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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Fri Nov 11, 2016 11:50 am

"After watching Trump meet with Obama and other White house scum bag officials, its evident in his demeanor and countenance that he is now uncertain of his new situation and exudes real anxiety. Not a good sign."

Mebbe.

Also possible Trump is just lettin' time pass till he takes the Big Chair. Absolutely no reason for him to get his back up right now. 'I won (so fuck Clinton, fuck Obama, fuck the pussy kids marchin' in the streets)...just gonna kick back for a bit, watch the fireworks, bang my Barbie doll and then move in, and -- boy! -- when I move in, that's when my shit is gonna hit their fan, but good'.
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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Sat Nov 12, 2016 3:38 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Sun Nov 13, 2016 4:19 am

Again, we see that 'multi-culturalism' was really cultural nihilism. It is not that they want a multi-cultural society, but they want to be free from cultural expectations. That is, free from hierarchy.
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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Sun Nov 13, 2016 5:13 pm

What Trump is, is a born and bred symbol of what current modern American values represent: greed, narcissism, and ignorance, but also a kind of strong and mindless power. If these freaks and lunatics weren't so imprisoned by their own stunted perspectives, they would understand that the delusional system of democracy and its self serving tenets of individualism created Donald Trump and it was that same system that also elected him. He is channeling the ideologies of the American landscape into a subversive force of power and domination. He is no different than any other historical world leader, who is the product or symptom of his environment and country. It's that simple.

But it has nothing to do with Trump at this point. These freaks are protesting against their own inherited inferiority and against America itself, seeing for the first time how it really works.

What is occurring is a purge of America's degeneration, like pus from a skin legion. So much of the demented psychos of America's underbelly are now swarming like insects, showing exactly how far gone the modern citizenry really is.

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I wondered what the upheaval of a Trump loss would look like, but i also knew there would be some upheaval vice versa of a Clinton loss as well. At the very least this civil unrest is revealing itself in genuine ways. Various signs in the rioting that read such messages as "abolish the Electoral College". They are finally coming to terms, to some extent, with the hypocrisy of America and their own individual weakness in it. If they were truly noble and courageous, they would storm on the White House itself and start killing, like the French on Versailles.

When a parent disciplines a child for the first time, the child will throw a tantrum. The parent locks them in a room and leaves them to their venting. They will scream and break things and pound on the walls, but inevitably they will calm down and when they see the parent again, they will understand that they need it to survive.

These degenerates will always need the system and its pampering of their stupidity and protection of their unfitness from the big bad world. Just because a certain man comes along and decides to harness the true spirit and impetus of modern America for his own ends, does not negate that these freaks still need him, they still need the elite and they don't know how to be anything else but victims.
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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Sun Nov 13, 2016 6:22 pm

Upheaval from the 'right' would be an attempt to distance themselves from the hated. An attempt to get away from it. Like people thinking about secession and further distancing themselves from liberals in their daily lives - if possible.

From the left it is a cry for attention, for coming closer to them.
Come closer, I want to tell you how bad you are and what I deserve because you've upset me.
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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Tue Nov 15, 2016 5:02 pm



Again...it's beyond politics. A change in awareness. Right sides and wrong sides of history. Trumpism as a rupture in an era.
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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Wed Nov 16, 2016 4:06 am

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On why liberals hate conservative women like Anne Coulter and Michele Bachmann -
" [T]hese women cut to the heart of the progressive narrative. That’s why there are some unintended consequences of the women’s liberation movement. That, in fact, the women that would lead this country would be pro-family, they would have husbands, they would love their children. They wouldn’t be a bunch of dykes that came from the Seven Sisters schools up in New England." -- 2011 radio interview with Political Vindication Radio


On sending his girls to an elite academy in Los Angeles -
He "didn't want the girls going to school with Jews ... He said he doesn’t like Jews and that he doesn’t like the way they raise their kids to be ‘whiney brats.'" -- from his wife in court documents filed in 2007. Bannon has denied saying it.

On what keeps him going -
"Fear is a good thing. Fear is going to lead you to take action."

On furthering Tea Party goals -
"I’m a Leninist ... Lenin wanted to destroy the state, and that’s my goal too. I want to bring everything crashing down, and destroy all of today’s establishment."

On Breitbart News -
"We call ourselves 'the Fight Club.' You don’t come to us for warm and fuzzy."

“We think of ourselves as virulently anti-establishment, particularly ‘anti-’ the permanent political class. We say Paul Ryan was grown in a petri dish at the Heritage Foundation."

"We hire people who are freaks" and "They don’t have social lives."
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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Sat Nov 19, 2016 4:22 am

Hour long interview with Trump about his history. May be removed soon due to copyright.

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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Sat Nov 19, 2016 8:07 am

I suspect the only thing which allowed Trump the win was the potential for the disenfranchised European males to become domestic terrorists. One determined European male domestic terrorist could cause billions of damage within cities by targeting strategic lifelines of the country. This is what is still keeping Trump away from tangible threat. The moment that European males get complacent about their representation is when the wikileaks revealed "shadow government" will strike.

There is only one option for Trump to prevent this from happening, aside from what measures he has already taken: Keep rallying. This, intelligently, is his plan. This is what will keep the European males from becoming complacent and forgetting that politics exists for another 4 years. It is thusly forcing a choice on the establishment to play their final hands. The problem is that it is a losing hand for the establishment - at least in the USA, saving any foreign intervention which would likely happen. Foreign states like China would likely swoop in to protect its assets (debts) and because the opportunity simply presents itself. The USA and Britain would have very little support protecting itself from foreign involvement during/after a militaristic split in the country.

We already see the attempts recently by the establishment to formulate as many solutions as possible but their final Civil War or World War card. Right now it is through suggestions of censoring alternative media and the Internet, Chinese style. MSM pushing "Fake Website Lists" and China calling for global censorship. These are their hands, being played earlier than they wanted to play them. An opportunist like Trump comes right in at the ripe time when they were about to solidify their grip with a Clinton administration, and forces them to act sooner.

Yes, I think Clinton would have "won" if there weren't a threat of European males becoming free radicals. Some sort of rigging would have happened. They chose the second best option... to concede some ground and hopefully take their enemy by surprise with a renewed front of what should have rightfully been seen as a cultural repudiation of their global Stalinism. Most protesters are paid because of this: most of the left is demoralized and crushed. The idiotic outrage is an attempt to prevent the eternal self-righteous narcissism of the masses from being broken.

That's my hypothesis.

Edit: If nothing else, they will try to hijack Trump's flavor of nihilism, as it is pushed to a further extreme in reactionary response to further Marxist agitators/"protesters". The benefit of using nihilism to control the populace is the ability to make them believe there's progress where there is none.
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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Sat Nov 19, 2016 3:40 pm

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I suspect the only thing which allowed Trump the win was the potential for the disenfranchised European males to become domestic terrorists. One determined European male domestic terrorist could cause billions of damage within cities by targeting strategic lifelines of the country. This is what is still keeping Trump away from tangible threat. The moment that European males get complacent about their representation is when the wikileaks revealed "shadow government" will strike.

There is only one option for Trump to prevent this from happening, aside from what measures he has already taken: Keep rallying. This, intelligently, is his plan. This is what will keep the European males from becoming complacent and forgetting that politics exists for another 4 years. It is thusly forcing a choice on the establishment to play their final hands. The problem is that it is a losing hand for the establishment - at least in the USA, saving any foreign intervention which would likely happen. Foreign states like China would likely swoop in to protect its assets (debts) and because the opportunity simply presents itself. The USA and Britain would have very little support protecting itself from foreign involvement during/after a militaristic split in the country.

We already see the attempts recently by the establishment to formulate as many solutions as possible but their final Civil War or World War card. Right now it is through suggestions of censoring alternative media and the Internet, Chinese style. MSM pushing "Fake Website Lists" and China calling for global censorship. These are their hands, being played earlier than they wanted to play them. An opportunist like Trump comes right in at the ripe time when they were about to solidify their grip with a Clinton administration, and forces them to act sooner.

Yes, I think Clinton would have "won" if there weren't a threat of European males becoming free radicals. Some sort of rigging would have happened. They chose the second best option... to concede some ground and hopefully take their enemy by surprise with a renewed front of what should have rightfully been seen as a cultural repudiation of their global Stalinism. Most protesters are paid because of this: most of the left is demoralized and crushed. The idiotic outrage is an attempt to prevent the eternal self-righteous narcissism of the masses from being broken.

That's my hypothesis.

Hillary could have won easily, had she not been as smug and arrogant as she was and had taken herself alot more seriously. I return back to my original theory that the Left was suffering from an internal passive decadence and dissension that cultivated hubris. They just got lazy and they badly underestimated Trump. It's as simple as that. His masculine poise, his opportunistic and revolutionary fervor. Goes to show that a quintessentially masculine leadership presence is still the timeless characteristic that attracts.

As far as him being only a one-term president...who knows. I'm not one for making predictions. 4 years is a long time. His cabinet and administration appointees so far are all conservative white males, including Stephen Bannon as an interesting ace card of nationalistic disposition.

Hillary must be a royal pain in the ass for the Left to deal with. A big test is whether he will follow through with pursuing the Clintons for criminal activity, because if he succeeds in prosecuting them, it will be quite damaging for them.
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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Sat Nov 19, 2016 4:29 pm

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As far as him being only a one-term president...who knows. I'm not one for making predictions. 4 years is a long time. His cabinet and administration appointees so far are all conservative white males, including Stephen Bannon as an interesting ace card of nationalistic disposition.

Mass deportations of all illegals, laws which incentivise for those who are already legal in the country to leave the US (labour laws, laws against sending money back to folks home and so on)
Shoving them out of critical electoral states with incentives for a temporal breather.
It could be done.

All the complacent numpties who see this election as just being another of many possible victories for the Republicans and business as usual will have to be woken by some harsh numbers and (new) racist moral standards of racial-preservation.

Just as with the anti-feminism hysteria, racism will have to be viewed as something positive or at least as something that is only a shaming term. Among the Trump base at least.

To do this, the left needs to be agitated even more. Normal White Americans must have their daily exposure to hysteric shaming and blaming while they are provided a feeling of safety by a community which rejects those lefties and robs them of their moral authority, rendering them into annoying disrespected enemies.

Sounds like wishful thinking but in many ways this is already happening and as long as the left can't control its base, can't make them decent, it could work out. Maybe.
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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Sat Nov 19, 2016 8:22 pm

Bannon is becoming more interesting to me than Trump right now.

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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:40 pm


Wow!
Spencer is a bit retarded.
He could not answer why the top CEO's are white?
Because they rise based no performance DUMBASS!!!
He let that gorilla manhandle him as he smirked like a goofball.

And then Egypt is a Black civilization?!!!!
Shocked
Is everyone with a tint to his pigmentation a Negro?

The goofball didn't know how to respond to that?
Negroes floated up the Nile for centuries and all they established were mud-huts by the Nile delta.
The ones who established the ancient Egyptian civilization were not Europeans either, and they certainly were not sub-Saharan Africans or what we call Negroes because the majority of the slaves that were sent to America were taken form that region.
Does he know about evolution?!

We evolve, DUMBASS!!!
That we can all trace our ancestry to some primate does not mean we and that primate are equals.

And the rhetoric about the U.S. dominating because of Negro slave labour is insane.
We must forget the Spanish American War, or the War of Independence or the Second World War where the U.S. stayed out of it until Europe was totally destroyed and spent those years leasing and leasing weapons and to Russia and Britain and the Allies...
There was slave-labour in many places in the world.
It was an infinitesimal factor.....but let us dumb-it-down, for the gorillas, and tell them a comforting story about how it was their work that made the U.S. dominate the post-war world.

Spencer just smiles and nods his head like a Dumbass.
This guy is the face of the alt-right?
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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Fri Nov 25, 2016 8:15 pm

Spencer just understands he's experiencing an injustice and rallies behind that anger. Most followers of his do not want to get into the 'real history' because they always come across resources which 'blame white babies' when they do.

The whole Alt-Right movement is a bit retarded; accepting gays and Semites in their identity. Homosexual behavior doesn't produce white children. Semites aren't white, no more than a sheltered Asian with pale skin is white.
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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Fri Nov 25, 2016 8:34 pm

Reminds me of the MRA movement.
They could discriminate between male/female and could construct great arguments, but when you introduce race they shut-down.
These movements are outcrops of the Nihilistic victim identity process.
It is victim-status that gives you the identity.

For the MRA's the Modern victimization of males, through feminization, and for the Spencer alt-right crowd the victims of globalization denying Caucasians victim-status.
Both seek seclusion.
Turning away, or seeking their own nation-state.


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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Fri Nov 25, 2016 9:07 pm

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The whole Alt-Right movement is a bit retarded; accepting gays and Semites in their identity. Homosexual behavior doesn't produce white children. Semites aren't white, no more than a sheltered Asian with pale skin is white.


They harbor a surreptitious contempt for minorities, but they are too indoctrinated and effete to embrace it completely so they sustain and reiterate the politically correct status quo. The last thing the Alt right is, is White nationalist. They are liberal nationalists; aggrieved disenfranchised leftists. That video with Molyneux entertaining those two women monkeys for example, speaks volumes about their loyalty to political correctness. They have no real values or standards.

Theodore Kaczynski exposed the victim psychology of leftists. See his manifesto to understand how it correlates to the Alt right.

Most of them embrace that impartial objective stance that is ingrained in blind academia. They have no real beliefs, they will never assent to anything concrete about themselves in relation to reality. They have never defined themselves as anything more than messengers of facts and data; they will never express a genuine belief that Europeans are historically superior, so they take comfort in remaining relativists. Not that facts or data are negative things, but the point is they hide behind academia to maintain an image of humbleness to be politically correct.
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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Fri Nov 25, 2016 9:42 pm

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Wow!
Spencer is a bit retarded.
He could not answer why the top CEO's are white?
Because they rise based no performance DUMBASS!!!
He let that gorilla manhandle him as he smirked like a goofball.

And then Egypt is a Black civilization?!!!!
Shocked
Is everyone with a tint to his pigmentation a Negro?

The goofball didn't know how to respond to that?
Negroes floated up the Nile for centuries and all they established were mud-huts by the Nile delta.
The ones who established the ancient Egyptian civilization were not Europeans either, and they certainly were not sub-Saharan Africans or what we call Negroes because the majority of the slaves that were sent to America were taken form that region.
Does he know about evolution?!

We evolve, DUMBASS!!!
That we can all trace our ancestry to some primate does not mean we and that primate are equals.

And the rhetoric about the U.S. dominating because of Negro slave labour is insane.
We must forget the Spanish American War, or the War of Independence or the Second World War where the U.S. stayed out of it until Europe was totally destroyed and spent those years leasing and leasing weapons and to Russia and Britain and the Allies...
There was slave-labour in many places in the world.
It was an infinitesimal factor.....but let us dumb-it-down, for the gorillas, and tell them a comforting story about how it was their work that made the U.S. dominate the post-war world.

Spencer just smiles and nods his head like a Dumbass.
This guy is the face of the alt-right?
What a Face  

Embarassed How embarassing
This is how its done Spency
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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Sat Nov 26, 2016 1:57 am

Reiteration of Left-Right and Liberal-Conservative as of November 25 2016:

Left-Right is the measurement of how big the government ought to be, and how much government intervention there ought to be, especially within social affairs of daily life (thought-crime). The Left desires big government and big intervention, thus support "taxing the rich" and encourage passing thousands and thousands of laws on the books. The Right, therein, desires the opposite, as few regulations and government oversights as possible. The Right would be more 'Libertarian' by default, pro-Business, pro-Industry, and even pro-Military (privatized, not public, possibly mercenary). The Left are globalist, since a Globalized government is the best possible outcome, and so encourage military interventions to spread "Democracy" as a means of spreading and building even bigger forms of a universal government-state system.

Liberal-Conservative is a measurement value of "Freedom" and individuality. Liberals tend to be individualistic and promote as much 'freedom' as possible to others, especially in the form of 'opportunity". Liberals are fixated on "opportunity" and appeal to victim-ology. Liberals want everybody to start "Equal" and with a "Clean Slate". Thus Liberalism is necessary Unnatural and Anti-Natural. Conservatism is more "Geneticist" and Natural. There is no equality, no fairness, no justice, and that's how it's always been anyway. Thus Liberalism is Moralistic (religious) while Conservatism is Irreligious and more 'spiritual'. Conservatives see Liberals with inverted morality, and vice-versa with liberals. A Conservative focuses on individual and social responsibility (Collectivism) while a Liberal focuses on who's the biggest victim (Victim-ology, Semiticism, Zionism, Abrahamism).
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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Sat Nov 26, 2016 3:17 am

Spencer is low-T and he wants to sell something to the public - the alt-right.
If you don't want to cuck as a salesman then you have to sell fear and not appeasement.

He's also very self-conscious, seeing himself as detached from his actions. Questioning himself how he comes across.
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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Sat Nov 26, 2016 4:57 pm

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Here's what I think: Until stresses produce more direct pressure things will remain as they are. It might take trauma for things to change in any real way. People have been very comfortable for quite a long time. The population is sleek and fat and distracted. Perhaps I have more faith than you about what smaller groups of excellent people have historically done and how resourceful Europeans have proven to be. I don't consider other races to even be hostile to Europeans. I just see them as infiltrating the space that Europeans have negated for far too long. Their behaviour is natural and justifiable. Europeans have lost their naturalness and only friction can see it return as far as I can see. It could never come from the ballot box. Not even in increments.


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"The awareness about the kinship between Indo-European peoples, religions and languages, as well as its derivation from a single common core itself has a number of elements tending to form the foundation of a unitary and binding idea of the White Race. This idea can and must contribute to make significant awareness for contemporary Europe, to the extent that the "Aryan Myth" becomes a part of a worldview, both traditional and revolutionary.

Against the global and subversive tide which threatens to engulf Europe and its people, the "Indo-European Idea" constitutes a reference point for survivor European energies. This "Aryan Idea" should not simply and only refer to the sense of belonging to the White Race, but also the conscious acceptance of the values embodied in the Indo-European Tradition in history.

The fact is that despite language differences and geographical distances, there was a spiritual and racial unity from the Germanic Iceland to the Vedic India, a unity that leaves a strong mark on epic monuments such as the Iliad, the Mahabharata and the Nibelungelied. Inside this unity Hellas and Rome flourished, also aristocratic, qualitative and agonistic values of the classical world. The awareness of this tradition of blood and spirit and its opposition to the forms of semitic-abrahamic religiosity, infiltrated into Europe during the decline of the classical world and which today come back to emerge as a solvent forces, is vital for defining a specifically European worldview.

Christianity has never achieved such unity, and instead has generated a long-term series of divisions and sectarian fragmentations in mutual conflict due to its own dogmatic and fundamentalist nature, which only have plunged the White Race in an ethnic and spiritual crisis, besides its universal nature, which has led to the dissolution of ethnic identities.

Thus the Indo-European idea has presented to us as the key to the origin of Europe, also aspiring to be a revolutionary instrument that allows us to understand that not all elements that emerge or develop in Europe have the same value and how are distinguished, in Europe's history, central and peripheral trends; European trends and anti-European trends.

One and great European family.
No more brothers' wars!

Even if some of these European branches, warriors by nature, fought bravely and honorably each other in the past, they didn't for religious reasons, contrary to the many christian denominations. The particularity of christians is that they will never be able to be united because their dogmas, and indeed, they are still fighting each other because of that. Today, Europeans who rediscover their true roots are realizing that their beliefs are not an impediment to be united, because they come from the same source.

*Side note: Although Hungarians, Finnish, Estonians, Basques, and others don't speak Indo-European languages, they share most of genetics with I.E. speakers and are still White and Europeans."

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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Sat Nov 26, 2016 5:29 pm

Taking the following article out of restricting it only to Trump, the larger pic. of the Lethe-argic opium of "Hope-ium" is a significant coining covering all things said in the Half-world thread. Ansuz in reverse.

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The God-Father.

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The nihilism of the Namelessness of money - the neutral signifier, begets the nihilism of a business-Name - blood, where family means other-worldly and byzantine trans-substantiation.

When blood becomes business, it becomes a bloody business…

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"Mafia is only a metaphor for America and capitalism, which will do anything to protect and perpetuate itself…"


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Pinker then quoted a line from The Godfather: "I don't like violence. ... I'm a businessman. Blood is a big expense."

"And as blood becomes a bigger expense," he continued, "and as you buy and sell things, as opposed to plundering things, other people become more valuable alive than dead. And there is both within a country, and globally, a correlation between engaging in commerce and refraining from war. You don't kill your customers."

Or to put it as The Godfather did: "Leave the gun. Take the cannoli."
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Ms. Jones, the film colleague, said that in their years working together, Mr. Bannon occasionally talked about the genetic superiority of some people and once mused about the desirability of limiting the vote to property owners.

“I said, ‘That would exclude a lot of African-Americans,’” Ms. Jones recalled. “He said, ‘Maybe that’s not such a bad thing.’ I said, ‘But what about Wendy?’” referring to Mr. Bannon’s executive assistant. “He said, ‘She’s different. She’s family.’”
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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Thu Dec 01, 2016 7:31 pm

These people have the "right" to vote!!!!









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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Fri Dec 02, 2016 12:18 am

The explosion of young and educated Rightwing white males can, in large part, be attributed to GamerGate.
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-Democrat 'playboy' against guns at 15 years old. Was always skeptical of Christianity - was a general 'agnostic' but favored Christian culture because it's what I knew, grew up with and adapted to.
-9/11 Truther movement has me questioning the official narrative.
-Playing video games. A lot. No TV. No Indoctrination-Vision to culturally move me one way or another.
-Find out about Occupy movement and 'Anonymous' 4chan.
-Still have cultural values I had since I was a kid because no TV.
-Father tells me a story about an old trip to Disney Land where he encounters a weapons engineer in a hot tub at a resort. The man told my father "Yeah, we're preparing for the next World War." Father checks out the whole meeting and finds kiosks/booths set up for military-industrial companies like Lockheed Martin, etc.
-Sporadically investigate 9/11 truth movement, still curious of a government conspiracy or something
-Ron Paul runs, I become a supporter at 2012. Notice them bringing up some stupid newsletter saying he's "racist" despite the fact he continually disavowed it.
-Find out accidentally through libertarian movement that the 9/11 commission was stifled and the public purposely kept uninformed to protect US foreign policy on Israel. Think it's interesting and from now on I'm skeptical about Jewish influence in my country.
-Ron Paul lost, return to video games.
-Learn about Austrian economics and Stefan Molyneux Anarcho-Capitalism and N.A.P.
-Become 'Voluntaryist' for a while and N.A.P., think of 'defooing'.
-GamerGate happens and I then notice bullshit injecting itself into gaming under 'feminism'.
-Investigate GamerGate and then encounter SJWism as 'anti-racist' and 'feminist'.
-Learn about Ryan Faulk from his criticisms of Molyneux. Ryan Faulk presents strong arguments which turn me into a race realist, but not a white nationalist like he was.
-Generally research SJWism and investigate racism claim some more and find the arguments against races existing as totally obtuse. Discrimination against women was totally incompatible with a capitalist model which would favor profits over prejudice. Highly favor trusting my senses and data over ideological rationalizations. Rejecting '''racism''' would mean, to my 'autist' mind, rejecting evolution in every meaningful way. The cognitive dissonance is too much.
-I become 'race realist' and MGTOW due to feminism, but still Austrian economic AnCap Voluntaryist leaning.
-MGTOW, I encounter Satyr in a comment section and find my way here.
- Learn about the nihilism of MGTOW and the Atheist+ feminism/anti-racism movement and its connections to religion.
-Learning process for a couple years.
-Trump starts running for president, return to 4chan where I resided for the Ron Paul movement. Proceed to shitpost like I've always done since GamerGate because video games became mostly shit/POZZED.
-Learn of Kek and meme a bombastic president into office just to stick a middle finger up to The Cuck Right and SJW left. Reason: He'll either destroy the country faster or make it significantly better. Favored either. If I'm young and it collapses, I'm at an advantage than if it collapses when I'm older, especially with the heavy indoctrination going on in school.
-Find out maybe Clinton should've won so 1984 came and 'woke up' the Europeans - but still believe that, probably, the 'elites' were metaphorically 'slowly boiling the frog' to make the West like China; meaning they approached it too intelligently (modelling China) for them to fuck up their genociding of Europeans. Evidence for this being the extreme and recent 'fake news' crack down which was going to happen under Clinton, still going down anyway. Controlling information to such a degree meant a silent genocide that no one even knew existed would be possible - the same way the Germany sexual assaults were covered up until social media exposed it. Clinton/Establishment still determined to kill internet speech/credibility; Alt-Media.
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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Wed Jan 25, 2017 4:57 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Sun Jan 29, 2017 3:28 pm

2 new Colttaine's videos





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I already knew most of this from my own observations, but it's nice to see somebody provide more publicly observable evidence. Funny how so many of you are so surprised about basic stuff like people in more natural environments being more conservative, while people in more artificial environments being more liberal, and so much so that you think it's worthy of making videos about.

Not to say I'm not glad to see somebody explore the subject in more detail, just noting it is funny to me how some basic stuff can perplex people.
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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Fri Feb 03, 2017 9:55 pm

What was previously Left/Right was an ethnic management within a white country, of how best to achieve their ethnic aims. 'Liberalism' has been forced to sell this narrative, which is what is forcing the violence now - they are being called out on their lies that the proto-typical 'Left' ever had anything to do with the benefit of the ethnic white population. When the lie is this huge, the only solution is deflection and violence.

Every Leftist has a pseudo-scientific intellectual behind them saying "Liberal policies are what's good for white people because it's what's good for humans." whilst their loud speakers bellow "Fuck white people! Stop whiteness! White genocide is good!" With casual dismissal, these 'intellectuals' dismiss the behavior as irrational - but put up little protest to it.

We already see that a new paradigm is being formed, with the assumptions to go with them, if there is not a massive push rightward. Trump has made the Right even more like a Leftist/Capitalist-Nationalist party. Homosexuality/Culture doesn't matter, just money and 'individual liberty'. In fact, any culture will become a new 'prejudice'.

The current Left will probably not be destroyed, but just driven further left as they accept a black-fetishizing Jewish homosexual to be the hardest 'Right' of any political movement, even throwing away what was 10 years ago a position against homosexual marriage.

The slightest nationalistic policy signed from Trump is equated with a genocide. Now, anti-fa has made its appearance just in time in order to scare together the whole populace under a neo-Capitalism.

Now it will be Classical anti-racist Liberals against every (non-Jewish) group with ethnic interests. This is the successful divide and conquer of all ethnic identities and groups that aren't Jewish.
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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Sat Feb 04, 2017 12:34 am

MGTOW and PUA are distinct movements, but their advocacy goes largely unopposed by very many "anti-feminists" which congregate on alternative media. A recent development in the cultural war between the supposed Left/Right is the appropriation of 4chan culture for the purposes of "Humanism" which will become little else than a new frontier for Zionists. Here is an article on what is called "Kekistan" which is currently propagating in alt-media circles.
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The rallying behind the absurdist culture of Kek is being combined with the SJW culture, as they both promote a nihilistic base for the perspective of their followers. The promotion of the annihilation of Western Culture through diffusion by the left finds itself comfortable with the mockery that comes within the culture of Kek, which challenges those who take ideology 'too seriously'. Now comes the relabeling of SJWs as a sort of politically totalitarian Humanism.

\"Orthodoxy", by G.K Chesteron wrote:
When a religious scheme is shattered it is not merely the vices that are let loose. The vices are, indeed, let loose, and they wander and do damage. But the virtues are let loose also; and the virtues wander more wildly, and the virtues do more terrible damage. The modern world is full of the old Christian virtues gone mad. The virtues have gone mad because they have been isolated from each other and are wandering alone. Thus some scientists care for truth; and their truth is pitiless. Thus some humanitarians only care for pity; and their pity (I am sorry to say) is often untruthful.

Through the neurotic promotion of altruism comes the reactionary response of a rejection of any idea of altruism (which will be combined with hyper-individualism) through civic nationalism. The reduction to capital for defining a person is now taking place; Trump as the 'anti-Christ' is now being fulfilled with the amassing of centrists away from recent riots/anti-fa attack. Suddenly, out of fear, they've abandoned what conservative notions they had of politics and have begun running under the wing of Trump's Americanism. What the libertarian or GamerGater of 2012 knew about the Communist feminists/anti-racists, the centrist Democrat of 2017 now finally has a peek at and is horrified.

The trap set by the young classically liberal white men of the West, who saw the perpetuation of Communist thought trying to invade the media which they used as an escape from it, has been set in motion.
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Many of the same are becoming deradicalized now (especially those that are younger and did not experience the 'r-EVOL-ution' of Ron Paul that failed because of media bias) that the trap they set has gone off - satisfied with the fruits of their veterans and inculcated from youth with little experience of a society without modern technology, which causes the bleeding/osmosis of identity into the digital realm, where they can Role Play (LARP) as anything they'd like to be, as long as they're convincing enough to their own little circle.

The paradigm that was hoped for by young white men was one that gave advantages to them on either side - the same game which Jews have been accused of playing (to argue with each other on the surface, but secretly agree, unsaid, to promote their own group/ethnic interests). For other, perhaps, just a chance to die with honor; as honor is primitively attached to the perception and propagation by others. This is what was being robbed by the increasing censorship being performed by the Communists, benefiting from the void being created by the Capitalist classes attempting to import more consumers and debt-holders by mass immigration. Capitalist greed taking precedence over nation; they could have incentivized families to reproduce by altruism, but decided they get more quick bang-for-buck (and they face less competition) by importing from the third world.

These rich 'elites' were faced with a libertarian cultural revolution in which their power would have been decreased, or a Communist totalitarianism. In the former, why would they want to decrease their own power? In the latter, there was the epitome of 'humanism', of hedonist and self-interested 'altruism'. Another kind of consumerism which is a preferable alternative for them than the prospect of losing influence or power.
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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Mon Feb 06, 2017 9:43 am

Thought about the 'Russian Hacker' narrative, which is distinctly lacking in any sort of hard evidence and likely a hoax: This lie is a maintenance of political currency.

The best strategy for a failing deceiver is to introduce a new lie, which they can then build off of to continue without much interruption or to avoid a complete revelation of their deception. The 'establishment' media narrative hit a brick wall when it ceased having a story or an event - when it had a void in the anti-nationalist news cycle, which threatened its audience reflecting on what is/has happened and concluding they were lied to. This lie is taken as fact by its many supporters, and it is the foundation which prevents them from simply becoming enraged and rioting apes which have had their 'dreams' broken, the promises broken. We already got a look at this through what rioting there was. More importantly, though, it's to prevent a complete demoralization by having no more arguments against 'your enemy'.

This lie doesn't need to be the basis forever. It only needs to be the basis until your enemy makes some mistake which is substantial enough to become the new basis for their opposition, which one can then utilize deflection with. And it only needs to sustain itself before it can be effectively called out, specifically for its intended audience. In that latter case, you invent a new lie as a basis/deflection. However, if that never comes or if no event is significant enough, the lie (Russian hacker) is then built upon with as many more lies as they can get away with creating. With as much events and other occurrences which they may stack to cover it, all while assuming the same "I'm completely correct about my enemy being your enemy" narrative. There's a benefit to this, if they can manage to build something off the original lie and people believe it: If ever there is a deconstruction of these layers, the outrage will increase and increase. That is, the closer they get to being reminded of the baselessness of their views, the more layers that are peeled off (layers added after the lie), each layer advances the amount of outrage and opposition that is felt by their adherents. This is from their own denial of being in such a humiliating position as to learn that they believed a lie/deception.

Subsequently, each layer added onto the lie is felt as a 'victory'. Example: Russian hacker defends narrative that "Trump is bad." Now, one of the next victories was to be the Inauguration audience. That's something now which 'enemies of Trump' can feel comfortable with as a fall back. The next one? MLK Jr. bust removed from white house. Desperately trying to find some sort of 'edge' against Trump, even when he mistypes some word on Twitter or, really, posts anything - the petty come out of the woodwork to try and get their licks in. To try and get something. Another was the 'Muslim Ban' being frozen by a judge. A minor setback, but a rallying cry for the otherwise angry/haters and demoralized. With the recent football game, you could see its politicization by many - only to have it blow up in their face (since Patriots won, the team Trump 'picked'.)

This is the political battlefield when the population is so nihilistic and sheltered. What matters is not reality nor what things would happen there, but whether or not one is safe from criticism. This infantilization, of course, being driven by the ones providing the false hopes and promises of a better egalitarian/'humanist' governance.
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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Mon Feb 06, 2017 4:54 pm

Russia is still America's scapegoat. Cold War roots still run deep. I tend to take a realistically philosophical stance on Trump. Meaning, that i view him with all his flaws and misgivings and illusions but with a nuanced understanding of the symbol he represents, which is the repudiation in some, but not all ways, of the radical left. Better him than anyone else, at this point. The classic left is what his value system is still ingrained in however, with Bannon as his Aristotle.

I think Trump's aggressive bravado and delusions of grandeur are historically natural to a country born from such delusions of omnipotence, of 'predestination' to use Max Weber's term. Trump is summoning the ideological vagaries and instabilities of America's forfathers and their lack of unity except to idealism. Unity in America is impossible because it has no people, no race and no ethos. Trump understands this on a visceral level and now intends to recreate the landscape yet again based on that national principle.

He simply requires the proper guidance and instruction. Steve Bannon is the start.

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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Wed Feb 08, 2017 12:06 pm

Exposing how Nihilism, or more specifically humanism and liberalism, are really projections upon what threatens them of what they are most guilty of.


When they say 'do not judge a book by its cover' or accuse others of some phobia, it is themselves they are exposing.
Resentment, envy, vindictiveness to compensate for insecurity and an inferiority complex manifesting as terror expressing this fear as animosity an defensiveness.

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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Sat Feb 11, 2017 10:07 am


The idea that Conservatism is the true radical idea reflects my metaphysics where order is unique in a cosmos tending towards increasing chaos.
The 'progress' liberals propose is an embracing of chaos, or change as they call it.
This promotion of change is an agreement with the natural state of increasing chaos. Not a 'radical' position, at all.
Whether we like it or not, change happens, and we measure it as time, or project it as possibility and experience it as space.
We do not need to promote change, because it happens.
Supporting the inevitable is nonsensical, and hypocritical.
One does not bring about change, CHANGE happens whether you want it or not.
Of course, in their deluded minds, what they really mean by 'progress' and by embracing the inevitability of 'change', is a partial understanding of it.
What these naive, delusional, cowards mean by 'change' is rooted in their binary understanding of reality, and their inversions of it. It also exposes their deep rooted animosity towards life, existence, and who and what they are, also expressed through the current identity confusion battles.
They despise who and what they are, within the world, as it is, but instead of adjusting self to world, they attempt to adjust world to self, by lying, using words, as if they were magical forces.
Changing your attitude towards world does not change the world, only how you relate to it.
In their demented minds renaming a natural process means you've altered it, and how it impacts you within world.
For them 'change' means renaming concepts, changing their meaning as if this also changed the world they are forced to endure.
Progress, for such cowards, means a towards something 'better than this', exposing their dissatisfaction with what is, and their place in it.
Instead of doing it with actions they do it by using words - declarations, trying to change definitions, forcing others to abide by their verbal delusions, and so on.
Any change is better than what they are, and what the past has manifested as.
Adjusting your lot in life begins by first understanding world, and your place in it.
Freedom, for them, means detachment, rejection, of a determining, immutable and hated past.

Progress always means towards the better, because they've inverted the cosmic decline towards chaos, into a towards order, which has now replaced God as the secular version of absolute oneness.
They promote and try to destroy any barriers towards the advancement towards total chaos, as a unifying oneness, within which they finally find salvation, relief, in dilution. They are anti-order...any order that stands in the way of this inevitable coming randomness.  

What is truly radical is order, within this cosmic disordering.
It is the, so called, conservative that is the rebellious attitude, attempting to stop the natural advancement towards chaos - ordering what is disordering.
Supporting and promoting order = symmetry, proportionality, beauty, reliability, matter/energy and so on.
Of course conservatives go too far, infected by the same nihilism their hypocritical counterparts, the liberals suffer from.
What they mean by 'order' is whatever form is in their individual interests.
They wish to conserve only order when they, and their own, benefit from it.
This also exposes a distaste for nature, and the natural processes, of ascent and decline, for attraction and repulsion. They want to freeze time/space into their ideal state.

The two, Liberals/Conservatives as the political movements we've experienced in western politics are two sides of the same Nihilistic coin, creating the illusion of dialogue, or free-speech, when they debate which version of Nihilism ought to prevail, the One or the Nil = authentic, pure Nihilism, or hypocritical positive Nihilism.

Again how I define Nihilism is honest.
Nihilism = any human abstraction, idea(l), noumenon, that contradicts the real, the phenomenon, the apparent, or is contradicted by it.
The manner in which we've been taught to understand Nihilism is based on Russian, Orthodox Christian and then Marxist paradigms.
The absence of God, meaning, universal purpose and morality, is not a negative, but only for  cowards and hypocrites. It is a positive, not only because it is the necessary condition to make life possible, but also because it permits the possibility for free-will, to counter determinism.

Nihilists are against any order outside their willful control, and in their private, and personal self-interests, and are always for the abstractions in their heads, the subjectivity that satisfies their needs and is in line with their private and personal self-interests - in other words any order they've crated and exists in their minds.
Whatever threatens, or contradicts this esoteric order, they baptize, evil, then bad, authoritarian, totalitarian...and this includes NATURAL order, anthropomorphize it as the devil, or assuming it is merely another human construct, in opposition to science and empiricism.
When they hear 'order' they fear it is a alien will imposing itself upon their own.
Therefore, natural order, as the manifestation of past made present, must be a product of a consciousness, a Satanic mind, to be opposed, contradicted, by other own private order, their subjectivity.
Anyone defending this natural order must be in collusion with it, therefore, it's a vast conspiracy, of "I say so", which would also include science, and its mother philosophy.
The idea that a mind, a philosophy, can express a world as it is, uncover order, is alien in their cowardly psychosis....too much to handle. They must make order, any reported, or uncovered, kind, another construct...another human fabrication.
Order, for them, automatically means man-made. This falls into their psychotic Abrahamic mythologies, or Marxist dogma.
Everyone is either in collusion, or a victim of a socially fabricated order.  
There is always someone else to blame for what they despise in themselves and their place in the world. They can never hold themselves accountable....remaining innocent, and so all they can do is endure.
There's always someone to blame for their despised condition, always some brute, evil mind imposing this order upon them, and they the innocent, the wronged, freedom-fighters, trying to escape their own past - even if in the form of genetic determinism.
Order always has a face, is conscious, and willful, therefore it can be pleaded with, manipulated, tricked, and escaped.

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