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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Sun Feb 12, 2017 9:03 pm


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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Mon Feb 13, 2017 11:21 am

Every "right" to privacy comes with an affirmative (or arrogant, for liars) method of distinction. When one engages in lies and manipulations to gather masses in the name of their claims to distinction, they have declared their distinction and their right to privacy to be a lie and contradicted it by their appeal to the herd.

Privacy is a consequence of threats, but are genuine only when the public face is a rejection of invasion. That is, one does not doubly make their privacy private by denying they have any desire for privacy at all but then hypocritically go to hide in their mansions. This means a genuine privacy comes from what truthful aspects of self cannot be understood by others. A rising above, even if only through an instinct.(It makes sense not to try and communicate intelligent thoughts to those utterly incapable of appreciation. It is why the greatest insult to a caring mind is to declare them "incapable of appreciating" your "genius".)

This is what happened, again, with the Russian "hacker" lie. The political movement ceased to be distinguished by a unique appeal to the world. It became a lie in order to rile the masses in the name of some private "knowledge" they are now "in on" and believe. For those aware, it failed the test.

Awareness, of course, is key to whether something is private at all.

With further regard to what is genuine privacy: affirmation means the affirmation of both the agent's doubts and instincts or else one is hiding themselves from others in bad faith.
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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Thu Feb 16, 2017 2:32 pm


A good explanation of Hollywood Liberalism.
Wealthy victims.
They both feed off their inferiors and, also, identify with them.
Parasitic.

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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Thu Feb 16, 2017 7:41 pm

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Here's what these AltRighters don't get. Trump is beyond politics, and that is what makes him unstable and quixotic. He doesn't give a shit about party politics or the rules that apply to the enactment of his administration policies. He doesn't give a shit about politics at all. He doesn't give a shit about Washington. He doesn't even give a shit who is on his side.

What they need to do, is acknowledge his disregard for reason and petty politics and his favor of impulsive action however motivated by overconfidence it may be. They need to get off their trivial hang ups with the success or failure of his administrative policies or who he should associate with and appoint or how he is "lowering taxes", or any of the other usual asinine tripe that every other American President has put their own spin on.

If they grasped how he truly is, then they would accept him and all his chaos and just hope for the best.

Trump is like a big impetuous brutish warrior who is dumb enough to challenge anyone to a fight to the death, but still innocently noble enough to say its about honor, which is that little peccadillo that gives you the only reason in the world to forgive his naivete and root for him and hope he wins as much as he can before eventually he just gets unlucky and has his head cut off.




One hell of an interesting performance.
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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Mon Mar 06, 2017 2:56 pm

You find with the recession of federal power over domestic issues, that the Left goes further into a frenzy about how 'fascist' the behavior is. This is because the retreat of federal power inevitably empowers the people, who are still largely white. That is, the lifting of the federal boot off the white populace is seen as 'fascist' because it allows white people to start conserving their resources and expanding their influence. The last thing the moneyed interests want is more competition from an enriched socially-aware white class, which would put limits on their power. The threat is against the hedonistic 'elite' which enjoyed decades of only expanding power under the guise of social justice - which was 'justice' scapegoated against the impoverished whites instead of against themselves.
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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Mon Mar 13, 2017 2:05 am

No "economic nationalism" will succeed against a deeply entrenched enemy, based in that very monetary power, without a likewise deeply entrenched social identity. The shallowing of identities to brand names and labels, to superficiality - to uncharitably say "white" is an ideology, etc. is a decent means to ensuring the only relevant depth which remains is an "Americanism" with money at its base.

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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Tue Mar 21, 2017 1:01 am

A comment about unions on a [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]  about economics, I touch on what the white American and European working class is really competing with, China/Chinese Communists on top of the usual suspects, supporting globalism to prevent a white nationalist uprising:


I see guilds as unions and unions as groups used to compete against outside market forces. That is, to prevent some merchant or other shoe maker from somewhere else from out-competing them.

Creating a monopoly over that one specific area by force is a way of coercing other markets (in other states) from production for the home state. That means the home state does not become dependent on the foreign state, which means the foreign state does not gain leverage over the home market. When a foreign market has leverage over the home market, it threatens the home market's sovereignty/independence. Corrupt kings (or cucks) don't mind this. They get a kickback somehow from it and collect wealth. The issue is, if all their productivity is exported, they become a service based economy - which is essentially human resources. Service based economies can be more easily dominated by external ones because they can be more easily done without. This can be countered by threat of force, though. If the service based economy is so powerful that no one fucks with it, then service will be cheaper to hire there than to face the consequences of it declaring war. Over time, the productive economies will outpace the service ones in military might, though - as we see with China.

Today, the American working class is not just competing with propagandist money makers, they are also competing with China.
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It is also the case that the service industry is the entertainment industry. The rush to get a more diverse appearance in new media is part of this. That's why those who are white are not as promoted on YouTube as others.

Control the morality of the populace, control that which is 'shameful' in the populace, and control their movement. This is the brainwashing of women to shame the men into becoming eunichs for the sake of a false promise of safety, resulting in foreign patriarchs invading and taking over the host country.
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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Tue Mar 21, 2017 3:50 am

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A comment about unions on a [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]  about economics, I touch on what the white American and European working class is really competing with, China/Chinese Communists on top of the usual suspects, supporting globalism to prevent a white nationalist uprising:


I see guilds as unions and unions as groups used to compete against outside market forces. That is, to prevent some merchant or other shoe maker from somewhere else from out-competing them.

Creating a monopoly over that one specific area by force is a way of coercing other markets (in other states) from production for the home state. That means the home state does not become dependent on the foreign state, which means the foreign state does not gain leverage over the home market. When a foreign market has leverage over the home market, it threatens the home market's sovereignty/independence. Corrupt kings (or cucks) don't mind this. They get a kickback somehow from it and collect wealth. The issue is, if all their productivity is exported, they become a service based economy - which is essentially human resources. Service based economies can be more easily dominated by external ones because they can be more easily done without. This can be countered by threat of force, though. If the service based economy is so powerful that no one fucks with it, then service will be cheaper to hire there than to face the consequences of it declaring war. Over time, the productive economies will outpace the service ones in military might, though - as we see with China.

Today, the American working class is not just competing with propagandist money makers, they are also competing with China.
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It is also the case that the service industry is the entertainment industry. The rush to get a more diverse appearance in new media is part of this. That's why those who are white are not as promoted on YouTube as others.

Control the morality of the populace, control that which is 'shameful' in the populace, and control their movement. This is the brainwashing of women to shame the men into becoming eunichs for the sake of a false promise of safety, resulting in foreign patriarchs invading and taking over the host country.
This video adds to your points, watch it:

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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Tue Mar 21, 2017 4:10 am

Yes, I had linked that video in my original post and it is where I posted my comment. I could only listen to it for about 20-30 minutes since it's been posted. If he digs deeper, then it's something for me to look forward to later.
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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Tue Mar 21, 2017 5:06 am

Oh, video links don't appear on my browser automatically so couldn't see the link earlier
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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:53 pm

Radical Change of Tactics
What I call positive Nihilism, and Moderns understand as the left, eventually grew out of its more child-like naiveté, and became adolescent.
Daddy Marx was wrong, when he raised them to believe that revolution would spring out of the masses, as a natural by-product of capitalism.
It was a rude awakening. A coming of age that turned them into more cynical, vicious, and duplicitous creatures.
Like all teenagers brooding and hormonal outbreaks of rage became part of their growing up.
They know, now, after so many failures, that the masses are not to be trusted, and one should not place too much hope on their innate spirit of uprising.
They are still as naive about nature as they have ever been. Unable to fully understand the reasons why the slave needs to be reduced to a state of total depravity, dried of any hint of hope before an igniting figure, or event, can spark an explosive passion, born of hopelessness.
All they know is that they must now step-in and bring the population to that necessary condition.
Instead of raising their awareness, as they once thought would enlighten the masses to awaken into a revolution against authority, they now use misinformation, dumbing-down, and the cultivation of idiocy, to accomplish the same goal.
To save man they must reduce him to the level of a manimal; lower than a common animal – not raise him up, as they once hoped would produce their desired spirit of revolution, but bring him down to decrepitude, because they, now, know this is the necessary precondition for their world-view to become applicable.
They must make him so desperate that any version of their romantic, infantile, idealism will suddenly make sense, just as a dying man sacrifices his reason, and turns to superstition, in a last effort to save himself from the inevitable.

Their strategy is to force mankind to a near-death state, before they appear, as saviors, to resurrect him, as an ideal humanist, liberal: a zombie.

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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Sat Mar 25, 2017 6:40 am

Power is the management of the path of least resistance. Mercilessly break down all options but that which you support and then they will have no option but to be led in that direction.

If you wish to profit off the culture of a people, learn their greatest devils and then claim you were a victim of it. Anyone who criticizes you, then can be accused of being complicit with the same devil.

Radical and extreme "humanism" that hides a schizophrenic pole of perverse greed and selfishness. The greed that says no lie is too horrific nor too terrible to tell. That one should choose their own life at any cost, and so there's no cost not worth paying to ensure one has no fear. Therefor, there will never be any trust.

"The energy necessary to refute a lie is an order of magnitude greater than to produce it." - Anonymous

The null hypothesis of a populace/culture always involves and considers its devils, which is why a lie must be based in the greatest devil of a culture - where it is most effectively protected. Then it becomes a shouting match over who has the most credibility in their lies and has the most ability to repeat it often enough.

It's fairly interesting that what I want to express is so fragmented in my own head that I can only use phrases from past posts to try and express what it is that I want to say. Being Good for yourself, is horrible to others - the same way the Christian God says He is terrifying in His Goodness, whenever He appears to men. If ever a group of humans or a race were to be as Gods, they would be terrifying to others ([You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]) Somehow, a race (Anglos) which civilized others has had its very mores flipped upside down. NSDAP Germany was, unfortunately, either politically nihilistic in its rejection of Communism and Capitalism combined (nihilistic opposite) or it was the last non-nihilistic manifestation of a true, healthy, and human tribe. I reference Heisman for the assertion that Anglos are at fault for their own suicide, by their own inability to self-criticize after creating what was probably the first bourgeois society. I reference George Fenwick Jones's work on Germanic Honor for a bourgeois culture's distinct characteristics, [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.].
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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Sat Mar 25, 2017 7:18 am

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"The energy necessary to refute a lie is an order of magnitude greater than to produce it." - Anonymous

That's a nice quote.
It's like trying to stop a punch.
In martial arts one does not resist the enemy, one redirects its energies.
You do not stand in the way of an enraged bovine, you direct him around you with a red sheet, methodically stabbing at its exposed vulnerabilities as it passes beside you.
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You cannot reason with a primitive, instinctive, emotionally driven, mind.
The energy and time required to subdue, tame, a manimal is greater than any possible benefit.

Hunting had to be a communal endeavor to share the energy costs.
Farming trapped the primitive animal, reducing the costs to the hunter - efficiency forcing him to farming techniques.

Nihilism depends on fabricating and distributing lies, to deal with its detachment from reality.
Lying is a matter of survival.
It lies to itself, and then to others to hide itself.
Without a lie Nihilistic Idealism collapses before reality.

A lie is revealed in paradox, and in the contradiction of actions and words.

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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Wed Mar 29, 2017 6:47 am

Is there anybody, contemporarily, who is invoking muh founding fathers in another way than as an attempt to sell the contemporary form of liberalism to the non-urban goyim?

No, no, they say, it's not liberalism, it's classical liberalism.
Like the liberalism of the 1950s or the 1980s?...

Maybe..., classical liberalism has always been that radical idea. The only difference is that in the 1950s social life was not as much infected by it on every level. Something like a family unit was not yet 'liberated', women were not yet 'liberated' and so on.
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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Mon Apr 03, 2017 11:31 am

The left suffers from the consequence of collective degeneration to the desired level of perpetual adolescence.
The worship the carefree, exploration sampling, spirit of that cognitive level towards maturation, and then suffer the massive repercussions.
Then collective amnesia liberates them from the previous retardation, and they remember themselves mature adults, at times deriding themselves, through those still floundering in naive, teenage angst seeking escape in hedonism.

At a later time, if and when degeneracy ascends producing more excess they wish to squander, they will return to their degeneration, as easy as returning to their true essence.

They forget and then re-call, and this they call their open-minded progressiveness, and the joy of being a perpetual fool.

Their connecting memory shifts from being in their mind, as self, to being extricated, allowing forgetfulness to fall into Lethe, and the joy of forgetfulness, re-calling it, anew, from its place of expulsion, to save the self from the repercussions of forgetting.

From genetic memory, abandoning itself to ego, rejecting everything not of its own creation, its own experience, its own agreement, to memetic otherness, from where they re-turn ot their senses, in a cycle of ascent/descent, or right/left - conserving energies, accumulating excess to be expunge din orgiastic squandering.

The titter-tottering of an inebriated mind forced to sober to deal with the consequences of its drunken stupor - the seesawing of Modern man.  
One day/month/year/decade, depending on its ability to recover, cool and rational....the next phase, in the cycle, abandoned to superstition, word-games, and orgies of word-juggling ecstasy.
One moment rational, and the next emotional....where it wishes to stay, if not for a world that cares not for its desires and its pleasures.
One moment masculine, and stringent, the next feminine, child-like, ambiguous, playful.
One moment repelling, discriminating, distinguishing, the next seducing, comforting, including, assimilating energies in preparation for the next phase in its cycles of degeneration.

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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Tue Apr 04, 2017 10:08 am

As the legacy media's death is drawn out and strained, their infiltration into new media circles has a double offensive: get rid of the veteran personalities through libel and insert themselves in their place, through flooding of corporate content onto the platform. It can be called the slow Judaification of YouTube - to a degree significantly more than it was before. Soft, "moderate", internet personalities try to take up the reigns where white men would be, if not for the resulting schizophrenic rage that would result from those same men taking up the defense of their reactions (behavior) toward the natural world.

YouTube personalities are in a unique position to hold off the encroaching old media as it strives to keep itself relevant, before its collapse when they're cornered into a failing narrative, and the political floor falls from under them, with the announcement of real wiretap evidence against the new President. They are in the unfortunate position of having to move between their credibility being totally wrecked from the election result and finding an excuse by saying that the new President is a Russian agent. A lie they must keep refreshing every time they make a new a mistake and people start to remember their failure.

For the liar, there's no greater threat than them becoming unpopular. While someone might think it provides a good "out" when they're unpopular, it's actually the case that there's no use for lies when it doesn't involve other people.

If the old guard of YouTube fails, there will be plenty of opportunists to take their place. Plenty of corporate hires to Webcam as if they are amateurs and grab a young audience through acting, etc. YouTube can become a corporate propaganda tool effectively, especially with the cooperation of Google whom is ran by Silicon Valley and is interested in keeping a conformist culture for the sake of EU regulation which threatened them.

Not sure who will win this one. There's no big platform for hosting video which doesn't have the same policies as YouTube, generally. The pioneers of Internet sites have generally been menchildren who got an easy ride through college and never faced the adversity required to make them mature. As such, they instinctively dislike the demands of those whom would utilize the fruits of a Wild West Internet in order to promote maturity and wisdom. However,  they're faced with the other side which is an insatiable mob for "justice", which turns on the same people at the slightest misstep, chilling the Wild West environment.

The new media reaches more relevant voters than old media does currently. Whether the old media can cash in its chips fast enough to switch over to new media and recover its image, remains to be seen.
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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Wed Apr 05, 2017 7:39 pm


A deeply nihilistic spirit, infused by Christian Orthodoxy, and its relationship to the absence fo an absolute.
Compared to a spirit of rebellious denial, rejection, of past, as a source of enslavement, and pain, manifesting as individualism, in the American sense, infused with Abrahamism through Christianity, and later its commonality with the plight of the eternal victims, the chosen to suffer, finding in each other vengeful commonality of purpose.
American entitlement as the people chosen to bring peace and prosperity to humanity.


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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Fri Apr 07, 2017 6:49 am


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The abandonment of responsibility for 'rights'. This is rooted in the vanity of Hollywood culture, where one finds meaning in materialism. That is, they're without a 'purpose' if they are not entitled to a vain existence. This is the problem with seeking popularity - it is a vanity because one has a shallow appreciation for who they are actually popular with. A cheap seeking of honor, among the lowly. A more discriminating mind seeks appreciation among those that distinguish themselves above others. The seeking of money is, likewise, a seeking of honor among the lowly. The lowly do not 'appreciate' anything particularly interesting about you when you spend a bunch of money, they appreciate your material wealth and what currying favor with you, might do for them.

With the feminine appeals of a sampling platter of 'multi-culturalism', promising a 'new experience', women are intoxicated with the hedonistic promise of the exotic. With cultural relativism taking hold, they become just as base and unrefined by seeking purely base things such as food and shelter. With men and the utter havoc wreaked on their culture, they have no reason to sacrifice anything... for anyone. It becomes a base game of 'Picking Up' girls and refusing anything close to responsibility for the behavior (outcome of there being a child). These are natural consequences, whether one judges it favorably or not.

Vanity and its accompanying materialism becomes the only distinguishing criteria of any human being, instead of one aspect.

Seeking wealth has historically been an honorable pursuit - but it was not without consequence. If one didn't spend enough on security, they were going to be killed and all their wealth taken.

Absorbed free-radical foreign elements whom seek wealth then act like parasites on the host, trick the host population into protecting their wealth -
allowing them to pursue wealth interests without need of having to spend anything on protection. They do all manner of taboos in order to the further the destruction of identity so that the host population doesn't recognize them as a threat.

Even if those free radical elements do pay the taxes that any other does, they do not pay the social cost of being a citizen invested in and identifying with the host culture. The social costs of being a citizen only become a means towards their own greedy pursuits - to use as a cudgel against the host population, instead of adapting it to benefit the host population. Here is were the liberal attitude of the West has become hijacked to be used as a cudgel against the host population, against the refinement of themselves and more noble pursuits.

For these viral parasites, they declare the host culture 'oppressive' whenever it hurts their interests but declare others fall short of the host culture's idea of 'fairness' when it suits their interests, as well. It is not that they perceive the culture as unfair. In fact, they have little concern for fairness. They only utilize mores as a means to their interests.

When they are called out on this, they say that you are doing no different. Which is to say, they so boldly admit they are working against someone's interests, that many become confused and lost in how to react to it. They appear to completely disarm morality as anything but a tool for their interests, without admitting their intent.
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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Wed Apr 12, 2017 8:41 am

If there is any person most genetically (thus symbolically) appropriate for some kind of reunification of the white race, it is appropriately Trump with his German and Anglo blood mix. Whether that reunification be by blood or leadership, it is an interesting coincidence. He is definitely a shameless man, taken at his face, holding two contradictory ideas at the same time. Announcing his pride in IQ and his German blood, but advocating a distinctly Anglo-Protestant hyper-masculinity and vanity.
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The illegalization of selling 'used' material such as CDs or clothing, is a legal commodification of enjoyment.
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