: Forums Mon Nov 02, 2015 5:33 pm

Judged based on ideals, or judged based on reality?

Like when Lyssa insinuated that my ex-girlfriend must have been ugly...as her personal excuse and justification, to think less of me.

Now, talk about hypocrisy when, which of you know the reality? As if many of these personal circumstances matter to the other topics at hand? Do they matter? Maybe they do.....but that only proves my point.

There is always a compulsion to personalize "reality". That's not a problem until people confuse reality for ideals. Now you want to bring in, satyr said this and that, this and that, fine. Those are his definitions, not mine. And his definitions don't hold authority over me, nor should they you.

Instead what I advocate is higher superiority, always 'better' definitions. And I offer them when the opportunity presents itself.


Earlier, for tuna mentioned "evolution". Evolution is this constant challenge, and raising the bar, raising the ideals of all participants. Demanding more, not only from each other, but from all existence. Revel in the deeper thirst for knowledge, intelligence, and wisdom.
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PostSubject: Re: Forums Mon Nov 02, 2015 5:37 pm

(D)Evolution relative to ideals...
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PostSubject: Re: Forums Mon Nov 02, 2015 5:46 pm

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Like when Lyssa insinuated that my ex-girlfriend must have been ugly...as her personal excuse and justification, to think less of me.

That's a shame. Even after what must be a decade of Satyr teaching you of Degreeeeeeeees,,, you still haven't learned that the opposite of saying your ex-gf. must not look like the girl's pic. you posted does not "immediately" mean she was ugly…

I'm done.

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PostSubject: Re: Forums Mon Nov 02, 2015 5:49 pm

Oh yes, your intentions are so pure and innocent.......what was I thinking?!

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PostSubject: Re: Forums Mon Nov 02, 2015 5:50 pm

Zoot Allures wrote:
Quote :
Who are you calling bitch?

I believe he was referring to aeon there, madam Lysvatsky.



A lys...p of a lyp sly...p happens; I'll pardon myself, Brianohnoawitch.

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PostSubject: Re: Forums Mon Nov 02, 2015 6:15 pm

They beg for attention, scream for it, expecting only "positive" feedback, flattery, but when it is "negative" they accuse the source of obsessing.
When they do that they share the motive, unburdening the rest upon the other as an accusation full of innuendo.
Promoting VO is now my own ambition.
I am curios to see what will come of it...and its motley crew.
After seeing Pezer and Ollie sharing their minds, I want Ziit and PDitty, and cAnus , and the bovine, why not?, to join in.
I would love to see universal morality coincide with cAnus' inter-subjectivity, all is best in Democracy, and hedonism, in the self-valuing of the "philosophy kings".

Can value, like the one ring work it's magic?

Tolkien wrote:
Three Rings for the Elven-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Dwarf-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Men doomed to die,
One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.
One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them,
One Ring to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them,
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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The reason is more banal than all of that.
When a shark has been swimming around for days, and it smells blood in the water, a squirming of a fish, spasms caused by some distress, he turns to swim its way.
With ILP being taken over by the VO cult, uniting the different variants of nihilism, the scattered herd is converging upon a watering hole.
Predators gather.

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PostSubject: Re: Forums Mon Nov 02, 2015 7:42 pm

If I am labelled negative it is by those nihilists who have inverted the positive to a negative; it is by those whom I negate, I expose, I belittle, I shame, using their own tactics against them.
I shame because I cannot slice throats, and throttle those who posture, like children, and play warrior and brag about their fights, showing how desperate they are to appear as something they are not.

If I am labelled negative it is in a world of sheltered, fake, "positivity", where all is one, valuable, good, equal, happy.
There is no greater lover of life, than I...but I refuse to ignore the pain, to accentuate the pleasures, because I want my experiences to be honest, authentic, real.

I follow nobody, because what I need is present all around me. I learn form others, I do not follow them, like a damn sheep.
Beware of those who say they have something to teach you.
Vanity, arrogance, exposes a secret weakness.
Beware of the ones who brag, and display, and prance, those the the ones with the deepest insecurities.
Beware of the ones who flatter, and comfort, giving you lies instead of hard truths, those are the ones who are manipulating you.

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PostSubject: Re: Forums Mon Nov 02, 2015 7:47 pm

phoneutria wrote:
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There must be some reason why he writes more posts about VO than I do.

Jakob wrote:
Lyssa.

You think so??

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Hey, I thought it was Mo's task to analyze Satyr…
looks like pony's spider fingers are back and how they quicken..

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PostSubject: Re: Forums Mon Nov 02, 2015 7:52 pm

What Fixed is doing to poor Pezer is cruel.

Everyone knows he is saying shite all, but sheltering him and keeping pezer like some tame pet, calling his unfinished sentences pretending to be deep and thinking, as "honest" - "suspension of judgement" as it were, will leave Pezer with a heavy price to pay later on.

Fooling around with phil. and tinkering - great, but fooling someone that way,,, aish...

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PostSubject: Re: Forums Mon Nov 02, 2015 7:57 pm

Like telling a retard who came in last in the special Olympics that he is also a winner.
The "teacher" puts his own ego above the student's...he wants them to remain dependent, weak, stupid, feeding them false hope, fake respect, pretend agape.
Toughest thing about being a parent is telling your child the hard truth, when you nkow it will hurt him/her.
This douche-bag is a narcissist.
The scene of him practising his "partial arts" and this fuck is in his thirties, told me more than all the crap about VO that come's out of his mouth...then the tales of him beating up adversaries.
He's a common man-child, with a slightly above average mind.
Unfortunately there are more average and below average minds to make this moron feel smart.

Hey...remember shit-Stain?
Yeeeeah, I guess Arbiter, Lyssa and Magnus really tore him up.
Remember how he bragged and used those infantile methods to impress?
Too bad, for him, that it wasn't as effective on-line as it was trying to impress his moronic junky american "awesome" buddies, and the whores he has to bribe with drugs to bed.
We needed more vague references and insinuations to admire his 160 I.Q.

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PostSubject: Re: Forums Mon Nov 02, 2015 8:04 pm

Good news: Fixed genuinely cares for certain kinds of relationships and wants to.

Bad news: He doesn't know the first thing about it.

Flattery and patting someone on is not going to work all the time and on all people and as an incorporatable experience, from which they can draw from their real inner fountains.

Diplomacy, trying not to hurt anyone and still getting the job done makes it a performance, not a relation.

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PostSubject: Re: Forums Mon Nov 02, 2015 8:07 pm

Anthony Hopkins would have nothing further to do with the Hannibal character once the franchise was over. A good actor who values his craft also cultivates himself to the right degree of detachment.

Character and Personality.

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PostSubject: Re: Forums Mon Nov 02, 2015 8:08 pm

Parasitical relationships are one-sided.
Usually there is a stronger allowing a weaker to feed, because it offers some small service.

Logic is re-cohering what has been "de-cohered"?
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Then he states, in case you did not notice..."I think I am striking on something very profound here"

What a pompous ass.

Obsessed?...shit this fuck is my new project, now that I've lost shit-Stain.

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PostSubject: Re: Forums Mon Nov 02, 2015 8:16 pm

A pointless joke is an oxymoron.

Every humour betrays intentions and impulses.


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PostSubject: Re: Forums Mon Nov 02, 2015 8:33 pm

Lyssa wrote:
Anthony Hopkins would have nothing further to do with the Hannibal character once the franchise was over. A good actor who values his craft also cultivates himself to the right degree of detachment.

Character and Personality.
Knowing when you've drained the source is wisdom.
It's hard to abandon a water source you've enjoyed drinking from to trek into the desert looking for a new one.

Every step will make you turn back, remembering the thing you left behind, and how much more you could have done with it, how much more pleasure you could have derived from it.
To let go, is harder than to grasp and hold.

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PostSubject: Re: Forums Mon Nov 02, 2015 8:46 pm

If you want kind lies, go to a priest.
If you want cruel honesty, go to your father.
If you want it delivered with a soft touch, approaching a lie, go to a friend.

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PostSubject: Re: Forums Tue Nov 03, 2015 11:21 am

"How can a person "Describe the world as it is" meanwhile everything is changing and "in flux" as satyr admits? Contradiction."

I see no contradiction.

I exist, finite. My access to the world, my means of apprehending it, is finite. I live in the 'here' and the 'now'. I can never apprehend, or describe, the world as a whole, only the portion, the segment, the level, I'm in.

And, course the world is dynamic, but the pace which I move through the world is such I can, with a measure of accuracy, describe what is 'here', what is 'now' (we live in the midst of, are part of, a vast, constantly advancing, consistently paced, explosion...from my mayfly perspective, the world - if not static - certainly moves slowly, almost glacially).

And, even though I can't take in the whole of everything, there is a consistency to the world's workings allowing me to believe that, for example, if fire burns 'here', then fire burns 'there', a billion light years away, in the same way.

So: it really isn't a contradiction to say one should or can see the (changing) world 'as is'. The change is slow and consistent....the world is apprehendable, describable to any one with a mind to.
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PostSubject: Re: Forums Tue Nov 03, 2015 11:32 am

Satyr wrote:
If you want cruel honesty, go to your father.
That is very true, nobody speaks his perception of me as honestly as my dad.
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PostSubject: Re: Forums Tue Nov 03, 2015 1:05 pm

Fixed wants Satyr to learn from him.

lol!


Yes, maybe Satyr should have attended some greek school to learn to call Aeschylus for the justification of f----ing some man's dignity just to feel the vigour of an erection… and then speak about Value of Valuing and the power of man and Human-archy….

No, that's not hypocritical at all.

Igor is bad and mama protects him?

WHERE DO YOU GET THE FACE TO SAY THAT, HYPOCRITE!!!


Lets continue to pat poor pezer making commodity whores of humans in the name of "direct democracy", saying, "we need to give people what they like - food, water", lol

Excellent.

People also like sex. Sexocracy will be the next video, no doubt.

Satyr needs to learn from you how to "predict trends" like that about human nature…

Or maybe you need to learn some simple things from Satyr.

Like being a man, no?
Like being able to with-stand harsh environments and not stooping to calling someone a religious-hater because they question motives and mindsets…

But no. Teach poor pezer how to do philosophy.

Be the superb role-model and teach him, when someone debates you, you put music videos to shame and silence them. As if those were things you could not have easily said to my face or his…


But who knows. Maybe Satyr needs to learn all that from you,

so savvy, the spectacular FC.

Who grows on people.

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PostSubject: Re: Forums Tue Nov 03, 2015 1:12 pm

Arc, the quintessential darkness in which cockroaches thrive, wants to put conditions on my having my own brain…

umm, she is the one who is brain-f---ed with Xt. morals and giving knee-jerk reactions at the ever so slight mention of certain ta boos?!

But whatever.

Philosophy is not scientific enquiry, pattern valuations, categorizations, deducing laws, behaviours… no, not at all.
I mean, we can speak of black mind-sets, red-neck nazis, white whiggers, asians, but noooooooooooo, we can't ever say anything about the ssssshhh-mindset…

if anything, mum's the word for her.

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PostSubject: Re: Forums Tue Nov 03, 2015 2:07 pm

Crossing the sexual lines, and playing both sides, can only mean that in whatever meeting that will take place, more than mind-fucking young men is on the agenda.

The powerless, are addicted to the power, dominating weakness offers.
Thy have none in themselves. they need to get it elsewhere.

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PostSubject: Re: Forums Tue Nov 03, 2015 2:29 pm

I can't begin to speculate which other natural born follower, submissive "man" this guru has convinced to accept his "love", through the "rectum", telling him this is the only way to experience what it means to be Greek.
Gives mind-fucking an added dimension.

Tender words, fake appreciation "You are valuable. Let nobody tell you otherwise, sweetheart.", attentiveness, his physical exhibitions, displaying himself to the intended audience, a fashion sense, an artistic flair...'Look at me thrust my fists in the air; watch my hips"....claims of bravado, sexual prowess that has "beaten other up", and can defeat MMA fighters, wanting to be the pitcher and not the catcher....
I smell a closet Tinkerbell, ringing her wrists...calling the boys to him/her for supper.  

Disinterest in females, pretending he is above eroticism and is only dealing with reason, and focusing on young men, is one sign.

When a "man" has maintained a good enough erection to penetrate another male's anus, he cannot pretend he's not a fag anymore.

Igor instigates, and waits.
He gathers and hides in the corners to watch.
He prefers to be underestimated, because the other reveals more readily when he feel comfortable, superior.
I wonder if the JofA realizes how many posts he's directed towards KT.
The thread titles he posts in should offer her a hint.
Even if they were not intended for me, those who are here, came here because of me, and they stayed.

If I was a brute, how long would they have stayed?

The closet homo thinks he invented something new, and has magical powers, because he can exploit dumb fucks, and effete, weak spirits with praise, and kindness, and promises of power...as he feeds his own insatiable need for it.
Weak in his core, to his core, he goes to Greece to feel power, and returns a homo.

So desperate that he samples the Golden Age when decadence begins, and from the upper classes where debauchery and hedonism had began to set in, as they have in his "America as Rome" Judaism.
He is the child of excess, and thinks all existence is the same.
He's never really suffered.

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