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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Tue Mar 21, 2017 3:50 am

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A comment about unions on a [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]  about economics, I touch on what the white American and European working class is really competing with, China/Chinese Communists on top of the usual suspects, supporting globalism to prevent a white nationalist uprising:


I see guilds as unions and unions as groups used to compete against outside market forces. That is, to prevent some merchant or other shoe maker from somewhere else from out-competing them.

Creating a monopoly over that one specific area by force is a way of coercing other markets (in other states) from production for the home state. That means the home state does not become dependent on the foreign state, which means the foreign state does not gain leverage over the home market. When a foreign market has leverage over the home market, it threatens the home market's sovereignty/independence. Corrupt kings (or cucks) don't mind this. They get a kickback somehow from it and collect wealth. The issue is, if all their productivity is exported, they become a service based economy - which is essentially human resources. Service based economies can be more easily dominated by external ones because they can be more easily done without. This can be countered by threat of force, though. If the service based economy is so powerful that no one fucks with it, then service will be cheaper to hire there than to face the consequences of it declaring war. Over time, the productive economies will outpace the service ones in military might, though - as we see with China.

Today, the American working class is not just competing with propagandist money makers, they are also competing with China.
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It is also the case that the service industry is the entertainment industry. The rush to get a more diverse appearance in new media is part of this. That's why those who are white are not as promoted on YouTube as others.

Control the morality of the populace, control that which is 'shameful' in the populace, and control their movement. This is the brainwashing of women to shame the men into becoming eunichs for the sake of a false promise of safety, resulting in foreign patriarchs invading and taking over the host country.
This video adds to your points, watch it:

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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Tue Mar 21, 2017 4:10 am

Yes, I had linked that video in my original post and it is where I posted my comment. I could only listen to it for about 20-30 minutes since it's been posted. If he digs deeper, then it's something for me to look forward to later.
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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Tue Mar 21, 2017 5:06 am

Oh, video links don't appear on my browser automatically so couldn't see the link earlier
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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:53 pm

Radical Change of Tactics
What I call positive Nihilism, and Moderns understand as the left, eventually grew out of its more child-like naiveté, and became adolescent.
Daddy Marx was wrong, when he raised them to believe that revolution would spring out of the masses, as a natural by-product of capitalism.
It was a rude awakening. A coming of age that turned them into more cynical, vicious, and duplicitous creatures.
Like all teenagers brooding and hormonal outbreaks of rage became part of their growing up.
They know, now, after so many failures, that the masses are not to be trusted, and one should not place too much hope on their innate spirit of uprising.
They are still as naive about nature as they have ever been. Unable to fully understand the reasons why the slave needs to be reduced to a state of total depravity, dried of any hint of hope before an igniting figure, or event, can spark an explosive passion, born of hopelessness.
All they know is that they must now step-in and bring the population to that necessary condition.
Instead of raising their awareness, as they once thought would enlighten the masses to awaken into a revolution against authority, they now use misinformation, dumbing-down, and the cultivation of idiocy, to accomplish the same goal.
To save man they must reduce him to the level of a manimal; lower than a common animal – not raise him up, as they once hoped would produce their desired spirit of revolution, but bring him down to decrepitude, because they, now, know this is the necessary precondition for their world-view to become applicable.
They must make him so desperate that any version of their romantic, infantile, idealism will suddenly make sense, just as a dying man sacrifices his reason, and turns to superstition, in a last effort to save himself from the inevitable.

Their strategy is to force mankind to a near-death state, before they appear, as saviors, to resurrect him, as an ideal humanist, liberal: a zombie.

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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Sat Mar 25, 2017 6:40 am

Power is the management of the path of least resistance. Mercilessly break down all options but that which you support and then they will have no option but to be led in that direction.

If you wish to profit off the culture of a people, learn their greatest devils and then claim you were a victim of it. Anyone who criticizes you, then can be accused of being complicit with the same devil.

Radical and extreme "humanism" that hides a schizophrenic pole of perverse greed and selfishness. The greed that says no lie is too horrific nor too terrible to tell. That one should choose their own life at any cost, and so there's no cost not worth paying to ensure one has no fear. Therefor, there will never be any trust.

"The energy necessary to refute a lie is an order of magnitude greater than to produce it." - Anonymous

The null hypothesis of a populace/culture always involves and considers its devils, which is why a lie must be based in the greatest devil of a culture - where it is most effectively protected. Then it becomes a shouting match over who has the most credibility in their lies and has the most ability to repeat it often enough.

It's fairly interesting that what I want to express is so fragmented in my own head that I can only use phrases from past posts to try and express what it is that I want to say. Being Good for yourself, is horrible to others - the same way the Christian God says He is terrifying in His Goodness, whenever He appears to men. If ever a group of humans or a race were to be as Gods, they would be terrifying to others ([You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]) Somehow, a race (Anglos) which civilized others has had its very mores flipped upside down. NSDAP Germany was, unfortunately, either politically nihilistic in its rejection of Communism and Capitalism combined (nihilistic opposite) or it was the last non-nihilistic manifestation of a true, healthy, and human tribe. I reference Heisman for the assertion that Anglos are at fault for their own suicide, by their own inability to self-criticize after creating what was probably the first bourgeois society. I reference George Fenwick Jones's work on Germanic Honor for a bourgeois culture's distinct characteristics, [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.].
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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Sat Mar 25, 2017 7:18 am

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"The energy necessary to refute a lie is an order of magnitude greater than to produce it." - Anonymous

That's a nice quote.
It's like trying to stop a punch.
In martial arts one does not resist the enemy, one redirects its energies.
You do not stand in the way of an enraged bovine, you direct him around you with a red sheet, methodically stabbing at its exposed vulnerabilities as it passes beside you.
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You cannot reason with a primitive, instinctive, emotionally driven, mind.
The energy and time required to subdue, tame, a manimal is greater than any possible benefit.

Hunting had to be a communal endeavor to share the energy costs.
Farming trapped the primitive animal, reducing the costs to the hunter - efficiency forcing him to farming techniques.

Nihilism depends on fabricating and distributing lies, to deal with its detachment from reality.
Lying is a matter of survival.
It lies to itself, and then to others to hide itself.
Without a lie Nihilistic Idealism collapses before reality.

A lie is revealed in paradox, and in the contradiction of actions and words.

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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Wed Mar 29, 2017 6:47 am

Is there anybody, contemporarily, who is invoking muh founding fathers in another way than as an attempt to sell the contemporary form of liberalism to the non-urban goyim?

No, no, they say, it's not liberalism, it's classical liberalism.
Like the liberalism of the 1950s or the 1980s?...

Maybe..., classical liberalism has always been that radical idea. The only difference is that in the 1950s social life was not as much infected by it on every level. Something like a family unit was not yet 'liberated', women were not yet 'liberated' and so on.
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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Mon Apr 03, 2017 11:31 am

The left suffers from the consequence of collective degeneration to the desired level of perpetual adolescence.
The worship the carefree, exploration sampling, spirit of that cognitive level towards maturation, and then suffer the massive repercussions.
Then collective amnesia liberates them from the previous retardation, and they remember themselves mature adults, at times deriding themselves, through those still floundering in naive, teenage angst seeking escape in hedonism.

At a later time, if and when degeneracy ascends producing more excess they wish to squander, they will return to their degeneration, as easy as returning to their true essence.

They forget and then re-call, and this they call their open-minded progressiveness, and the joy of being a perpetual fool.

Their connecting memory shifts from being in their mind, as self, to being extricated, allowing forgetfulness to fall into Lethe, and the joy of forgetfulness, re-calling it, anew, from its place of expulsion, to save the self from the repercussions of forgetting.

From genetic memory, abandoning itself to ego, rejecting everything not of its own creation, its own experience, its own agreement, to memetic otherness, from where they re-turn ot their senses, in a cycle of ascent/descent, or right/left - conserving energies, accumulating excess to be expunge din orgiastic squandering.

The titter-tottering of an inebriated mind forced to sober to deal with the consequences of its drunken stupor - the seesawing of Modern man.  
One day/month/year/decade, depending on its ability to recover, cool and rational....the next phase, in the cycle, abandoned to superstition, word-games, and orgies of word-juggling ecstasy.
One moment rational, and the next emotional....where it wishes to stay, if not for a world that cares not for its desires and its pleasures.
One moment masculine, and stringent, the next feminine, child-like, ambiguous, playful.
One moment repelling, discriminating, distinguishing, the next seducing, comforting, including, assimilating energies in preparation for the next phase in its cycles of degeneration.

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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Tue Apr 04, 2017 10:08 am

As the legacy media's death is drawn out and strained, their infiltration into new media circles has a double offensive: get rid of the veteran personalities through libel and insert themselves in their place, through flooding of corporate content onto the platform. It can be called the slow Judaification of YouTube - to a degree significantly more than it was before. Soft, "moderate", internet personalities try to take up the reigns where white men would be, if not for the resulting schizophrenic rage that would result from those same men taking up the defense of their reactions (behavior) toward the natural world.

YouTube personalities are in a unique position to hold off the encroaching old media as it strives to keep itself relevant, before its collapse when they're cornered into a failing narrative, and the political floor falls from under them, with the announcement of real wiretap evidence against the new President. They are in the unfortunate position of having to move between their credibility being totally wrecked from the election result and finding an excuse by saying that the new President is a Russian agent. A lie they must keep refreshing every time they make a new a mistake and people start to remember their failure.

For the liar, there's no greater threat than them becoming unpopular. While someone might think it provides a good "out" when they're unpopular, it's actually the case that there's no use for lies when it doesn't involve other people.

If the old guard of YouTube fails, there will be plenty of opportunists to take their place. Plenty of corporate hires to Webcam as if they are amateurs and grab a young audience through acting, etc. YouTube can become a corporate propaganda tool effectively, especially with the cooperation of Google whom is ran by Silicon Valley and is interested in keeping a conformist culture for the sake of EU regulation which threatened them.

Not sure who will win this one. There's no big platform for hosting video which doesn't have the same policies as YouTube, generally. The pioneers of Internet sites have generally been menchildren who got an easy ride through college and never faced the adversity required to make them mature. As such, they instinctively dislike the demands of those whom would utilize the fruits of a Wild West Internet in order to promote maturity and wisdom. However,  they're faced with the other side which is an insatiable mob for "justice", which turns on the same people at the slightest misstep, chilling the Wild West environment.

The new media reaches more relevant voters than old media does currently. Whether the old media can cash in its chips fast enough to switch over to new media and recover its image, remains to be seen.
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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Wed Apr 05, 2017 7:39 pm


A deeply nihilistic spirit, infused by Christian Orthodoxy, and its relationship to the absence fo an absolute.
Compared to a spirit of rebellious denial, rejection, of past, as a source of enslavement, and pain, manifesting as individualism, in the American sense, infused with Abrahamism through Christianity, and later its commonality with the plight of the eternal victims, the chosen to suffer, finding in each other vengeful commonality of purpose.
American entitlement as the people chosen to bring peace and prosperity to humanity.


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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Fri Apr 07, 2017 6:49 am


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The abandonment of responsibility for 'rights'. This is rooted in the vanity of Hollywood culture, where one finds meaning in materialism. That is, they're without a 'purpose' if they are not entitled to a vain existence. This is the problem with seeking popularity - it is a vanity because one has a shallow appreciation for who they are actually popular with. A cheap seeking of honor, among the lowly. A more discriminating mind seeks appreciation among those that distinguish themselves above others. The seeking of money is, likewise, a seeking of honor among the lowly. The lowly do not 'appreciate' anything particularly interesting about you when you spend a bunch of money, they appreciate your material wealth and what currying favor with you, might do for them.

With the feminine appeals of a sampling platter of 'multi-culturalism', promising a 'new experience', women are intoxicated with the hedonistic promise of the exotic. With cultural relativism taking hold, they become just as base and unrefined by seeking purely base things such as food and shelter. With men and the utter havoc wreaked on their culture, they have no reason to sacrifice anything... for anyone. It becomes a base game of 'Picking Up' girls and refusing anything close to responsibility for the behavior (outcome of there being a child). These are natural consequences, whether one judges it favorably or not.

Vanity and its accompanying materialism becomes the only distinguishing criteria of any human being, instead of one aspect.

Seeking wealth has historically been an honorable pursuit - but it was not without consequence. If one didn't spend enough on security, they were going to be killed and all their wealth taken.

Absorbed free-radical foreign elements whom seek wealth then act like parasites on the host, trick the host population into protecting their wealth -
allowing them to pursue wealth interests without need of having to spend anything on protection. They do all manner of taboos in order to the further the destruction of identity so that the host population doesn't recognize them as a threat.

Even if those free radical elements do pay the taxes that any other does, they do not pay the social cost of being a citizen invested in and identifying with the host culture. The social costs of being a citizen only become a means towards their own greedy pursuits - to use as a cudgel against the host population, instead of adapting it to benefit the host population. Here is were the liberal attitude of the West has become hijacked to be used as a cudgel against the host population, against the refinement of themselves and more noble pursuits.

For these viral parasites, they declare the host culture 'oppressive' whenever it hurts their interests but declare others fall short of the host culture's idea of 'fairness' when it suits their interests, as well. It is not that they perceive the culture as unfair. In fact, they have little concern for fairness. They only utilize mores as a means to their interests.

When they are called out on this, they say that you are doing no different. Which is to say, they so boldly admit they are working against someone's interests, that many become confused and lost in how to react to it. They appear to completely disarm morality as anything but a tool for their interests, without admitting their intent.
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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Wed Apr 12, 2017 8:41 am

If there is any person most genetically (thus symbolically) appropriate for some kind of reunification of the white race, it is appropriately Trump with his German and Anglo blood mix. Whether that reunification be by blood or leadership, it is an interesting coincidence. He is definitely a shameless man, taken at his face, holding two contradictory ideas at the same time. Announcing his pride in IQ and his German blood, but advocating a distinctly Anglo-Protestant hyper-masculinity and vanity.
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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Sat Apr 15, 2017 9:25 pm


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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Mon May 15, 2017 1:39 am

The illegalization of selling 'used' material such as CDs or clothing, is a legal commodification of enjoyment.
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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:09 pm

There is no isolated market. The ISPs have to keep charging more for the same service to justify investments and please stock holders. Stock holders need infinite growth to keep making money from nothing but investment. The only way to make money is to simulate lower costs* or to charge more for the same service. All corporations are bound by law to try and increase profits for stock holders. Stock holders of Verizon aren't complaining as they lose their privacy in exchange for dividends.
With a materially sinking economy from the degeneration of demographics, the demand on corporations to tighten the noose around the consumer becomes a matter of national security so that mass boycotts and civil unrest do not occur. Corporations and government become heavily interlaced and interlocked to manage the expectations of the consumer class they created, to keep promoting and protecting the 'multicultural industry'. Demographic replacement from shit hole countries becomes the easiest solution as they have lowered expectations and are completely estranged from the precedent set by earlier governments.
Likewise, restricting the internet will stifle creation of novel ways to handle economies or the spread of things like crypto-currencies which undermine the US Dollar. Companies have a vested interest in maintaining the US Dollar value because it is what currency they primarily have behind them. In the US, there is now this positive feedback loop to demographically replace, or 'elect a new' citizenry because it would prefer killing off people than losing profits.
This demented cycle is protected now by the whores-for-hire: A strange people who dislike or have no connection to the host population. This group is granted protected status and then they perform all the 'dirty jobs' of promoting degeneracy and many forms of wickedness in exchange for monetary reward. Behind the very infinite-growth structure, of course, are those powerful enough to be given an offer to be at the profiteering cycle/table/musical chairs. One falls off, if it ever protests, there's many still at the table to shout them down.

I've been of the opinion with N.N.: damned if you do, damned if you don't. As such, in these cases, you should always be conservative. Otherwise bad actors can take advantage of the flux/change to sneak things by that you would otherwise completely disagree with. Here we see that this happened when Comcast changed their promises during the whole chaos of the circumstance. It's explained in this video how there is no free-market with utility companies when one has a monopoly on the cables and a competitor has a huge barrier to entry. I don't trust (corporations) any more than I trust the (government) which is influenced by (them). In fact, I trust (corporations) less than government in some cases because there's less ability for public influence, even though public opinion actually doesn't influence them at all (study done reflects this). The biggest reason to prefer government intervention in cases of 'damned if you do' and 'damned if you don't', is that the change in government policy can be used for public outrage and as a means to inform others. Corporations generally have more incremental tools at their disposal than does clunky government policy that has to be codified. The same corporations can receive orders from agencies like the NSA and perform incremental changes, meaning, the regulation of corporations indirectly becomes a regulation on the government itself.



*"Simulating lower costs" means promoting a lie that there is a restricted amount of bandwidth, or like the diamond industry, artificial scarcity. This manages/tempers investor expectations. Too much truth can ruin a market built on lies.
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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Wed Feb 14, 2018 5:19 pm



This shit is so insufferably simplistic.

This is how clueless they are, how stunted they have become beneath the horseshit of popular politics. They still think its about defending "free speech", as if such a thing exists. They think that is the root of the problem; the future of 'free speech', the salvation of it, as if its some ancient part of the human spirit that must be heroically fought for. That's why the Spartans died on Thermopylae, for our Free Speech. That's what spurned the Jacobin Revolution, Free Speech. Even though they have no clue how to even define 'freedom" or its value-relationship to public discourse and why that, for some reason, is an intrinsic part of the quality of human existence, or how that builds civilizations or culture. It's like listening to niggers going on about how they are still enslaved by da white man.

They are just another side of the SJW politics they assail, trapped in multicultural indoctrinations. Oblivious to what's going on; unable to grasp the bigger picture. They are not Left or Right, as they themselves know. They are just sheltered, passive, weak-minded neo-liberal moderns who want their capitalistic, consumerist way of life to continue in peace. The Left for them are not so much a threat as they are just a disruption they want to quiet down.  This is why they have no hope of being philosophers much less engaging in philosophy, and why i cant stand to listen to them anymore. They are suited more for the appeal to the disenfranchised adolescent demographic who are already intellectually deficient to listen to this crap and think its "reactionary" and rebellious, when they are done with their Tide Pod snacks.

They know the Left is bad, but they are willing to find ways to compromise and co-exist with it, as long as they have the "right" to say whatever the fuck they want with no consequences and no effects or repercussions in obscure uneventful peace and quiet. Nobody wants conflict. Conflict is what everyone hates. Conflict/nature is what must be eliminated for free speech.
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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Wed Feb 14, 2018 6:35 pm

They can only think of the immediate.
They are prevented from speaking freely, so it must be about 'free speech'....like....'I feel pleasure when fucking so fucking must be about pleasure'.
The linguistic war on European males is too much for them to handle.
The parasitical infection of western civilization with a memetic virus, is too much for them to process.

Why are only European nations forced to accept immigrants, or political ideologies that open identity to multiple interpretations?
Why are not Japanese, or the Jews?
Why are the only people denied identity the Europeans?

Why is language being convoluted and used in ways that become nonsensical?
Why is language used to invert the physical, the body's presence....men can name themselves women and then justify it using linguistic acrobatics:
"I am a female spirit trapped in my male body"
Why is paternalism only 'evil' in European nations?
Why not Islam with a much more authoritarian paternalistic culture?

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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Wed Feb 14, 2018 6:38 pm

I too always thought of this as simplistic and wishful thinking or rather fantisizing, freedom is not a right, right is a deservance of something that having the right to implies; that too is a meanigless and at best vauge as outside of the practical reality of systems of power that guarantee that right at some cost to one that posseses them through violence it is only a romantic spellwish of a word or some type of approximation or hyperbole within philosophical thinking. Freedom is a prior-defined ability to persue prior-defined goals on prior-defined conditions within prior-defined setting at prior-defined costs; with all these factors being only aproximations, as our human-made conditions whirling with natures are ever changing and lacking sufficient stability to be ablet to fully fulfill the requirements of realising such freedoms or rights(as in this context it makes a little difference which word one uses). As philosophical concepts these two terms are interresting, as political terms in the mouths of libertian American adolescents not so much(they are propaganda catchphrases). The problem is that real talk requires a lot of effort and zero incentive(to read philosophy, political science is not enough, althought is is a big uptaking in itself, as one too has to read background history, compare sources, apply the data properly etc.) be it in the terms of prestige or respect etc. Realistically speaking, a youth from USA wont be able to express his accumulated knowledge, women will ridicule him if he does(something he has to worry about given the state of Patriarchy), men(even far-right)will too ridicule him except some odd exceptions that will likely keep anonymous, he wont be able to build a career on it and so forth
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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:13 am

When 'academics' get anything close to qualifying the 'racist' part of 'whiteness', they have always resorted to attacking: science, reason and mathematics. This is all they have about 'cultural whiteness' with no quantifiable reasoning as to what is the origin of "racism" except all those things which whites are good at and non-whites aren't. Instead of taking it as a negation of their egalitarianism, they see it as evidence of 'oppression'. Nothing else about 'white culture' can be attacked, as it already has legislation and a cultural mores of meritocracy. In fact, now, 'meritocracy' is being attacked as "racist".

There is an expectation that they be perceived as not proving the very opposite of their foundational belief, but also that it encounters no resistance; no matter how truthful any of it may be. In their tyrannical proclamations, they become deathly dangerous to white people worldwide, especially because of their perceived self-righteousness, which serves only as a warning sign of their radical extremism and zealotry. 

Left alone, these 'social justice advocates' will, in turn, become the very opposite of they proclaim to be; instead infringing upon white civil rights, as they do today but with a lot more fervor and less tolerance or decency than those they assert don't have enough. When the whole 'social justice' and 'justice' system is being set up only to become less tolerant toward whites, who become more of a minority, being 'constitutional' becomes identitarian in favor of non-whites. If the power structures are controlled by certain ethnic groups, then your advocacy for 'civic nationalism' becomes a racial stance. This is believed by the 'SJWs', openly - this is what needs to be prepared for. 

It's a wonder that 'Conservatives' think they can convert any non-whites to their cause of constitutionalism or 'civic nationalism', when they could not even adequately do that before the decreasing of white demographics. Ironically, this forces the 'Conservatives' to admit either their party was 'too white', accepting SocJus premises all the same - or saying that it was 'too racist', again accepting the same premises. There has been no advancement of 'Conservatives' in media, nor in narrative - they have only given more ground than they ever received, and any gains are quickly eroded in public consciousness. The shrinking 'Conservative' party is evidence that, indeed, it was always a middle-upper American white party. If playing identity politics, demanding 'more Latinos', is the resolution - then you have already abandoned the premises of which you presume you set out to defend. And in this landscape of ever-shrinking white influence, you don't have the luxury of ignoring identity politics and taking on obligations and burdens which no other group has demonstrated they will.
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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Thu May 03, 2018 5:08 pm

Anti-Fascist white nationalists are becoming a literal thing as the division between the tolerant Fascistic right gets replaced with lemming tyranny. The biggest problems causing separation: a forgetting of youthful spirit and its respect for strength, and the ignore-ance of history - taking for granted structures which will fail without maintenance. Freeze out the lone 'nazi larper' voice and you've lost the platform of free speech.

Structures which were supposed to go unsaid, be treated as sacrosanct for the advancement of white advocacy, are now going to be exposed to the Jewish poison of the marketplace with the increasing and encroaching erosion of enemy enlightenment. The upheaving line of free speech will erode into enemy-funded statistical prattling over what is or isn't dangerous; the slow creep of academic tabloidism to present a 'fresh new take'. The right will descend into worthless bitching while it happens and witness their own degradation, while the foreboding beacons of late-Anglo integrity and Occidentalism, the only appellate institution to religious Christian Zionists, becomes maligned as 'racist' with little consequence.
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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Fri May 04, 2018 9:40 am


Well, looks like the Left/Democrats are the real racists party which shapes the country while the Republicans think of themselves as being virtuous by atomising themselves into hapless free individuals.
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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Tue May 08, 2018 6:42 am

(((Subversion))) of parties has been going on since a long time.

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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Tue May 15, 2018 12:55 pm

Lately there has been a lot of criticism of Boomer conservative types and their blindness about things like "Our greatest ally in the middle-east!" and them adopting degenerate views they formerly opposed as in "Democrats are the real racists/homophobes!".

But the White shitlib is not that different, he is even more eager to adopt new degeneracy and whatever is served him by the mass-media, mass-consciousness shapers. He is just the early adopter and his enthusiasm and activism should not be mistaken for "winning". If tomorrow they would tell them that homosexuals are reprehensible they would likewise jump on it as well.
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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Wed May 16, 2018 6:33 pm

Reminder that the overwhelming majority of people, both on the left and right are getting their mental input from the same intellectual/media elite. They just have two (at least) sets of programs each tailored to an emotionally differently wired demographic.

That doesn't mean that conflict within the population has to be pointless but in today's environment as it is handled by both sides, it mostly is. Winding people up with self-defeating political dichotomies and letting them go.

Extreme cases would be the cat lady type who instead of caring for her own children cares about the immigrant children or on the other side the guy who is a true patriot when it comes to defending a certain foreign 'greatest ally' country.

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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Fri May 18, 2018 4:51 am

Establishment shill does not sound as marketable as "intellectual dark web".
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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Fri May 18, 2018 5:15 am

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Anarchists, the ideological extremes of Capitalism/Communism, rely on the polar extremes of tyranny and sycophancy without measured action in-between. Generally the anarchist is a wishful tyrant, resentful of any measured dispositions in which their character would cause them to be excluded, or the result of false and radical premises which a self-esteem prevents their acceptance of the only alternative. It ceases being a matter of what to build afterward at such a point, but only an alliance against what they perceive as oppressors wishing to condemn them to sycophancy.
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[In response to 'Chinese small-government Brit']Yeah, I know, no European originated states had True Free Markets™️, it was never 'really tried'. It's almost like the people wishing for their particular taste of 'small governments' are really just tyrannical anarchists wanting their own personal government which maximizes their personal benefits and minimizes their costs without being answerable to the reality of a growing government to reign in companies with more wealth than second world nations that attempt to maximize profits through wielding their wealth to manipulate the market into their own monopoly. It's also almost like non-whites just hate [both] SJW Communists telling them to cut their dicks off and white-loving white people wanting to segregate, so attach themselves to the path of least resistance to their benefit by associating with whatever buzzwords make them feel less anxious.
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Cultural standards for being a girl is sexist/misogynist. It's transphobic saying being a girl is biological. Personally deciding, arbitrarily whenever you like that you're a girl is anti-trans, the government now has to investigate whether you really believe you're a girl or not.

What's left? Really. Literally the government has to become the dictate of your 'gender identity'; a man born as a man can be declared a girl at any time by the government, apparently.

All that's left is whether or not the government FEELS like you're feeling one way or another, or not. Basically, it's full blown tyranny at this point.

There can't possibly be an explanation for this, though, can there? It's just an incredible state of affairs, making the boomers and Ziocuckservatives incredulous at the 'insanity'. Yeah, resorting to that armchair psychological bullshit of 'mental illness' which the left uses to declare you an dickside out female whenever it wants to. And they tell us that "resorting to the tactics of your enemy makes you no better than them". Next time they're taking a drink of water or breathe in the air, they might want to consider the evidence that Hitler did both those things.
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The Scofield Zionist "Christians" would help an Israeli Jew pull the trigger if that same Jew were pointing a gun at their head and demanded they do so.

"This US Citizen white woman Rachel Corrie was murdered by Israel when they ran over her with a bulldozer purposely.

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The left promotes misogyny by alienating women from their families and support networks, dismantling social and familial bonds with unmeasured immigration. When you're told your own mother's or sister's tears are "the devil", it ceases being about justice - only sheer racial animosity and hatred; the same thing accused against 'white supremacists' who say that 'blacks are only whining'.

I have had some softness in the past for this racial divide - I've attempted to consider peaceful resolutions, restoring some kind of jus gentium between the races, but when you've started targeting my mother and other mothers.. I don't have any 'high ground' left to reciprocate with your putrid kind. You've declared all out war and it's going to be your neck, and the neck of every kike or their gun-toting 'based' Zionist supporters who gets in the way of that.

It's one thing to try and rub my nose in dirt, make me your target for gross exhortations and violence. My Christian sentiment has some capacity and excuse for holding my suffering - but protecting my family and the people I care about, you only have the most vile and lowly supremacist hatred to justify the declarations "You mustn't stand up for another, because you oppress me with evil prejudice when you disallow me to hurt someone with impunity."

I swear to God, you Zionist cuckservative, 'centrist' leftists who let this shit pass with incredulity and willful naivete - you are lowly. You are the 'moderate' Communists and supremacists - like the Islam that beheads and "MODERATES" surround. If I am so evil for protecting my mother from supremacist cunt-head (and wishy-washy enablers) like you, then let me burn in hell. Your milquetoast Christian, pernicious Zionist, egomaniacal libertinist and lukewarm protestations have me no less than willing to put you in with your plaintively tolerated 'allies'. The death of women on your silence, the torture with your EXCUSATIONS and indignities on your DEAFNESS.
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These same 'people' say that whites were racist conspirators and oppression enablers against non-whites and Jews. Jews themselves promote this crazy conspiracy nut shit against whites - but you don't see them being called 'conspiracy theorist'. It's almost as if it takes a particularly (((disingenuous))) mindset to even use such a term.
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These antifa 'altrighters' are "trash" - the very "trash" they accuse others of being. The only measure of "trash" is money, and any kike will use that against you with their MSM complex switching definitions between economic and behavioral. It's not impressive when you're tossing around terms like "wignat" and "incel", all of which are terms purposely vague and emotionally charged, in casual conversation. A lack of real class and more like being full of that Jewish (((class))).

Look at it this way: you're not empowering your people by validating terms which are used to degrade them. If I had a gun that would kill enemies but also allies, and I could instead get a gun that would only kill enemies, I'd choose the latter. Precision with language means also the quality of exclusion, as behavior becomes specifically assigned/targeted. There is only one target for these class cuck terms: whites, males, etc.

You build a foundation for your people morally through the construction of a language which distinguishes them from others. The muddying of definitions and terms is a subversion tactic by parasites to remain indistinguishable.
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What's wrong with "wignat" anyway? What's wrong with calling impoverished white people that had their ancestors carpetbagged and then were the front lines for drugs, a term like that? These are the people who should be given opportunities for redemption, who should have their autonomy reassured and respected, when they're surrounded by non-whites and forced integration. They are the ones who should have academic and career 'diversity' (of viewpoint) initiatives to help uplift their communities that are and were being given to non-whites. The same kike minded bourgeois, that wanted precious diversity, spent decades calling these people 'refuse' and irredeemable; freezing their perspectives from levers of power and society at large.

These lazy classcuck niggers latch onto kike terminology as an argument for their LIES and 'white taqiyya', for their 'only LARPing as retarded and uninformed' policy. I'm almost as tempted to lump them in with "moderate Communists" as those cuckservatives and zionists.
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PostSubject: Re: Liberal/Conservative: Left/Right and American Politics Thu May 31, 2018 5:01 am

Like this wasn't expected? Communists always end up getting rid of their opposition later. You're dealing with Communists, not Democrats.

Here comes the moderate Trotskyite commie (((centrist))) running interference for his Commissar.

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