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PostSubject: Strength Training Strength Training EmptyWed Mar 16, 2016 5:53 pm

For posting feats of strength, athletes and training methods
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PostSubject: Re: Strength Training Strength Training EmptyWed Mar 16, 2016 5:55 pm

Not too hard to make one


So much harder to lift an object shaped like this than a loaded barbell


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“The blood of your fathers has turned to water in your veins. Not your lot is it to be strong as they were. Having tasted neither life’s sorrows nor it’s joy, like a sickling you look at life through a glass. Your skin will shrivel, your muscles grow weak, tedium will devour your flesh destroying desire. Thought will congeal in your skull and horror will stare at you from the mirror. Overcome yourself, overcome yourself. I tremble, I seethe, I clench, I seize the haul.” -Yuri Vlasov
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PostSubject: Re: Strength Training Strength Training EmptyThu Mar 17, 2016 6:22 am

Jarno wrote:
“The blood of your fathers has turned to water in your veins. Not your lot is it to be strong as they were. Having tasted neither life’s sorrows nor it’s joy, like a sickling you look at life through a glass. Your skin will shrivel, your muscles grow weak, tedium will devour your flesh destroying desire. Thought will congeal in your skull and horror will stare at you from the mirror. Overcome yourself, overcome yourself. I tremble, I seethe, I clench, I seize the haul.” -Yuri Vlasov

Yep, that makes me want to get up and work out in the park before dance.
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PostSubject: Re: Strength Training Strength Training EmptyThu Mar 17, 2016 3:35 pm

Beautiful lines, thank you for that.
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PostSubject: Re: Strength Training Strength Training EmptyFri Mar 18, 2016 2:28 pm

Impressive old guys

This guy Esko Ketola deadlifts over 200 kg and he is over 70 years old and only 69 kg bodyweight, probably the worlds strongest 72 year old.


Second trailer, nice footage at 00:50


This guy did 63 one-hand lifts with a over 90kg dumbell (a replica of 110 year old dumbell) at arnold strongman classics 2016 not even a month ago, I saw his performance, but due to copyright bullshit it got removed from youtube and I tried searching from internet for like 30 minutes and didn't find specific details of his performance. Not a very popular sport.


Even if you could deadlift 200kg you cannot automatically deadlift 100kg (or much less) one-handed, it takes a lot of practice. And the grip on this dumbell is thicker than a normal barbell so it's even harder.
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PostSubject: Re: Strength Training Strength Training EmptyFri Mar 18, 2016 8:24 pm

Just found this, CRAZY @ 91 BW, overhand and beltless, fuck belt and mixed grip, EDIT: but just noticed he uses straps in this one


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PostSubject: Re: Strength Training Strength Training EmptySat Mar 19, 2016 6:18 pm

Clarence seems to have stronger squat than Tom though, I am rarely interested watching belted squats and I can't stand American high-altitude squatting




One of the most versatile strength athletes, competes in weightlifting and strongman/powerlifting, very few can deadlift over 400 kg without straps
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PostSubject: Re: Strength Training Strength Training EmptyMon Mar 21, 2016 7:17 pm

Olympic wrestlers are tough, I guess that kind of throws were not very common in 130 kg weightclass, not completely related, but I look up to wrestlers


"His wrestling record is 887 wins and two losses."


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PostSubject: Re: Strength Training Strength Training EmptyTue Mar 22, 2016 10:21 am



Old videos from Clarence 2010


If only I could jump my own height, need to practice jumping
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PostSubject: Re: Strength Training Strength Training EmptyTue Mar 22, 2016 10:38 am

And he can still jump like that even now that he weighs over 100 KG... 3:12, someday I need to find some gymnastic place to practice handstand


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PostSubject: Re: Strength Training Strength Training EmptyWed Mar 23, 2016 1:45 pm

Old Clarence video, that feel when this guy does 6-10 fast reps with this weight I could barely squat once after two years...Though it's harder to squat slow than fast
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PostSubject: Re: Strength Training Strength Training EmptyThu Mar 24, 2016 6:51 pm

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Pretty good article about using rubber bands, works out the weaknesses of a movement
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PostSubject: Re: Strength Training Strength Training EmptyFri Mar 25, 2016 7:11 am

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Long writing relating to nutrition

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Nutrient timing is a popular nutritional strategy that involves the consumption of combinations of nutrients--primarily protein and carbohydrate--in and around an exercise session. Some have claimed that this approach can produce dramatic improvements in body composition. It has even been postulated that the timing of nutritional consumption may be more important than the absolute daily intake of nutrients. The post-exercise period is widely considered the most critical part of nutrient timing. Theoretically, consuming the proper ratio of nutrients during this time not only initiates the rebuilding of damaged muscle tissue and restoration of energy reserves, but it does so in a supercompensated fashion that enhances both body composition and exercise performance. Several researchers have made reference to an anabolic “window of opportunity” whereby a limited time exists after training to optimize training-related muscular adaptations. However, the importance - and even the existence - of a post-exercise ‘window’ can vary according to a number of factors. Not only is nutrient timing research open to question in terms of applicability, but recent evidence has directly challenged the classical view of the relevance of post-exercise nutritional intake with respect to anabolism. Therefore, the purpose of this paper will be twofold: 1) to review the existing literature on the effects of nutrient timing with respect to post-exercise muscular adaptations, and; 2) to draw relevant conclusions that allow practical, evidence-based nutritional recommendations to be made for maximizing the anabolic response to exercise.
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PostSubject: Re: Strength Training Strength Training EmptyFri Mar 25, 2016 7:19 am

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Neural adaptations to strength training involve disinhibition of inhibitory mechanisms, as well as intra- and intermuscular coordination improvements. Disinhibition affects the following mechanisms:

Golgi tendon organs - sensory receptors, located near the myotendinous junction, that elicit a reflex inhibition of the muscle they supply when it undergoes excessive tension, either by shortening or passive stretching
Renshaw cells - inhibitory connecting neurons (interneurons) found in the spinal cord, whose role is to dampen the rate of discharge of alpha motor neurons, thus preventing the muscular damage derived from tetanic contraction
Supraspinal inhibitory signals - conscious or unconscious inhibitory signals that come from the brain

The components of intramuscular coordination are as follows:

   Synchronization - the capacity to contract motor units simultaneously or with a minimum latency (that is, with a delay less than five milliseconds)
   Recruitment - the capacity to recruit motor units simultaneously
   Rate coding - the capacity to increase firing rate (motor unit discharge rate) in order to express more strength


Adaptations in intramuscular coordination transfer well from one exercise to another, as long as the specific motor pattern is established (intermuscular coordination). For instance, the maximum voluntary recruitment of motor units developed through maximum strength training can be transferred to a sport-specific exercise skill as long as its technique is known by the athlete. The objective of maximum strength macrocycles is to improve motor unit recruitment of the prime movers, whereas power macrocycles work mainly on rate coding. Contrary to popular belief, these two aspects of intramuscular coordination - recruitment and rate coding - play greater determinant roles than synchronization does in muscular force production.
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PostSubject: Re: Strength Training Strength Training EmptyMon Apr 04, 2016 8:35 am

Pretty good device for tracking calories, going to get this next month, though I always feel very uncomfortable using new "technologies".
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PostSubject: Re: Strength Training Strength Training EmptyTue Apr 05, 2016 9:32 am

Strongman competitors trains their biceps maybe few times a month since they are more concerned with overhead presses, atlas stones, deadlifts and squats. Powerlifters, weightlifters etc. do not specialize in isolated movements. (EDIT: contraction)



I don't think they have done armswrestling in WSM ever since Samuelsson broke his opponents arm by accident


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PostSubject: Re: Strength Training Strength Training EmptyTue Apr 05, 2016 9:52 am

I've never gone to a gym just for an "arm day", though I myself learned the hard way that bicep curls are an important exercise because it improves the grip a lot and I think strong forearms helps to keep a tight grip.

Weightlifters do biceps now and then only to work out the weaknesses in the muscles. Snatches and cleans uses hands only as a "rope", you don't use your arms to pull the bar at all, legs do all the work. Snatches and cleans are pretty much the most technical movements you can do at the gym, but also I think you really need a coach or a training partner for a major progression because the form and technique is something you have to improve your entire lifetime.

I quit weightlifting because I couldn't progress my squats while doing a weightlifting program and because my gym has 6 barbells, but only one of them is a weightlifting bar which spins so I hated to time my workouts assuming I wouldn't get in the gym same time as some casual idiot started doing barbell curls with the only bar I needed. (EDIT: what I mean by casual is someone who I see maybe once a month, or season athletes who come only to the gym when summer is coming to get in "summer shape" and they have bad manners at the gym)

This is the article that helped me to learn cleans/snatches when I still did weightlifting
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Moreover, your arms should have their elbow tips flared out (pointing to the sides) and your arms should be loose yet strongly gripping the barbell. The best way to get this cue is to think of your arms as ropes, with the only force applied through your hands as you firmly grip the barbell.

And this PDF that was hard to get
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PostSubject: Re: Strength Training Strength Training EmptyThu Apr 07, 2016 2:13 pm

I've never seen anyone do this with a barbell nor I can even find much footage of people doing it on the internet, but I want to try it.
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These movements are not for beginners they can damage your neck for life if you are not careful at first.


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PostSubject: Re: Strength Training Strength Training EmptyTue Apr 12, 2016 3:40 pm

Some personal thoughts about sports:

I would love to do kickboxing (just doing kicks and punches) as a cardio, but I cannot stand courses/classes or instructors, for some reason I detest sports clubs. And I don't want to drive a car to a location just to punch a bag.

I detest hockey, it's pretty much the sport which the upper-class kids get to play as a profession. Overpaid athletes, for example Pekka Rinne, got a 7 year contract in 2011 for 49 million dollars, winning a gold medal in WSM is maybe about 40,000 $. Winning a gold medal in Olympic weightlifting is not even near a half a million dollars.

Must be a real fun to play as a team and get paid way less than other players, real "sportsmanship".
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And not to mention soccer, the athletes become spoiled brats...
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PostSubject: Re: Strength Training Strength Training EmptyFri Apr 15, 2016 4:50 pm

That looks like a very stupid thing to do, the neck bridge.

Reminds me of these retards who climbed on top of the towers/buildings and then held themselves by 2 fingers or so on a height of hundreds of meters.

Pretty sure I heard some of them died doing that.

Although it's possible to get injured while weightlifting anyways, this is just stupid, it's increasing the probability of getting injured (or even killed) with no significant benefit in return.
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PostSubject: Re: Strength Training Strength Training EmptyFri Apr 15, 2016 5:06 pm

Neck bridge is also called "wrestlers bridge", its mainly for wrestlers obviously, if you didn't workout your neck for wrestling you'd brake your neck. I am pretty sure wrestlers do this very often.

But yeah, since I am not a wrestler I wouldn't put much weight, maybe max 40kg. Just that it builds a great looking neck even weightless and it feels really good to do.

2:13 is what I think this video is about



This guy for example have a really strong looking neck.
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PostSubject: Re: Strength Training Strength Training EmptyFri Apr 15, 2016 5:20 pm

And also I am very interested in training methods of other sports because I want to look and perform like an athlete,

Not like some physique competitor. Weak looking guys, on roids and on constant diets.
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So I'd rather take advices from wrestlers and rugby players etc than bodybuilders.
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PostSubject: Re: Strength Training Strength Training EmptyThu Apr 28, 2016 9:15 am

Probably get to bench 100kg in 2 months. It's not that I care about benching and 90% of times the bench is taken, so I don't really care for timing my workout just for the bench. I just want to be able to say that I can press my own bodyweight (95) and since adding 5kg each week seem to come pretty effortlessly. But main goal is this year just to get beltless squat to 150 kg, need to add 15 kg.
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The Chinese wooden man moves… ; )


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PostSubject: Re: Strength Training Strength Training EmptyFri Jan 13, 2017 10:44 am

Usually there's a difference between muscle strength and cardiovascular fitness.
Either your body is strong but your cardio is weak, or your cardio is strong and your body is weak.


Balancing the two would be ideal.
Convergence of body's muscular and cardiovascular strengths.

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That small guy training him is supposedly his dad
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No wonder why I always despised this smartass
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PostSubject: Re: Strength Training Strength Training EmptySun Aug 19, 2018 11:56 am

Jarno wrote:
That small guy training him is supposedly his dad

My eyes. His veins look like some nightmarish photoshop filter.

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Agreed. If and when I start body building, it will mostly be for self-defense and health reasons. A little bit of beauty reasons too though, trimmin the fat to look more sexy.
You know the main thing keeping me from it? Depression. I feel like I gain no real power from it, and there is no real point. Also, BO. I hate BO of others, and hate it on myself. Also, mirrors. I have body dysmorphia and hate looking at my mulatto self sometimes. And I am surrounded by mirrors of the north west and east, making it feel like some kind of nightmarish 1950's surrealist movie where I am drowning in insanity.
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