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PostSubject: Communism/Marxism Communism/Marxism EmptyMon Feb 01, 2016 7:39 pm

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This post by OhFortunae got me thinking:

Although communists, along with others on the far left, are infamous for their overusage of the words ending with -ist, -phobe, and accusing others of discrimination, intolerance, inhumanity, etc. I have never heard them calling anybody 'classist' in a derogatory manner.

To discriminate based on class doesn't even count as discrimination to them, and it is not only justified, but the moral imperative of a proper Marxist revolutionist.
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Which translates to - doesn't matter your religion, nationality, sex, race, as long as you are one of the oppressed working class, you are one of us - shared victimhood status transcending every other identification.

It is therefore plainly visible that Marxism seeks to undermine all other categories except class.
But is it the end or the means?
1) Did Marxists seek to undermine sex/religion/nationality/race etc. out of a genuine, if naive, desire to create an earthly paradise (utopia), and removing sex/religion/nationality/race was just necessary to enforce their particular economic system which determines material contribution to be one's primary means of identification?
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2) Did they merely use the promises of utopia and social and economic equality to undermine the foundations for identity (sex/religion/race/nationality) of the masses in powerful countries to weaken them, effectively 'cleaning their slate of the past/nature' and making them prone to whatever memetic brainwashing the elites can imagine, paving the way for globalism/humanism?

I think the reason that sex/religion/nationality/race had to be undermined with 'critical' theory, or sometimes even denied existence, is that people would probably identify with all of those things before class, making Marxism/Communism ineffective.

I also wonder what would be the communist response to this. I may try posting it on a communist forum.
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Yockey wrote:
"The gradual transition of the Spirit of the 18th century into that of the 19th century was manifested by the increasingly radical nature of the conflict between Tradition and democracy. Rationalism became more extreme with each decade. Its most intransigent product is Communism.
In the century 1750-1850, democracy had undermined the State and opened the way for the Economic Age. But the financier and the industrial baron replaced the absolute monarch. Communism is the symbol of the transference of the democratic struggle to the sphere of economics.
Communism fitted itself out with a Rationalistic philosophy: a materialistic metaphysic, an atomistic logic, a social ethic, an economic politics. It even offered a philosophy of history which said that human history was the history of economic development and struggles! And these people ridiculed the Scholastic philosophers for the nature of the problems they set themselves! Religion— that was economic, politics, of course, also. Technics and art were clearly economic. This theory was actually the crowning intellectual stupidity of the Age of Economics. The Age asserted thus its omnipotence and universality. “Everything within economics, nothing outside economics, nothing against economics” might well have been the slogan.
Just as the political aspect of Democracy had been directed against quality and tradition, so the economic aspect was directed against even such quality and superiority as was engendered by economic differences. Political class war became economic class war. Just as the appeal in the first stage had been made to anyone not belonging to the two Estates, so later the appeal was directed to the non-possessors. Not all non-possessors, but only those in the great cities, and within this group, only the manual workers, for only these were physically concentrated so that they could be brought on to the streets for class war." [Imperium]

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It's amazing how accurate this analogy is.

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PostSubject: Re: Communism/Marxism Communism/Marxism EmptyTue Apr 12, 2016 8:30 am

The last vid is brilliant.
"Pussy to the people".

Partially collectivized during the sixties, the "decade of love".
But not totally.
Confusion followed and we are presently living in the dazed and confused remnants of that age of "enlightenment".

Like Communism, collectivizing resources was practised as the privilege of those who were party leaders.
Nihilism must ALWAYS, contradict itself to remain viable, and alive.
Detachment form reality has to lie, otherwise it dies.

Sexually the lie that "all deserve" love, is practised with more severe discrimination.
Those controlling love/lust dictate how access to resources is attained.

In this case the resource is vagina and the womb.
The state enforces strict regulations, and punishes masculine traits that overcome this female natural power, forcing males in the role of worker.

With no access to the resource he must enslave himself to pussy, and to those who actually control pussy, by controlling the mind pussy is attached to.
This is feminization of mankind, using the agency of woman to exploit and manipulate men.


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Ordinary Marxism sought to replace the male sexual role of protector/provider by taking the control of  protection/provision away from the man and distributing it to those in need (mostly women). This reduces the sexual power of men drastically and mostly benefits women at the expense of men.

The one proposed in the Collectivize Sex video reverses this. It replaces the female sexual role of providing sexual services to the male (though it doesn't replace the child birthing part) by taking the control of vagina away from the female and distributing it to those in need (mostly men). This reduces the sexual power of females drastically and mostly benefits men at the expense of women.

Interesting how it can be turned around. I think the only argument the feminist Marxists would have is that vagina is part of the body and one's own body is their own choice, but then the men could say that the same thing applies to protection/provision being taken away from them, as it forces their body to act and respond in a certain manner to restrictions placed upon them.

I think for the more rational females it would succeed to truly expose the retarded reasoning behind Marxism.
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With everything having become a 'knowledge economy', Negri wrote abt. Marxism morphing into an immaterial civil war against 'cognitive capitalism' , the proletariat into the "cognitariat"…

The 'knowledge class', the 'value producers', the 'creative class'… all Deleuzean rhizomatic solutions heavily relying on creativity as the solution - the fury of creativity that capitalism cannot keep pace with to exploit…

But not only has capitalism kept pace, but even exposed Natural hierarchies Automatically forming within all "creative commons" such as Wikicommons, etc.
Even amongst the utopia of 'free creative brotherhood', gaps inevitably widen, further and further differentiating, fragmenting into diff. class of labourers.

This need to out-capitalize capitalism by speeding up the pace of creativity or 'creative excess', only morphed into a capitalism in itself - speed even more dictating the Fact-ory (of) workers…, which goes to show the futility of eradicating inequality or erasing class distinctions through marxism/communism, which, as we all know, has only had the disastrous effect of

1. Pathological simulation in the name of creativite resistance

2. A plethora of classes, over-fragmentations - Satyr's "Idiot Savants", over-specializations like cells in a honey-comb, artificial laws, rights, complications veering towards chaos.

3. Increased disconnect from increased specialization calling for more and more socialization, participation, the artificial intimacy of secular humanism, "intimate" universes, and feelgood religions, and,

4. Paranoid neuroticism of seeing oppressors and oppression everywhere, culminating in the victim industry...


(Author is a Marxist.)

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"We are implicit, here, all of us, in a vast physical construct of artificially linked nervous systems. Invisible. We cannot touch it." [William Gibson, In the visegrips of Dr. Satan]


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Cognitive Capitalism

"Around 2006, the term Creative Industries (CI) started to surface in the mailboxes and mailing lists of many cultural workers, artists, activists and researchers across Europe, as well as in the calls for seminars and events. One of the points of condensation of this trend was the conference ‘My Creativity’ held in Amsterdam by the Institute of Network Cultures. An old question spins back: curiously, for the first time, a term is picked up from institutional jargon and brought unchanged into alt culture, a debate used to other keywords and post-structures (that may deserve an acronym as well) such as network culture (NC), knowledge economy (KE), immaterial labour (IL), general intellect (GI), and of course largely dominated by the two hegemonic models of Free Software (FLOSS) and Creative Commons (the famous CC). This interest in the topic of Creative Industries was more a reaction to the hype of Richard Florida’s ‘creative economy’ storming European institutions and local city councils. Indeed, the notion of Creative Industries was far more pragmatic and understated than Florida’s ‘flight of the creative class’. Originally, the precise 1998 definition adopted by the Creative Industries Task Force set up by Tony Blair stated:

‘Those industries that have their origin in individual creativity, skill and talent and which have a potential for wealth and job creation through the generation and exploitation of intellectual property.’

The celebrated notion of ‘social creativity’ was largely left out of that definition, even if today the two terms Creative Industries and Creative Economy increasingly overlap. After so many years, Tony Blair is still suspected of stealing your ideas.

Cognitive workers are networkers, precarious workers are networked, the former are brainworkers, the latter chainworkers: the former first seduced and then abandoned by companies and financial markets, the latter dragged into and made flexible by the fluxes of global capital.

It was clear from the beginning that this cohabitation was problematic for the standard pauperism of the radical left. In the late 2000s, all these theoretical efforts condensed in general around the notion of cognitive capitalism, advanced specifically by the Paris-based magazine Multitudes and the Italian magazine Posse.

During the golden age of net culture, the debate around ICT and the new economy was often linked to concept of ‘knowledge economy’. The Austrian-born American economist Peter Drucker introduced the terms ‘knowledge workers’ and ‘knowledge economy’ during the 1960s in his books The Effective Executive and The Age of Discontinuity. Fritz Machlup had, in fact, already described the ‘knowledge industry’ in 1962.

It is no mystery that the Anglo-American context has nothing of the productivist and workerist approach of continental Marxism. Here, the motto ‘information wants to be free’ could be cited as the perfect incarnation of this tradition, being focussed more on the issues of freedom, rights and property rather than production of knowledge. Finally, in 2001 the debate around copyleft escaped the boundaries of Free Software and established the widely cel- ebrated paradigm of Creative Commons licences.

In 2002, the bestseller The Rise of the Creative Class by Richard Florida (itself based on controversial statistical evidence) appeared right in the middle of the Anglo-American debate but strangely absorbed many continental traits and concerns. His model at first seems inspired by the notion of cultural capital introduced by the French sociologist Pierre Bourdieu in the 1970s and ’80s. In this sense, Florida breaks with the Anglo-American tradition, since his model is no longer exclusively based on intellectual property but on the exploitation of cultural capital. Indeed, this agenda is more appreciated in Europe by the Nordic social democracies for their cultural policies, rather than the neoliberal tendency of the UK, for instance. So far the debate is dominated by two models: the institutional notion of Creative Industries based on the exploitation of Intellectual Property (typically British) and the new entrepreneurial model of Creative Economy based on the tactical and dynamic exploitation of the cultural capital of a given city (extensively adopted world-wide but especially in Northern Europe). These are the main coordinates (aside from the one-dimensional models of Creative Commons and ‘peer production’) through which a critical understanding of culture industry and a new politics of cognitive labour have to find their own path.

At stake is the political re-engagement of a generation of creative workers (before getting mixed up with chain workers) and, at the same time, the ‘economic’ engagement of a generation of activists (as the Seattle movement was more concerned with global issues than their own income). My creativity = my value = my conflict.

The massification of the ‘creative’ attitude: ‘Everyone is a creative’ is a widespread slogan today. Many years after Benjamin’s artwork, the mass artist enters the age of social reproducibility where ‘creativity’ is sold as a status symbol.
The social base of cultural industry is getting larger (at least in the Western world) and unveils new scenarios. In the first period, cultural industries become hegemonic (as a fact and as a concept). In the second period, they face an entropy of meaning and producers. Collective intelligence also has its own entropy." [Matteo Pasquinelli, Animal Spirits: A Beastiary of the Commons]



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Rent is the new Profit,

"Vercellone, accordingly, provides an apt slogan for the nature of cognitive capitalism: ‘Rent is the new profit’. Rent is parasitic because it is orthogonal to the line of classic profit. Parasite etymologically means ‘eating at another’s table,’ sucking surplus in a furtive manner, rather than directly. Whenever we produce freely in front of our computers, somebody has their hands in our wallet.

Post-Operaismo has developed the theory of rent by upgrading Marx’s notion of the general intellect. If in Marx the general intellect was embodied in the fixed capital of machinery, today knowledge pro- ducing value is rooted in the distributed cooperation of brains that exceeds the boundaries of the factory. Profit is to the Fordist factory as rent is to the diffuse ‘social factory’. Contrary to the theory of information revolution and network society, Vercellone claims that the mutation of labour cannot be explained by the technological determinism of ICT. The power of ICT does not originate from the vitalistic force of capitalism, but from the social networks of knowledge that are prior to any technology. Cognitive capitalism emerges later in the form of a parasite: it subjects social knowledge and inhibits its emancipatory potential. Rent is the other side of the commons – it was once cast over the common land, today over the network commons.

The becoming rent of profit means a transformation of management structures and the cognitive workforce. Not surprisingly, the autonomization of capital has grown in parallel with the autonomization of cooperation. Managers now deal increasingly with financial and speculative tasks, while workers are in charge of distributed management. In this evolution, the ‘cognitariat’ is split into two tendencies. On one side, high-skilled cognitive workers become ‘functionaries of the capital rent’ and are co-opted within this system through stock options (a parasitic type of wage that partially absorbs the worker into proprietary capital itself).

On the other side, the majority of workers face a declassing (déclassement) of life conditions despite their skills being increasingly knowledge rich. It is no mystery that the New Economy has generated more McJobs: temp-workers are proliferating coincidently with the rise of the ‘wealth of networks’. Production went social, but wages are still trapped within the cage of labour as the only access to income. The effect is a stagnation of income and the precarization of labour, while rent accumulates energy on a parallel level. This model can be easily applied to the Internet economy and its workforce, where users are placed in charge of content production and web management, but do not share any profit. Major corporations like Google, for instance, make money over the attention economy of user-generated content with its services Adsense and Adwords. Google provides a light infrastructure for advertising that infiltrates websites as a subtle and mono-dimensional parasite, extracting profit without producing any content. Of course, a small part of the value is shared with users, and Google programmers are paid in stock options to develop more sophisticated algorithms, so we are placed in the belly of a benevolent parasite; to a certain degree, it is still comforting and paternalistic.

In this interweaving scenario, Negri and Vercellone advocate the final collapse of Marx’s trinitarian formula of profit, rent and wages. For them, rent is the new antagonism between capital and labour in the age of the general intellect. The theory of rent, therefore, at last opens to the actual multiplicity of late capitalism and its molecular strategies of valorization, since there are heterogeneous kinds of rent at work concerning finance, real estate, knowledge, wages, and so forth. Moreover, according to the ‘emergence of immaterial labour’ outlined by Negri and Hardt in Empire, cognitive labour lies at the centre of the valorization process and, consequently, can break the mechanisms of capitalist production more easily. Along this conceptual line, however, the notion of multitude has been kept rooted by its own production force, but with few strategies of self-defence. The theory of rent finally illuminates the new fields of conflict and sabotage in terms of value accumulation, which become crucial for producing and defending the new commons." [Matteo Pasquinelli, Animal Spirits: A Beastiary of the Commons]



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The Hacker Class

"A Hacker Manifesto by McKenzie Wark is a remarkable attempt to develop a Marxist critique of the information society and the digital economy. Wark, nevertheless, still remains trapped in a form of digitalism. Here, the term hacker class is introduced as an attempt to synthesize Marxist thought and the new autonomous movements of Internet-based workers and activists, traditionally allergic to any kind of Marxism especially in the Anglo-American context. ‘Hacker class’ is the Californian translation of all those continental terms, like immaterial workers, cognitariat, multitude and so on, that have descended from the older Marxist concept of the general intellect. Wark’s hacker class is, therefore, specifically defined by the power of abstraction (the ability to shape new ideas, or the creative act):

Wark wrote:
"All classes fear this relentless abstraction of the world, on which their fortunes yet depend. All classes but one: the hacker class. We are the hackers of abstraction. We produce new concepts, new perceptions, new sensations, hacked out of raw data. Whatever code we hack, be it programming language, poetic language, math or music, curves or colorings, we are the abstracters of new worlds."

Wark believes that the hacker class can reopen the question of property more effectively than any previous social struggle. Surprisingly, he does not make any distinction between material and immaterial property: property on signs and ideas, as opposed to property on material goods or biochemical energy. Wark believes implicitly that the free reproducibility of digital data will eventually undermine material property itself. A soft Marxism defines the hacker class: where Marx proposes the abolition of private property and the re-appropriation of the means of production as a revolutionary solution, here, there is only the gesture of the gift as a silent rebellion. The gift economy is advanced as the real threat to the property system and to the power of the ‘vectorial class’ (the class owning the media infrastructure), precisely as P2P networks are undermining the music and movie industries. Yet this form of sabotage remains predominantly digital.

The declarative style of the book is principally locked in a binary scheme. Wark does not recognize that capitalism has already found a third way and many business models are already based on the ‘gift economy’ (IBM parasiting Free Software, Google providing free services, etcetera). On the contrary, Wark believes that the ‘vectorial’ class is still committed to a reactive concept of scarcity and has not repositioned itself into a more competitive scenario, where the notion of property itself has become more dynamic and negotiated. In other words, the endless reproduction of desire (Deleuze and Guattari stretched out again!) triggered by digital media cannot be fatally stopped.

Wark wrote:
"But short of seizing hold of a monopoly on all vectors for producing and distributing information, the vectorialist class cannot entirely limit the free productivity of the hacker class, which continues to produce yet more fuel for the free productivity of desire."

What the farming, working and hacking classes have in common is an interest in abstracting production from its subordination to rulin classes who turn production into the production of new necessities, who wrest slavery from surplus. What the farming and working class lack in a direct knowledge of free production the hacking class has from direct experience. What the hacking class lacks is the depths of an historic class memory of revolt against alienated production. This is what the farming and working classes have in spades." [Matteo Pasquinelli, Animal Spirits: A Beastiary of the Commons]



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The Hydra of Language

"When instinctual drives contaminate collective language and culture, they appear as a conflictive hydra, whose heads scream and devour each other in a material and immaterial ‘civil’ conflict that erupts from the multitude. Today’s ‘Free Culture’ movement (from Free Software to Creative Commons to any artistic use of such metaphors) can be taken as an example of the belief in the ‘natural goodness’ of human beings and networks. ‘Information is non-rival’ is a popular saying among supporters of the Free Culture movement, from which the contours of a utopian non-competitive society are deduced and explained. On the contrary, examining the labour conditions of temporary workers, free-lancers and activists demonstrates how competition and social distress are amplified through informational production.

The hydra of the immaterial civil war emerges when the economy of ideas is extended across the whole of society; it is linked to the phenomenon of ‘artists in the age of their social reproduction’ and the entropic decay of collective intelligence. Immaterial conflict is the norm between intellectual workers, despite all the rhetoric of knowledge sharing and digital commons. It is manifested in the well-known rivalry within academia and the art world, to the economy of references, the race of deadlines, the competition for festival selection and between festivals themselves, the envious and suspicious attitudes among activists. Immaterial civil war is the constant struggle on the stage of the society of the spectacle: a cruel Ballardian jungle of brands, pop stars, gadgets, devices, but also formats and protocols. Immaterial exploitation is the everyday life of precarious workers, particularly of the younger generations, completely aware of the symbolic capital produced by their lives put to work. The notion of immaterial civil war describes the explosion of social relations enclosed in the modern commodity. As Italian economist Rullani points out, there is even more competition in the realm of the knowledge economy when reproducibility is free and speed becomes a crucial mark of difference. How can the constitution of the common be reconsidered in the context of a cognitive civil conflict? The ‘composition’ of immaterial civil conflict as a material class conflict in the form of the exploitation of cognitive capitalism is the political question at stake. Immaterial civil war challenges the composition of new social subjects, from the cognitariat to the ‘creative class’. Only a productive definition of the common can decipher the profile of the new subjectivities. In the mirror of immaterial civil war, there comes the production of the common." [Matteo Pasquinelli, Animal Spirits: A Beastiary of the Commons]

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Pg. 4 and 5 on Marx/Engels' double-stds.

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"Europeanization was seen as necessary for the development of both Asians and American slaves." Avineri's assessment is worth quoting at length:

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"Since Oriental society does not develop internally, it cannot evolve toward capitalism through the dialectics of internal change; and since Marx postulates the ultimate victory of socialism on the prior universalization of capitalism, he necessarily arrives at the position of having to endorse European colonial expansion as a brutal but necessary step toward the victory of socialism....[T]he horrors of colonialism are dialectically necessary for the world revolution of the proletariat since without them the countries of Asia (and presumably also Africa) will not be able to emancipate themselves from their stagnant backwardness.

Marx's view of European-and particularly British-colonial expansion is determined by these dialectical considerations consequently, Marx's views on imperialism can be painfully embarrasslng to the orthodox communist; there certainly is a deep irony in the fact that while Marx's writings on European industrialization are always the first to be used and quoted by non-European Marxists, his writings on India and China are hardly known or even mentioned by them. The Maoists in particular seem to be totally unaware of them..."

The Hegelian and Eurocentric orientation of Marx and Engels is particularly evident in their writings on the Arab world. In 1848, a year of revolution in Europe, Engels wrote:

Engels wrote:
"Upon the whole it is, in our opinion, very fortunate that the Arabian chief has been taken. The struggle of the Bedouins was a hopeless one, and though the manner in which brutal soldiers, like Bugeaud, have carried on the war is highly blameable, the conquest of Algeria is an important and fortunate fact for the progress of civilisation.. . .

And the conquest of Algeria has already forced the Beys of Tunis and Tripoli, and even the Emperor of Morocco, to enter upon the road of civilisation. They were obliged to find other employment for their people than piracy. . . . And if we may regret that the liberty of the Bedouins of the desert has been destroyed, we must not forget that these same Bedouins were a nation of robbers,-whose principal means of living consisted of making excursions either upon each other, or upon the settled villagers, taking what they found, slaughtering all those who resisted, and selling the remaining prisoners as slaves. All these nations of free barbarians look very proud, noble and glorious at a distance, but only come near them and you will find that they, as well as the more civilised nations, are ruled by the lust of gain, and only employ ruder and more cruel means. And after all, the modern bourgeois, with civil- isation, industry, order, and at least relative enlightenment following him, is preferable to the feudal lord or to the marauding robber, with the barbarian state of society to which they helong."

In any case, by 1848 the founders of Marxism were already engaged in a significant controversy with Michael Bakunin, a previous associate from the revolutionary Hegelian circles. Bakunin published an essay entitled Appeal to the Slavs where he called for social revolution, the destruction of empires, and national self-determi- nation.

Engels wrote an answer arguing that justice and independence were "moralistic categories" which prove nothing. Referring to the U.S. war against Mexico, Engels wrote:

Engels wrote:
"And will Bakunin reproach the American people for waging a war which to be sure deals a severe blow to his theories based on "Justice" and "Humanity," but which none the less was waged solely in the interests of civilization? Or is it perhaps a misfortune that the splendid land of California has been wrested from the lazy Mexicans who did not know what to do with it?. . .Because of this the "independence" of a few Spanish Californians and Texans may suffer, occasionally "Justice" and other moralistic principles may he injured, hut what do they count compared to such world historic events?"

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The right to local self-determination was denied on grounds of the 'larger pic.'

At bottom, even they Had to realize the stupidity and the consequences of 'right to self-determination' of 'savages'; better the colonial rule and 'Europeanization' of the world, than that.

In this, we see the continuation of the convenient self-chosenness at work…

'Better us, than them'.

Liberalism is an ill-logic of the original J.-Xt. schizophrenia and world-inversion.

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The arrogance of the educated white European is that they believe that they have provided sufficient answers to problems from the Enlightenment, to existential questions, to justify them not being asked any more. They demonstrate this through the subjugation of and unconcern for the obliteration of the people who have enough connection to their heritage to find salience in answers to them. All of European history and thought post-Enlightenment to current year postmodernism will be dashed away under a heel of the long march of Communism.

This is a result of Semitic influence, which the phoney genocide of which made the West reject anything inching too close to an ancient Pagan perspective in Europe, especially in popular culture.
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Peterson can see the connection of Marxism with post-modernism, but he cannot see the connection between Marxism and Judaeo-Christianity...the totalitarian universe of a collective sinfulness, denial of human nature, denial of nature altogether, the idea that all is conscious, one, which is another way of describing the State as  well as the abrahamic God.
He can trace nihilism up until it reaches the Bible.....and the Old and New testament, refusing to see how Abrahamism stripped of its religious attire and anthropomorphism and became abstract ideologies and secular humanism.

He cannot see the common thread.....language and how across all forms of Nihilism, religious and secular, the words are the beginning, and the end.
Semiotics is Nihilism.
It is superstition and anti-nature, anti-science....
The bible states it clearly...first came the word....
Word/symbol is first....TopYou begin with the abstraction and then you name it.....as if it were real, existing outside your head, real....when all it is is an idea(l) with a name.  

Communism failed because they could not accept how naive they were and still are....when they thought there was no human nature and that identity is a social construct.
They tried to escape their error by repeating it, accusing others of their past failure.

Nihilism is a self-referencing, solipsistic, self-protective dis-ease.
You cannot heal or awaken a nihilist....he's brain dead....a Zombie.
For him a world without his delusions is not worth living in, or unbearable - it's a matter of survival, not integrity....and they place survival above all else.
You cannot reason with them have a rational discussion, reach a consensus because he does not live in reality....he refuses to.....he feels he would die if he dared, or at least face himself as he is, and not as he idealizes himself being.

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It will be a 'heroic' death.
Poor soldier lost without his phalanx.
Left his city state behind so that he can take part in the fantasy imaginations of modern feminised males living the big cosmopolitan dream of being a cog in a machine and rewarded with purchased make believe compliance from the others.

"Well well well, if not everybody can individually partake in your collectivism, if somebody is excluded then it's not a big enough collectivism for this individualist...."

Collectivism? No, think bigger, think collectivism of one whole, let's call it freely freedom-fry-free individualism.

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Peterson is a joke, really. Safe, easy targets. Nothing challenging, nothing dangerous. We're individualists guys, we don't see groups, we don't generalize. The democrats are the real racists with their racial and social collectivism. The Nazis were Left wing, because they were also collectivist.
The only genuine "right wing" is this incredibly autistic, individualist anarcho-capitalism based around free markets and a minimal or absent state.
Groups are collectivist - any kind of groups. (Presumably the human body is also collectivist and hence left-wing because it is a collective of cells/organs)
The state is totalitarian and violates the non-aggression principle.

They've imbibed marxist premises, the polemical ones that accuse them of doing or being certain things, and then this whole contrivance is their way of trying to deny those accusations.
So, not racist = meritocratic, sees only individuals, doesn't generalize; doesn't see patterns emerge in large populations, cannot see (or admit) genetic predispositions to certain behaviour/psychologies/intelligence.
Not totalitarian = muh freedoms, anarchy, minimal or no state, non-aggression principle; can't organize effective resistance against other groups that form large co-operative unities, cannot legislate to suppress disruptive or subversive activity.
They would actually constitute a resistance to cultural marxism if they attempted to redeem the "racism" meme. They could actually be an effective political force if they utilized the power of the state, as their so-called enemies do. Instead they perpetuate the memes that their enemy uses to suppress them.

Again, conservatism, in all it's manifestations is the ideology of the loser. They exist to manage dissent which emerges from marxist subversion, put up ineffective token resistance and fail.
There is nothing left to conserve in this society. The demolition has been total.

Peterson makes a lot of money selling this joke though. A lot of people like this token, dead-end resistance. They seem to enjoy posing at doing something without actually doing anything. Like a form of venting, catharsis.

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I became aware of his attitude when he posted his biblical series, presenting Christianity, Abrahamism, as the west's identifying spiritual dogma.
Let's love our diversity. Let's not deny it.

Individualism is a way of dividing and conquering.
A bunch of non-collective individuals are easily dealt with, compared to a collective of like-minded individuals, or a group sharing an identifier.

He does not go to the roots of the dis-ease. If he did he would be gone....real fast.
As long as we keep it on a superficial level and stop with the Frankfurt School we're okay.

He wants to return to Christian mythology, to quiet the masses.
A personal relationship with the absolute idea(l).

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If you countenance race, you cannot be a complete self-knowing individual without also being conscious of what taxonomical groups you belong to. To be a wise or "complete" individual means knowing what limits you have as an individual belonging to a race. I will not outrun a lanky African nor an Asian out-brawn a European in fisticuffs.
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Even the "radical" Anarcho-Capitalist/Libertarians/Neo-Cons who accept race realism and believe that their ideals should be limited to whites, fail to understand the effect that these ideals have had on whites historically produced the very feminization which led to the Overton window's leftward shift. As Eulogy previously mentioned, Nihilistic Conservatism is a "sustainable decadence", which doesn't take responsibility for the effect its ideals have on its populace and takes the remnants of Pagan strength as a given as if there wasn't a certain attitude attached with it.

Peterson's hero goes out and "slays the dragon", but he doesn't see his totalitarian god as a dragon as well that needs to be overcome in order to allow males to grow out of adolescence.

He doesn't understand that for every hero that slays the dragon, there is another male that doesn't get to slay a dragon, a cost, and that these males multiply and ultimately make dragon slaying irrelevant anyways.

This is why rapists and murderers are a necessary evil that should be dealt with personally and not communally, because they help keep strong men a necessity and be appreciated, instead of the given and hated police force we have today.
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Fraser, Andrew wrote:
According to Arnold Toynbee, it is “neither poverty nor humble birth” which is the “true hallmark of the proletarian.” Rather, the proletarian is someone with “a consciousness—and the resentment which this consciousness inspires—of being disinherited from his ancestral place in Society and being unwanted in a community which is his rightful home; and this subjective proletarianism is not incompatible with the possession of material assets.”

Fraser, Andrew wrote:
In the materialist universe of secular humanism, the theology of money mediates the dialectical relationship between communism and capitalism. In the older, bourgeois stage of capitalist development, when the gold standard reigned supreme, money became the God of commodities. We live in the era of fiat currency. Now that money can be created out of thin air, anyone with a gold card credit rating can enjoy the WASP lifestyle. But an authentic ethnoreligious community remains one of those things that money can’t buy. In its place, the neo-communist regime provides the invisible race with a simulacrum of spiritual plenitude in the artificially enchanted image of the Other.

Fraser, Andrew wrote:

Neo-communism is the highest stage of capitalism; it takes the form of a global system of managerial/therapeutic regimes terminally addicted to economic productivity, material wealth, and sensual gratification as the point and purpose of human striving. Even the most conformist WASPs are beset by a nameless longing for someone or something to fill the inner void left vacant by the disappearance of the living God-Man at the center of the Old Faith. Not surprisingly, WASPs are forever seeking a quick, supra-sensual “fix” for their psychic “dis-eases.” In the late twentieth century the corporate welfare state annointed exotic “people of color” as the last reservoir of spiritual vitality available to “white” Americans. The American Negro became the first beneficiary of the new annunciation.

Fraser, Andrew wrote:
In this respect, Milbank’s radical orthodoxy echoes Herbert Marcuse’s Freudian revision of the orthodox Marxist gospel of work. Both writers reject the notion that work is a necessary evil that must be endured until a socialist society produces the necessities of life through “a totally communal and mechanized process” whereby the individual will be free to spend his spare time as he chooses.
Marcuse portrays socialism as the breakdown of the rigid divisions between work and play characteristic of a capitalist economy. His goal is not “the transformation of labor but its complete subordination to the freely evolving potentialities of man and nature.” For both the Frankfurt School and Radical Orthodoxy “The ideas of play and display reveal their full distance from the values of productiveness and performance.” Because play “cancels the repressive and exploitative traits of labor and leisure,” it becomes “unproductive and useless.”[8] Marx’s utopian vision aimed at freedom from labor; Milbank and Marcuse seek freedom within the world of work.
On the other hand, as secular humanists, Marx and Marcuse contended that the alienated forms of
wage labor and commodity fetishism reflect the power of religious illusions. Milbank’s response is that if, indeed, capitalism is “somewhat like a religion,” it can in consequence “only be questioned or replaced by ‘another religion.’” Christianity may be “equally unfounded” but it is less prone to hubris than Marxism or critical theory, both of which remain firmly committed to the autonomy of the secular realm “where humanity defines itself as power, echoing God’s self-definition in the Creation.”

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Stefan Molyneux wrote:
The Jewish role in the origins and spread of communism is a fascinating and disturbing topic.

Two famous men - Churchill and Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn - both wrote that Jews were very involved, and have not been criticized for rank antisemitism.

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What was the Jewish percentage of the Russian population, at the time?
1% or 2%....or perhaps 3%.

I stand by my formula.
The percentage of a group in a population, compared to the percentage of its participation in power, must be the product of the percentage of the traits that make up the difference.
If they don't then something else is going on.
So 2% of a population occupying 40% of positions of power must be explained as a discrepancy in the traits required to attain power - if they do not then the difference is the percentage of some other factor(s)...like nepotism, conspiracy....and so on.

We now see why Stalin, and now Putin, are demonized by the Judeo-Potestant controlled "free press" - more the former than the latter.
Stalin assassinating Trotsky, and Putin assassinating and incarcerating the "oligarchs", were seminal events in their road towards "fascistic authoritarian status".
Check the heritage of the oligarchs. Patterns.
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Does anyone ever make movies about the "holocaust" that occurred there?
No....they aren't high enough on the victimhood hierarchy...and their coming dominance means the movies will never be made.

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Poor Marxist...classic Jew victim psychology.
Exploitation is part of natural selection.
Herbivores exploit the processing of solar energy work of plants; carnivores exploit the processing of the condensed solar energy work of herbivores.
The strong exploit the weak; the smart exploit the stupid.

It's the cycle of life.
To replace it, an intervention with collateral effects will produce pollutants....both material and genetic; unbalancing natural order.
A rebalancing is inevitable. No man can defeat the gods.

Nice job, working into it the Pagan allegory.
I'm like a genius...well compared to those with less than 80 IQ.

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Even the idea of class warfare is a human contraption. There are no classes...only individuals
Wait....who said that?
Goethe wrote:
Mankind? It is an abstraction. There are, always have been, and always be, men and only men.
Needed an impressive name to legitimize my brilliant insight.

Classes are artifices.
Words with no meaning....outside the minds who believe in them, for their own reasons.

Let's face it....Marxism is an example of Abrahamic nihilism....oops, I said it again....



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Some Marxists admit that there is no substance to Marxism other than resetiment seeking retribution, and the collective seeking to usurp the elites.
nothing more than a means to an end.
If you are born poor, and failed to earn wealth, then you must demand its sharing from those who have been more creative or fortunate - a blackmail.
No high ideologies and deep altruistic motives.
Basis stuff.
If you cannot earn, take; if you cannot take, threaten; if you cannot threaten; beg.

But...can't we connect this to nature?
Of course we can.
if you cannot gather energies from the sun, exploit plants; if you cannot exploit plant work, scavenge the dead; if you cannot scavenge take it by becoming proactive, a predator.
Herd psychology finds its place.
So, no more Nietzsche posturing for you commies. Admit what you are to yourselves., Herbivores.

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Marxist/capitalist in nature.



He who controls the food, is assailed by those who want to take it from him....

Economics in nature.




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The Marxist cannot help but divide human groups in abstractions they share with capitalists....money.

Societies had something we do not have today.
Homogeneity.
The elites shared blood, genetics, with their inferiors.

This made the inferior resentful and prone to ally with inferiors in other tribes...so we have the emergence fo class to describe the inferiors in all tribes united in their status of inferiority.
workers of the World Unite!!!
really means.....beta-males and excluded females across ethnic and racial divides unite in your shared resentment of the superior.
Instead of being inspired by the superior and striving to surpass them, they settled for a unified resentment and a victim identification that spanned bloodlines, cultures and civilization lines.

Of course the upper classes also tried to maintain their privileged position, even if their children did not inherit the traits that earned them that position.

This is exacerbated in heterogeneous, multicultural, multi-racial systems....modern ones.
Now there isn't even shared blood between the upper and the lower classes.
The leader has nothing in common with the simple citizen....he is not of his heritage, not of his race, not of his spiritual traditions...he is a stranger.
Resentment increases...across racial, and tribal lines.
The beta and omegas unite in their common victimhood and inferior genetics. The alphas work together to maintain their status...unlike in natural environments.
Although in modern capitalism some social migration is permitted to reduce resentment for the upper-class...the ruling class. We call this the middle-class.
The middle-class acting as a buffer between the upper and the lower.
All well-known.

The key here is homogeneity.
Blood relations.
With no external foe, and no shared identity, the individuals males turn on one another.
In nature inferior males aid the breeding pair, because they share genes with them. In older times the king was of the same bloodlines as those he ruled over. Their common goal was in antithesis to that of other bloodlines.

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Nobody resents the poor more than a Marxist theoretician. In them he see everything he strives not to be.

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Marxism converts the private resentments of individuals, towards their tormentors, into a global movement of salvation from the injustices of natural selection; exacerbated by the elite's claim and use of ownership and inheritance.
The latter dilutes the traits that produced dominance within the multiplying wealth it accumulates. Over generations the traits are replaced by the compounding inheritance, and this also compounds resentment towards them who no longer exhibit the markers of greatness; the former masks its personal resentment within an altruistic abstraction of their motives, replacing salvation with justice, they remain Abrahamic in spirit but secular in politics, wanting to gather around its mass movements a variety of people from disparate racial and cultural backgrounds, united by their shared resentment.
Herd psychology hiding members, each convinced he is for himself - selflessness as a cover for selfishness - both being hypocritical to some degree.

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A spontaneous uprising has yet to materialize, as was predicted by Marxist intelleigentia.
Capitalism avoids producing the levels of desperation and degeneration required.
This only occurred twice in the history of Europe - French Revolution & Russian Revolution - and in both cases common blood resulted in a denial of ethnic identity, as a expression hatred towards the elites that forced such desperate upheavals through sheer arrogance.
In today's heterogeneous systems such revolutions are next to impossible...yet the theoreticians continue to promote measures that will produce degeneration and the desperation required to spark them.

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A modern member of society has been made an investor in the very system that suppresses him.

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Marxism is the Abrahamic salvation and retribution myth mad secular.
Vengeance against naturally emerging hierarchies is a futile attempt to attain the absolutely divine - exempt from natural order.
One hierarchy is replaced by a new one, masking as belonging to the bases of its newly acquired privilege - the poor.
We saw this in the Soviet system.
Wealth and privilege became inconspicuous...it did not vanish, it morphed.

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