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PostSubject: One World Utopias & Cults Cults EmptySun Sep 18, 2011 10:36 pm

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"Sri Aurobindo's Radical Social Vision: the Possibility of Telepathic Utopia"

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Connecting with the new consciousness
This 'spiritual age of humanity' then will represent a transformation in the nature of man as momentous as the appearance of the thinking mind on earth. In the same way as for millennia the mind was the centre of our life, so, in the new age opening for humanity, or 'supra-mental' age, the soul will become the centre of all life and activities. A new stage in the evolution of man has already begun; a new consciousness, higher than the mind, a truth-consciousness, as Sri Aurobindo said, in which the dualities, hesitations and limitations of the mind and the greed and blindness of the ego will no longer exist, has already started to appear, and all the upheavals and convulsions that are at present so painfully tearing our earth are the outward signs of this evolutionary crisis. This new consciousness is already at work in the atmosphere of the earth: we can connect with it, we can call it in ourselves, we can use it to transform our entire nature and consequently the world in which we live.




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Known as the "largest such event in modern history and resulted in the largest single loss of American civilian life in a non-natural disaster until the events of September 11, 2001."

Was it a CIA project? You bet :]]

New Age communes like these are some of the easiest experimental psychological testing grounds. It allowed for a closed off space from any outsider contact, or possible interference except for the government planes and their news feeds.


Mold your miiiiiiinds.....to the future. Fu can turn away.....

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Or how about this one....

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Here's the girl who was the face of its starting (from way back in the early 2000s)




From this....her following



The title of her youtube says "Going bald for 'equality'....."

She gets sponsored (go figure).....



Another girl around my age....



I pretty much outright attacked her once because I couldn't stand her effing stupidity.....she messaged me back saying I was misunderstanding her and blah blah....

A lost cause, really...




Recent piece of writing after reading some articles & blogs etc.... i.e. a RANT :]]


The main confusion of new age utopians is this 'cycle' that they go on about, and claim to understand, and yet so soon forget and render insignificant to their plans and theories.

To view one state as 'bad' or unfavorable compared to another is to ignore the great balance. Yes, there are certain things that will become better for some, but WORSE for others. There is no scope for this. In their utopias everyone will be happy as one....except for those who wish to keep their distance....

They are organized religion. They are law & governance.

This is the difference between madmen who are destructive and anti-social (see Kaczynski) and those who are not; one group is full of nicely painted lies, and the other is honest, and does not consist of any real grouping. Only destruction can lead to construction! Destruction is a spark. Its smallness is its strength.

Until people fully admit to and grasp this idea, they will never fully realize themselves. Ultimate 'peace' in its truest form is death. R.I.P.

We are heading toward a death state with a new name and enticing advertising....given to us by headless dreamers, and encouraged by those who have ruled over us from the very beginning.

The trick is always the sheep pen. A nice, warm loft to go to and rest in....while those outside find use for their docile, giving nature.

Do they not see History repeat itself over and over again? History is NOW!

It is an attitude of game rules. If everyone joins in the party, no one gets hurt.........right?

Watch out for the ....wolves....

Ah, but it is of no concern really. These wolves are more like parasites. Not even noticeable, yet eating away. Evolving from their stagnation. Evolution is a moving on....the building from. One is grazing from the ground, the other is making lamb stew.

Peace will prevail. If we just love enough then we will be loved back....
Yes, by fellow believers and their common master.

Well, it is my belief that this is most definitely a necessary turn in the great cycle. I am seeing a multitude of ample food supply, offering their annual sacrificial meat. The number of volunteers boom, while the predators wait in the shadows.

They say...do not fear! Fear is a method of control. They say....do not be spiritual! Spirituality is a method of control.

The real method of control? Not just the ability to sell lies, but to truly make them seem reasonable, and they are....very very reasonable, even true in most cases.

By pointing at the past and saying "Don't get fooled again!", they are getting fooled...
They are sincerely in search of a place for contentment, where all will be ok and they will suffer no more.....so desperate are they, that they must settle back into the slumber they were once in, with whatever they can hold onto. Whatever tells them that they are the true rulers, gods...that they are in-the-know and this is a ticket to safety. Democracy 101....back to the red loop-de-loop.

It is the inability for people to trace tracks. Train tracks................................

They, instead, play the blame game...without seeing that we really ARE everything around us. Every little thing we try to sweep under the rug, and pretend was all an illusion or just a fluke.....the real lie....

Is still happening....is still here....it is me, I, the ego.......that dirty liar is you. And you cannot be honest with yourself.

Yes, we are still hiding. Everything is as it was. "Same as it ever was....same as it ever was"

There is no grand shift beyond the worst of us. The cold, calculating killers and abusers and selfish thieves....

Same game, different name---every. single. time.

There are those who live to learn, and those who live to forget...and then die.
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PostSubject: Re: Cults Cults EmptyMon Sep 19, 2011 2:21 am

With this one, along with the one about eye colors and the one in which you (ironically, I hope) criticise people who talk too much, I decided you have the highest ratio of word per content I have ever come across.
Thus, I give you the Babble Award, for excellence in wasting my time with nonsense.
You are free to make a speech now. Pardon me in advance for not reading it.
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PostSubject: Re: Cults Cults EmptyMon Sep 19, 2011 2:36 am

You need a hot shit in the mouth.
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PostSubject: Re: Cults Cults EmptyMon Sep 19, 2011 2:51 am

Oops, that was my temper talking....talk talk talk (naughty naughty)

What I meant to say was, you only wish you could write half as good as I can, so quit hatin' you hippie bitch.
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PostSubject: Re: Cults Cults EmptyMon Sep 19, 2011 3:36 am

phoneutria wrote:
I decided you have the highest ratio of word per content I have ever come across.
Save for your strange input in my Self/Other thread, I don't think you've posted one sentence of philosophy on this forum. Quite ironic, don't you think?
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PostSubject: Re: Cults Cults EmptyMon Sep 19, 2011 3:42 am

Depends. How rigorous is your definition of irony?
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PostSubject: Re: Cults Cults EmptyTue Sep 20, 2011 2:02 am

If you read the original Utopia written by Thomas Moore it was so miserable that people were off rushing to committ suicide. Behind every disguise of a utopia there is in all actuality a dystopia.

Today's political pretense of aspiring towards social harmony or other utopic idealisms comes under the modern guise of liberal socialism however there is other utopic socio political movements on the opposite spectrum like that of conservative capitalistic libertarianism. Both are political movements although being total opposites are quite utopic in social vision.

There is also the crazy cultic philosophical bunch known as the transhumanists or progressivists who are also utopics. All humanists are aspiring utopics whether they care to admit it or not.

Behind every thought of utopianism there are terms like economical,existential, or social equilibrium.

Those are the terms to look out for.

For me a utopia is impossible and isn't even desireable however there does seem to be thousands of dumb witted idiots who strive for one nonetheless not understanding the consequences or complications of initiating such a existence.

I am a firm believer that there are hidden societies that control the world's wealth and all societies at large. The popular notion is that these secret societies make up the new world order.

At any rate I'm almost certain they are a bunch of radical transhumanists trying to create a international global utopia built in their own imagery. In otherwords they plan on creating a living global hell on earth.

They're trying to initiate it globally as we speak. Welcome to the global dystopia kiddies!

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PostSubject: Re: Cults Cults EmptyTue Sep 20, 2011 3:57 am

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I am a firm believer that there are hidden societies that control the world's wealth and all societies at large. The popular notion is that these secret societies make up the new world order.

At any rate I'm almost certain they are a bunch of radical transhumanists trying to create a international global utopia built in their own imagery. In otherwords they plan on creating a living global hell on earth.


Yeah, you could be right. Something is up...

Remember, though, like Dragon said, the CIA would probably not aid in or initiate the September 11th attacks because they're here to protect the American people from terrorism.

Don't fall head over heels for these conspiracy theories. A lot of it is made up by some really unstable idiots who need something to talk about and also to make themselves look more politically active.

These are the kinds of people who you wouldn't even find in the poll booths when elections start...





Think about it
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PostSubject: Re: Cults Cults EmptyTue Sep 20, 2011 9:48 am

Poison IV wrote:
TheJoker wrote:


I am a firm believer that there are hidden societies that control the world's wealth and all societies at large. The popular notion is that these secret societies make up the new world order.

At any rate I'm almost certain they are a bunch of radical transhumanists trying to create a international global utopia built in their own imagery. In otherwords they plan on creating a living global hell on earth.


Yeah, you could be right. Something is up...

Remember, though, like Dragon said, the CIA would probably not aid in or initiate the September 11th attacks because they're here to protect the American people from terrorism.

Don't fall head over heels for these conspiracy theories. A lot of it is made up by some really unstable idiots who need something to talk about and also to make themselves look more politically active.

These are the kinds of people who you wouldn't even find in the poll booths when elections start...





Think about it

Look up groups like the Bilderburgs and get back to me darling.
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PostSubject: Re: Cults Cults EmptyTue Sep 20, 2011 9:50 am

Somebody has been watching alex jones.
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PostSubject: Re: Cults Cults EmptyTue Sep 20, 2011 9:54 am

phoneutria wrote:
Somebody has been watching alex jones.

And? Oh, let me guess....your one of those people who don't think conspiracies actually exist.

Nice little fantasy world you got going on there in sugar gum drop rainforest with marshmellow clouds.

Can I be apart of your delicious fictional reality too?
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PostSubject: Re: Cults Cults EmptyWed Sep 21, 2011 5:18 am

Save your judgement, kid, I've only been here a week.

The problem with alex jones is that he takes some very realistic possibilities and bundles it up with a lot of absurd nonsense, and that causes everything to be discredited as nonsense.

A little moderation would benefit his cause.
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PostSubject: Re: Cults Cults EmptyWed Sep 21, 2011 6:05 am

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Remember, though, like Dragon said, the CIA would probably not aid in or initiate the September 11th attacks because they're here to protect the American people from terrorism.
I really don't think that is what they're here for. And they have had close working relationships with the leaders of the enemies of all the recent US wars, Bin Ladin, Noreiga, Hussein, the Taliban....

I suppose they could be almost hysterically incompetent, creating the very thing they supposedly are trying to eliminate again and again.
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PostSubject: Re: Cults Cults EmptyWed Sep 21, 2011 7:12 am

The CIA buried my country under 20 years of military dictatorship. They are very, very competent.
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PostSubject: Re: Cults Cults EmptyWed Sep 21, 2011 4:05 pm

phoneutria wrote:
Save your judgement, kid, I've only been here a week.

The problem with alex jones is that he takes some very realistic possibilities and bundles it up with a lot of absurd nonsense, and that causes everything to be discredited as nonsense.

A little moderation would benefit his cause.

I can agree with that assessment. I definitely don't agree with anything of his personal politics either which I also view as nonsense. I however do like his reporting.

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The CIA buried my country under 20 years of military dictatorship. They are very, very competent.

Indeed.. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Cults Cults EmptyWed Sep 21, 2011 7:55 pm

The water is poison, where I'm from the 3rd world, son! You polluted everything and now the 3rd world's gone!
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PostSubject: Re: Cults Cults EmptyWed Sep 21, 2011 8:14 pm

Sleeping, our Mother Nation so distracted, without realizing she was being subtracted in tenebrous transactions...
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PostSubject: Re: Cults Cults EmptyWed Sep 21, 2011 11:55 pm

It's sad.

White people are nothing more than passive cows....

Yet, they carry so much pride in their heritage...

Begging to be dumbed down and raped :]]

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PostSubject: Re: Cults Cults EmptyThu Sep 22, 2011 3:35 am

phoneutria wrote:
The CIA buried my country under 20 years of military dictatorship. They are very, very competent.
Leaving us therefore with the only option of seeing the fruits of their actions as the fruits of their intentions. Which to me means they are not interested in protecting americans - certainly not in the hemisphere sense of that term, but even US citizens - from terrorism.

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PostSubject: Re: Cults Cults EmptyThu Sep 22, 2011 4:20 am

All that they do, that the government does, that we uncounsciously do, is to forward the agenda of the industrial/military complex.
That's all what these revolutions are.
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PostSubject: Re: Cults Cults EmptyThu Sep 22, 2011 4:40 am

phoneutria wrote:
All that they do, that the government does, that we uncounsciously do, is to forward the agenda of the industrial/military complex.
That's all what these revolutions are.
Yes, they are our id.
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PostSubject: Cults Cults EmptySun Mar 31, 2013 12:23 pm

This may be a useful topic, since KTS has been on other forums refered to as a cult. This youtube vid is funny, but also very educational (titled "mind control cults"). Of course it misses the option that "the state", the "system" itself may become the biggest and most solid cult of all.

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PostSubject: Re: Cults Cults EmptySun Mar 31, 2013 12:53 pm

generally, cults (like many polemic paradigms in general) rely on the juxtaposition of in- and out-group "truths", exposing a disparity in the essences of said groups, and from there claim that the cult's "truth" is some incommunicable secret to the out-group that yields utmost ontological weight - the cult has access to a higher, unseen reality that validates its existence. one sees such psychological underpinnings not only exclusive to cults, but as a general feature of the priestly type of man.
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PostSubject: Re: Cults Cults EmptySun Mar 31, 2013 1:07 pm

And aren't the politicians the best showmen? The most influential priest-class?

To me a cult has "experts" or a "guru", whose knowledge cannot be questioned. Is not allowed to be questioned.

Politicians are given a "stage" with all the hype of media/journalists around them that elevate their statements to something higher than what an average man (who doesn't have this stage/attention) could ever say. Even if their statements are lies and idiotic deceptions and the simple man says the truth, but doesn't get this audience/stage.

Do you think this forum here is a cult?

On the one hand I understand the Adyton since free speech is restricted on the net. On the other hand, apaosha refered to it once in "Man as system" and Satyr has too in a kind of "cultish" way. (To win an argument.)

So since free speech is restricted, cults may be necessary. A necessary evil or whatever? Whereby we are at the distinction of quality vs. quantity again.
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PostSubject: Re: Cults Cults EmptySun Mar 31, 2013 2:18 pm

Just tried to open a vid by Jonathan Bowden (my coach on what being right-wing means) on youtube titled "The Left" only to get the saying: that I do not get access in my country. These restrictions of course lead to secrecy and formations of groups/"cults".
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PostSubject: Re: Cults Cults EmptyTue Apr 02, 2013 12:22 am

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To me a cult has "experts" or a "guru", whose knowledge cannot be questioned. Is not allowed to be questioned.
If so, then this forum is the anti-cult.

If you seek cults, go to those forums, where the cultural myths are never in doubt, and certain thinkers are never challenged.
They may call themselves "free-thinkers" to cover up their real nature.

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PostSubject: Re: Cults Cults EmptyTue Apr 02, 2013 6:52 pm

I also think that race is the most pressing political issue. Problems due to multiculturalism and its promotion through the medias. I just do not feel so passionate to tackle this on a english language forum. The pre-socratics and Heidegger were "unpolitical" in the sense that their politics lay a bit deeper. I am no scientist, but all science up to this point proves human races. Race differences. I hope these studies become more mainstream. (Why I don't like backrooms. Usually those entering these backrooms know about the issues at hand anyway, thus no development/spreading of these memes.)

And for Philosophy, english forums are too low quality for me as a native German speaker (no matter if I am pure blooded German or not.) I am talking about a shared language mostly. Shared culture. Shared history.
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PostSubject: Re: Cults Cults EmptyTue Apr 02, 2013 8:24 pm

No, for me race is a secondary matter.
Race decides potential...and should be taken into account only as such.

What is more pressing is the meme of Nobility.
Nobility of spirit.
The Aryan, Indo-European traditions.

Race does determine the frequency of minds emerging within a population who can be given the means to attain such nobility, but they should not be restricted to any one population.

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PostSubject: Re: Cults Cults EmptyTue Apr 02, 2013 9:00 pm

For me Nations play a significant role. This is also why I oppose multiculturalism, not only because of Race mixing. What we are seeing is that all that survives of a culture is their cuisine. A Nation is a shared language to me mainly. Culture is literature, art and history. There are cultural barriers that are wiped away today, making all people one homogeneous mass.
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PostSubject: Re: Cults Cults EmptyWed Apr 03, 2013 11:28 am

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No, for me race is a secondary matter.

I too see this as the lesser part of the Right. This is where the "Divide and Conquer" works the best. So that a strong Right can never be built, because race is made into a primary matter, that splits the Right and makes their noble spirit unaccessible to people that would otherwise be interested to learn about and apply these memes, but see themselves as unfit by their racial markers: black, yellow, red, mixed race, ...

I lurked on Stormfront. The funniest thing was their discussion about the movie "The Lion King". Most like it over there, even if it plays in Africa.
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